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    Benedict Resigns

    The German Shepherd is stepping aside. First time in over 600 years.

    Good for him.



    So shall we throw him a party?

    My fear is that the conclave will elect some ultra conservative African.

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    Good riddance. I did like what he said about unregulated capitalism, though, comparing it to criminal activity and terrorism.
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    In the Hot Topics forum, I pointed to the Prophecy of St Malachy that the next will be the last. I don't believe it of course, but it probably will get some attention in the media. Here is Wikipediahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    In the Hot Topics forum, I pointed to the Prophecy of St Malachy that the next will be the last. I don't believe it of course, but it probably will get some attention in the media. Here is Wikipediahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes
    The last pope or the last prediction?

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    At the risk of repeating myself:


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    Meh, whatever. He can rot and be forgotten for all I care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrobin View Post
    The last pope or the last prediction?
    Last Pope, then the end of the world.

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    I'm glad to see him go. Benedict was a bad egg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JockBoy87 View Post
    They're all bad eggs.

    The popes can't see two feet in front of them. All their abuse will be the eventual end of the Catholic Church, or at least its dominance in Christendom.
    Heres hoping

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    Quote Originally Posted by JockBoy87 View Post
    They're all bad eggs.

    The popes can't see two feet in front of them. All their abuse will be the eventual end of the Catholic Church, or at least its dominance in Christendom.
    Well, now he can retire, buy a motor home and drive around on extended hollandaise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    I'm glad to see him go. Benedict was a bad egg.
    LOL, good one. Rather more like a rotten egg

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    Re: Benedict Resigns

    I wonder why he finally cracked.

    His message says "physical and mental" decline. Maybe dementia? And he doesn't trust the other cardinals to be his puppet masters in his dotage as he was with John Paul ii. My guy figures someone found the video tape.

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    Did he just cite age as the only reason? I have to wonder how they've managed either profoundly advanced age or poor health in former popes, given how rare this kind of a retirement is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    My fear is that the conclave will elect some ultra conservative African.
    Even more conservative? Not that it would surprise me ...

    Let the conspiracy theories begin. Especially in connection with the recent leaks, there have been many rumors already that he has many enemies in the vatican.

    But in reality, it's all just chancellor Merkel's liability. No really, she said that she placed her "vollstes Vertrauen" (full trust) in him. 73% of the people about whom she said that, resigned within an average of 33 days. I am not kidding - this statistic is real.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loki81 View Post
    actually did some research, and discovered that there's no provision that allows a Pope to be removed from office other than death or a willing resignation... so it would totally make sense if he starting to suffer from dementia or was diagnosed with Alzheimer's and wanted to resign while he's still mentally capable of doing so.
    I agree it makes sense, I'm just surprised that this sort of resignation has been so completely rare, what happens in the case of infirm mind setting in before a Pope resigns, do people "act in his stead" or?

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    Quote Originally Posted by loki81 View Post
    actually did some research, and discovered that there's no provision that allows a Pope to be removed from office other than death or a willing resignation... so it would totally make sense if he starting to suffer from dementia or was diagnosed with Alzheimer's and wanted to resign while he's still mentally capable of doing so.
    It doesn't really matter like many totalitarians, he is only a figure head and it is the college of cardinals that pull all the strings. He must have pissed off a bunch of the cardinals to have been forced to resign, you could say "age" as a reason but heck, this not a position that you resign from. You die on the throne like a king/queen.

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    Re: Benedict Resigns

    Only in recent years have Bishops and Cardinals been required to resign their offices for age. Under Pope John Paul II, I think. The easiest answer is that the Pope has decided that he should do what he requires his subordinates to do.

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    Re: Benedict Resigns

    There are many controversies about this pontificate. There are many hidden scandals.

    Italian Catholics do not really like this pope; Some yes, others no. Many people are far from the Pope, the church. It 'a conservative pope.

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    When will they address the issue of abuse by priest?

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    According to NBC's (intelligent hunk) Richard Engel, he's retiring to a convent run by cloistered nuns. In the Vatican. Probably right next door to retired Cardinal Law of Boston. No chance of anyone being called to account, since I doubt anyone would ever be extradited for obstruction of justice , which is what they've all done. Retired Cardinal Mahoney of LA will no doubt be leaving for Rome toot sweet!

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    Re: Benedict Resigns

    Where do I apply for his job? Nice house, robes and cool car.

    Do I have to be Catholic to be pope? Suppose it would help.

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    Re: Benedict Resigns

    So since the last Pope retired 600 years ago, how old is this one? 680?

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    He is going to a monastery in a forest..... I suppose the joke Does a Pope shit in the woods will have lost some of its bite.....

    knuck knuck

    anyways....

    You have to be a grand poo bah of many secret and magical underwear parties before you may be considered for Pope? Or is that the Mormons.... I cannot keep these damn cults straight... anyone got a guide?
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    I couldn't believe before I went to bed last night the explosion on my Associated Press map the number of Pope stories that popped up with his announcement. Does the Catholic Church still hold this much sway in the American news media where 5-6 of the top stories are about the Pope's resignation, the Pope's legacy, the Pope's life, what people think of the Pope, and future Popes? I mean, it was ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loki81 View Post
    technically, any Catholic male who's received confirmation can become Pope... the youngest Pope in history was 11 (funnily enough, another Pope Benedict, Benedict IX... he was appointed to the papacy through family connections (he was the nephew of the Pope)... he ended his tenure by selling the papacy to his godfather )

    in practice, a non-Cardinal hasn't been elected to the papacy in over 700 years.
    yeah but if they elected a boy what would they do to him in office.... O_o

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    The German Shepherd is stepping aside. First time in over 600 years.

    Good for him.



    So shall we throw him a party?

    My fear is that the conclave will elect some ultra conservative African.
    Quote Originally Posted by palemale View Post
    Good riddance. I did like what he said about unregulated capitalism, though, comparing it to criminal activity and terrorism.
    I'm rooting for the Ghanan Peter Kodwo Appiah Cardinal Turkson. He's a big one behind the current pope's economic positions -- he's written some good stuff on capitalism and international regulation and accountability of financial institutions. He's considered moderate to progressive yet is well-respected among the College of Cardinals. He's got a good shot at it, too, since the College is well aware that the rabid 'conservatism' of Ratzinger has turned many youth from the Roman Church. If the pattern holds, they'll go for a conciliator this time. The pattern of appointments setting him in various agencies in Rome suggests he was being groomed as a possibility, which helps make me hopeful.

    There's a strong chance the selection won't be a European, for a number of reasons. There aren't really any good choices from Latin America, so that contingent will swing into place behind any non-European candidate. The question is who the Africans will prefer, since there aren't any real Asian choices either. The Italian block knows they're not going to get a shot at this, and they're not too fond of other European options, so it's likely that the backroom dealings will focus on which African candidate is going to offend the fewest.

    Turkson's worst black mark is what I see as a wishy-washy stand on homosexuality, where he tries to make everyone happy and succeeds in sounding like a wimp.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by JockBoy87 View Post
    It's already happening. The Church is especially losing Hispanics quickly to Protestantism and irreligion. If the Church opposes immigration reform because of gay rights, then the Church will lose its influence even faster in the United States.
    hmmm

    wishful thinking ?

    your catholic hating is pathetic btw

    but the "bandwagon" approach here allows it to go

    http://www.khou.com/news/texas-news/190770991.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by andysayshi View Post
    At the risk of repeating myself:

    Ahh, but it is worth repeating. Ratzinger is a profoundly unpleasant man.

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    I can already see that sharing the fallacy poster was a mistake, lmao.

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    The growth of the Hispanic population will actually be a boon for the Catholic Church

    when they don't deserve it

    it's their HOPE for the future - not the "problem"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Believe18 View Post
    I couldn't believe before I went to bed last night the explosion on my Associated Press map the number of Pope stories that popped up with his announcement. Does the Catholic Church still hold this much sway in the American news media where 5-6 of the top stories are about the Pope's resignation, the Pope's legacy, the Pope's life, what people think of the Pope, and future Popes? I mean, it was ridiculous.
    Like it or not, it is the largest and oldest organization in the world, and the largest in the US. The only thing close is China which is not an organization in the same sense of the word.
    And, in some respects, the Pope is the most powerful man in the world. His prohibition of birth control does more damage than any law or institutional rule I can think of. He is the reason millions come into the US to escape the failures of their countries.
    Conversely, he could, with a pen stroke do great things to help the environment, if he were inclined.
    But of course part of it is just the need of the media for a big story at any given time. I am sure they will give as much attention to the death of Queen Elizabeth, with far less reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    hmmm

    wishful thinking ?

    your catholic hating is pathetic btw

    but the "bandwagon" approach here allows it to go

    http://www.khou.com/news/texas-news/190770991.html
    Who says it is Catholic hating?

    Once again...someone doesn't agree with your binary view of the world and suddenly they are pathetic.

    And you're back one day and already railing about the 'bandwagon'.

    I can't think this is good for your health. Lighten up a little and let us enjoy having you around a little longer this time.

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    Sorry.

    Not even close to being oldest organization in the world. Excluding China.

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    lighting have struck the Vatican twice. A sign from God?

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    Yeah, God doesn't want him to go...
    That we are capable only of being what we are, remains our unforgivable sin.
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    Re: Benedict Resigns

    Or God wants him to hurry out..

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    Haha, yeah, I was considering that option when posting mine, but figured you'd bring it up
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    God's saying, "I told you once... I told you twice! Next time I hit YOU!!! So get your ass out, already!"

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    There is that one Brazilian cardinal I believe that is a candidate for it...
    He hasn't even been a bishop long, let alone a Cardinal. I think hopes there are just wishful thinking.
    Last edited by Kulindahr; February 12th, 2013 at 01:42 PM.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    The growth of the Hispanic population will actually be a boon for the Catholic Church

    when they don't deserve it

    it's their HOPE for the future - not the "problem"
    It's both. Immigrants to the US are swelling the ranks of the "faithful", but at the same time large numbers of Hispanics who were Roman Catholic in their own country choose something else here.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Whatever happens, you can be sure this story will go on for months on the news until they get a new pope installed. I'm sick of hearing about it already.

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    ^Should have a new pope with that new pope smell by Easter.

    And then it will be back to the same old same old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JockBoy87 View Post
    There is no universal authority in Judaism today, although the Rabbinate in individual countries may be considered by some respects to be the oldest organization, with origins in the Sanhedrin of the 6th century BCE.
    Also arguably the Zoroastrians and some Hindu organizations which claim a pre-christian religion.

    The actual technical fallacy is that what the poster meant to say was it is arguably the oldest religious organization in continuous existence to the present day. Not that it was the oldest organization in the world.

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    I just wanna be there when the new Pope opens the box with the document inside detailing the exact nature of the antichrist.

    Cookie if anyone gets the reference.

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    Typical haters are still hating.

    NOTE TO UNINFORMED HATERS: if you don't believe in God ... you can't believe in hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Typical haters are still hating.

    NOTE TO UNINFORMED HATERS: if you don't believe in God ... you can't believe in hell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Typical haters are still hating.

    NOTE TO UNINFORMED HATERS: if you don't believe in God ... you can't believe in hell.
    This post jumps from "I don't really care about the Pope" to assuming "I hate religion" and then "I don't believe in God."

    Neither of the following two assumptions are reasonable from the first position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    You shatter my world. And why not hate on that abominable monster? You got something against it?
    Glad I shatter your world.

    Glass houses fall every day.

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    At the risk of repeating myself:

    That is soooooo cool. Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JockBoy87 View Post
    They're all bad eggs.

    The popes can't see two feet in front of them. All their abuse will be the eventual end of the Catholic Church, or at least its dominance in Christendom.
    It's those ruby slippers they wear.
    BEWARE! Harassing the Indian may result in sudden and severe hair loss.

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