There's such a lack of them where this is a main focus. The top properly taking control, bending the bottom over, taking his pants off for the big reveal and then fingering the guy with the cam on the action.

Bottoms fingering themselves is something of a turn-off - fine in life but in porn I like the top to be more domineering.

I'm also NOT interested in vids where this leads to fisting, that is NOT my thing at all...rimming is perfectly okay though

I did see an excellent one once (cannot remember where) that involved a guy bent over a crate with a guy sitting on his back, spanking and fingering him and also fucking him with something green, I think probably a vegetable - anyone seen this one?

Anyway, can anyone relate?/ point me in the right direction