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[Nishin]

tongue punch his fart box!!

* farts *
errr
*faints*

[eastofeden]

You should check out his anti-gay blog before giving him your sympathy.

One thing...as others have said...I don't think he is "ex gay" at all...I think he is a prisoner of his own fears....and so on a strictly personal level...I do have some sympathy for him because I am well aware of the external forces that work 24/7 to create these conditions in which he is living in fear and shame...

I have to believe that somewhere deep inside himself he didn't want to grow up to be such a collassal douchebag.

In my eyes...sympathy is not such a good thing...it would be better if I had some empathy for him and I have none. I cannot relate to his fear and I especially hate the manner in which he acts out because his actions and words potentially can affect and damage lots of good people and he is part of a huge problem.

I don't know if that makes any sense but sympathy and empathy are two different things entirely in my opinion.

[xbuzzerx]

One thing...as others have said...I don't think he is "ex gay" at all...I think he is a prisoner of his own fears....and so on a strictly personal level...I do have some sympathy for him because I am well aware of the external forces that work 24/7 to create these conditions in which he is living in fear and shame...

I have to believe that somewhere deep inside himself he didn't want to grow up to be such a collassal douchebag.

In my eyes...sympathy is not such a good thing...it would be better if I had some empathy for him and I have none. I cannot relate to his fear and I especially hate the manner in which he acts out because his actions and words potentially can affect and damage lots of good people and he is part of a huge problem.

I don't know if that makes any sense but sympathy and empathy are two different things entirely in my opinion.

I agree with you. And there are things we shouldn't force ourselves to either sympathize or empathize with, at least in my view. I can appreciate that someone's background and influences and the way they were raised brought them to a certain point or predisposed them to be more or less capable of handling certain things than other people, and I can feel sorry for them for that, but where they choose to go with that as capable adults has to reflect something about them and their values too. People aren't just a confluence of what people drilled into them growing up.

[Rolyo85]

I would like to state that this is most definitely ^ YOUR OPINION.

Don't speak for everyone. It's my natural instinct to be sad over anyone "ruining their life".

Um, I just said its different. Get off the high horse.



As for definitions - NOBODY is ex gay. He is the one calling himself that.

[rareboy]

And Kien Wrote:

tongue punch his fart box!!

I like the way you're thinking.

But I suspect his ass is so tight you couldn't get a needle up his fudge hole.

[Laufey]

Alright but here's the rules, Scaelle you have to speak to him in Malay, I'll use Spanish-Japanese, Rolyo speak Bulgarian and Laufey speak Icelandic, then he'll think we're speaking in tongues and sent by god to him.

That's hot!

And before I leave I will tell him "By the way... Thor says hello"

[xbuzzerx]

I like the way you're thinking.

You can come and speak Canuck if you like. "I'm aboot to cum.."

[Huntneo(PT)]

Um, I just said its different. Get off the high horse.

No, it would just be depressing in a different way.

Being sad over someone attractive ruining their life is a natural instinct, nothing wrong with it.

different. sure.

[Rolyo85]

I'm sorry, sugar, do you have a problem with the concept of attractive people getting more breaks than unattractive ones? Sucks to be you if that's the case.

The air must be hard to breathe on such a high saddle...

[GiancarloC]

One thing...as others have said...I don't think he is "ex gay" at all...I think he is a prisoner of his own fears....and so on a strictly personal level...I do have some sympathy for him because I am well aware of the external forces that work 24/7 to create these conditions in which he is living in fear and shame...

I have to believe that somewhere deep inside himself he didn't want to grow up to be such a collassal douchebag.

In my eyes...sympathy is not such a good thing...it would be better if I had some empathy for him and I have none. I cannot relate to his fear and I especially hate the manner in which he acts out because his actions and words potentially can affect and damage lots of good people and he is part of a huge problem.

I don't know if that makes any sense but sympathy and empathy are two different things entirely in my opinion.

I'm tending to agree with this. I had similar issues when I was younger. I would go on a gay website and feel incredibly guilty about it later even saying anti-gay things to others... I think what happened here was guilt and shame...

I came to the truth with myself though... and he needs to do the same. But I don't really know if I feel much sympathy either.

[Huntneo(PT)]

I'm sorry, sugar, do you have a problem with the concept of attractive people getting more breaks than unattractive ones? Sucks to be you if that's the case.

I'm sorry, sweetheart, you seem to have missed the point in my quoting you.

This isn't about attractive people getting "breaks" (and speaking of which, I don't think the subject of this thread is), this is about you speaking for everyone when you made (what I felt to be) a bullshit remark as if it were fact.

[FanofFiction]

Maybe I'm a small person for finding so much joy in his getting outed... is it outing when you were gay, and then you "weren't" gay, but now you "are again"?

Ex-gays do so much more damage than maybe we understand. They don't really damage us directly, because we know better. Someone comes up to us and says, "I'm not gay anymore and you don't have to be either", we laugh. It's an outrageous statement to make. It's hilarious. So we shrug it off. No problem.

But these jerks fuel the religious organizations. My father-in-law is a pastor and he believes in ex-gay ministries. He and his wife LOVE hearing stories about ex-gays. They mention it every once in a while. For them, ex-gays legitimize their bigotry. They give hope to all these people who would have us revert "back to" hetrosexuality.

When I was in university, my husband (he was my boyfriend at the time) and I joined the campus Christian group. When they found out we were gay, things changed. They urged us to visit NARTH, email Exodus, and listen to vlogs by Ex-gays... The Christian group could name 20 ex-gays off the top of their heads! So they are more relevant than maybe we give them credit for. Ex-gays have a following.

I can't help but think if there were fewer or no ex-gays to fall back on, my religious friends would be less likely to believe in it.

[RazorzEdge88]

I'm sorry, sweetheart, you seem to have missed the point in my quoting you.

This isn't about attractive people getting "breaks" (and speaking of which, I don't think the subject of this thread is), this is about you speaking for everyone when you made (what I felt to be) a bullshit remark as if it were fact.

Get over it, Adrian. He's HOT. That makes this more tragic.

[Rolyo85]

Get over it, Adrian. He's HOT. That makes this more tragic.

"More tragic"? You exhibit either lack of reading skills, or trolling, or stupidity. So far I'm betting on trolling, but feel free to prove either of the other two. Though they kinda go together...

[Rolyo85]

I'm sorry, sweetheart, you seem to have missed the point in my quoting you.

This isn't about attractive people getting "breaks" (and speaking of which, I don't think the subject of this thread is), this is about you speaking for everyone when you made (what I felt to be) a bullshit remark as if it were fact.

I'm still failing to see anything in your responses to me other than some knee-jerk "I'm empathic to everyone, not just pretty people!" Reaction. Kudos to you. So does everyone else.

[RazorzEdge88]

I'm good at reading between the lines. Tough shit if it bothers you.

[G-Lexington]

He obviously slipped into temptation due to the unrelenting pressure of the homosexual cabal. Maybe he can join OverCum...uh, I mean OverCome.



Lex

[Rolyo85]

I'm good at reading between the lines. Tough shit if it bothers you.

It really doesn't because you're certainly not demonstrating it here. I feel nothing but loathing and disgust for that loser, and you trying to make it as if I've posted some sad lamentation of the "poor pretty boy" is entirely your invention, in your head and you're responsible for it.

It's also trolling.

[RazorzEdge88]

Let me enlighten.

No, it would just be depressing in a different way.

Being sad over someone attractive ruining their life is a natural instinct, nothing wrong with it.

"Different way" is just code for "more depressing," unless you're implying that being attractive makes someone less of a human being.

[borg69unimatrix]

It really doesn't because you're certainly not demonstrating it here. I feel nothing but loathing and disgust for that loser, and you trying to make it as if I've posted some sad lamentation of the "poor pretty boy" is entirely your invention, in your head and you're responsible for it.

It's also trolling.

Eh. He's 'cute'... but he's not THAT cute. "Pretty Boy" is stretching it, IMO.

[Rolyo85]

Let me enlighten.

"Different way" is just code for "more depressing," unless you're implying that being attractive makes someone less of a human being.

Maybe in Shallow Gay Shade World it is. In my world it means "different". Speaking in codes annoys me, so I avoid doing it.

[Rolyo85]

Eh. He's 'cute'... but he's not THAT cute. "Pretty Boy" is stretching it, IMO.

Hence my using quotation marks

[Huntneo(PT)]

I'm still failing to see anything in your responses to me other than some knee-jerk "I'm empathic to everyone, not just pretty people!" Reaction. Kudos to you. So does everyone else.

Still missing the point.

This conversation is over.

[Rolyo85]

Still missing the point.

This conversation is over.

Not at all. You are bitching at me for supposedly making a sweeping claim when it's "JUST MY OPINION", which should go without saying. Or is anybody here moron enough to think I am Metatron and speak with the voice of God? No, everything I say is my opinion. It is idiotic that you'd start an argument over it.

That said, the psychological response to seeing good looking people fuck it up is different than seeing unattractive people fuck it up. that's a fact, and if either of the two of us cared enough for this dumb argument, I'd go look for research to support it.

[dereperez]

I love these "born-again straights". They seem awfully confused.

[loveguys72]

I love these "born-again straights". They seem awfully confused.

They're not confused, just desperate not to be who they are. Which I find very sad.

[Kien]

When you think about the internal struggles that he and others are going through, it truly is sad. They are a contradiction of their own beliefs and they believe their God won't let them love (or act on it, at least).

[dereperez]

They're not confused, just desperate not to be who they are. Which I find very sad.

Well I meant they are confused if they think they are fooling anyone. Most can see right through their charade.

[loveguys72]

When you think about the internal struggles that he and others are going through, it truly is sad. They are a contradiction of their own beliefs and they believe their God won't let them love (or act on it, at least).

And this is why I had to give up on organized religion. God made me in his image and likeness, gave me the capacity to give and receive love, but then forbids me from giving or receiving love or else I'm damned for all eternity?! Where the hell's the logic or mercy in that? Just seems sadistic to me.

[bankside]

If his kink is to feel guilt and shame in order to get off, it's not for me to judge. So I don't care if he hates himself if that's what makes him cum harder.

But he needs to lay the fuck off the other gays. And if he wants to fuck someone with HIV bareback, it's his suicide. But he can't go fucking other people for a few more months until Jesus makes him feel bad about sex again. What a dewsh.

[Hard-up1]

Well, he is living within the US, so finding other people is not too difficult.

And I am aware that there are many different christian denominations (including various catholic groups), but, as far as I know, there is only one Hell for christians. In contrast, atheïsts don't need to be afraid to end in Hell. So its up to him. He has choosen to become / stay a christian and I predict that guys like him will end in Hell.

Guys like him don't listen to people like me, because they suffer from a brainwashed mind. So what must we do?

I think your distance skews your perception. There are entire denominations that do not teach hell, nor do they endorse it. We have lots of gays on this board that will tell you they don't relocate well or easily.

Suggesting that finding other people is somehow easy presumes a lot about this guy that we don't know. It's obvious he is deeply conflicted, which means his upbringing is apparently NOT easy to set aside easily. Not being brought up in that atmosphere, or not in the South, makes is easy for us to look in and opine about what is or isn't easy.

If he is an atheist, he'll discover that, too, and that will be his choice, but assuming that is required because Christianity is somehow monolithic is just ignorant of the diversity that exists within the religion, as well as ignoring Christian groups that are actually pro-gay.

[umjreon88]

You can't choose to be gay...........but apparently you can choose to be an idiot

AMEN TO THAT!!!

I just hope the guy doesn't waste away too much of his life with this nonsense. I've talked to so many guys who reach their 60s and 70s regretting spending too many of their years with the horrible mindset this guy has. You can't get it back.



I would like to state that this is most definitely ^ YOUR OPINION.

Don't speak for everyone. It's my natural instinct to be sad over anyone "ruining their life".

Totally, don't have to be attractive to have my sympathy...

[pat grimshaw]

So has this thread resolved itself? Have we reached a satisfactory conclusion?

[borg69unimatrix]

So has this thread resolved itself? Have we reached a satisfactory conclusion?

You're the only one digging up the past, and what's been laid to rest.