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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard-up1 View Post
    You could at least say "bless you" considering the circumstances. "Health!" indeed.
    …so…"catholic yarmulke" isn't right either?
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard-up1 View Post
    Tell it to God then, Pete, and stop ragging on Loki.

    What's it to you to have to be an ass to him when he's only setting the record straight?

    If you guys acting like kids smoking behind the gym would stop throwing out bogus statements, he wouldn't be having to post the truth about practice and dogma JUBBERS look just plain small when making up crap about presumed pedophilia and the like. No one is acting devotional or worshipful in the thread, so making up graffiti for the bathroom wall just comes off like a juvenile delinquent wannabe.

    Disbelief is one thing. Criticizing the Church is a valid standpoint. Just being bitchy and hateful to Loki tells more about you than it does the Pope or his dominion.
    where in my post was I bitchy to anyone but the pope? he's not God and my belief in God is the not topic here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FuryOfFirestorm View Post
    Don't you see the resemblance?

    What a cheap shot.

    Anyone can mock the physical appearance of another person.

    One could post a picture of The Dalai Lama beside some unflattering comparison.

    There is plenty legitimate to criticize about the Vatican or its leader, but physical appearance slams just demean the source.

    How terribly small. Making fun of a powerful leader's appearance is no difference than making fun of a playmate on the playground. It's wrong in all circumstances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PreTTy PeTe View Post
    where in my post was I bitchy to anyone but the pope?
    Even if you had addressed the Pope, it is unlikely he's logged on. But you didn't. You addressed Loki by effect.

    You went out of your way to rebut Loki's post with a statement posted as if it were a counterargument or rebuttal. All Loki did was to post that the Roman Catholic Church doesn't claim that the Divine directly selects the Pope (e.g., the selection of King Saul via Urim and Thumin in the Old Testament.)

    As no one in the thread claimed that Popes are selected by the Divine, charging in to imply that Loki did was just snide. He wasn't defending the papacy, nor Pope Benedict's reign, only explaining the process.

    You rant so much on the boards that you don't even realize when you are going after someone belligerently. Citing another member's post and then tagging on a rant or snide gripe certainly qualifies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard-up1 View Post
    What a cheap shot. . . .
    Oh, please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard-up1 View Post
    You went out of your way to rebut Loki's post with a statement posted as if it were a counterargument or rebuttal. All Loki did was to post that the Roman Catholic Church doesn't claim that the Divine directly selects the Pope (e.g., the selection of King Saul via Urim and Thumin in the Old Testament.)

    As no one in the thread claimed that Popes are selected by the Divine, charging in to imply that Loki did was just snide. He wasn't defending the papacy, nor Pope Benedict's reign, only explaining the process.

    You rant so much on the boards that you don't even realize when you are going after someone belligerently. Citing another member's post and then tagging on a rant or snide gripe certainly qualifies.
    thanks and grow a thick skin this is the Internet.

    I have nothing against Loki and I didn't say anything that was against him.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard-up1 View Post
    What a cheap shot.

    Anyone can mock the physical appearance of another person.

    One could post a picture of The Dalai Lama beside some unflattering comparison.

    There is plenty legitimate to criticize about the Vatican or its leader, but physical appearance slams just demean the source.

    How terribly small. Making fun of a powerful leader's appearance is no difference than making fun of a playmate on the playground. It's wrong in all circumstances.
    Dude, the Pope doesn't need a white knight to save him. Even in his "fragile" physical state, I'm sure he'll be able to endure an internet meme.

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    I'm surprised at so many people of Catholic heritage being so hateful to their leader.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard-up1 View Post
    …Ironically for the church that elevated Mary to the #1 position…
    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    …This was over 30 years ago… but I clearly remember her praying to Mary and not to God…
    I know a Sister in the Order of Perpetual Indulgence who says the veneration of Mary began in the 1950s and refers to Pope Pius' reign as the 'Marian years'.

    He also said that Mary was useful in the anti-Communist propaganda of that time. Mary was 'Our Lady of Fátima' and that her 'three secrets of Fátima' predicted the Second Great War and the victorious return of Christianity to pagan Russia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keeland View Post
    Oh, please.
    Sure, go ahead. Defend base behavior.

    I don't see your pic posted for people to mock at will.

    It's easy to approve the disrespect for the Pope if you have a disrespectful bias anyway, but physical mockery is just base. There's no cavalier way to treat it. No matter what his offenses, his face is not a legitimate criticism of the man.

    If it were political satire, there'd be some legitimate point to make to lampoon.

    As it is, it's just low-hanging fruit since he is an old man.

    Cheap shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuryOfFirestorm View Post
    Dude, the Pope doesn't need a white knight to save him. Even in his "fragile" physical state, I'm sure he'll be able to endure an internet meme.
    And I don't need to be any white knight for an institution I don't believe in, nor a leader whom I am not led by.

    What is it to the Pope? Nothing.

    All I'm talking about is simple human decency. When you justify denigrating another as sub-human, then you set the precedent, set the example, and in so doing, you make it fine to mock anyone's appearance, and it's not.

    It's just low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard-up1 View Post
    Sure, go ahead. Defend base behavior.

    I don't see your pic posted for people to mock at will.

    It's easy to approve the disrespect for the Pope if you have a disrespectful bias anyway, but physical mockery is just base. There's no cavalier way to treat it. No matter what his offenses, his face is not a legitimate criticism of the man.

    If it were political satire, there'd be some legitimate point to make to lampoon.

    As it is, it's just low-hanging fruit since he is an old man.

    Cheap shot.
    Keeland isn't a public figure who helped cover-up of the molestation of thousands of children, spouts anti-gay dogma and thwarted the fight against AIDS in Africa by telling them not to use condoms, now is he?

    Just because he's an old man in a pointy hat doesn't make him immune to criticism or lampooning, Hardy dear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuryOfFirestorm View Post
    Keeland isn't a public figure who helped cover-up of the molestation of thousands of children, spouts anti-gay dogma and thwarted the fight against AIDS in Africa by telling them not to use condoms, now is he?

    Just because he's an old man in a pointy hat doesn't make him immune to criticism or lampooning, Hardy dear.
    No, his policies are legitimate to attack.

    And, you can reduce him to an evil caricature legitimately, I suppose, since you are able to a) be completely unaware of his policies other than a couple of sound bites from the news, and b) already believe that the Church is inherently vacant and only deserves to be despised. In that case, yes, you do believe he is only evil and deserves the abuse.

    But, it comes down to being the victim of the same judgment, doesn't it? Anyone can select whatever he finds deficient in you, and boom -- you become reduced to just whatever that is. You have no right to be assessed fairly, as a total person.

    When we demonize for any reason, we reduce ourselves at the same time, as we endorse the practice of dehumanization.

    It becomes easy to despise all authority. And, how much easier it is to judge than to serve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard-up1 View Post
    No, his policies are legitimate to attack.

    And, you can reduce him to an evil caricature legitimately, I suppose, since you are able to a) be completely unaware of his policies other than a couple of sound bites from the news, and b) already believe that the Church is inherently vacant and only deserves to be despised. In that case, yes, you do believe he is only evil and deserves the abuse.

    But, it comes down to being the victim of the same judgment, doesn't it? Anyone can select whatever he finds deficient in you, and boom -- you become reduced to just whatever that is. You have no right to be assessed fairly, as a total person.

    When we demonize for any reason, we reduce ourselves at the same time, as we endorse the practice of dehumanization.

    It becomes easy to despise all authority. And, how much easier it is to judge than to serve.
    I never mentioned the Church at all Hard-up. I may be an atheist, but I do respect other's religions. I just have no respect for that decrepit asshole. He willingly was party to the cover-up of thousands of children being robbed of their innocence and well-being, and the best he can say basically is, "OOPS! My bad!"., instead of actually kicking out every priest that was involved in the molestations and cover-up. Then he has the nerve to paint gays as lesser-thans unworthy of getting married.

    Fuck him, fuck his stupid little bulletproof car, and fuck his pointy hat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard-up1 View Post
    No matter what his offenses, his face is not a legitimate criticism of the man.
    Cheap shot.
    That SOB has caused untold misery, heartache and grief among gays — those who haven't killed themselves — and families of gays. He and his predecessors are directly responsible for shuffling hundreds — hundreds if not thousands — of priestly pedophiles from parish to parish and country to country in so many sordid-crime coverups against adults and children they are impossible to count. World-wide. Over decades, more likely centuries.

    His corporation, his executive and too many of his lowly, loving workers are rotten to the core, not only in the morality of his army of psychopaths but in their lust for gold. If his was a business not protected by his phoney god, his tarted-up phoney goddess, the threat of the flames of hell and his position that allows him to order his god to forgive all his and his corporation's sins, he'd be rotting in prison at the very least.

    He condemned thousands — tens of thousands — to lingering painful deaths, thanks to his immoral and medieval stand against the use of condoms, leaving even more children in untold misery — orphaned, abandoned, destitute, starving, utterly without hope. He even stated that the use of condoms increases HIV infections.

    There is no such thing as a cheap shot against god's Rottweiler. You might as well rail against a cheap shot knocking Hitler.
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    Yet none of that has any relevance whatsoever to his physical appearance. Your criticism of his character and behaviour is justified, but mockery of his appearance is nothing other than vapid pettiness; no matter what kind of spin you try to put on it.

    "U r ugly LOL!" is not a valid criticism, no matter the target (and yes, that includes Hitler). Leave that insipid nonsense to the children who spend their time shouting over Xbox Live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders123 View Post
    Yet none of that has any relevance whatsoever to his physical appearance. Your criticism of his character and behaviour is justified, but mockery of his appearance is nothing other than vapid pettiness; no matter what kind of spin you try to put on it.

    "U r ugly LOL!" is not a valid criticism, no matter the target (and yes, that includes Hitler). Leave that insipid nonsense to the children who spend their time shouting over Xbox Live.
    Yes it's pettiness. But guess what? I don't really care. I reserve respect for people that earned it. The only way he'll get my respect is if he fires each and every priest involved in the molestations and its cover-up.

    And considering both Ratzinger and Palpatine are both old, decrepit geezers that wear robes and lead a religion/empire, it's a valid comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard-up1 View Post
    No, his policies are legitimate to attack.

    And, you can reduce him to an evil caricature legitimately, I suppose, since you are able to a) be completely unaware of his policies other than a couple of sound bites from the news, and b) already believe that the Church is inherently vacant and only deserves to be despised. In that case, yes, you do believe he is only evil and deserves the abuse.

    But, it comes down to being the victim of the same judgment, doesn't it? Anyone can select whatever he finds deficient in you, and boom -- you become reduced to just whatever that is. You have no right to be assessed fairly, as a total person.

    When we demonize for any reason, we reduce ourselves at the same time, as we endorse the practice of dehumanization.

    It becomes easy to despise all authority. And, how much easier it is to judge than to serve.
    Even though we are in some disagreement on the issues, always respected your civility and humanity as opposed to the indignant self righteous screechings of the ideological zealots. There's plenty of what Pope Benedict did I have strong disagreement with...far too conservative for me. But the entirety of his life, and his basic humanity, also counts... seeing the frail shell he is becoming unnerved me, all of us are mortal and whther weak or powerful we cannot stop the cruel tracks of time from getting to us finally. Thank you for your posts of great humanity and thoughtful perspective. It's easy to be angry, bitter, hateful....but people can rise above their baser emotions.
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    Yes, let's all feel sorry for the guy that enabled child molesters to keep exploiting young children by moving them around like chess pieces and pressuring victims to keep quiet instead of reporting it to the police.

    While we're at it, let's cry for Chris Brown because he lost the Grammy to Frank Ocean and weep bitter tears for Mitt Romney because he lost the election.

    As for "self-righteous screechings": as a victim of childhood sexual abuse, I have every right to call that bastard out on his bullshit. How dare anyone defend him while condemning his critics. I may not be perfect, but i've never participated in anything even 1/100th as heinous as that vile miscreant. If anyone is to be declared self-righteous, it's that piece of living excrement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loki81 View Post
    John Paul II fought the Nazis in Poland and, as far as I know, held the same anti-gay viewpoints.

    I'd say it's more of a generational thing and the Church just being anti-gay in general, not a reflection of the time he was forced to spend drafted into the Germany military.
    Bottom line....his attitude as an adult with choices is similar to the attitude the Nazis held...that gay people are a threat to humanity. I understand that people who were not part of the Nazi Youth also hold the same opinion.....

    ...but if you WERE part of the Nazi Youth for whatever reason...and you STILL hold the opinion knowing what happened to gay people in Nazi Germany...then you most certinly ARE responsible for your words and actions....maybe moreso than the garden variety bigot because if you know the atrocities first hand and still perpetuate that crap...you are truly evil.

    Would anyone be defending the creep if he said Jews were a threat to humanity?

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    The Dalai Lama is just another hypocritical emissary of evil and anit-humanity under the guise of religion ... just like the Pope.
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    It is obvious that it is necessary to be able to find a target for all the great anger and venom that is carried within each of you.

    And the underlying point is how horrible religion itself is, as it often is in Hot Topics. And much is made about the need to do something, but nothing about what is being done. If the Catholic church is but one big chain of Pedophiles Inc. drive-throughs, I'm guessing you're out there actively doing something about it other than pissing around in a message board. But, you're not, are you? This is pretty much it, isn't it? You're really not out there trying to make the world any better -- you're just sitting and stewing and cursing the world that has never been, like Miniver Cheevy, child of scorn.

    No one in the entire thread praised the outgoing pontiff, yet you made it your mission to throw acid about like some spurned Russian ballet star.

    And you made excuses like "so what?" and "grow a thicker skin," which would might have some bearing if another JUBBER had been the object of the snipes, but there wasn't. It's a bit like arguing that you like kicking your dog, so what's it to anyone else.

    Maybe it's easier to reserve respect, affection, and admiration for pets when human beings prove to be complex creatures that require complex consideration rather than reductionist absolutes; we impute evil to the one and virtue to the other, both without a true basis. Maybe it's easier to rave and rant and spew than it is to engage a world we find unreasonable. Maybe it's easier to be vandals than it is to be builders.

    In the end, everyone is hypocrite and everyone self-righteous to one degree or another. None of us are the ideal. To the degree we forgive ourselves and not another, we become our own little god in our own little circle of self-serving rationalization. At least religion gets many of its adherents beyond that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders123 View Post
    Yet none of that has any relevance whatsoever to his physical appearance. Your criticism of his character and behaviour is justified, but mockery of his appearance is nothing other than vapid pettiness; no matter what kind of spin you try to put on it.

    "U r ugly LOL!" is not a valid criticism, no matter the target (and yes, that includes Hitler). Leave that insipid nonsense to the children who spend their time shouting over Xbox Live.
    I must disagree. It is really the art of caricature on display in the Palpatene image. See "Spitting Image" or any of the great editorial cartoonists of the last 2 centuries.
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    As "Cardinal Ratzenberger" the Pope helped priests who raped hundreds of children each escape prosecution and then had the gall to condemn all gays and lesbians as sinners. He will never pay for his sins against innocent children, but let's not be silent about them. Please, let's not be silent about the innocents his Priests have destroyed. Let's stop calling these crimes "molestation". CHILD RAPE is their crime!
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    Just to deal with a point raised in a comment that deserves airing here, it is important to remember that Palpatine is not a figure of great age; his face is meant to show his sins. You can see the life he lived and the cruelty he meted. The hardness in his face is not due to chronology but character. Indeed he is still middle aged in the film.

    The point of that image is not that Ratzinger bears a superficial and laughable resemblance, but that he has the same debased character as our fictional villain, the Emperor. In comparing the Space Opera fiction to the Petrine Ministry fiction, it is a brilliant piece of satire.
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    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eastofeden View Post
    Bottom line....his attitude as an adult with choices is similar to the attitude the Nazis held...that gay people are a threat to humanity. I understand that people who were not part of the Nazi Youth also hold the same opinion.....

    ...but if you WERE part of the Nazi Youth for whatever reason...and you STILL hold the opinion knowing what happened to gay people in Nazi Germany...then you most certinly ARE responsible for your words and actions....maybe moreso than the garden variety bigot because if you know the atrocities first hand and still perpetuate that crap...you are truly evil.

    Would anyone be defending the creep if he said Jews were a threat to humanity?
    Remember, the abusers were gay, and most of the boys were not children but under age young men. The effect on the church has been devastating.

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    I don't want to say that the coverup was worse than the crime in this case, but it was certainly a lot more damning to the Church.

    I don't think they'd be having these issues if, when abuses were first reported, they turned the abuser over to local authorities instead of shuffling priests around and trying to sweep everything under the rug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Remember, the abusers were gay, and most of the boys were not children but under age young men. The effect on the church has been devastating.
    Still child abuse under the law. Maybe not canon "law" -a farcical definition of law if ever there was.

    Ultimately I see no merit in congratulating a rapist priest on being an ephebophile instead of purely a pedophile. I also don't see why we should call these men "gay."

    And the effect on the Catholic Church has been not nearly devestating enough for all the tears they have caused behind the veil of piety.
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    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    Just to deal with a point raised in a comment that deserves airing here, it is important to remember that Palpatine is not a figure of great age; his face is meant to show his sins. You can see the life he lived and the cruelty he meted. The hardness in his face is not due to chronology but character. Indeed he is still middle aged in the film.

    The point of that image is not that Ratzinger bears a superficial and laughable resemblance, but that he has the same debased character as our fictional villain, the Emperor. In comparing the Space Opera fiction to the Petrine Ministry fiction, it is a brilliant piece of satire.
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    Remember, the abusers were gay, and most of the boys were not children but under age young men. The effect on the church has been devastating.
    I call this BS. Most of the abused were boys of very young ages. I'd believe the abusers were gay if it weren't for the fact that the priests had way way way easier access to boys than girls. Up until the last decade, most people were more relaxed for their boys and more suspicious for their girls.

    Studies have consistently shown that traits that pedophiles go after more resemble those you'd find in women than men. Hairless body, high pitch voice, innocence, young looking, skinny, etc. are all traits that you find both in kids and women. Us guys have hairy chests, deep voices, etc., exactly all the traits that do not attract pedophiles.

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    Let's not get into a debate of whether pedophiles are gay or straight considering they're fuckin' PEDOPHILES. Yeesh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by animalius View Post
    I call this BS. Most of the abused were boys of very young ages. I'd believe the abusers were gay if it weren't for the fact that the priests had way way way easier access to boys than girls. Up until the last decade, most people were more relaxed for their boys and more suspicious for their girls.

    Studies have consistently shown that traits that pedophiles go after more resemble those you'd find in women than men. Hairless body, high pitch voice, innocence, young looking, skinny, etc. are all traits that you find both in kids and women. Us guys have hairy chests, deep voices, etc., exactly all the traits that do not attract pedophiles.
    I'm calling BS on this as well. Unless you can point to me a study that says specifically, these traits are sought after because of their relation to women as well as children. Pedophiles target children for the fact that they are children, they are prepubescent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Remember, the abusers were gay, and most of the boys were not children but under age young men. The effect on the church has been devastating.
    I haven't even mentioned that. I was referring to Gays in Nazi Germany...Pink Triangles in the Concentation Camps. I dont' need to go further than that because it is a problem I had the minute he said that Gays were a threat to humanity. I think his Nazi youth IS a problem.

    I do want to say...I do not think pedophiles are "gay" I think they are pedophiles. You certainly do not hear anyone saying that men or women who molest childen of the opposite sex are "straight"...or men or women who molest either sex are "bisexual".

    Molesting children (RAPE) is about power and control...NOT SEX!

    When people start referring to child molestors as straight and bisexual on a regular basis then I might accept that it is the norm to label them anything except pedophiles. I don't think the church understands this at all. You would think if they TRULY were sorry for what happened they would at least take the time to understand pedophiles and address them as such versus labeling them 'gay".

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    European media give these two cardinals a good chance to be the next Pope.
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    Oh for fucks sake: I am only condemning The Pope and any clergy that were complicit in his crimes. I am not condemning the Catholic religion or it's followers as a whole, much like criticizing President Obama is not condemning Democrats or the whole of America. The Pope is the head of a religion, not the religion in and of itself. Am I lying when I say that all the clergy involved in the molestations and the cover up need to excommunicated instead of just shuffled around like chess pieces? They are the cancer that is killing the religion, yet somehow I'M the bad guy here? Get your fucking priorities straight, people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben1 View Post
    European media give these two cardinals a good chance to be the next Pope.
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    ^ there are six cardinals under the age of 60. Perhaps one of them should be the one to lead the church into last century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    Remember, the abusers were gay, and most of the boys were not children but under age young men. The effect on the church has been devastating.
    The level of your ignorance is appalling.

    Toronto Star columnist Rosie DiManno:

    As Catholic-in-Chief, Pope Benedict XVI deserved to be fired. . . .

    . . . It has reversed every hint of theological liberalism, essentially erasing Vatican II from history, in a fierce embrace of the rigidly doctrinaire.

    It has not always played nice with Anglicans (luring their disenchanted clergy), Jews (Benedict lifted the excommunication of a bishop who openly denied the Holocaust) and Muslims (the pope imprudently quoted, during a university lecture, a 14th century Byzantine emperor’s comment that Islam had been spread by the sword and was thus a violent religion; debatable but not helpful either.) . . .

    . . . All of that was this Pope’s doing, step-by-backwards-step dragging the Church to smallness and spitefulness as apostle for doctrinal purity. “God’s Rottweiler” during a quarter-century of bossing everybody about theologically from his perch as leader of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith — doctrinal enforcer, cerebral academic swinging a heavy sledge — before matriculating to the Apostolic Palace as successor to John Paul II, voted oldest pontiff in 275 years.

    If Benedict had been the CEO of a transnational conglomerate, he would not have survived these last eight years on this record. On his watch, the Church has been in danger of going the way of Bethlehem Steel, the bankruptcy moral rather than financial. (Oh yes, the Vatican is rolling in the dough, as always, barely acknowledging serial corruption scandals.) . . .
    One other thing: It's never wise to defend Hitler.
    Last edited by Keeland; February 12th, 2013 at 10:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Negasta View Post
    It's a pity there isn't a hell for this disgusting old prick to go too, because there is no prison bad enough on earth to make him properly pay for his repulsive crimes. I wonder how many Catholics have left the Church in disgust at his policies?
    I honestly don't pay much attention to Catholic policies but is this current pope more 'disgusting/repulsive/evil/heinous/etc' than the previous ones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    I honestly don't pay much attention to Catholic policies but is this current pope more 'disgusting/repulsive/evil/heinous/etc' than the previous ones?
    When His Unholiness was in charge of the Sacred Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith (aka the Inquisition), he was responsible for making the protection of child rapists top priority when a report of clerical abuse reached his desk. He made it so that all reports of abuse came directly to him so he could more effectively keep them secret in order to preserve the RCC's reputation.
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    ^yea thanks honey now hard-up will never stop picking on me.

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    Strange as it may seem, in this particular thread, Ben1, it is against this websites policies to post pictures of children.

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    Yes, that is strange. Like I wrote, I am not the biggest fan of Benedict but after some ugly pics here
    I think we need some nice pics of the man, his familiy and so on. Maybe we can make this exception.

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