JustUsBoys.com gay porn forum

logo

remove these banner ads by becoming a JUB Supporter.

Page 5 of 6 FirstFirst ... 456 LastLast
Results 201 to 250 of 275
  1. #201
    JUB Addict vulgar_newcomer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    St. Petersburg
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Single
    Posts
    2,663

    Code of Conduct

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    Even on JUB, mediocre looking white guys get more attention than black or latin men (this is my own observation!). People can argue all they want, but the truth is the truth.
    Giancarlo you were doing fine until this. Of course its your own observation but what you consider a stellar hot dude I may find very mediocre regardless of race or ethnicity. This may be on a physical level or personality and desires.

    How you have the above worded makes me think that there are no mediocre black or Latin guys on JUB but no problem with pointing out there are mediocre white guys. When in fact I would counter there are mediocre guys who don't turn you on from all points on the compass, even broader there are mediocre men & woman everywhere. So my favorite color is green and your's is blue doesn't mean either is mediocre just different to eyes wired to different backgrounds and brains.

    I know from reading your post the kind of guys you find hot don't make my noodle bark at the moon. From your frequently posted view points I realize the kind of guy I am or what I like makes you nauseous in the looks dept.
    Overall I agree with you however the road is 2 ways and cliches are applied to white guys too within those groups of ethic heritage and color that is always ignored, including their own.

    Broaden the spectrum to include the current disdain and down right nasty hatred for HIV pos guys from many of various races and backgrounds. The un-dateables who should really just disappear. There are many examples in addition to this. These are not covered only racial topics in the op gay chat room research, how come?

  2. #202
    GiancarloC
    Guest

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    I'm not trying to gain friends or score brownie points. I'm not into white guys... pretty much. And I have to be pretty direct and to the point on that one. I am not intending to say there are no mediocre black or Latin guys on this site. Honestly, I don't know many Latin guys on here, and there is really only a few black guys (one I talk with on facebook... holyeggroll).

    The point about mediocrity is my own viewpoint and perspective of how I view the picture thread. I am not intending to tell people they must think the same way as I do. There are some good looking white guys I will note, but can't recall seeing anyone attractive to me in that photo thread.

  3. #203
    Are u haleloo ya ? Telstra's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Australia
    Gender
    Male
    Status
    Single
    Posts
    28,406

    Code of Conduct

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by vulgar_newcomer View Post
    Giancarlo you were doing fine until this. Of course its your own observation but what you consider a stellar hot dude I may find very mediocre regardless of race or ethnicity. This may be on a physical level or personality and desires.

    How you have the above worded makes me think that there are no mediocre black or Latin guys on JUB but no problem with pointing out there are mediocre white guys. When in fact I would counter there are mediocre guys who don't turn you on from all points on the compass, even broader there are mediocre men & woman everywhere. So my favorite color is green and your's is blue doesn't mean either is mediocre just different to eyes wired to different backgrounds and brains.

    I know from reading your post the kind of guys you find hot don't make my noodle bark at the moon. From your frequently posted view points I realize the kind of guy I am or what I like makes you nauseous in the looks dept.
    Overall I agree with you however the road is 2 ways and cliches are applied to white guys too within those groups of ethic heritage and color that is always ignored, including their own.

    Broaden the spectrum to include the current disdain and down right nasty hatred for HIV pos guys from many of various races and backgrounds. The un-dateables who should really just disappear. There are many examples in addition to this. These are not covered only racial topics in the op gay chat room research, how come?
    That is going a bit far.
    I don't hate hiv pos guys. I just don't want to get hiv, so the hiv pos guy have to tell before we exchange bodily fluid.


    NEVER LISTEN TO A ONE SIDED STORY AND JUDGE.

  4. #204
    thatgirl
    Guest

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    Technically Asians are about half the population of the planet.. so it's not that sci fi set in the future predicts Asians will population boom, sci fi set in the future showing lots of Asian influence predicts that the dominance in voice/representation of people of European extraction when they're a minority of the human race will fade out.
    lol, Pretty much. It's basically meant to say that in the future the rise of Asian superpowers will have a significant impact on Western cultures.

    Anyway, Firefly did the whole ~American and Asian fusion~ thing but nobody in the main cast was Asian. How odd. And it also opened the show up to the criticism of cultural appropriation because of this...It's a great show tho. But yeah.


  5. #205
    Impish and Mercurial Rolyo85's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Boystown, Chicago
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Single
    Posts
    8,679

    Code of Conduct
    Quote Originally Posted by vulgar_newcomer View Post
    Broaden the spectrum to include the current disdain and down right nasty hatred for HIV pos guys from many of various races and backgrounds. The un-dateables who should really just disappear.
    I don't really know what kind of bigot that makes me, but I would never knowingly date an HIV+ guy. I don't even know if I'll be able to continue a relationship with a guy who got accidentally infected (I mean through an accident, not cheating). I have nothing but compassion for those guys, and I believe that in social environment treating them as having the plague is disgusting. But in terms of romantic and sexual relationships, I just can't do it. The thought of getting infected horrifies me to an extent where I simply don't think it would be possible for me to do anything.
    That we are capable only of being what we are, remains our unforgivable sin.
    - Gene Wolfe

  6. #206

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Originally Posted by GiancarloC
    Even on JUB, mediocre looking white guys get more attention than black or latin men (this is my own observation!). People can argue all they want, but the truth is the truth.
    I think there's a certain sense of "The Grass is Greener" syndrome going on here, and "truth" is subject to the observer.

    I am a 'mediocre' white guy, and from my point of view (my own observation!) I've seen lots of black and latin men get WAY more attention then I ever have on here. (Which they should... they were DAMN good lookin' !!!)
    http://www.justusboys.com/forum/signaturepics/sigpic216959_1.gif

  7. #207
    thatgirl
    Guest

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by gold3509 View Post
    i saw something like this on the Oprah show back in day this white guy took something to make his skin dark just to see what is life would be like as black man walking down the street.. he ran back home and stayed inside until the drug wore out cause he couldnt believe how racist people acted towards him.. he said he now knows what is like for black people. with all the racism in the world...


    I was only able to see a clip of it on Race on the Oprah Show: A Twenty-Five Year Look Back.

    This guy lasted only a week. He couldn't take all the race-based microaggressions, but hopefully it made some white people think. Usually, they're very dismissive of PoC when they point out subtle/covert racist behavior-- "you are just being paranoid!" Yeah right.

    It's @ the 22 min mark.


  8. #208
    penayforay
    Guest

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community



    ah...how lovely

  9. #209
    RazorzEdge88
    Guest

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by penayforay View Post


    ah...how lovely
    I just read that guy's fucking Tumblr. Dumb mistake.

    *SEETHERAGEPUNCH*

  10. #210

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by RazorzEdge88 View Post
    I'm curious--who are those mediocre looking white guys?
    Logan Lerman and Shia Le Boef

  11. #211
    GiancarloC
    Guest

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by borg69unimatrix View Post
    I am a 'mediocre' white guy, and from my point of view (my own observation!) I've seen lots of black and latin men get WAY more attention then I ever have on here. (Which they should... they were DAMN good lookin' !!!)
    Not buying it. I hardly see them get any attention on here at all. But hey that's just my perspective.

  12. #212
    Sex God youfiad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Saint Cloud
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Available
    Posts
    974

    Code of Conduct

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    **Scans actively for summary of origional post/unable to find/ proceeds to comment nontheless**

    What astonishes me more than anything in the world is how other segregated groups have completely turned their back onthe gay community. If you look at statistics, the African/American, Hispanic, and Middle Eastern populations have been some of the worst offenders, (specifically within the USA).

  13. #213
    GiancarloC
    Guest

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    What do you mean by worst offenders? If we look at Maryland, there was a reason why gay marriage was legalized there... and a lot of that had to do with support from the African American community. Hispanics are far more open and supportive than one may think (in general).

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...-gay-marriage/

    I have to find a more recent poll but this is a good one. So worst offenders I think not.

  14. #214
    RazorzEdge88
    Guest

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Hah, yeah, that's demonstrably wrong. You could have made an argument about African Americans, but that completely changed last year.

    There's no longer any reasonable evidence suggesting that racial minorities are holding back gay rights anymore. Enough of that tired-ass meme. It only gives cover to the real enemy, which is fundamentalist religious groups.

  15. #215
    Sex God youfiad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Saint Cloud
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Available
    Posts
    974

    Code of Conduct

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    What do you mean by worst offenders? If we look at Maryland, there was a reason why gay marriage was legalized there... and a lot of that had to do with support from the African American community. Hispanics are far more open and supportive than one may think (in general).

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...-gay-marriage/

    I have to find a more recent poll but this is a good one. So worst offenders I think not.
    Support for same sex marriage has increased in every ethnic group in the USA since 2008 (as far as I'm aware). However, those communities are still a little behind the general public). What strikes me as interesting is how, for the longest time, they were much more against it, even though those times were closer to the point in our history where they had to fight for their rights.

  16. #216
    CE&P Secret Police xbuzzerx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Posts
    9,989

    Code of Conduct

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by youfiad View Post
    Support for same sex marriage has increased in every ethnic group in the USA since 2008 (as far as I'm aware). However, those communities are still a little behind the general public). What strikes me as interesting is how, for the longest time, they were much more against it, even though those times were closer to the point in our history where they had to fight for their rights.
    The black and hispanic communities are also traditionally more religious than the general average.

    What anti-gay sentiments most have in common in the U.S. is religion, not racial background.

  17. #217
    RazorzEdge88
    Guest

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by youfiad View Post
    Support for same sex marriage has increased in every ethnic group in the USA since 2008 (as far as I'm aware). However, those communities are still a little behind the general public)..
    No, they are not. I'm feeling lazy right now, but if I weren't I'd Google this and blast you with a bunch of links debunking this on the subject of Latinos ALONE.

    Just stop peddling this now and do a little research before you dig yourself into a deeper hole.

  18. #218
    Sex God youfiad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Saint Cloud
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Available
    Posts
    974

    Code of Conduct

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    The black and hispanic communities are also traditionally more religious than the general average.

    What anti-gay sentiments most have in common in the U.S. is religion, not racial background.
    That's entirely true, but that doesn't change anything.

  19. #219
    CE&P Secret Police xbuzzerx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Posts
    9,989

    Code of Conduct

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by youfiad View Post
    That's entirely true, but that doesn't change anything.
    It changes your initial assertion that views on homosexuality have any actual hard tie to race.

  20. #220
    GiancarloC
    Guest

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by youfiad View Post
    Support for same sex marriage has increased in every ethnic group in the USA since 2008 (as far as I'm aware). However, those communities are still a little behind the general public). What strikes me as interesting is how, for the longest time, they were much more against it, even though those times were closer to the point in our history where they had to fight for their rights.
    Utter bullocks. That's not the case right now. Perhaps 5 years ago, but not now. I could blast you with links on this one too... and I just cited one. Keep on peddling the same old nonsense. Most polls actually show Latinos are MORE supportive of same sex marriage than whites. Like the one I just posted.

    Same sex marriage support has only increased slightly among whites, who according to the poll I posted were 47% in favor, and 50% against. Latinos were 59% in favor and 30% against. So what does that do to your argument?

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by youfiad View Post
    That's entirely true, but that doesn't change anything.
    This just shows you're not using up to date information.
    Last edited by GiancarloC; February 18th, 2013 at 11:52 PM.

  21. #221
    Sex God youfiad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Saint Cloud
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Available
    Posts
    974

    Code of Conduct

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by RazorzEdge88 View Post
    No, they are not. I'm feeling lazy right now, but if I weren't I'd Google this and blast you with a bunch of links debunking this on the subject of Latinos ALONE.

    Just stop peddling this now and do a little research before you dig yourself into a deeper hole.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/08/us...cket.html?_r=0

    First link I could find on google. I didn't read it. However, it was recent.

    I did skim for keywords in the article and saw bits and peices that are consistent with my claims.

  22. #222
    Come again? dereperez's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Bisexual
    Posts
    3,503
    Blog Entries
    5

    Code of Conduct

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by Telstra View Post
    umm five is quite a lot considering
    each person met countless people for many years ??
    Two things.

    First: The OP did not mention many years...at all.

    Second: There are too many variables that can confound the so-called "conclusion" or "truth". And even then...having a preference for one type or characteristic over the other is not "racism" by any stretch.

  23. #223
    Sex God youfiad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Saint Cloud
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Available
    Posts
    974

    Code of Conduct

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    It changes your initial assertion that views on homosexuality have any actual hard tie to race.
    It has absolutely nothin to do with the skin color. It has to do with ethnicity. You pointing out the fact that they have black skin is trivial and irrelevent. (Yes, I'm being redundant)

  24. #224
    CE&P Secret Police xbuzzerx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Posts
    9,989

    Code of Conduct

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by youfiad View Post
    It has absolutely nothin to do with the skin color. It has to do with ethnicity. You pointing out the fact that they have black skin is trivial and irrelevent. (Yes, I'm being redundant)
    What I'm saying to you is: you claimed that given they should identify with the experience of discrimination, it's odd that more minorities aren't pro-gay-rights.

    What people are pointing out to you is that, on the whole, they are more pro-gay-rights than whites. And the only reason that number isn't bigger is because of religion.

  25. #225
    Sex God youfiad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Saint Cloud
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Available
    Posts
    974

    Code of Conduct

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    What I'm saying to you is: you claimed that given they should identify with the experience of discrimination, it's odd that more minorities aren't pro-gay-rights.

    What people are pointing out to you is that, on the whole, they are more pro-gay-rights than whites. And the only reason that number isn't bigger is because of religion.
    I agee. Which is the same reason why many "white" countries are far behind in gay rights than American whites, blacks, latinos and arabs.

    http://www.pewforum.org/a-religious-...americans.aspx

    I'm not too overly convinced that the numbers are solely due to religion, but it is a contributing factor. Black men tend to be far less accepting of same sex marriage whereas they tend to have similar numbers in religious affiliation
    http://www.theroot.com/views/gay-mar...ack-gender-gap

  26. #226
    GiancarloC
    Guest

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by youfiad View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/08/us...cket.html?_r=0

    First link I could find on google. I didn't read it. However, it was recent.

    I did skim for keywords in the article and saw bits and peices that are consistent with my claims.
    You said Latinos were behind whites... yet more Latinos support same sex marriage? Read it please.

  27. #227
    GiancarloC
    Guest

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by youfiad View Post
    It has absolutely nothin to do with the skin color. It has to do with ethnicity. You pointing out the fact that they have black skin is trivial and irrelevent. (Yes, I'm being redundant)
    Man oh man... your argument is all over the place right now... it's a big mess.

    Some Latin American countries have same sex marriage and adoption rights legal on the federal level. America does not. Argument debunked.

  28. #228
    Sex God youfiad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Saint Cloud
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Available
    Posts
    974

    Code of Conduct

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    Man oh man... your argument is all over the place right now... it's a big mess.

    Some Latin American countries have same sex marriage and adoption rights legal on the federal level. America does not. Argument debunked.
    No it's not. My words are just being slaughtered, butchered, and hung out in awkward ways; a common accurance it seems on this site .

    As far as your Latino comment. I didn't realize that it was so high. However, my other statements are extremely true. Pick and choose all you want, it doesn't bother me. Call my arguments fallacious, that's fine with me, but you're just avoiding the point.

    I will give Obama credit though; he does have a way of swinging public opinions on social issues. Since he came out in support of same sex marriage (whether he is or isn't is a different topic). But since he has officially supported it (for the second time in political carreer), public opinions have increased significantly.

  29. #229
    GiancarloC
    Guest

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by youfiad View Post
    No it's not. My words are just being slaughtered, butchered, and hung out in awkward ways; a common accurance it seems on this site .
    No. I didn't have to do that.

    What astonishes me more than anything in the world is how other segregated groups have completely turned their back onthe gay community. If you look at statistics, the African/American, Hispanic, and Middle Eastern populations have been some of the worst offenders, (specifically within the USA).

    This is what was originally said, and it's completely false.

    However, my other statements are extremely true. Pick and choose all you want, it doesn't bother me. Call my arguments fallacious, that's fine with me, but you're just avoiding the point.
    How are they 'extremely true"? I haven't seen any poll on Arab-Americans, but African Americans actually support gay marriage by a majority. Whites still do not according to 2012 Exit Polling. Your arguments are totally fallacious. And what point?

    Obama is not the key cause here. Opinions were shifting before he came out in support.

  30. #230
    RazorzEdge88
    Guest

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by youfiad View Post
    No it's not. My words are just being slaughtered, butchered, and hung out in awkward ways; a common accurance it seems on this site .

    As far as your Latino comment. I didn't realize that it was so high. However, my other statements are extremely true. Pick and choose all you want, it doesn't bother me. Call my arguments fallacious, that's fine with me, but you're just avoiding the point.

    I will give Obama credit though; he does have a way of swinging public opinions on social issues. Since he came out in support of same sex marriage (whether he is or isn't is a different topic). But since he has officially supported it (for the second time in political carreer), public opinions have increased significantly.
    Really? Because your statement also flies in the face of the fact that a lot of polls are finding that black people support same-sex marriage at a much higher rate than whites in a number of states (specifically red states or socially conservative rust belt states like PA).

    So you've already been proven wrong about Latinos. What happens when you're proven wrong about black people as well? Are you going to keep moving the goalposts? "Okay, I'm only wrong about two things! But everything else I said still stands!" (even though there's really nothing left after that)

  31. #231
    GiancarloC
    Guest

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by RazorzEdge88 View Post
    So you've already been proven wrong about Latinos. What happens when you're proven wrong about black people as well? Are you going to keep moving the goalposts? "Okay, I'm only wrong about two things! But everything else I said still stands!" (even though there's really nothing left after that)
    I guess he's going to blame Arab-Americans now lol.

    He left a post message saying he knows "many people from South America" lol... I lived there for almost 8 years (Argentina for 4 years). So I need to believe "his word"... over the facts and reality. A majority in several countries where same sex marriage is legal support that and also support gay people (like in Argentina).

  32. #232
    Sex God youfiad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Saint Cloud
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Available
    Posts
    974

    Code of Conduct

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by RazorzEdge88 View Post
    Really? Because your statement also flies in the face of the fact that a lot of polls are finding that black people support same-sex marriage at a much higher rate than whites in a number of states (specifically red states or socially conservative rust belt states like PA).

    So you've already been proven wrong about Latinos. What happens when you're proven wrong about black people as well? Are you going to keep moving the goalposts? "Okay, I'm only wrong about two things! But everything else I said still stands!" (even though there's really nothing left after that)
    Everything else I said was completely valid. You can choose to accept it or not. No skin off my back

  33. #233
    GiancarloC
    Guest

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by youfiad View Post
    Everything else I said was completely valid. You can choose to accept it or not. No skin off my back
    Oh I see. It's the "because I say so" argument. And that one "knows a lot of people from South America" lol. Righhhtttt...

    Your argument was mostly if not entirely FALSE.

  34. #234
    Sex God youfiad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Saint Cloud
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Available
    Posts
    974

    Code of Conduct

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Let me just set things straight. You guys attack me from every oriface in my body, find one thing that I said that was wrong, then claim a victory? Congratufuckulations!! So, get over yourselves, and stick to the topics, or just don't post. It's kind of annoying and pathetic, to say the very least.

  35. #235
    GiancarloC
    Guest

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Na. We took the entire argument you posted and found it almost completely false. I'm not going to say entirely false as I haven't seen any polling on Arab-Americans. But the points on Latinos and African Americans are completely false.

  36. #236
    Sex God youfiad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Saint Cloud
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Available
    Posts
    974

    Code of Conduct

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    And for the other record, I can't defend myself against GiancarloC since I put him on ignore and can no longer read what he posts. So if I don't reply to him, that's why

  37. #237
    RazorzEdge88
    Guest

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by youfiad View Post
    Everything else I said was completely valid. You can choose to accept it or not. No skin off my back
    "Everything else"? The only thing you had left was Middle Easterners.

    And you know, while I'm not disinclined to agree, I have to point out that I've never really seen any study on the attitudes of Middle Eastern Americans on gay rights, so basically the only one of the three groups you might have gotten right was likely based on conjecture.

  38. #238
    Sex God youfiad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Saint Cloud
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Available
    Posts
    974

    Code of Conduct

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by RazorzEdge88 View Post
    "Everything else"? The only thing you had left was Middle Easterners.

    And you know, while I'm not disinclined to agree, I have to point out that I've never really seen any study on the attitudes of Middle Eastern Americans on gay rights, so basically the only one of the three groups you might have gotten right was likely based on conjecture.
    And African/American. You can't forget the African American one. That has hardly been won.

  39. #239
    RazorzEdge88
    Guest

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by youfiad View Post
    And African/American. You can't forget the African American one. That has hardly been won.
    Oh dear lord. I just explained why that one's wrong!

  40. #240
    Sex God youfiad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Saint Cloud
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Available
    Posts
    974

    Code of Conduct

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by RazorzEdge88 View Post
    Oh dear lord. I just explained why that one's wrong!
    Not really. You gave some random words without any numbers or sources.

    That only flies in social science courses. In a science classroom, that's an F

  41. #241
    GiancarloC
    Guest

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by youfiad View Post
    And for the other record, I can't defend myself against GiancarloC since I put him on ignore and can no longer read what he posts. So if I don't reply to him, that's why
    LOL... uh huh. Sure. I'll believe that lol.

    The facts are too much. Somebody please quote me so he can see lol.

  42. #242
    CE&P Secret Police xbuzzerx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Posts
    9,989

    Code of Conduct

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by youfiad View Post
    Not really. You gave some random words without any numbers or sources.

    That only flies in social science courses. In a science classroom, that's an F
    You do realize this is a social sciences topic you meandered into? And you're now insulting everyone from that field.

  43. #243
    RazorzEdge88
    Guest

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by youfiad View Post
    Not really. You gave some random words without any numbers or sources.

    That only flies in social science courses. In a science classroom, that's an F
    PublicPolicyPolling. Go look at a lot of their recent state-by-state polls on same-sex marriage and tell me what you see. They have cross-tabs by race.

    And you're the one who's making wild-ass, borderline racist assertions about the bigotry of ethnic minorities here, so the onus should be on you to back up your statements, not the other way around.

    Edit: BTW, that's usually the common fallback of someone not having any real ground to stand on any more. "You mentioned concrete studies that back up what you're saying, but you have to spend your time sifting through them and *directly cite* them in order to prove me wrong, even though I have absolutely no proof of my own claims."
    Last edited by RazorzEdge88; February 19th, 2013 at 01:30 AM.

  44. #244
    Sex God youfiad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Saint Cloud
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Available
    Posts
    974

    Code of Conduct

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    You do realize this is a social sciences topic you meandered into? And you're now insulting everyone from that field.
    If people get insulted by that then they're too touchy

    About this being a social science issue, sure, of course it is. I was merely making a joke. Social scientists still use numbers, and calculus even (my calculus book was awkwardly a social sciences book)

  45. #245
    GiancarloC
    Guest

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    You do realize this is a social sciences topic you meandered into? And you're now insulting everyone from that field.
    Careful he "knows" many people from Latin America lol...

    He's made some ridiculous claims and they have been pretty much all debunked. And now he refuses to admit he was mistaken.

  46. #246
    CE&P Secret Police xbuzzerx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Posts
    9,989

    Code of Conduct

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by youfiad View Post
    If people get insulted by that then they're too touchy

    About this being a social science issue, sure, of course it is. I was merely making a joke. Social scientists still use numbers, and calculus even (my calculus book was awkwardly a social sciences book)
    Not at all. My reaction to that sort of comment comes from a lifetime-thus-far of the bias from people in the hard sciences field that everything in the social sciences is just fluff, basketweaving or making up whatever opinion you want on the basis that you can't apply clinical testing with every variable controlled to complex social phenomenon. That does not, however, mean that you cannot apply the scientific method, hard numbers, stats, and measurable variables and reach conclusions based on wide preponderance of evidence-- but it does mean you can never possibly have clinical trials for something as complex as 'racism' or 'prejudice' or 'social attitudes.'

    If it wasn't your intent to make that sort of implication then my apologies. But it certainly wouldn't be the first time I'd heard that sort of a bigoted, dismissive attitude from someone in the hard sciences about everything in the social sciences, as if it's all just baseless opinion and so everyone has an equally valid claim or opinion on it.

  47. #247
    Sex God youfiad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Saint Cloud
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Available
    Posts
    974

    Code of Conduct

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Not all of it is fluff. However, I do agree, we do often think that some of the stuff, and conclusions are fluff. The good social sciences are purely logical, or mathematically supported, or both. I have run into my fair share of social pseudoscience though; (I had to sit through a two hour lecture on sexism). Not that I disagree with some of the claims, but many of them I found to be utter shit (apprently it's sexist to call a woman a girl but it's not sexist to call a man a boy) <---- Social power sctructure bullshit. Of course you can apply the scientific method to social issues, and it is done very well, very often. However, it is also done, equally often, with horrible implementation. For me, the worst part is the statistics that is done in social sciences to back claims. (which is the reason I tend to stay away from numbers because they are often obtained in biased ways with the distinct intent to back claims). It's done more often than I like in the hard sciences too. That stuff is thankfully filtered through in the big scientific journals though.

    I tend to be more accepting of the social sciences mostly because I was a liberal arts major before a hard science major. I really like sociology and psychology, however, I don't think some of the popular beliefs are very accurate to reality but that they actually have a more political sway.

  48. #248
    The old familiar sting blackbeltninja's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Cape Town; the arse-end of the Dark Continent
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Bisexual
    Status
    Single
    Posts
    9,619
    Blog Entries
    17

    Code of Conduct

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    Well if you're looking at it that way, the main problem with your theory is that an overwhelming bulk of people on the planet still, even with the increase in mobility and transportation, don't wind up more than 100 miles from where they were born. You can't point at the continuance of a majority of mono-racial couplings on the planet and say "well, that's just natural preference obviously" when most people on the planet only see people that look like themselves on a day to day basis, and the great majority of them won't ever leave their country or even their region.
    I would still think that during the ages of great exploration where there was plenty of cross-pollination occurring, there would be more evidence of it than there is currently.

    Likewise with times of conflict - Alexander's empire spanned half the globe. So did Ghenghis Khan's. Khan's was 30 generations or more ago; and Alexander's 1500 years before that. These guys operated on the principle of rape and pillage. Where are the descendants? A massive army comes in and kills the men and impregnates the women, I'd have thought it would be quite obvious in later years. And yet it doesn't seem to have been; at least, not in terms of appearance. Perhaps the evidence is more at a sub-cellular level - different enzyme isoforms and so on.

    As I said, I'd be interested to see what it looks like in 1000 years' time.

    -d-
    Members: [insert appropriate/relevant wise saying or deep thought here]
    Thank you.


    I hope you get this message.
    Comments welcome.

  49. #249
    Match in the gas tank..
    Taralen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Gender
    Male
    Status
    Open Relationship
    Posts
    596

    Code of Conduct

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    All that time could have been used on useful studies, was used on what 98% have done. Use a fake dating profile.

    Going back on this racism/interracial dating in the gay culture, I'm going to reveal all the secrets. lol.

    White guys love to flirt, especially to more masculine looking GBM. They won't go up and approach and ask the guy out, but he will simply flirt. Ain't nothing wrong with that, but c'mon man. Let's be friends. :P

    Since I lived in Toronto and Los Angeles, I can only speak for those areas. Usually in the west hollywood area, it's a lot of S&M crap going on. Gay bear/hipster culture is very interracial. Same with the twink. Reason as to why I love LA. White guys can't keep their eyes off me. I know back east in Atlanta, D.C., Brooklyn, the same can't be said.

    In some sad cases, If you are a black/asian guy, the white guy will not want to be seen in public with you. Everything will be behind closed doors at his convenience. Occasionally he will take you out to lunch or dinner or to the movies and shit like that, but that's once in a blue moon. He will probably never introduce you to his white friends or family and usually it's late night early morning rendezvous in his bedroom.

    I completely agree with another poster that said minority gay men, especially gay black men need to seek men from other countries. My boyfriend was born in Croatia and is Croatian/Italian and with a student visa he migrated to Los Angeles in 2010 to transfer in UCLA where I dropped out of. :P

    He is now an American citizen . and he is the love of my life and strangely enough I'm the first black guy he's been with. In these eastern European countries, they are hardly ever any black men. Usually in western Europe there is a big black population though.

    I might add more, but that's all I'm gonna add for right now. No disrespect to the OP, but all this was a waste of fucking time and usually gay interracial action that does happen is like I said, behind closed doors and isn't really advertised. It isn't important. I have my man and that's all that counts. I'm attracted to all races, just happen to be a black guy who is with a white guy. :P
    Last edited by Taralen; February 19th, 2013 at 03:33 AM.
    Glass Half Empty, Glass Half Full
    http://colorfulqueers.tumblr.com/

  50. #250
    On the Prowl
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Fort Worth
    Gender
    Male
    Orientation
    Gay
    Status
    Single
    Posts
    52

    Code of Conduct

    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by refujiunderground View Post
    you pretty much are saying things that some of us know because we experience it on a daily basis. i myself know this off the bat even when i was a closet case because i would notice how strange some of the gay guys who happened to be white would act whenever they would come around us when my homeboys and me would happen to pass by them on some stuck up shit. racism is real. if you aren't white in the lgbt community, you pretty much are going to be overlooked by damn near everybody. it's basically the way the whole culture is run. you pretty much have white guys on the magazines, models that are white, on the damn gay club flyers and etc. white guys are supposedly the "representatives" of the lgbt community and everybody else is just brushed to the side as if we don't exist. sure you might see an asian gay community or a black gay community but they're nowhere near as strong as the white gay community because everybody sticks together and you have some powerful heads that have influence on the world outthere. that white supremacist ideology shit is real, i don't care what anybody says. it runs the world and that's fucked up if you ask me.

    then you have these folks that simply don't get it when you make threads like these and they happen to be white. they pretty much try to dismiss this shit as if they know how it feels to be in the next person shoes when they never ever will experience it. that's the honest truth. i'm just sick and tired of seeing folks basically being prejudiced and the whole nine themselves, racist, sexist and even homophobic towards themselves then trying to play the victim card because they're being discriminated for being gay. how can you feel sorry for an asshole?
    This post ^ pretty much sums it up, but I will add a little more.

    What's sad is my situation. I pursue guys of all races, as I find all races at least somewhat attractive, as any mature man does. Do I *lean* towards some races over others? Sure! I lean more toward other black guys, as well as Latinos.

    But! I do not shut out white and Asian guys. Indeed, the racism starts when you start shutting out entire races without giving individuals from said race chances as PEOPLE.

    Anyway. I get rejected by non-black guys because I'm black... but I also get rejected by other black guys because, and I quote many of said black guys: I "don't act black".

    That crap's just as racist as the white, Latin, etc guys who don't talk to me because I'm black! Apparently things like my storm spotting/chasing hobby, my love of riding my moped and my scooter for transportation rather than driving, and my love of role-playing games (all three of these have been cited in the "arguments" of people claiming I don't "act black") somehow justify race-based rejection.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Terms of Service | Privacy Policy | About JustUsBoys.com | Site Map | RSS | Webmasters | Advertise | Link to JUB | Report A Bug on this Page

Visit our sister sites: Broke Straight Boys | CollegeDudes.com | CollegeBoyPhysicals.com | RocketTube
All models appearing on JustUsBoys.com were over 18 at the time of photography. The records for sexually explicit images required by U.S. 2257 are kept by the
individual producers of the images. The location of the records is available by clicking the Custodian of Records link at the bottom of each gallery page.
© 2012 JustUsBoys.com. The JustUsBoys.com name and logo are registered trademarks. Labeled with ICRA and RTA. Member of ASACP and The Free Speech Coalition.