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    So! If Straight Men Would Be Well Paid In Straight Porn,Gay For Pay Would Not Exist?

    You often hear gay for pay men saying the famous (i only make gay porn for money because it pays better) thing.

    If straight men in straight porn would actually make more money than men in gay porn,would gay for pay ever been known?

    Would gay for real men make straight porn?

    Since they would not make lots of money in gay porn.

    If straight men in straight porn would make more money than men in gay porn,would gay for real men represent the majority of men in gay porn?

    Last edited by Marco Sensual; February 6th, 2013 at 08:01 PM.

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    Re: So! If Straight Men Would Be Well Paid In Straight Porn,Gay For Pay Would Not Exist?

    They'd still fake "gay for pay", because gay men love the idea of straight guys having gay sex.

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    Re: So! If Straight Men Would Be Well Paid In Straight Porn,Gay For Pay Would Not Exist?

    So many questions and so little answers.

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    Re: So! If Straight Men Would Be Well Paid In Straight Porn,Gay For Pay Would Not Exist?

    Such big question, and little answers.
    "You may only be one person to the world, but you may also be the world to one person"
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    Re: So! If Straight Men Would Be Well Paid In Straight Porn,Gay For Pay Would Not Exist?

    * * wondering * *

    If Mr. Magoo had an account on JUB, how would he be able to find the ‘submit’ button?

    Would he be able to see replies?

    Would he use groceries for an avatar?

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    Re: So! If Straight Men Would Be Well Paid In Straight Porn,Gay For Pay Would Not Exist?

    Such big endorsement and so tiny results.
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    Re: So! If Straight Men Would Be Well Paid In Straight Porn,Gay For Pay Would Not Exist?

    As long as there's a big market for it the product would still exist, either the guys who weren't quite good enough to make it in straight porn, or gay 4 pay would pay a little more to attract the actors over. From what I've seen though most gay 4 pay models are hired directly to do it and aren't pulled out of straight porn or whatever.

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    Re: So! If Straight Men Would Be Well Paid In Straight Porn,Gay For Pay Would Not Exist?

    Even if straight men would be paid more in straight porn,gay men would still be the minority in gay porn.Gay men gets beat at their own game by straight men.

    Gay for pay men makes more money than gay for real men.Its gay porn! Its says a lot.

    When it comes to gay porn,straight men owns gay men.Big time!

    Gay men gets screwed by straight men.In a bad way.

    Maybe theres no way to get rid of gay for pay.

    Gay for pay men will possibly always be in gay porn.

    Gay porn used to have mostly gay men in the 70s and in the early 80s.Most men in gay porn were gay back then.

    Gay for pay started to be bigger in the mid 80s.It just got bigger every years.

    It looks as if theres about 7% of gay men left in gay porn.Eventually,you will barely see any gay men in gay porn.Gay for pay men are taking over and dominates gay porn.

    Who is to blame for that?

    Is it really gay men who asked for straight men in gay porn or its those who makes gay porn who really started the gay for pay crap?

    Its not gay porn anymore.Its just male porn.

    Last edited by Marco Sensual; February 6th, 2013 at 09:54 PM.

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    Re: So! If Straight Men Would Be Well Paid In Straight Porn,Gay For Pay Would Not Exist?

    Except that nobody who does "gay for pay" porn is actually straight. If you actually buy that, you're an idiot.

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    Re: So! If Straight Men Would Be Well Paid In Straight Porn,Gay For Pay Would Not Exist?

    I don't believe in "gay for pay". I certainly don't believe it exists to the extent we are told. Maybe one in 100 "gay for pay" actors is actually straight... To be honest, I don't find gay for pay very appealing. It's pretty much the same as rape. That just isn't sexy to me. I much prefer openly gay actors who have boyfriends in the industry. It's hot watching two guys who are actually in love go at it.

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    Re: So! If Straight Men Would Be Well Paid In Straight Porn,Gay For Pay Would Not Exist?

    I felt like I just got a history lesson in gay porn by reading this thread.

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    Re: So! If Straight Men Would Be Well Paid In Straight Porn,Gay For Pay Would Not Exist?

    Most gay for pay men are Kinsey1ners.Which means they have sex with men from time to time.But,they are mostly straight.

    Most gay for pay men at Sean Cody,Next Door and Corbin Fisher are Kinsey1ners.Some of them are possibly Kinsey2wers.But,most gay for pay men are Kinsey1ners.

    Lots of gay men mix bi men with gay for pay men.They are different.Bi men are in the LGBT team.Gay for pay men are not.Since they are mostly straight and they only have sex with men for money.

    Most Kinsey1ners would not even consider themselves bi.They would say that they are straight.Even if they are bi to some degree.Those who are between 1 and 5 on the Kinsey scale are bi to some degree.Those who are Kinsey2wers,Kinsey3wers or kinsey4wers are fully bi.Kinsey1ners and Kinsey5vers are bi to some degree.Kinsey1ners are mostly straight and Kinsey5vers are mostly gay.Straight people and gay men are the minority.

    Gay for pay men doesnt love men.They doesnt date men.They just want to have sex with men.

    What makes you bi is not only sex.Its also emotional.So,if a man is into men sexually but he is not emotinally into men,he is not fully bi.He is bi to some degree.In others words,a bit bi.He just like the sex part of it.

    The point is,most gay for pay are really mostly straight.

    The thing is,gay men goes too hard on their fantasy and wishful thinks too much about these men being bi that they believe it in the end.

    Lets face it.Most men in gay porn are mostly straight.

    Yes! Its fucked up.

    But,who is to blame?

    Last edited by Marco Sensual; February 6th, 2013 at 11:22 PM.

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    Re: So! If Straight Men Would Be Well Paid In Straight Porn,Gay For Pay Would Not Exist?

    Keep your dream alive and one day maybe, just maybe you will be able to seduce a "Kinsey1ner" straight guy from BoyNextDoor.

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    Re: So! If Straight Men Would Be Well Paid In Straight Porn,Gay For Pay Would Not Exist?

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    Re: So! If Straight Men Would Be Well Paid In Straight Porn,Gay For Pay Would Not Exist?

    Quote Originally Posted by RaKroma View Post
    Keep your dream alive and one day maybe, just maybe you will be able to seduce a "Kinsey1ner" straight guy from BoyNextDoor.
    Or, y'know, there's always Rohypnol. Just saying.

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    Re: So! If Straight Men Would Be Well Paid In Straight Porn,Gay For Pay Would Not Exist?

    Maybe,maybe not. The fantasy element would still be there though.

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    Re: So! If Straight Men Would Be Well Paid In Straight Porn,Gay For Pay Would Not Exist?

    I still don't get whether the big mouthed OP is actually splitting his theory into three parts or he's actually yelling to the wall. He's not replying to anyone ever, not in any thread of his
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    Re: So! If Straight Men Would Be Well Paid In Straight Porn,Gay For Pay Would Not Exist?

    hey, that first post is actually quite coherent!

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    Re: So! If Straight Men Would Be Well Paid In Straight Porn,Gay For Pay Would Not Exist?

    How the hell does gay for pay equal rape? That doesn't follow in any way.

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    Re: So! If Straight Men Would Be Well Paid In Straight Porn,Gay For Pay Would Not Exist?

    Spending too much time at Taboo and partying with the straight for pay strippers eh! Marco?

    Thats ok .....




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    Re: So! If Straight Men Would Be Well Paid In Straight Porn,Gay For Pay Would Not Exist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Str8Top14701 View Post
    How the hell does gay for pay equal rape? That doesn't follow in any way.
    In reality, if any straight man is having gay sex for money, it's because he is desperate. Maybe he is starving? Maybe he has a sick child? And we are paying him to do something against his very nature, something he will surely regret, something that (in reality) would likely cause long lasting psychological struggle... Rather than just helping a desperate person, gay for pay is pretty much forcing someone to do something they loathe. Rape is, at it's core, is sex that is only being enjoyed by one member of the act.

    We generally don't like to think about this because it makes the fantasy of the whole thing less enjoyable. But as I don't believe the vast majority of gay for pay actors are actually gay- the rape aspect seldom happens. But it is something that maybe we should be aware of.

    I think it's a sexier fantasy to see a bi guy who has only been with women do gay for his first time. At least he is enjoying it.

    I already know this will be dismissed. That's because we don't like to feel guilty about something we enjoy. "But he agreed" will be used... he either agreed because he isn't straight or because he is desperate (in which case it's not true consent).

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    Re: So! If Straight Men Would Be Well Paid In Straight Porn,Gay For Pay Would Not Exist?

    Quote Originally Posted by FanofFiction View Post
    . . . . .

    I already know this will be dismissed.
    . . . .
    It would be an alright-good post if not for the ‘we’ bits.

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    Re: So! If Straight Men Would Be Well Paid In Straight Porn,Gay For Pay Would Not Exist?

    Really? No gifs for the massive fonts? JUB is disappointing me today.

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    Re: So! If Straight Men Would Be Well Paid In Straight Porn,Gay For Pay Would Not Exist?

    Quote Originally Posted by FanofFiction View Post
    In reality, if any straight man is having gay sex for money, it's because he is desperate. Maybe he is starving? Maybe he has a sick child? And we are paying him to do something against his very nature, something he will surely regret, something that (in reality) would likely cause long lasting psychological struggle... Rather than just helping a desperate person, gay for pay is pretty much forcing someone to do something they loathe. Rape is, at it's core, is sex that is only being enjoyed by one member of the act.
    Porn is produced to look like two people having sex with a camera guy who just happens to be filming it.

    But if you sit down and really analyze a video you can see that it's fake. They take frequent breaks. They lay in unnatural positions. The moaning is generally over the top.

    It's pretty much common knowledge that male performers use porn, and manual stimulation to fluff up before each take. Not so much their scene partners.

    For example I'm sure Phenix Saint has shot well over 200 scenes, you can't tell me he found every single one of his scene partners physically attractive. I'm sure he's had more than a handful of films where he just showed up and phoned it in for a paycheck.

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    Re: So! If Straight Men Would Be Well Paid In Straight Porn,Gay For Pay Would Not Exist?

    Quote Originally Posted by G-Lexington View Post
    They'd still fake "gay for pay", because gay men love the idea of straight guys having gay sex.

    Lex
    I can or will never understand this ideology. Gay men wants to have sex with someone that hates them, or do not find then attractive in the least bit. And the thread I just started today is missing.Who the fuck did I pissed off this time around?

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    Re: So! If Straight Men Would Be Well Paid In Straight Porn,Gay For Pay Would Not Exist?

    And btw, those so called straight men who sleep with gay men for money is not straight at all. Why do gay men keep thinking that they are straight? Do they have self hatred issues? Do they thinks it's awesome that a straight man who likes girls prefers to sleep with them, because apparently the forbidden fruit is too hard to resist?

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    Re: So! If Straight Men Would Be Well Paid In Straight Porn,Gay For Pay Would Not Exist?

    Quote Originally Posted by FanofFiction View Post
    In reality, if any straight man is having gay sex for money, it's because he is desperate. Maybe he is starving? Maybe he has a sick child? And we are paying him to do something against his very nature, something he will surely regret, something that (in reality) would likely cause long lasting psychological struggle... Rather than just helping a desperate person, gay for pay is pretty much forcing someone to do something they loathe. Rape is, at it's core, is sex that is only being enjoyed by one member of the act.

    We generally don't like to think about this because it makes the fantasy of the whole thing less enjoyable. But as I don't believe the vast majority of gay for pay actors are actually gay- the rape aspect seldom happens. But it is something that maybe we should be aware of.

    I think it's a sexier fantasy to see a bi guy who has only been with women do gay for his first time. At least he is enjoying it.

    I already know this will be dismissed. That's because we don't like to feel guilty about something we enjoy. "But he agreed" will be used... he either agreed because he isn't straight or because he is desperate (in which case it's not true consent).

    HMMMM, You intelligence is showing. Good valid point, sir.

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    Re: So! If Straight Men Would Be Well Paid In Straight Porn,Gay For Pay Would Not Exist?

    I don't think anybody truly cares that much. Whether the guys in gay porn are straight, bi, gay or reptile in human form, you're still seeing what you want.

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    Re: So! If Straight Men Would Be Well Paid In Straight Porn,Gay For Pay Would Not Exist?

    Quote Originally Posted by AshyPhoenix View Post
    Except that nobody who does "gay for pay" porn is actually straight. If you actually buy that, you're an idiot.
    Basically, no heterosexual male is going to have intentional sexual contact with another male. Gay-for-pay is such a stupid myth that people allow to believe which feeds into the delusion of these deeply in-denial individuals...

    Bisexual most likely, but heterosexual no...

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