NEVER LISTEN TO A ONE SIDED STORY AND JUDGE.
Do you believe his story?
He awoke in the dead of night to bring in a fan from the balcony when he heard a noise.
"Filled with horror and fear" that someone was in the bathroom, he said he felt "very vulnerable" because he did not have his prosthetic legs on.
"I fired shots at the toilet door and shouted to Reeva to phone the police.
"Reeva was not responding. When I reached the bed, I realised that Reeva was not in bed.
"That is when it dawned on me that it could have been Reeva who was in the toilet."
After smashing the door with a cricket bat, Pistorius said "Reeva was slumped over but alive"
"I tried to render the assistance to Reeva that I could, but she died in my arms."
He said he kept a firearm, a 9 mm Parabellum, under his bed at night because he had been a "victim of violence and burglaries before."
He was not only acutely aware of intruders intending to commit violent crime but that "I have received death threats before."
NEVER LISTEN TO A ONE SIDED STORY AND JUDGE.
If only he had known these helpful tips.
In today’s fast-paced world, it seems like just about any guy can accidentally kill his girlfriend at virtually any time. Here are some easy strategies to avoid inadvertently murdering your significant other:
Be sure to avoid firing a gun in the general direction of your girlfriend, regardless of the situation.
Shy away from doing anything that may cause your girlfriend a massive amount of blood loss, such as beating her, stabbing her, or shooting her multiple times.
Consider performing a task that has a low risk of accidentally murdering your girlfriend, like giving her flowers, taking her to dinner, or letting her continue living and breathing.
Remain generally cognizant of the fact that three gunshots to the head and torso will, in most situations, fatally wound a person, and that this fact will, therefore, likely apply to your girlfriend as well.
If there is a locked door in your home and there is even a remote possibility that the person you’re currently dating is behind that door and could be immediately killed by the bullets you fire at the door, try not to fire a gun directly at that door.
In general, if there is something that you think might cause your girlfriend to stop living, don’t do that thing.
Oscar's brother, Carl, is also facing murder charges:
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/lawyer-says...085430967.htmlJOHANNESBURG - The brother of Olympic star Oscar Pistorius is facing a culpable homicide charge for a 2008 road death, compounding problems for the family after the double-amputee runner was charged with premeditated murder in the Feb. 14 shooting death of girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp.
Lawyer Kenny Oldwage said in a statement that Carl had been involved in a car accident "in which a woman motorcyclist sadly lost her life." He said that "there is no doubt that Carl is innocent and the charge will be challenged in court."
Wait they are just now going after him because of something which happened in 2008?
I guess some of the medieval devices would be just as horrible, such as the iron maiden or the rack (which I think was used more as a torture method, but which would cause death in the end).
BOSS: I'm sorry, but I'll have to lay you and Jack off. SUE: Can you just jack off? I feel like shit today.
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South African athlete Oscar Pistorius, accused of killing his girlfriend, may be "on the verge of suicide", a close family friend has told the BBC.
The sportsman was a "broken man" after rising legal costs forced him to sell his belongings, Mike Azzie said.
And before anyone starts bleating about waiting for the courts to hand down a verdict, he did do it. He picked up the gun. He pulled the trigger. He killed his girlfriend.
The only thing a court case will determine is whether he did it deliberatly or whether it was a tragic accident.
Last edited by LeicsDom; March 11th, 2013 at 05:30 AM.
Wait, so he's a broken man because he's worried about losing his belongings?
< his girlfriend, as a banana.
Yeah, sadly---he should have done this already.
Why do people do stupid things...
I bet Oscar curses the day he bought that gun.
It destroyed his life.
who gives a fuck. boo fucking hoo. he's acting like he's the victim when last i remember, his girlfriend is the one that got murdered by him.
one thing about the closet/you don't have to hurry/it will be bad tomorrow/so brother, don't you worry
I'm sure potential jurors won't have missed the story. I'm also sure that's the idea.
^We don't have jurors. A judge only here in .za.
He has to sell his belongings? I can't imagine the legal fees for a bail hearing exceeded his R8 million in property and 14 million in endorsements and 3.5 million in McLaren MP4-12C. That's 25 million rand, all told, or 2 million in UK sterling and 2.5 million in Amurrkan dollahs.
He won't be missed.
Last edited by EuroSoccer; March 11th, 2013 at 02:34 PM.
The bits of the story (hearsay?) don't add up. He knew she was in the house, they'd apparently had an argument, according to the neighbours. He's on the balcony at 4am, hears a noise, for some reason entirely fails to think it might be his girlfriend who is spending the night there. Rushes over to the bed, pulls out the gun from under it then allegedly opens fire into the bathroom, before realising it was her in there all along.
I'd have thought his first instinct would be to locate and protect her; how'd he not notice she's not in the bed when he went to get the gun from its hiding place? Also, under .za law, he's in shit for shooting anyway, even if there was an intruder - some guy barricades himself in your bathroom, he's no longer a threat and you are not allowed to shoot as a defensive measure. So it doesn't look good.
The cops have suggested neighbours have called in domestic incidents more than once; a previous girlfriend's mother alleges she feared for her safety since he has a temper and is prone to bouts of pissiness. So history is not on his side. Another girl has since said during their relationship previously he was the kindest, gentlest person she'd ever met, so...
Thanks for that. You would think if you hear a noise in your bathroom, the first thing anyone would do is to reach over and see if the person you went to bed with was still in bed before searching for a weapon.
Everyone wants to be heard. No one wants to listen.
"HEY, WHO'S THERE!" or even "honey…wake up…did you hear that…hey…where are you?"
I'll also be interested to know if he sleeps with his legs on, or if he had time to put them on, and whether the shots were fired from a seated position….
There are very many opportunities for his story to fall apart.
The 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution - a piece of paper protecting gun owners from "government tyranny" for over 200 years.
Having been on jury duty just today and listening to lawyers saying "innocent until proven guilty" all afternoon, I think I better go with that until more information and evidence is available. Agreed that a lot of his story doesn't add up but he does have a right to his day in court.
I wonder if the judge has seen this article yet
Also, police reports are that they found a bloody golf club in the house, and the victim had a severely damaged skull, which did not result from being shot.
Say whatever you want in his defense, but I don't think this is a case of someone basically sleep-walking and unconsciously killing someone...
The stuff I read said he was asleep, woke up to hear someone in the bathroom, picked up his gun and shot the 'intruder'. I hadn't read the report that he was already on the balcony.
Other reports say there was a bloodied cricket bat, while others said the bat was clean
For a lot of the detail I guess we will have to wait for the trial.
However, I think we can all agree that Oscar was the one who pulled the trigger. There is no doubt on that
I suspect that the outcome will be that it was a terrible mistake caused by his hot-headedness and instinct to act first and ask questions afterwards.
With his well known short fuse and hot temper there is a case for saying he should never have been able to legally hold a gun licence
^The bloody cricket bat was allegedly used to hammer the door down when he realised she might be in the bathroom. Apparently the room is not that big, and his mangling of the door to get in may have caused the additional damage to her skull if she had fallen against it after the shooting.
The accepted theory, at least the story I hear the most, is that he was awake and on the balcony already. Again, to my way of thinking, he should have had some idea of her whereabouts.
Apparently he sleeps legless, hence his paranoia about being more vulnerable than most and his use of weapons first, questions later. He was on the balcony au naturel*, by all accounts.Originally Posted by bankside
*on stumps, not nekkid,
trying to gain sympathy in the media. I hope no one falls for it
I read some articles that shatter the image of this man, he has beaten ex girlfriends, he's an alcoholic and he's extremely violent with women. I actually think this guy has a chance to get free because in South Africa women are so devalued there the misogyny and the hatred for women is very strong. Women are raped, and beaten, and murdered in South Africa at an alarming rate.
Worlds smallest violin
[QUOTE=MorrisseyX;8761857]Neighbours say this guy has had domestic problems before and the police have shown up at his house previous times. He seems to me he's a very violent man who hates women.
I would hazard a guess that he has a huge chip on his shoulder over having no legs/feet. Understandable but not an excuse
Last edited by LeicsDom; March 12th, 2013 at 05:18 PM.
Oscar Pistorius vomited in court as he heard a pathologist's testimony about the nature of his girlfriend's injuries after he shot her dead.
At last this arrogant piece of shit has finally found a conscience about what he has done.
All his life people have made excuses for him, first because of his disability and latterly because of his athletic abilities.
He has consistently pressured people into excusing his behaviour and, in some cases, take the blame for his behaviour.
Finally his sins are coming home to roost
He will go to prison. The only question is on what charge and for how long.
I haven't been following this case too closely. I don't know if he really thought an intruder was behind the door or if he knew it was his girlfriend, but he was definitely trying to kill whoever he thought was behind the door. Some time ago I thought I heard that his family had some money. Between money, his handicap and his fame he has probably been excused too many times in the past and hasn't had to account for his actions. Too bad, because now he will have to account for his actions.
I think his demeanour in court is brought on by the realisation that no-one (hopefully) is going to turn a blind eye
The guy is a thug, a bully and very trigger happy. he treats people and women with disdain. It is just a shame that his girlfriend had to pay with her life in order to make him face the consequences for his actions.
Btw I don't believe he murdered her intentionally. I think the outcome will be that he blasted the bathroom in anger after they had rowed.
for all this guy's hype of being a happy and normal amputee--clearly he has deep rooted anger issues---
Only his looks can save him. If the South African jury system is the same as that in the US, all it takes is one juror thinking that he's too beautiful to have done something so terrible as this.
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I don't know what I'm supposed to gain by knowing that he threw up in court.
Maybe I shouldn't take him to a horror movie when he(if he) gets out?
"Thereís death on the horizon,
and Iíll run to behold your sacrifice..."
I would hope that whoever shot dead Reeva Steenkamp would be brought to justice.
Oscar Pistorius had pleaded not guilty to the charge of killing Reeva Steenkamp. Would it be fairer to diss and curse Oscar Pistorius after he had been found guilty of the act? Does it not seem a bit early to do it right now? The comments above sound more like a kangaroo court than a discussion of the events in the trial.
^Enjoying a liquid dinner, are we?