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  1. #101
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    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Huge LOL at the comments on fancy language, reaching vocabulary, and the like.

    What a comical result. My posting style, language, tone, and equanimity are identical to how I began posting over 10,000 posts ago, and how I post on every serious topic. The suggestion that vocabulary is elevated is funny, just plain old funny. None of my vocabulary is actually over the high school level from the era in which I attended public schools.

    As we are all People of Color, I don't use that term nor find it meaningful. In any and every culture on the planet, there are majorities and minorities, some racial, most cultural, some deprived, some privileged, and everything in between.

    If rage seems the needed emotion, then conjure it and be its slave. Discourse is the matter at hand, not invectives, not accusative exchanges, not circling of the racial wagons.

    That racism exists, and obviously it does as heard from multiple races in this thread, is not contended. That hookup sites, and this experiment in particular, have any relevance is what is debatable. Refusing to accept that it can be debatable is the essence of ranting versus dialogues.

    If we're all just supposed to line up for a daisy chain of assent, then that's just silly and doesn't accomplish anything but a big piss and moan fest, as usual.
    Last edited by Hard-up1; February 15th, 2013 at 07:37 PM.

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    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard-up1 View Post
    As we are all People of Color, I don't use that term nor find it meaningful. In any and every culture on the planet, there are majorities and minorities, some racial, most cultural, some deprived, some privileged, and everything in between.
    People of Color is talking about the racial minorities in white-dominated western societies, particular in the Americas, and not about cultural or other- forms of group distinction.

    It is just another term for racial minorities and, many people feel, a more inclusive/positive term.

    Just pointing out that you said you don't find it meaningful and then compared it to a bunch of situations to which the term was never meant to imply, like racial or ethnic or cultural or socioeconomic hierarchies in other societies elsewhere. It's specific to the context I mentioned above and is meaningful in that context.

  3. #103
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    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    If you say so Hard-up1 but I do wonder if you talk like that in real life. This is an informal discussion on a forum regardless of whether it is a serious subject or not.
    I've seen some of your other posts. You don't always talk like this. Don't even front. You know exactly what you're doing when you choose to needlessly add SAT words to your posts. So instead of being "flummoxed" and shit when called out on it maybe you should own up to your own crap. See what I did there?
    Most of us have gone through memorizing a shit ton of vocab for the SAT. Some of us have spent years learning vocab for the GRE. Do we find it necessary in forum posts? No. You made a conscious choice to use particular words and you know exactly why you did so.
    I also really do wonder how much professors in this day and age would hate your guts for your manner of speaking.

    also your statement on "people of color" suggests a lack of knowledge on the history of the term tbh.

    edit: I had a great article on the history of the term. I'm extremely tired and dont know whether I should find it or let everyone google it
    Last edited by penayforay; February 15th, 2013 at 07:51 PM.

  4. #104
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    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    No, I'm intentionally using it loosely. Much about racism is actually a cultural clash more than anything about race exclusively.

    So, POC is yet another term that gets used as a sociopolitical correction that tends to upstage the actual discussion by redefining normal everyday realities.

    All people have color, and no one I've ever met in any first person encounter ever considered himself and referred to himself as a person of color. They have all termed themselves either Black, White, Native, Chinese. POC is a PC term reserved for rarified discourse.

    In JUB's attempts to discuss race, it invariably returns to a pattern of throwing out all of another's member's posting, attitudes, and friendships, and attempting to force some esoteric concession on a narrow slice of the race discussion. I've posted on JUB in Hot Topics for over seven years, and seen precious little of anything that can be termed hostile to another race. We have thousands of members, and it is truly rare, despite the constant spin on here about it. It exists on here, but the constant witch hunt to find more of it than is here, or to expose some other member is just a gratuitous exercise that fosters paranoia.

    It's much like the notion that racism cannot be from a minority against the majority population or ethnic group. Whereas that may be current or accurate in academic redefinition or narrowed use, the dictionary reveals that racism is racism, plain and simple, without the redefinition.

  5. #105
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    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    ...you think we talk about it because we're on a witch hunt; to expose some other member?

    what kind of delusion

  6. #106
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    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    No, I don't.

    I think that during the threads there are always those who begin to circle when they encounter dissent, and attribute hidden racism within the dissenter. No, I don't necessarily mean the majority of posters, just those that tend to argue subpoints excessively and repeatedly.

    And, btw, I never studied vocabulary for anything in my life other than the weekly list in my English class, so I'm apparently not in the imagined profile you have assigned me for using words that are not my own.

    I hold an English degree, taught school, worked in a factory as an assembler, worked as an accountant, and as a program manager, so my education and my experience may have contributed to me appearing an unfamiliar persona to you.

    And my perspective is that this IS real life, just another dimension of it. I am the same man here as I am in my town. My picture is in my profile. My home is featured in my albums here. I have posted my love life here unvarnished, for the world to see.

    I'm sorry if you are put off by my words, but I assure you they are my own.
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  7. #107
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    as for that comment you posted on my post:
    oh please. I wouldn't be surprised if your intentions behind the use of certain vocabulary in those "PM's" happens to be the same intentions behind the use of "impugned"

    I have never met ANYONE in academia that talks the way you do (maybe they do in their papers but this is a PORN forum.). Regardless of age. Regardless of discipline. Seriously? C'mon.
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  8. #108
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    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Then you haven't met me and you are imposing your own attributions. I don't have to be credible to you -- I have to be me.

    I invited you to PM well-known members on here that I've PM'd with for some time. They can readily tell you that my language is my language in all settings.

    Sometimes I quip with short barbs, but I usually am long-winded, and speak just as I do now. I've never had any member before suggest my language is not my natural vocabulary.

    If you want to investigate your accusation, ask them. If you want to continue to attack me based on a criticism that you won't validate when you are able, then that says something in and of itself, now doesn't it?

    It's pretty convenient when you have moved from accusing me of using a false vocabulary in the thread to using it in my private messages with friends.

    If I'm using it all over the place, exactly how is it false to the real me?
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    Its within the realm of possibility that someone would bring the language they use in their work outside to a PORN forum but I'm not buying it because while its in the realm of possibility, the realm is extremely small.

    As I said, the intention may be the same in ALL settings. As for "investigation," looking through your previous posts....again I'm not buying it. Sorry.

  10. #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard-up1 View Post
    No, I don't.
    but the constant witch hunt to find more of it than is here, or to expose some other member is just a gratuitous exercise that fosters paranoia.
    yes. we POC have discussions like this because we have nothing better to do.

    still waiting for which specific "imprecations" are indicative of the OP's "bias" tbh
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    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard-up1 View Post
    No, I'm intentionally using it loosely. Much about racism is actually a cultural clash more than anything about race exclusively.

    So, POC is yet another term that gets used as a sociopolitical correction that tends to upstage the actual discussion by redefining normal everyday realities.

    All people have color, and no one I've ever met in any first person encounter ever considered himself and referred to himself as a person of color. They have all termed themselves either Black, White, Native, Chinese. POC is a PC term reserved for rarified discourse.

    In JUB's attempts to discuss race, it invariably returns to a pattern of throwing out all of another's member's posting, attitudes, and friendships, and attempting to force some esoteric concession on a narrow slice of the race discussion. I've posted on JUB in Hot Topics for over seven years, and seen precious little of anything that can be termed hostile to another race. We have thousands of members, and it is truly rare, despite the constant spin on here about it. It exists on here, but the constant witch hunt to find more of it than is here, or to expose some other member is just a gratuitous exercise that fosters paranoia.

    It's much like the notion that racism cannot be from a minority against the majority population or ethnic group. Whereas that may be current or accurate in academic redefinition or narrowed use, the dictionary reveals that racism is racism, plain and simple, without the redefinition.
    This is factually incorrect in the context we're talking about (the U.S.) where race has been hard defined and codified by law in much of U.S. history when it comes to de jure segregation, discrimination and a racist distribution of legal and social rights by race.

    No, it wasn't just "a clash of cultures." Considering that neither Natives nor blacks in U.S. had much say in the matter in terms of being forced to interact with a white culture that classified them, openly and legally, as subhuman or with subordinate rights, saying it was just a clash of cultures is euphemizing history at best.
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    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Actually, the context is "the gay community" not "the US."
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    Actually, the context is "the gay community" not "the US."
    Not on the specific point we're discussing no.

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    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    Not on the specific point we're discussing no.
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    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard-up1 View Post
    It's much like the notion that racism cannot be from a minority against the majority population or ethnic group. Whereas that may be current or accurate in academic redefinition or narrowed use, the dictionary reveals that racism is racism, plain and simple, without the redefinition.
    The problem with the definition in the dictionary (which is not the one used in academia) is that it equates "I don't like white people" with "Purple people are inferior, should not be allowed to testify in court, should not be able to purchase homes in white communities etc."

    Your tone implies this is just some made-up distinction when the difference is incredibly stark between racial prejudice and racist beliefs.

    POC is a PC term reserved for rarified discourse.
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    People have just 'invented' this term out of some kind of imposition of political correctness?

    Presumably you know what the NAACP stands for?
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    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    LMAO! Did I really just read that top quote? Ben, seriously, did you just imply blacks all carry Rastafarian hairdos and Indian guys all look like devout Sikhs or something, and they should stop if they want white dates?
    I have a feeling Benvolio is a really old white guy still living in the 50's

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    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    I Love Threads Like This.

    It is so good to see everyone pull their pants down and show us what they got when it comes to perspectives on race and sexual preferences.

    Predictably, it brings out the inner beauty of some and exposes the dark and ugly white supremacist soul of others.

    Inevitably the racists on the site will withdraw before they cross a CoC line so that they can continue to play and someone will end up leaving JUB because they find the naked racism of avatars like Benvolio and a couple of others for instance, off-putting and disturbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    I Love Threads Like This.

    It is so good to see everyone pull their pants down and show us what they got when it comes to perspectives on race and sexual preferences.

    Predictably, it brings out the inner beauty of some and exposes the dark and ugly white supremacist soul of others.

    Inevitably the racists on the site will withdraw before they cross a CoC line so that they can continue to play and someone will end up leaving JUB because they find the naked racism of avatars like Benvolio and a couple of others for instance, off-putting and disturbing.
    Totally agree! Some of these comments are so vile that I cannot imagine someone saying that to me in a discussion! However, I've had such a remark being thrown at me before. I was polite initially, then I went into full-blast mode. Needless to say, the person was left with nothing but shame and the need to reflect on his damned life...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    I Love Threads Like This.

    It is so good to see everyone pull their pants down and show us what they got when it comes to perspectives on race and sexual preferences.

    Predictably, it brings out the inner beauty of some and exposes the dark and ugly white supremacist soul of others.

    Inevitably the racists on the site will withdraw before they cross a CoC line so that they can continue to play and someone will end up leaving JUB because they find the naked racism of avatars like Benvolio and a couple of others for instance, off-putting and disturbing.


    Uh huh, yes it does, indeed.

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    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by kayman23 View Post


    Uh huh, yes it does, indeed.
    Actually, mine was the only constructive suggestion when hylas asked white he could not make more white friends. I suggested the clean cut look. Who else offered something constructive?
    I did point out that minority men tend to wear facial hair, but that is cultural, not racial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harke the Boeotarch View Post
    Let's all jump in front of a moving train because someone on the internet behaves like an arsehole...
    Not at all what was being said, but thanks for attempting to sweep the topic under the rug and act as if it has no validity simply because it's uncomfortable for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Actually, mine was the only constructive suggestion when hylas asked white he could not make more white friends. I suggested the clean cut look. Who else offered something constructive?
    I did point out that minority men tend to wear facial hair, but that is cultural, not racial.
    Except the majority of white guys aren't doing the clean cut look either. Minority men tend to have a cleaner look that the white boys out there today.

    Still everything your saying is highly ignorant and racist.

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    Mr. Whitaker who is millioniare is accused of stealing... by a 5 dollar an hours deli store clerk...

    in my opinion that was racial profiling the racism that still exist .... and people will continue to pretend it doesnt exist...




    Forest Whitaker says he was wrongly accused of shoplifting from Manhattan deli, given humiliating pat-down
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    Last Updated: 8:39 PM, February 16, 2013
    Posted: 12:24 PM, February 16, 2013


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    The Milano Market on Broadway where the actor says he was searched.


    Oscar-winning actor Forest Whitaker was accused of shoplifting and then publicly frisked inside a Manhattan deli yesterday morning.

    The movie star, in town filming “Black Nativity” with Jennifer Hudson, was about to leave the Milano Market on Broadway when one of the workers there claimed to have seen him snag an item from a store shelf, his spokesperson said.

    The worker stopped Whitaker and allegedly gave him a humiliating pat down in full view of everyone in the Morningside Heights store.

    Lenny Abbot, PacificCoastNews.coForest Whitaker on the set of his upcoming movie "Black Nativity"No stolen items were found and Whitaker left. His driver, Reggie Crupe, said he was parked outside waiting when the actor came out of the store.

    “An employee from the store came outside to speak with him and to apologize,” Crupe said in a statement. “He told Mr. Whitaker that the cameras in the store were at a bad angle and that he could not see if Forest had stolen anything.”

    The employee even tried to offer the millionaire actor free food to make up for what had happened.

    Whitaker’s spokeswoman said the incident violated the actor’s rights.

    “This was an upsetting incident given the fact that Forest did nothing more than walk into the deli,” Jennifer Plante said. “Forest did not call the authorities at the request of the worker who was in fear of losing his employment.”

    Instead, Whitaker, who won the best actor Oscar for his role in 2006’s “The Last King of Scotland,” asked the store to change the way it treats its customers.



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    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by gold3509 View Post
    Mr. Whitaker who is millioniare is accused of stealing... by a 5 dollar an hours deli store clerk...

    in my opinion that was racial profiling the racism that still exist .... and people will continue to pretend it doesnt exist...




    Forest Whitaker says he was wrongly accused of shoplifting from Manhattan deli, given humiliating pat-down
    By KATHIANNE BONIELLO
    Last Updated: 8:39 PM, February 16, 2013
    Posted: 12:24 PM, February 16, 2013


    Warzer Jaff
    The Milano Market on Broadway where the actor says he was searched.


    Oscar-winning actor Forest Whitaker was accused of shoplifting and then publicly frisked inside a Manhattan deli yesterday morning.

    The movie star, in town filming “Black Nativity” with Jennifer Hudson, was about to leave the Milano Market on Broadway when one of the workers there claimed to have seen him snag an item from a store shelf, his spokesperson said.

    The worker stopped Whitaker and allegedly gave him a humiliating pat down in full view of everyone in the Morningside Heights store.

    Lenny Abbot, PacificCoastNews.coForest Whitaker on the set of his upcoming movie "Black Nativity"No stolen items were found and Whitaker left. His driver, Reggie Crupe, said he was parked outside waiting when the actor came out of the store.

    “An employee from the store came outside to speak with him and to apologize,” Crupe said in a statement. “He told Mr. Whitaker that the cameras in the store were at a bad angle and that he could not see if Forest had stolen anything.”

    The employee even tried to offer the millionaire actor free food to make up for what had happened.

    Whitaker’s spokeswoman said the incident violated the actor’s rights.

    “This was an upsetting incident given the fact that Forest did nothing more than walk into the deli,” Jennifer Plante said. “Forest did not call the authorities at the request of the worker who was in fear of losing his employment.”

    Instead, Whitaker, who won the best actor Oscar for his role in 2006’s “The Last King of Scotland,” asked the store to change the way it treats its customers.



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    i'm sure you know living in westchester that the new york tri state area is probably one of the most racist and most segregated areas in the united states. it's REALLY that bad. this doesn't surprise me at all. over here in north jersey, it's just as bad. i happen to live in a community which has a mixed population. when you go west, it gets whiter. when you go east, it gets blacker. if you're black, you have to watch your ass either way. you have the folks in those uppity towns which have a high white population that don't want you there or they think that they're a crook or something. then you have the poor communities with a high black population where some folks such as some idiots with nothing better to do are looking for trouble and being black just makes you a target for folks to bring their trouble to. in either community, you have the cops looking at you as if you're the number one suspect. i remember waiting at the bus stop in irvington waiting for a 25 bus so i can go to the lgbt center in new york where the police was across the street looking over at me thinking i was a drug dealer. the officer was a black man like me. it's messed up. i can go on about the many times i've been harassed by cops being treated like i was a drug kingpin or a damn murderer like the time i was in warren county and some dickhead bitchmade fucking cop was trying to rough me up. i hope somebody capped that punk ass bitch's ass.
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    OOOOHHHHHHH. LOL. There was poster on here that told me racist gay white men did not exist, and that GAY was the new BLACK.lol. I wonder is he reading this thread.lol. I can guarantee that some of these gay white men, that look down on black gay people, or use them as sex objects, while screaming GAY RIGHTS,are the main ones wearing those pretty freshly pressed white sheets over their heads, drinking up a storm with their fellow "good ole' boys."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    OOOOHHHHHHH. LOL. There was poster on here that told me racist gay white men did not exist, and that GAY was the new BLACK.lol. I wonder is he reading this thread.lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalFudge View Post
    I wonder what Medusa thinks about this?



    But since it's the struggle that some gheys face involving racism I'm sure it doesn't matter
    I am so glad you mention my name,sweetie. What I think I have already posted, but let me just say this. Race comes first in America, sexuality comes second. Now all you guys can say "NNNNNOOOOO THAT NOT TRUE.ALL GAYS ARE IN THIS TOGETHER" and I will say bull fucking shit. Gay white men still benefit the privileges of being white (yes I said it, and I don't give a damn), while gay black people well... look at where they are.So of course I will somewhat care that my fellow blacks are getting discriminated against by their "so called" fellow community(yeah that's funny), I mean come on, I am black. And I guess for them it's a double whammy, or dishearten that the buck of the GL community looks down upon them, just like their straight counterparts. On the flipside though, I have notice that the black community is becoming more open minded to their gay folks,so that's a good thing. Hopefully in the next few years the black community as a whole will get their shit together, and top giving each the side eye.

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    Re: My revised outlook on racism in the gay community

    Quote Originally Posted by BrimstoneAndTreacle View Post
    I dunno... it's always been strange to me when guys categorically say they aren't attracted to an entire ethnic group.
    Agreed, which is why I said "generally" in my post. I generally tend to be attracted to guys who look much like me, though, but even it that was exclusively who I went for I wouldn't even contemplate putting "no non-whites" on a dating profile. Having said that, for hook-ups, I do kinda understand why people do.


    Quote Originally Posted by BrimstoneAndTreacle View Post
    To some extent, biology may play a role, but it's hard for me to understand the people who will just outright ostracize blacks, Asians, Hispanics, etc. It makes me wonder to what extent the racial preferences are socially-conditioned; that is, to what extent (unconscious) internalized racism filters its way into people's sexuality. The fact that interracial relationships are growing more common with time and among younger generations suggests whatever biological predispositions are at work are fairly limited.
    As has been mentioned here already, I wonder if it's more of a xenophobic/cultural thing which puts people off. Like assuming all gay guys are effeminate, love showtunes and hate sports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    I am so glad you mention my name,sweetie. What I think I have already posted, but let me just say this. Race comes first in America, sexuality comes second. Now all you guys can say "NNNNNOOOOO THAT NOT TRUE.ALL GAYS ARE IN THIS TOGETHER" and I will say bull fucking shit. Gay white men still benefit the privileges of being white (yes I said it, and I don't give a damn), while gay black people well... look at where they are.So of course I will somewhat care that my fellow blacks are getting discriminated against by their "so called" fellow community(yeah that's funny), I mean come on, I am black. And I guess for them it's a double whammy, or dishearten that the buck of the GL community looks down upon them, just like their straight counterparts. On the flipside though, I have notice that the black community is becoming more open minded to their gay folks,so that's a good thing. Hopefully in the next few years the black community as a whole will get their shit together, and top giving each the side eye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpectatingLoner View Post
    Not at all what was being said, but thanks for attempting to sweep the topic under the rug and act as if it has no validity simply because it's uncomfortable for you.
    Hey, if Harke wants to jump in front of a moving train then why should we stop him?

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    The buck of the gay community:
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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    This load of crap brought to you by some dude who only wants to date white guys.

    Puh

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    I wanna be that one in the middle.
    Quote Originally Posted by Telstra View Post
    I can hear this voice loudly.
    Do you hear a lot of voices in your head loudly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    I am so glad you mention my name,sweetie. What I think I have already posted, but let me just say this. Race comes first in America, sexuality comes second. Now all you guys can say "NNNNNOOOOO THAT NOT TRUE.ALL GAYS ARE IN THIS TOGETHER" and I will say bull fucking shit. Gay white men still benefit the privileges of being white (yes I said it, and I don't give a damn), while gay black people well... look at where they are.So of course I will somewhat care that my fellow blacks are getting discriminated against by their "so called" fellow community(yeah that's funny), I mean come on, I am black. And I guess for them it's a double whammy, or dishearten that the buck of the GL community looks down upon them, just like their straight counterparts. On the flipside though, I have notice that the black community is becoming more open minded to their gay folks,so that's a good thing. Hopefully in the next few years the black community as a whole will get their shit together, and stop giving each other the side eye.
    fixed it.

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    I find this statement from post 1 interesting and worth repeating

    "Problems plague Middle Eastern men. What is the reluctance to commincute with one another? Fear of being discovered by heterosexual members of the same race and alienation from the group or harsher punishment? Whenever we spoke to a Middle Eastern gay male, there was an air of secrecy about them. They would sometimes confide that they were scared of family, friends, or their community discovering their sexuality. This problem inhibits their ability to seek love or sex among their own race. This is also true of first and second generation Asian Americans. We did not really find this confession or sentiment among any other race to any notable extent."


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    Quote Originally Posted by RazorzEdge88 View Post
    I wanna be that one in the middle.

    Do you hear a lot of voices in your head loudly?
    Yes but only from rareboy.
    I skipped your voice


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard-up1 View Post
    Then you haven't met me and you are imposing your own attributions. I don't have to be credible to you -- I have to be me.

    I invited you to PM well-known members on here that I've PM'd with for some time. They can readily tell you that my language is my language in all settings.

    Sometimes I quip with short barbs, but I usually am long-winded, and speak just as I do now. I've never had any member before suggest my language is not my natural vocabulary.

    If you want to investigate your accusation, ask them. If you want to continue to attack me based on a criticism that you won't validate when you are able, then that says something in and of itself, now doesn't it?

    It's pretty convenient when you have moved from accusing me of using a false vocabulary in the thread to using it in my private messages with friends.

    If I'm using it all over the place, exactly how is it false to the real me?
    PM is not a good idea about this topic.
    I want people with clever language to battle it out. I think penayforay have the edge so far.


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    Talk about damned by faint praise.

    Telly, with your track record for misjudgment and mental laziness, I take it as a downright endorsement that you side with another man's words over mine. When we start agreeing on any thing moral or intellectual, I'll take that as a sign I'm in trouble.

    Thanks for the validation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard-up1 View Post
    Talk about damned by faint praise.

    Telly, with your track record for misjudgment and mental laziness, I take it as a downright endorsement that you side with another man's words over mine. When we start agreeing on any thing moral or intellectual, I'll take that as a sign I'm in trouble.

    Thanks for the validation!
    Well i like your "perfect" English but its too much me ...


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    Page 3 of this thread is a mess.

    And I'm glad Medusa is back from her ban to blow shit up in this thread.



    “This was an upsetting incident given the fact that Forest did nothing more than walk into the deli,” Jennifer Plante said. “Forest did not call the authorities at the request of the worker who was in fear of losing his employment.”
    Oop. Shopping While Black strikes again.

    And while we're at sharing random stories about racism, I heard that recent story in the news about an old white guy slapping a little black infant on a plane and telling his mother to "shut that Nigger baby up." The mother, who is white, is having none of that mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RazorzEdge88 View Post
    Hey, if Harke wants to jump in front of a moving train then why should we stop him?
    Awful.

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    We're so glad you weren't perma banned.
    I thought she was banned like only 2 days ago. It's actually been a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telstra View Post
    PM is not a good idea about this topic.
    I want people with clever language to battle it out. I think penayforay have the edge so far.
    Telly, hard-up was being accused of showing off with his language skills just to be arrogant in this thread. Hard up replied that he talks te same way in any thread or in any PM, and anyone was welcome to check it out. He was not saying this topic should be discussed by PM instead of in the threAd. Either I misunderstood your post, or you misunderstood hard-up's post.

    Anyway carry on everyone.
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    on medusa, i don't THINK she's a woman. i think she's either enchanted or holyeggroll and that whoever it is, they're just trying to play a troll game on us.

    and i'm a bit annoyed right now. i want to eat lunch upstairs in my room all alone. i DON'T want to eat it downstairs where i have to eat and hear my father trying to have bullshit conversations with me. my foods still in the microwave and my mom came home. she doesn't want me to eat upstairs ever since that rat problem we had last year in october. i really don't want to eat downstairs with my parents around especially my father. like i don't feel like listening to him telling me what the fuck is on tv when he knows i'm not watching it. i don't need him giving me play by play, telling me this person, talking to me about what happened 2 days ago and etc. not interested in him basically talking about himself or what he's thinking then at the same time, when i talk to him, he ignores me as if i don't exist. i don't like my father. he's a fucking narcissistic jackass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thatgirl View Post

    And while we're at sharing random stories about racism, I heard that recent story in the news about an old white guy slapping a little black infant on a plane and telling his mother to "shut that Nigger baby up." The mother, who is white, is having none of that mess.
    YES!

    I heard that. That poor child. I bet this was a complete and total shock to his White parents. His mother was about to cry as she talked about it. I hear that the man drew blood. Horrible, horrible. Im not a violent person by any means but I think that I would have had to get physical with this guy. How can someone just assault a toddler.

    I suppose that this level of racism could be surprising to anyone. In college, I was always quite surprised at how much my meer presence would evoke anger in people. Racism seems sp exhausting, you're always so angry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Actually, mine was the only constructive suggestion when hylas asked white he could not make more white friends. I suggested the clean cut look. Who else offered something constructive?
    I did point out that minority men tend to wear facial hair, but that is cultural, not racial.
    omg.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    Telly, hard-up was being accused of showing off with his language skills just to be arrogant in this thread. Hard up replied that he talks te same way in any thread or in any PM, and anyone was welcome to check it out. He was not saying this topic should be discussed by PM instead of in the threAd. Either I misunderstood your post, or you misunderstood hard-up's post.

    Anyway carry on everyone.
    No he "sort of" told me off to study better English in other threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Actually, mine was the only constructive suggestion when hylas asked white he could not make more white friends.
    wait i did what now?!?!?!?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatgirl View Post
    Page 3 of this thread is a mess.

    And I'm glad Medusa is back from her ban to blow shit up in this thread.





    Oop. Shopping While Black strikes again.

    And while we're at sharing random stories about racism, I heard that recent story in the news about an old white guy slapping a little black infant on a plane and telling his mother to "shut that Nigger baby up." The mother, who is white, is having none of that mess.
    LOL.Maybe. Btw, you have the best gifs.Love that dude in drag, and his fierceness.

    And if I was that mother on the plane, I would made have damn sure he would no longer going on slapping innocent babies all willy nilly. A large can of mace would do just fine. And maybe a taser.Bastard

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    Your experiment is interesting, but I don't think a sample size of five is really much to go on. Maybe if there were multiple accounts (with different photos and personality combinations) of each race/ethnicity...that would be something more to go by...

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