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    Hillary and Barack - A Love Story

    who knew ?? really

    that these 2 would find each other

    all u need is an ocean, some sand and some bathing suits

    Peggy Noonan sums it grandly referencing the "interview" of the 2 lovebirds

    60 Minutes clearly has joined Team Obama

    Peggy says it much better than I ....... and she's spot on

    some pearls for the believers - with Peggy asking the questions instead of Steve "i have a bulge in my pants" Kroft

    Mr. President, does your foreign policy really come out of the White House, even out of its political office, and not the State Department? Has the department's ability to formulate policy and be a player in terms of the development of grand strategy been diminished? Her first year in office Mrs. Clinton looked like someone who'd been put on a plane and told to do interviews on "Good Morning Manila" about how she met Bill. What do you say?
    Mrs. Clinton, some think you held your tongue, made the best of a bad situation, worked the areas you could, moved forward on issues of particular concern like women's rights; that you dummied up on Benghazi, demolished your congressional critics in one masterly day of testimony, and now have been rewarded for your loyalty and discretion with a joint presidential interview that amounts to an anointment for 2016. Can you comment?"
    and Peggy sums it up nicely

    There is nothing wrong with being a declared liberal or conservative and conducting a sympathetic interview with a political figure who shares your views. Such interviews have their place and can be useful: a nondefensive, nonwary president elaborates on his thoughts, or commits accidental candor.But Mr. Kroft is a reporter whose job it is to be impartial and nonpartisan, and who works for a towering journalistic institution, "60 Minutes."
    People like him are supposed to approach political figures with no fear or favor.
    Their job is to grill. What are they afraid of?



    http://online.wsj.com/article/declarations.html

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    It is quite remarkable that two very intelligent and very liberal leaders in our country could so adroitly lead this nation back from the brink of so many failures at the end of the last administration. Some the fault of that admin and some the fault of multiple admins and our system. Thus restoring our economy and international image in such a short but incredible time. A love we all were thirsty for in a nation of the driest loins.
    Everyone can be great, because everyone can serve.
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    ^^^It's wonderful to have two smart, really good people who are rational and care about the country--much like Franklin and Eleanor many years ago-- to step forward and save this country from the crazies---history repeats itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nycguydowntown View Post
    ^^^It's wonderful to have two smart, really good people who are rational and care about the country--much like Franklin and Eleanor many years ago-- to step forward and save this country from the crazies---history repeats itself.
    I agree with you and JayHawk on this one. Absolutely. We have two people who truly care about America and it's future... and setting this country on the right course. Just 5 years ago this country was confronted with one of the worst recessions in decades which wiped out millions of jobs and savings... President Obama and Hillary dedicated themselves to this country, and the administration has led this country back to a stable economic footing with solid growth.

    All of this in spite of constant sabotage attempts by the opposing party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    It is quite remarkable that two very intelligent and very liberal leaders in our country could so adroitly lead this nation back from the brink of so many failures at the end of the last administration. Some the fault of that admin and some the fault of multiple admins and our system. Thus restoring our economy and international image in such a short but incredible time. A love we all were thirsty for in a nation of the driest loins.
    LOL

    thanks for making my case

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    Quote Originally Posted by nycguydowntown View Post
    ^^^It's wonderful to have two smart, really good people who are rational and care about the country--much like Franklin and Eleanor many years ago-- to step forward and save this country from the crazies---history repeats itself.
    all they needed was background music

    or perhaps a sponsor

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    Re: Hillary and Barack - A Love Story

    Yawn. More tired haiku trolling.

    Just when I was starting to get used to seeing full, actual paragraphs on CE & P.....

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    I like good background music as long as it isn't Ted Nugent And sponsors are what the USA is all about.

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    Re: Hillary and Barack - A Love Story

    Quote Originally Posted by FuryOfFirestorm View Post
    Yawn. More tired haiku trolling.

    Just when I was starting to get used to seeing full, actual paragraphs on CE & P.....
    awww

    you'll just have to make do i guess

    or not

    thought obama's embrace of hillary was pretty back stabbing shit to joe biden

    who frankly saved his ass a lot more than hills

    but i guess that's gratitude for ya

    not really the guy u want in the foxhole next to u

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    Re: Hillary and Barack - A Love Story

    Maybe I can recreate the past month's "no haiku troll" feeling by just using the ignore feature...

    ...but missing all the hilarious derp just wouldn't be worth it.

    On the other hand, I can just duplicate the experience by turning on my TV to Bill O'Reilly and my radio to Glen Beck and cranking them up to full volume.

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    Re: Hillary and Barack - A Love Story

    Quote Originally Posted by FuryOfFirestorm View Post
    Maybe I can recreate the past month's "no haiku troll" feeling by just using the ignore feature...

    ...but missing all the hilarious derp just wouldn't be worth it.

    On the other hand, I can just duplicate the experience by turning on my TV to Bill O'Reilly and my radio to Glen Beck and cranking them up to full volume.
    whatever - i'll put u on ignore first ok ?

    easier than trying to respond to your non responses and massive confusion

    and easier for the hard working moderators
    Last edited by chance1; February 11th, 2013 at 10:41 PM.

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    Re: Hillary and Barack - A Love Story

    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    whatever - i'll put u on ignore first ok ?

    easier than trying to respond to your non responses and massive confusion

    and easier for the hard working moderators
    If that sentence were any more ironic, Alanis Morrisette would have to write a song about it. She can call it "Moronic".

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    Re: Hillary and Barack - A Love Story

    Reminder: Peggy Noonan was one of St. Ronald's speech writers. I don't think she is well-known for her objectivity. Neither am I, but I don't work for the WSJ.


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    Re: Hillary and Barack - A Love Story

    ^ did u see the interview ?

    peggy is being kind
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    Re: Hillary and Barack - A Love Story

    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrobin View Post
    Reminder: Peggy Noonan was one of St. Ronald's speech writers. I don't think she is well-known for her objectivity. Neither am I, but I don't work for the WSJ.
    Remind me again why anyone should give a shit about what Peggy Noonan thinks about Hillary and Barack's business partnership? Are we going to ask the cast of Buckwild for their thoughts on US-China relations next? Maybe Time magazine will interview Honey Boo Boo and see if the effect of Greece's economic troubles on the European dollar makes her holler.

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    Re: Hillary and Barack - A Love Story

    for greater context into their relationship


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    Re: Hillary and Barack - A Love Story

    Yeah, yeah...Hillary and Barrack are in luurve!

    Does it ever bother you that you're wasting your life posting pointless and baseless drivel about people you don't know personally?

    You're like those 14 year old boys that spend hours on Justin Bieber message boards typing "JUSTIN IZ A HOMO!", or the idiots that infest YouTube spouting stupid, spiteful crap out of boredom and for attention.

    Cant wait to see your upcoming thread about the torrid secret love affair between Michelle Obama and the rotting corpse of William Howard Taft.

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    Re: Hillary and Barack - A Love Story

    clearly it was a terrific journalistic moment for 60 minutes

    to perform oral sex on the president and his SOS on ONE SHOW

    the role of news organizations first and foremost is to give good sloppy head to certain people

    tough questions ???

    and the silliness of giving peggy shit - when her piece is tame - is more proof that it wasn't read

    it was commented on - but not read

    clearly
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    No matter what the bulk of the peanut gallery says, glad you're back. I'll take haiku over smug know it all-ishness any day, thank you
    very much. I don't always agree with you , chance but it's a lot better here with you around than anyone gives you credit for. And if you are thought of as a right wing troll, well screw them ..you've shown a lot more genuineness, independence and nuance than I've seen from most anyone on the other side in the fingers alone you use to post!

    Getting to the topic...the crap out of that interview was blatantly disingenuous as I have ever seen. If I were Joe Biden, I'd be crtying myself to sleep at night over this newfound "lovefest"...truth is she used him and he used her, and they both accomplished their purposes in this tawdry political arrangement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sausy View Post
    No matter what the bulk of the peanut gallery says, glad you're back. I'll take haiku over smug know it all-ishness any day, thank you
    very much. I don't always agree with you , chance but it's a lot better here with you around than anyone gives you credit for. And if you are thought of as a right wing troll, well screw them ..you've shown a lot more genuineness, independence and nuance than I've seen from most anyone on the other side in the fingers alone you use to post!

    Getting to the topic...the crap out of that interview was blatantly disingenuous as I have ever seen. If I were Joe Biden, I'd be crtying myself to sleep at night over this newfound "lovefest"...truth is she used him and he used her, and they both accomplished their purposes in this tawdry political arrangement.
    Biden can only hope for a Hillary medical moment at this point - o/w he's the guy standing in the way of the first woman president

    he was sold down the river by Obama - who's all about Obama

    Biden for all his flaws is real - legit - speaks his mind

    as for peggy's piece - her POINT which the gallery did not read but condemned - was that of course hillary and president redistribution wanted a piece like that - but without 60m and steve kroft's willingness to kneel down it can't happen

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    Re: Hillary and Barack - A Love Story

    access hollywood would have been a better forum for this piece of shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sausy View Post
    No matter what the bulk of the peanut gallery says, glad you're back. I'll take haiku over smug know it all-ishness any day, thank you very much. I don't always agree with you , chance but it's a lot better here with you around than anyone gives you credit for. And if you are thought of as a right wing troll, well screw them ..you've shown a lot more genuineness, independence and nuance than I've seen from most anyone on the other side in the fingers alone you use to post!
    You're praising some dude that posts inane crap in pseudo-Haiku and serves up warmed over talking points from extremely biased right-wing sources. He's about as genuine and nuanced as a mahogany desk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    whatever - i'll put u on ignore first ok ?

    easier than trying to respond to your non responses and massive confusion

    and easier for the hard working moderators
    Well Chance...you'd know about the moderators having to work hard.....and God only knows what the second sentence even means.

    But to the topic. What's your problem with the relationship? Does it make you sad that two political rivals managed to work so well together in the first 4 year term? Is that it?

    And honestly, as much as I like Peggy Noonan, she would have been far more credible today if she'd used here talents over the last twelve years trying to help prevent the Republicans she works on behalf of turn into the intellectually and morally bankrupt party they have become.

    And to be honest....she is a much better writer than interviewer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    ^ did u see the interview ?

    peggy is being kind
    she talks like a delusional 50's housewife addicted to Valium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    clearly it was a terrific journalistic moment for 60 minutes

    to perform oral sex on the president and his SOS on ONE SHOW

    the role of news organizations first and foremost is to give good sloppy head to certain people

    tough questions ???

    and the silliness of giving peggy shit - when her piece is tame - is more proof that it wasn't read

    it was commented on - but not read

    clearly
    Boy you have really changed in your language and writing style over the past yr or so.
    I liked it better when you had a job and were bragging about all the different places you were traveling to, the nice weather, and the fancy upper tier restaurants you were eating in and what fabulous city you would be in the next day.

    Whats next the word cunt in one of the post regarding Pres. Obama or Hillary?

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    OH SNAP! Chance is really getting called out on JUB today!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuryOfFirestorm View Post
    OH SNAP! Chance is really getting called out on JUB today!
    On his return too. After I got banned I tried to change my demeanor... I can see some don't learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    access hollywood would have been a better forum for this piece of shit
    So what are you saying here? That Noonan's interview was such a piece of shit that only AH should have covered it? I'm confused.

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    Re: Hillary and Barack - A Love Story

    i think the thread sucks

    more than that really

    continue the giant jerk off by all means
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    Re: Hillary and Barack - A Love Story

    Hillary and Barry did what was best for both of them. Guess you could call that good politics.

    Sorry crazy Uncle Joe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Hillary and Barry did what was best for both of them. Guess you could call that good politics.

    Sorry crazy Uncle Joe.
    Some around here in this forum have argued...*wiping up the drink that I just shot threw my noes onto my keyboard*...that if not for Uncle Joe...Obama would have never had to publicly "come out" on his position regarding Gay Marriage, or why his DOJ wouldn't be defending DOMA.



    And Hillary, she was just married to the guy who signed DOMA into law.

    What a Love Story between Obama and Hillary!

    Poor Peggy, she couldn't really go after Steve Kroft as being a media whore with out coming across as one herself.

    I think that's called "credibility."
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    Quote Originally Posted by centexfarmer View Post
    i think the thread sucks

    more than that really

    continue the giant jerk off by all means
    is that a moderator or a poster comment?

    as for the comment surprised u weren't banned for it

    how does that work exactly ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by centexfarmer View Post
    Some around here in this forum have argued...*wiping up the drink that I just shot threw my noes onto my keyboard*...that if not for Uncle Joe...Obama would have never had to publicly "come out" on his position regarding Gay Marriage, or why his DOJ wouldn't be defending DOMA.



    And Hillary, she was just married to the guy who signed DOMA into law.

    What a Love Story between Obama and Hillary!

    Poor Peggy, she couldn't really go after Steve Kroft as being a media whore with out coming across as one herself.

    I think that's called "credibility."
    i think you're wildly off topic

    sort of a common practice

    but back to topic

    60 Minutes used to have a standard that they operated by

    Mike Wallace, Morley Safer - good journalists who had a POV but the story was the thing - and it was hard journalism

    Steve Kroft was starstruck it appears

    surprised Beyonce wasn't with them for the interview right ?

    she could've held Barack's cue cards

    LOL

    "bandwagon"

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    Quote Originally Posted by vulgar_newcomer View Post
    Boy you have really changed in your language and writing style over the past yr or so.
    I liked it better when you had a job and were bragging about all the different places you were traveling to, the nice weather, and the fancy upper tier restaurants you were eating in and what fabulous city you would be in the next day.

    Whats next the word cunt in one of the post regarding Pres. Obama or Hillary?
    i don't recall u ever sharing in hot topics when i posted "a day in the life" - so your "interest" is curious

    and your timing/content is off

    not a "fancy upper tier restaurant" guy save for big occassions

    and ps i don't use the term cunt

    so save for facts/timing/tone ur spot on

    the bandwagon lives

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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    is that a moderator or a poster comment?

    as for the comment surprised u weren't banned for it

    how does that work exactly ?
    None of the Mods (including myself) deleted it, so it's still a matter of public record on your part.

    I'd provide the source link to it, but then I'd be in violation of our CE&P posting guidelines, and since I helped write them, I couldn't possibly be a party to that.
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    ^ stop derailing the thread - don't u know the rules

    Hillary did nada as SOS btw - other than logging mucho miles

    not sure how that constitutes anything other than lots of little bottles of liquor and jet lag

    accomplishments to speak of ?

    i like her but obama's claim that she is the one of the best SOS ever is based on nothing but partisan drivel

    and 60 minutes never should have done the piece if it wasn't going to require answering some tough questions

    it's a NEWS program not entertainment

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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    it's a NEWS program not entertainment
    Wait!

    Hold your horses!

    You've been holding out on us!

    There's some secret out there that enables us to tell the difference?

    You'll truly be an asshole if you don't let us in on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    ^ stop derailing the thread - don't u know the rules

    Hillary did nada as SOS btw - other than logging mucho miles

    not sure how that constitutes anything other than lots of little bottles of liquor and jet lag

    accomplishments to speak of ?

    i like her but obama's claim that she is the one of the best SOS ever is based on nothing but partisan drivel

    and 60 minutes never should have done the piece if it wasn't going to require answering some tough questions

    it's a NEWS program not entertainment
    I'm supposing that without google searches you can sit and make a list from memory of all the huge accomplishments of former Secretaries of State? Since apparently Hillary fell so far short of your expectations.

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    Are you serious? Hilary was the first international face of America to tell the world "if you discriminate against LGBTs, you are not going to receive help from us". I know in closet NY world that's nada, but come on, Chance :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    I'm supposing that without google searches you can sit and make a list from memory of all the huge accomplishments of former Secretaries of State? Since apparently Hillary fell so far short of your expectations.
    i didn't make the claim she was great

    i think she did fine

    great? where's the evidence of great

    or r u an extraordinarily high grader ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    Are you serious? Hilary was the first international face of America to tell the world "if you discriminate against LGBTs, you are not going to receive help from us". I know in closet NY world that's nada, but come on, Chance :/
    r u seriously applying the gay litmus test to SOS ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    i didn't make the claim she was great

    i think she did fine

    great? where's the evidence of great

    or r u an extraordinarily high grader ?
    See:

    Hillary did nada as SOS btw - other than logging mucho miles

    not sure how that constitutes anything other than lots of little bottles of liquor and jet lag

    accomplishments to speak of ?
    You very much implied she did nothing or not enough in her role.

    What's your basis for making that innuendo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    See:



    You very much implied she did nothing or not enough in her role.

    What's your basis for making that innuendo?
    i can't think of any particular accomplishments

    none worthy of being described as the best ever

    your move or rather pres. obama's - not mine

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    Why shouldn't I apply the gay litmus test? It could quite literally save hundreds of thousands of lives in Africa. Calling that "nada" (which btw means "nothing", so you didn't even imply it, you right out SAID it) is delusional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    Why shouldn't I apply the gay litmus test? It could quite literally save hundreds of thousands of lives in Africa. Calling that "nada" (which btw means "nothing", so you didn't even imply it, you right out SAID it) is delusional.
    keep twisting - just don't get dizzy

    your point is that she's saving hundreds of thousands of lives in africa ?

    please show me

    and i didn't say "it" was nada

    so don't be so sloppy ok ?

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    Sloppy can be sexy. Regardless, "it" is part of THEM - her accomplishments as SoS. And I can't show you unkilled people O.o But even Uganda's delaying of the Kill the Gays Bill is a result of the the US and UN international attitude toward discriminating LGBTs, which she has contributed greatly for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    i can't think of any particular accomplishments

    none worthy of being described as the best ever

    your move or rather pres. obama's - not mine
    Which is why I said I'm forced to wonder if you can remember any particular achievements by any Secretaries of States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    Sloppy can be sexy. Regardless, "it" is part of THEM - her accomplishments as SoS. And I can't show you unkilled people O.o But even Uganda's delaying of the Kill the Gays Bill is a result of the the US and UN international attitude toward discriminating LGBTs, which she has contributed greatly for.
    i don't care for sloppy head - slurping isn't sexy

    you said she's saving hundreds of thousands of lives - that's pretty impressive - i was taken aback

    but it's hyperbole ?

    need more evidence

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    Peggy and Chance1 - A Love Story

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    Peggy and Chance1 - A Love Story
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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    i don't care for sloppy head - slurping isn't sexy

    you said she's saving hundreds of thousands of lives - that's pretty impressive - i was taken aback

    but it's hyperbole ?

    need more evidence
    Considering the gay witch-hunts that go on in Africa, I would say "hundreds of thousand" (and I said "it could", not "she has") isn't a bad estimation. No more evidence is needed than the stance the US has taken in international politics through her.
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