Javier Fernandez (Spanish figure skater)

[sokker]

What do you think? Isn't he cute?

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(Disclaimer: none of the pics are mine)

[virulentpeach]

Spanish men are always very handsome. Some of them have Mediterranean pigmentation but almost Irish-like features and I think it's a good combination.

He reminds me a bit of Levi Johnston, Bristol Palin's baby daddy.

[sokker]

Spanish men are always very handsome. Some of them have Mediterranean pigmentation but almost Irish-like features and I think it's a good combination.

He reminds me a bit of Levi Johnston, Bristol Palin's baby daddy.

I know, right? Spanish men are so hot I think they're extremely underrated. Brazilian men and Italian men are known for their looks, but not so much Spanish men. I personally find Spanish men the most good looking of all nationalities. I agree that their complexion is very Mediterranean at the same time as they have almost Irish-like features. It's a very beautiful combination. And yeah, he does kinda remind me a bit of Levi Johnston too

[dougmc92]

remembering seeing him deservedly beating World Champ Patrick Chan at Grand Prix event this year- when he's on- he's great- hoping he does big things at Worlds!

[SilverWolf]

I think he's very cute.

[JarodA]

The last two pics of the OP I like a lot. I like the old-school costuming .

[ravenstar]

We don't hear much about figure skating in Australia, I often think that's a shame. He's really beautiful.

[dougmc92]

The waving he's doing from the Kiss and Cry seems a little gay....a gay figure skater- I know- shockwaves- more likely to fing a gay guy in the NFL

[sokker]

The waving he's doing from the Kiss and Cry seems a little gay....a gay figure skater- I know- shockwaves- more likely to fing a gay guy in the NFL

Actually he's straight.. he's dating Canadian figure skater Cortney Mansour (he's training in Toronto).

That said.. I know this sounds like tinhatting, but there's loads of reasons to stay in the closet, even in figure skating. He's basically skating for Skate Canada right now, and they're a very homophobic organization. And he could lose a lot of sponsors if he came out.

I know he said he's straight and everything, but fuck it.. you know what, I agree, he pings. I was actually shocked when I found out he's straight. I know I shouldn't stereotype or whatever, but I thought he was gay.

Meh.. at the end of the day he's European, Spanish to be exact.. many Europeans lean both ways. I wouldn't be surprised if he has hooked up with some guys before. Again, this is me just tinhatting and speculating though. The official word is he's straight, unfortunately

[dougmc92]

Miss Evan Lysachek dated a girl, too- and we all know about beards here at JUB.....If a figure skater can't come out- a football player NEVER will!!!!! I think more people would be suprsed to hear a figure skater is str8 than a football player's gay- people/sponsors need to grow up- it's 2013- not 1983- I'm so sick of the too scared to come out bull shit- I have ZERO respect for anyone who lets someone else force them to psychologically scar themsleves for years all to make a little money!

[Scealle]

Yes he's hot!!!! And Damnn good! Holy shit his quads are a lot more stable than Brian Joubert's !!!! Been watching the senior skating for years and he's the one that slipped under my radar surprisngly. Anyways, I also get a little vibe from him being gay as well but alas as you mentioned I heard he's str8.

That said.. I know this sounds like tinhatting, but there's loads of reasons to stay in the closet, even in figure skating. He's basically skating for Skate Canada right now, and they're a very homophobic organization. And he could lose a lot of sponsors if he came out.

Yes Skate Canada is one of the most homophobic organizations out there. (US is up there but that's a different story) Partly, Patrick Chan's parents are to blame for this. I read somewhere they keep pushing on the masculine campaign they have there. A lot of gay canadian skater has stopped due to this silly shitz I feel bad for some of them as some of they haven't achieved or went into olympics yet and some are still quite young. (25 ish) Yeah and sponsorships in this sport are very hard to get by. I personally know a few skaters that have been competing for years (juniors) and still haven't got sponsors

[Corny]

Yes indeed. But what about that hair? Somehow figure skaters almost always have this awful look of way too much hair gel and and backwards greased hair.

[sokker]

Miss Evan Lysachek dated a girl, too- and we all know about beards here at JUB.....If a figure skater can't come out- a football player NEVER will!!!!! I think more people would be suprsed to hear a figure skater is str8 than a football player's gay- people/sponsors need to grow up- it's 2013- not 1983- I'm so sick of the too scared to come out bull shit- I have ZERO respect for anyone who lets someone else force them to psychologically scar themsleves for years all to make a little money!

Hmm.. well, I've seen a pic of Javi kissing his girlfriend. He also said hi to her during a kiss & cry. I honestly don't know.. maybe he really is straight. I agree with you, he does ping. I thought he was gay the first time I saw him, but it's mostly based on stereotypes. He might just be a slightly effeminate straight guy. Those exist too. Trust me, I want him to be gay. But I'm not sure if he is.

I think it's unfair to be mad at him for not coming out though. First of all, we don't even know if he's gay. Second, if he's closeted and bearding, he's doing it for a reason. It's easy for us to judge. Don't get me wrong.. I don't condone bearding, I think it's disgusting. But in some cases they really don't have a choice. He's training in Canada, and Skate Canada is an organization run by fundies. They're very homophobic. I don't think it's a coincidence that most of the gay skaters quit during a two year span. Sometimes skaters and other athletes don't have a choice.. they're forced to stay in the closet and beard up because of pressure and for the potential loss of sponsor money if they do come out. When it comes to Javi there's also a third possibility, he might be bi. I've seen how affectionate he is towards other male skaters. Then again.. it might just be because he's Spanish. They're all touchy feely down there.

Meh.. I honestly don't know. Maybe he is straight. I don't think it really matters though, at the end of the day he's still the same guy. He's still cute and very talented!

[virulentpeach]

He's really adorable. I hope he's not straight.

[dougmc92]

my post was a general diatribe about closet cases- not neccessarily him- like you, I don't know, but if he is- screw him and all others hiding our while others fight the battle

[bike10]

Love and adore latin jocks.

[piticon]

this last picture, wow!!!

[gsdx]

He does a great Chaplin. I've gotten away from watching skating. I should get closer again.

[dougmc92]

Chaplin has been done to death by 10 different skaters

[sokker]

Chaplin has been done to death by 10 different skaters

So what? He does Chaplin so well! Please don't judge if you haven't seen his program. There's a reason he won the euro gold, just saying. He totally deserved it.

[dougmc92]

I have seen it- it's good- it's still been done to death though.

[sokker]

I have seen it- it's good- it's still been done to death though.

Yeah, you're right. It has been done a lot in the past, but meh.. I don't care. I kinda forget that when I watch him skate anyway. And it was his big break through, he won the euro gold, so his Chaplin program will always be special to me

[dougmc92]

I've seen it twice this season- once was awesome- once was mediocre.

[sokker]

I've seen it twice this season- once was awesome- once was mediocre.

Yep. He's very inconsistent. That's his main problem. He can be on fire, but most of the time he does stupid mistakes. I'm sick and tired of him always getting 4th place. I know he has so much talent. But somehow he keeps messing up.. sigh Hopefully the euro gold will give him some confidence though, maybe it was the push he needed. I'm not expecting gold at the worlds.. I don't think he's good enough, the japanese are too good. But a bronze might be within range, if he does as well as he did at the euros. It will be interesting for sure.

[dougmc92]

when and where are the World Championships???

[Scealle]

Haha well so many music are overused. Moonlight sonata too. World Championships will be held in London, Ontario, Canada.
At first I didn't read properly and only read london and get all excited lol. It's held around 13-17. men's event at 14 and 15. one day rest pretty tough if you ask me.

[sokker]

Haha well so many music are overused. Moonlight sonata too. World Championships will be held in London, Ontario, Canada.
At first I didn't read properly and only read london and get all excited lol. It's held around 13-17. men's event at 14 and 15. one day rest pretty tough if you ask me.

I think you're mistaken. According to wikipedia men's short program is the 13th and their free skate is the 15th.

[Scealle]

Woops I must have misread that. Thanks for the info

[sokker]

Javi is in 7th place after the short program. Not ideal at all. It will be nearly impossible to medal now. Not that I'm surprised. I knew it was a bad sign when he was struggling with his jumps at practice. He's also way too inconsistent in general. He can be really good, he's got great potential, and he showed it at the european championships. But he's just not performing at that level often enough, unfortunately. It's such a shame, because he's a good skater when he wants to be, I usually love his programs, and this season's program is incredible, especially the Chaplin routine. I just wish he was more consistent that's all.

I've lowered my expectations now. Medal seems unlikely, but he can still probably reach a top 5 if he does well on his Free Skate, which is what I hope. Top 5 is also his own goal, so I hope he can accomplish that. Hopefully he'll be more consistent next year, maybe he'll do better at the worlds then.

On the bright side.. he's still pretty, so at least he's got that going for him, despite his highly variable results in figure skating..





(Disclaimer: none of the pics are mine)

[JarodA]

Nice photos .

[sokker]

OMG he did it! I think I'm gonna cry. He fucking went ahead and won bronze! I'm sooo proud of him! Can you imagine, he was in 7th place after the short program. I thought a medal was impossible, but he did it! He skated an excellent free skate and that moved him up 4 places, to third. I'm just.. I have no words right now. Can you even imagine where he would have placed if he did a better short program? Gold for sure! Third place is amazing though, I'm so happy!



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[JarodA]

So handsome in that photo .

[dougmc92]

dud- calm down- it's a bronze, not Olympic gold.... with the new system- people pull up from 6/7th all the time- mainly because lack of consistency- meaning only 2 skaters per competition can skate 2 good routines- all the others screw up 1....glad he did well, though

[Scealle]

A lot of skaters fell or did mistakes in their program this year. Actually last year grand prix as well. I think since most people are attempting all the quads now. It's incredibly strainful to their body. Florent slipped during the final back camel in SP. Still amazed with Javier Patrick win again as expected

[dougmc92]

Heard there's a lot of people pissed Chan won again- other guy- from Kaz- I've never heard of was better- but unknowns NEVER unseat past champs- judges carrying CHAN!

[dougmc92]

US did lousy- 7th and 12/14th??? Probably will only get 1 skater in next year's Olympics because of poor showing.... not sure how the work it now- seem to change rules every week.

[Scealle]

Did you mean Dennis Ten who's under Frank Caroll currently? He's pretty good One of the few guys who can do bielmman spins Though I think he stopped. He did competed in Olympics 2010 just didn't place well enough.
Chan is always so over scored. I know he has good choreography and dance steps but still. I feel like US skaters tend to be judged very strictly during world/international competitions. Didn't expect Ross Miner to miss out the landing for the LP, he has always been stable in both SP & LP in past competitions. Never saw Max Aaron skated prior to this comp. Fast spins! Seems like that didn't impress the judges.

[dougmc92]

Because of top ten finish- US will get 2 skaters at Olympics.... If I saw Denis Ten- I might remember him, but the name doesn't ring a bell. The scoring system is so out of whack- the only good thing about it is how you can pull up, but the way they overscore favorites, step series and twizzles over quads, etc is rdiculous!

[Scealle]

There are not much skaters from the middle east and usually they don't rank on the podium so they can be forgettable unless you watch the whole competition. I always remember him as the guy who can do biellman when I first saw him. (He's under Tatiana that time) I agree they always change the scoring system every year. Usually every season they make minor changes. Am glad they change the spin req for guys though. I got really tired of seing guys spamming sit and back sit spins as their combo spins/ solo spins when their camel positions are really shaky/bad. Personally I think one of the difficult changes is to include flying spins during combination spins. I could never really get how they work the scoring. I went to read their official scoring sheet for each skaters sometimes the bias is so obvious. Esp when some skaters gets a lot of GOE +

[sokker]

dud- calm down- it's a bronze, not Olympic gold.... with the new system- people pull up from 6/7th all the time- mainly because lack of consistency- meaning only 2 skaters per competition can skate 2 good routines- all the others screw up 1....glad he did well, though

Congrats, you managed to downplay his win. Was that really necessary? What he did was an accomplishment. Fuck off, seriously.

[dougmc92]

yes- it was necessary- you're getting totally carried away.... about 100 different skaters have won bronze at the Worlds- their's were accomplishments, too- but hardly worth a ticker tape parade....the'fuck off' makes you soud klike a Bieberette- unable to hear anything negative- even when it wasn't wholly negative- you seem a little blinded with adoration!