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    GOP entering 'Dark Ages' as Hillary tops all GOP candidates in Texas

    The odds of Hillary Clinton running for president again seems to be a sure thing or a long shot, either way a path to the white house is much clearer now than it has ever been - a recent survey has Clinton beating all the theoretical republican opponents, including Cristie, Rubio, Perry.

    Seems the GOP is just bleeding out now, how long before it dies?

    http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/02/22/the-p...rn-texas-blue/

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    Re: GOP entering 'Dark Ages' as Hillary tops all GOP candidates in Texas

    It's possible. Anne Richards comes to mind.

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    Re: GOP entering 'Dark Ages' as Hillary tops all GOP candidates in Texas

    Republicans nationally are sucking wind

    Just read a poll that in NJ, Chris Christie has like a 74% approval rating - in doing the job of governor - which he's very good at - and New Jersey residents - with more Dems than Repubs - love him

    yet head to head vs. Hillary for Pres. he loses by a good margin

    Republicans seem to be considered OK to run states (governorships) and local but not national

    But the election is far away - and much can happen - to our economy plus

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    Re: GOP entering 'Dark Ages' as Hillary tops all GOP candidates in Texas

    Chance already touched it. An hour is a lifetime in politics. There are at a minimum of 8500 hours until the next national and there will be a midterm that will probably draw out more conservatives because they feel they are losing... so they will turnout just like in 2010. Consider that the changing point in the conversation... that is when talk shows will be questioning what Dems should do in doomsday scenarios ..... yet in reality they will still be quite strong.

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    Re: GOP entering 'Dark Ages' as Hillary tops all GOP candidates in Texas

    Yes. Old man Bush had an approval rate of 90% or so yet lost his bid for re-election.

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    Chance1 is right. In politics, 2016 is an eternity away. While I think Hillary will likely be the next President, republicans would need to make a complete change to alter that and I don't see how they do that with their current lineup of hopefuls and the civil war going on inside the party. They will be more successful on the state level, particularly in the red states, but even at that, there are a lot of cracks appearing in some of their far right stronghold states. They may not have a real shot at the oval office again for 8-12 years.

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    Re: GOP entering 'Dark Ages' as Hillary tops all GOP candidates in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by evanrick View Post
    The odds of Hillary Clinton running for president again seems to be a sure thing or a long shot, either way a path to the white house is much clearer now than it has ever been - a recent survey has Clinton beating all the theoretical republican opponents, including Cristie, Rubio, Perry.
    I don't think she's going to run. She's older now, and has even developed medical problems as a result of her unrelenting service.

    My read is that she doesn't want another eight years of incredibly hard work and hassle. I think that's why she stepped down as SoS. She was first lady, then senator, then presidential candidate, then SoS. I think she deserves and wants a break.

    Yeah, she'd win. But I just don't think she's going to run.


    Quote Originally Posted by evanrick View Post
    Seems the GOP is just bleeding out now, how long before it dies?
    In a parliamentary system, the GOP would have disappeared about 20 years ago. I have relatives in Europe who keep asking me to explain to them how it survives - they just don't get it.
    Last edited by T-Rexx; February 23rd, 2013 at 12:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evanrick View Post
    Seems the GOP* is just bleeding out now, how long before it dies?
    Dark Ages: noun
    1. the period in European history from about a.d. 476 to about 1000.
    2. the whole of the Middle Ages, from about a.d. 476 to the Renaissance.
    3. ( often lowercase ) a period or stage marked by repressiveness, a lack of enlightenment or advanced knowledge, etc.

    500 years? We can only hope.

    *repressiveness, a lack of enlightenment or advanced knowledge, etc. - Yup!

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    Re: GOP entering 'Dark Ages' as Hillary tops all GOP candidates in Texas

    In 2008, Barack Obama's support in Texas was just 43.63 percent of the vote to the 55.39% for the winner of the state John McCain.

    Obama received 48 percent support from Texas females.

    In such a scenario, Hillary Clinton could—and would—win over the female vote. But she has to win them with at least 55 percent, and for the men to vote for her at least in the mid-40s.

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    It's four fuckin' years guys. Deal with today's problems.
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    Like you're "dealing"? It is indeed four FUCKING years, Jack. You are exactly right ^_^
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    Re: GOP entering 'Dark Ages' as Hillary tops all GOP candidates in Texas

    I think the only thing strongly against Hillary is her ailing health. I would vote her on her deathbed though. She is the closest thing we will get to a lesbian in the White House. She did go to Wellesley after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxpowr9 View Post
    I think the only thing strongly against Hillary is her ailing health. I would vote her on her deathbed though. She is the closest thing we will get to a lesbian in the White House. She did go to Wellesley after all.
    I don't think she has had any age related problems recently.

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    Re: GOP entering 'Dark Ages' as Hillary tops all GOP candidates in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by JockBoy87 View Post
    I don't think she has had any age related problems recently.
    Age-related problems? No. That blood clot she had in her head is a very worrisome sign. Blood clots are one of those things that stop for nobody and it could kill you at nearly any age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxpowr9 View Post
    Age-related problems? No. That blood clot she had in her head is a very worrisome sign. Blood clots are one of those things that stop for nobody and it could kill you at nearly any age.
    It was due to a head injury, and it was not a stroke.

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    Re: GOP entering 'Dark Ages' as Hillary tops all GOP candidates in Texas

    she's apparently healthy enough to do what all of them do

    TALK FOR MONEY

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2710863.html

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    Well, obviously she's an evil capitalist whore... oh wait, but capitalism is good, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    Well, obviously she's an evil capitalist whore... oh wait, but capitalism is good, no?
    She used be a registered Republican. Besides she is the closest thing we will get to a lesbian in the Oval Office [or orifice; giggity]. She did go to Wellesley after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    she's apparently healthy enough to do what all of them do

    TALK FOR MONEY

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2710863.html
    I'm already at the second paragraph in from your linked source and this is what pops out to me:

    However, Politico reports that she will likely speak for no fee on behalf of causes she supports, and will donate some of her earnings to charity.


    I have to admit that's more than this Texan can say about ANY of the Texas Republicans in office here in Texas.

    Hell!

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    Re: GOP entering 'Dark Ages' as Hillary tops all GOP candidates in Texas

    Hmmm

    she wasn't too quick to TALK

    about Benghazi

    was she ?

    hehehehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    Hmmm

    she wasn't too quick to TALK

    about Benghazi

    was she ?

    hehehehehe


    Once again I refer you to the paragraph in your link that jumped out at me:

    However, Politico reports that she will likely speak for no fee on behalf of causes she supports, and will donate some of her earnings to charity.
    ^ My emphasis on the underlined part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JockBoy87 View Post
    I don't think she has had any age related problems recently.
    She had double vision problems ... no one in the media asked why. Could be an age related issue or her 'fall' or the reason for her fall.

    As SOS her resume isn't strong except for the airplane miles.
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    She had double vision problems ... no one in the media asked why. Could be an age related issue or her 'fall' or the reason for her fall.
    Montezuma's Revenge

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    ^^^

    Again, no one in the media had the balls to ask her.

    The 'journalists' of today are sleeping .... shhhhh don't wake them up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    ^^^

    Again, no one in the media had the balls to ask her.

    The 'journalists' of today are sleeping .... shhhhh don't wake them up.
    The media is quite clear.

    Gastroenteritis presents many symptoms, among them dehydration and delirium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JockBoy87 View Post
    The media is quite clear.

    Gastroenteritis presents many symptoms, among them dehydration and delirium
    .
    Much like the problem with our Media.

    Like the rest of Washington, they know who's paying the bills.
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    Delirium sounds about right

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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    Delirium sounds about right
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    Chris Christie isn't running for President. 2016 might be an eternity away, but he's burned too many bridges in the GOP to even being nominated. While he may seem like a decent enough governor in New Jersey, if given the choice I would still choose a democrat over him.

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    My opinion of Hillary is if she runs, she'll probably lose the primary again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    Chris Christie isn't running for President. 2016 might be an eternity away, but he's burned too many bridges in the GOP to even being nominated. While he may seem like a decent enough governor in New Jersey, if given the choice I would still choose a democrat over him.
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    America, not just the GOP is entering a Dark Age, and probably the world. As we destroy the freedoms and culture which created the modern world, we cannot continue to expect continued progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    America, not just the GOP is entering a Dark Age, and probably the world. As we destroy the freedoms and culture which created the modern world, we cannot continue to expect continued progress.
    Excellent prognosis, terrible diagnosis.

    It seems that China will overshadow America, but is that because they have abundant freedom and American culture? I don't think so.

    The main reasons America will be overshadowed this century are declines in education, infrastructure investment, and a decline in traditional sources of energy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    America, not just the GOP is entering a Dark Age, and probably the world. As we destroy the freedoms and culture which created the modern world, we cannot continue to expect continued progress.
    A banner of "freedoms" automatically translates into economic prowess and military might? And Obama is destroying that banner? Ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    America, not just the GOP is entering a Dark Age, and probably the world. As we destroy the freedoms and culture which created the modern world, we cannot continue to expect continued progress.
    *Snorts derisively*

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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    Hmmm

    she wasn't too quick to TALK

    about Benghazi

    was she ?

    hehehehehe
    BeNghAZIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    derangement syndrome

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxpowr9 View Post
    She is the closest thing we will get to a lesbian in the White House. She did go to Wellesley after all.
    Condi Rice has her beat in the lez department.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    America, not just the GOP is entering a Dark Age, and probably the world. As we destroy the freedoms and culture which created the modern world, we cannot continue to expect continued progress.
    Right wingers sure love to throw around the word "freedom"... freedoms they spent eight years destroying under the prior administration. They now say it is off limits to talk about whatever happened under 2001-2009. It's Obama fault for everything now. He's to blame for everything... right? 2001-2009 never happened!

    Now this country could pull back ahead if it were to make serious investments in education and research & development. But that would involve more government spending, and republicans have a serious aversion to government spending. Never mind that government spending drives economic growth and innovation, and the private sector does not. ARPANet anyone?

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    I think it may be a while before a Republican holds the White House again. The country is just moving in a new direction and as a whole, the country has lost faith in hardcore Capitalism and the Pro Business mantra of the Republican party and is more interested in ensuring Main Street is taken care of, social programs are there for who need it, and minding it's own business around the world.

    I don't see us turning back to what this country used to be any time soon. Either the Republican party accepts it, or the longer they do, the longer they will continue losing elections nationally.

    I think the new norm is a Democrat in the White House, a Democratic-controlled left-leaning Senate, and a GOP-controlled House (thanks to gerrymandering efforts as a result of the 2010 elections when Democrats made the worst mistake possible by sitting home). That has got to be the biggest blunder of the decade and the Democrat voters have themselves to blame.
    Telling it like it is.

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    Um, the GOP may still lose grip of the House in 2014 though. They still lost seats in the House in 2012... the House may only be controlled slightly by the GOP in 2014, if at all. I agree with the other assessments though.

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    Americans have a "freedom" fetish which I've never gotten. Just because you can shoot each other if you disagree about who parked the car where, doesn't make you freer. Most countries in the civilized world enjoy equal or bigger amounts of "freedom"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    Americans have a "freedom" fetish which I've never gotten. Just because you can shoot each other if you disagree about who parked the car where, doesn't make you freer. Most countries in the civilized world enjoy equal or bigger amounts of "freedom"...
    I prefer ramming them like Towanda @ 1:15.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    Americans have a "freedom" fetish which I've never gotten. Just because you can shoot each other if you disagree about who parked the car where, doesn't make you freer. Most countries in the civilized world enjoy equal or bigger amounts of "freedom"...
    so dumb

    AMERICANS relish being able to pull out their gun when debating whose parking spot it really is

    they do ?

    it's like after so many absurd statements one more doesn't seem so fucked

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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    so dumb

    AMERICANS relish being able to pull out their gun when debating whose parking spot it really is

    they do ?

    it's like after so many absurd statements one more doesn't seem so fucked
    You don't need guns.

    All you really needs is a good quality baseball bat.

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    Re: GOP entering 'Dark Ages' as Hillary tops all GOP candidates in Texas

    The problem she would have in 2016 is the same problem she had in 2008...

    It depends alot on how many angry old white people die before then. Racism, Sexism and Homophobia were an integral part of the good old days (the days Repuks want to return to)

    Karl Rove was a master at exploiting people's "inner racist". It isn't the overt racists that he focused on...it is the ones that don't understand they are racist that can easily be swayed. He used code words that would appeal to people who did not understand how racist they actually are. He did it to McCain in 2000 using his non white child in places where he knew it would matter.. He is a creepy evil little man who lowered the bar so much he paved the way for even creepier and lower entities to take his place....giving birth to the birthers and other pond scum.

    ...and people's ideas of what a woman "should" act like will be used against Hillary Clinton no matter what approval rating she enjoys at the moment. Again...Rove or whoever takes his place will try to figure out how to appeal to the sexists who have gender/role bias and don't realize it. They are the real swing vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JockBoy87 View Post
    Excellent prognosis, terrible diagnosis.

    It seems that China will overshadow America, but is that because they have abundant freedom and American culture? I don't think so.

    The main reasons America will be overshadowed this century are declines in education, infrastructure investment, and a decline in traditional sources of energy.
    It remains to be seen. Some cultures and economies can copy others but have little ability to innovate. Innovation seems to be a function of economic freedom and a culture of individualism. Newly industrialized economies mostly copy the goods of others but with the advantage of cheaper labor. So long as China has an authoritarian government, I doubt if it will be able to innovate much, while other countries will be able copy cheaper. If America declines, it will because of our clearly declining economic freedom.
    Last edited by Benvolio; February 25th, 2013 at 08:05 AM.

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    Clearly clearly clearly declining..........
    That we are capable only of being what we are, remains our unforgivable sin.
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    Re: GOP entering 'Dark Ages' as Hillary tops all GOP candidates in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by JockBoy87 View Post
    You don't need guns.

    All you really needs is a good quality baseball bat.
    I think some quick wit gets it done

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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post

    I think some quick wit gets it done
    Yeah, all those domestic murders show some pretty quick wit.
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    Re: GOP entering 'Dark Ages' as Hillary tops all GOP candidates in Texas

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    Yeah, all those domestic murders show some pretty quick wit.
    Parking space killers

    A new national tragedy

    Reality show material

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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post

    Parking space killers

    A new national tragedy

    Reality show material
    My post detailing your inability to actually see the point behind words and only latching onto their most superficial meaning as some lame-ass way to attack people, got deleted. I wish you could contribute here in other ways, but alas...
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