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    Re: Pastor Leaves Nasty No-Tip Note to Waitress, then Demands she be fired (article)

    Quote Originally Posted by LatimerRd View Post
    Rarely am I not pleased when servers attempt to ingratiate themselves to me, and I almost always respond in kind. We have a shared interest in making the exchange--however brief--a mutually beneficent and beneficial one. Moreover, I find most of the servers and runners I come into contact with to be hard-working, proficient, and helpful, and I genuinely enjoy their presence.
    I tip usually 20-25% but I do not like the server to get personal with me. I appreciate good service.

    We recently went to dinner at a Greek Restaurant and the waitress was massaging the three of us and I knew her whole life story. I guess that is cool for some people but it isn't my thing. She did a good job waiting on us though so I still tipped her well but I would avoid her in the future because our dinner conversation was subject to her continual intrusions.

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    Re: Pastor Leaves Nasty No-Tip Note to Waitress, then Demands she be fired (article)

    Quote Originally Posted by JohannBessler View Post
    A huge part of the problem lies in the fact that no one wants to stand up to China, who're cheating to Orwellian proportions.
    The US tipping culture is peculiar, seems to be a method to externalize labour and tax costs for the employer. The ability to earn a gratuity must have successfully been used as a basis for justifying reduced wages at various points.
    Workers in a fair few other western countries are able to earn tips (often tax free) in addition to high minimum wages. Service doesn't seem to be markedly different between the US and other western countries, despite the incentive you might think a tip would motivate.

    I don't think low wages / currency manipulation by China is actually linked to underpaying of retail workers and wait staff in the US. Same attitude maybe, but not the same economics. Most western countries get their electronic and clothing goods manufactured in China, but service industries, restaurants in particular, are not subject to competition by workers in China.

    Increasing wages for services which employ locals would seem a sensible way to enlarge and stabilize a domestic economy. Their salaries feed back in to the same economy, mostly.
    Blah blah blah, something enigmatic sounding...

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    Re: Pastor Leaves Nasty No-Tip Note to Waitress, then Demands she be fired (article)

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard-up1 View Post
    I wouldn't enter CE&P if I were on fire and it had the only water in the building. We get enough of the slop bucket overflowing into this forum. The hateful exchanges there are not appealing to me at all. I would not post in political topics here if the mods were to properly move the threads that are blatantly political, but they prefer to leave them here in Hot Topics where they will benefit the site from racking up post counts. Like most of our vices, I claim that I simply cannot help myself.

    As for missing the point, no, I have not. Political parties have always manipulated their constituents with various ploys. It is hardly surprising that the uneducated who know nothing about economics will parrot the party line about "job creators" or whatnot.

    The poor who vote Republican, whether it is because they are anti-abortion but trained not to say it, or hate Obama because they don't have any black friends and therefore find racism too easily, or because they believe those godless Democrats are going to approve gay marriage and bring down the Apocalypse on a "disobedient America," do so because the party has successfully tapped into some key issue.

    That we sympathize with the Left doesn't mean it has acted any more nobly, or that it broadly represents its constituent members any better. Such is the nature of coalitions. Both national parties fail abysmally at leading the country, especially in legislation. Both are woefully sold out to special interests, all of them economic. The recent debate on gun control is a perfect example. No real reform is even on the table. Under no scenario will they even consider banning existing automatic weapons like assault rifles. They'll waste time, make faux debate about this or than token word, and then pass a meaningless bill that will somehow still favor the big interests.

    Even the poor, or the toothless as some like to denigrate them, know that neither party represents them. Anyone finding it convenient to slander them for simply not agreeing with a particular policy is just dismissive. They are entitled to be as burned out and cynical as anyone on the left. Just because they are not educated doesn't make them lacking in wisdom when it comes to political treachery. After all, green advocates and civil libertarians have had to watch as Mr. Obama failed to deliver on ecology and alternative energy, as well as continuing torture of prisoners at black sites. No one gets what he voted for.

    I have voted third parties, liberal all, several times before Mr. Obama's nomination, and we still sorely need a range of parties to force the big two off the catbird seat.
    I disagree with any attempt to create false equivalency between the two parties, and Zogby showed in various studies during Bush's 2 terms that Republicans rather routinely misidentify Democratic platform issues as Republican ones at a rate far higher than Democrats misidentify their party platforms. If you want to discuss how there's more of a spin and misinformation machinery for the right that takes advantage of its poorer or less informed constituency, that is certainly a valid point, but to simply imply both sides do exactly the same thing is patently untrue. Equally I would disagree that to anywhere near a comparable degree the political left simply makes up false stats or relies heavily on sources of information repeatedly shown, even to the point of courtroom action, as disseminating information that is incorrect and politically slanted under the guise of impartial news reporting.

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    Re: Pastor Leaves Nasty No-Tip Note to Waitress, then Demands she be fired (article)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kabluey View Post
    I don't think low wages / currency manipulation by China is actually linked to underpaying of retail workers and wait staff in the US.
    This is exactly right. Poor Johann, ladies and gentlemen, is so naive here. "Oh, just stop China from cheating! That will raise U.S. wages."

    There are other much more important factors in play, some of which aren't even the fault of the U.S. government or "big business."

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    Re: Pastor Leaves Nasty No-Tip Note to Waitress, then Demands she be fired (article)

    My friends and I have developed a sliding scale rule, starting with at $10 tip, working downward for what ever point the server got wrong (inattentive service, etc.) But if the server is a guy I find cute, I'll admit, that $10 may jump to $15 or $20.

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    Re: Pastor Leaves Nasty No-Tip Note to Waitress, then Demands she be fired (article)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kabluey View Post
    The US tipping culture is peculiar, seems to be a method to externalize labour and tax costs for the employer. The ability to earn a gratuity must have successfully been used as a basis for justifying reduced wages at various points.
    Workers in a fair few other western countries are able to earn tips (often tax free) in addition to high minimum wages. Service doesn't seem to be markedly different between the US and other western countries, despite the incentive you might think a tip would motivate.

    I don't think low wages / currency manipulation by China is actually linked to underpaying of retail workers and wait staff in the US. Same attitude maybe, but not the same economics. Most western countries get their electronic and clothing goods manufactured in China, but service industries, restaurants in particular, are not subject to competition by workers in China.

    Increasing wages for services which employ locals would seem a sensible way to enlarge and stabilize a domestic economy. Their salaries feed back in to the same economy, mostly.
    Quote Originally Posted by RazorzEdge88 View Post
    This is exactly right. Poor Johann, ladies and gentlemen, is so naive here. "Oh, just stop China from cheating! That will raise U.S. wages."

    There are other much more important factors in play, some of which aren't even the fault of the U.S. government or "big business."
    haha you silly gooses, you know that the Chinese post had absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand. We drifted off topic in the natural flow of the conversation.

    Kabluey, you, in particular, handled this with grace. Kudos to you.

    I'd answer your point about China, but, as you pointed out by proxy, it has nothing to do with the pastor's actions.

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    Re: Pastor Leaves Nasty No-Tip Note to Waitress, then Demands she be fired (article)

    I don't even know *why* we still have this sub-minimum wage tip-dependant strata of the service workforce, and only for certain jobs and not for others (bellboys, waiters, etc.) anymore. I can only attribute it to America's seeming and irrational belief that if costs of anything ever go up the world is going to tumble down, even if whatever extra we pay on a meal goes to someone who is going right out and spending it check to check and putting it right back into the economy.

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    Re: Pastor Leaves Nasty No-Tip Note to Waitress, then Demands she be fired (article)

    Quote Originally Posted by jdcnow View Post
    My friends and I have developed a sliding scale rule, starting with at $10 tip, working downward for what ever point the server got wrong (inattentive service, etc.) But if the server is a guy I find cute, I'll admit, that $10 may jump to $15 or $20.
    unh unh.

    You may be poor but you should be tipping 15% minimum for good service...up to 20% for spectacular service on the meal without the wine and tax..

    But as I noted earlier...I hate this system and wish we'd be more like Europe or even Australia on this matter.
    Last edited by rareboy; February 6th, 2013 at 03:12 PM.

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    Re: Pastor Leaves Nasty No-Tip Note to Waitress, then Demands she be fired (article)

    The entire concept of paying someone more because they're hawt (and it DEFINITELY happens, ask bartenders or ask any attractive female bartender) is degrading and a good case in point as to why this system is unfair and backwards. Someone could work just as hard (or more so), be overweight and ugly and get paid less as a result.

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    Re: Pastor Leaves Nasty No-Tip Note to Waitress, then Demands she be fired (article)

    I think almost everybody in the business actually hates the tipping system, but if we get the European system, they'd have to raise the prises.

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    Re: Pastor Leaves Nasty No-Tip Note to Waitress, then Demands she be fired (article)

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard-up1 View Post
    I wouldn't enter CE&P if I were on fire and it had the only water in the building. We get enough of the slop bucket overflowing into this forum. The hateful exchanges there are not appealing to me at all. I would not post in political topics here if the mods were to properly move the threads that are blatantly political, but they prefer to leave them here in Hot Topics where they will benefit the site from racking up post counts. Like most of our vices, I claim that I simply cannot help myself.

    As for missing the point, no, I have not. Political parties have always manipulated their constituents with various ploys. It is hardly surprising that the uneducated who know nothing about economics will parrot the party line about "job creators" or whatnot.

    The poor who vote Republican, whether it is because they are anti-abortion but trained not to say it, or hate Obama because they don't have any black friends and therefore find racism too easily, or because they believe those godless Democrats are going to approve gay marriage and bring down the Apocalypse on a "disobedient America," do so because the party has successfully tapped into some key issue.


    Even the poor, or the toothless as some like to denigrate them, know that neither party represents them. Anyone finding it convenient to slander them for simply not agreeing with a particular policy is just dismissive. They are entitled to be as burned out and cynical as anyone on the left. Just because they are not educated doesn't make them lacking in wisdom when it comes to political treachery. After all, green advocates and civil libertarians have had to watch as Mr. Obama failed to deliver on ecology and alternative energy, as well as continuing torture of prisoners at black sites. No one gets what he voted for.

    I have voted third parties, liberal all, several times before Mr. Obama's nomination, and we still sorely need a range of parties to force the big two off the catbird seat.
    Hard-up, this post actually excites me a little bit, but I have to veer widely off-topic to address it. The moderators may have to split the thread.

    Let us say that I agree with almost everything you've said. You did leave out--or underemphasize--the fact that the Religious Right highjacked the Republican Party, but in terms of the topic I plan to suggest, the point is moot, anyway.

    I agree with you that we need to have a wider choice of parties from which to choose. That way, each person really would get to vote for someone who really and truly does represent their needs, rather than a whole demograpic (the impoverished South) essentially brainwashed into voting in an economically suicidal manner.

    At any rate, they call the idea "proportional representation". Proportional representation relates to the practice of assigning a certain percentage of seats to certain parties, based on their actual percentage of the popular vote.Let's use California for an example: if 43% of the people vote Republican, right now, they practically have no voice, because of our stupid winner-takes-all approach.

    Under proportional representation, they'd have 43% of the seats in their States legislature. What concept seems more democratic?

    Best of all, small, independent parties get represented. If 1% of California votes the Green Party, then 1% of the seats goes to them. Great idea, huh?

    GUESS WHAT? We Americans have already done it! During my favorite era--the Swing Era--Americans brought in many progressive ideas. We really did see one of the most progressive eras in the history of the Union.

    Very few Americans know that we practiced "progressive representation" for a while during that magnificent era, but several major municipalities, up to and including New York City, did it for a while:

    https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/polit...%20of%20PR.htm

    The question remains: How do we get it back?

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    Re: Pastor Leaves Nasty No-Tip Note to Waitress, then Demands she be fired (article)

    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    unh unh.

    You may be poor but you should be tipping 15% minimum for good service...up to 20% for spectacular service on the meal without the wine and tax..
    Acutally, at the places my friends and I eat at, the math works out to where a $10 tip would actually be better than a 20% tip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    . . . . Someone could work just as hard (or more so), be overweight and ugly and get paid less as a result.
    Or, they might collect more from pity tips.

    Or, “Let’s help this mutt get into accounting so we only have to look at it once a year.”

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    Re: Pastor Leaves Nasty No-Tip Note to Waitress, then Demands she be fired (article)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kahaih View Post
    Or, they might collect more from pity tips.

    Or, “Let’s help this mutt get into accounting so we only have to look at it once a year.”
    Something tells me this never actually happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohannBessler View Post
    I will answer your questions honestly. Johan.
    In the other thread, I'd spoken of buying skunk spray on her seat in order to spite her. Johan, she really was a homophobic, racist, trashy cunt. She was.They finally fired the bitch. By the time she left, she had not one single ally left. They all got together and threw a celebration party--one to which she was not invited.

    The worst part of it, from my point of view, was that she really did confirm those horrible stereotypes we Southerners have to hear. She cussed like a sailor, and every other word that came out of her was the n-word, she voted Republican (of course), and you wouldn't have wanted to get her started on the "effin' Mexicans" supposedly taking our jobs. She hated every living thing that breathed.

    Haven't you felt yourself despising people who fit into a negative stereotype--a stereotype that personally embarrassed you? Surely that must have happened to you.

    You brought up one more question: why do I use the term "toothless white trash"? As I have already admitted, I grew up in Appalachia. The town in which I grew up could be considered an oasis of higher learning; in fact, they developed the isotopes that fed the atomic bomb in that area.

    Having said that, I still had to rub elbows with people who fit that stereotype, Johan, and speaking honestly, I was a victim of bullying by that demographic. I have written about it elsewhere on JUB about it.

    Getting bullied by the "toothless white trash" crowd left scars on my psyche that will never completely heal. That's the naked truth.

    Is it any wonder that I would grow up to hate them?
    thanks, but you didn't actually answer my questions

    I'll restate them..

    toothless_______trash

    Bessler, if you filled the blank in with "black", "asian", "hispanic", "native american", etc., would that be acceptable too?

    and if not, why is "toothless white trash" acceptable to you, and the others aren't?
    pretty simple...first question calls for a yes or no answer

    second question depends on how the first is answered

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    Re: Pastor Leaves Nasty No-Tip Note to Waitress, then Demands she be fired (article)

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    Re: Pastor Leaves Nasty No-Tip Note to Waitress, then Demands she be fired (article)

    Johan, my original answers would have seemed opaque to you, so I want to try again.

    Here's the question I thought you asked:
    *Why do you hate the toothless white trash?

    And now, it seems that you really meant:
    *Why do you deem the term "toothless white trash" an acceptable term?

    I answered the first question honestly. So now I'll answer the second.

    Well, Johan, I use that term because everybody else does, and no one else has come up with a different term to describe that demographic.

    Can you think of one? If so, I'll use it. I refer to the group of impoverished people who have no intelligence, hate the N77GGers, "Jewes", "queres", vote Republican, and spit in the street.

    If you can think of another term, I'll use it.

    Or have I missed the point entirely?

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    Re: Pastor Leaves Nasty No-Tip Note to Waitress, then Demands she be fired (article)

    ^I just realized something, Johan.

    I see in your avatar that you consider yourself Benderboy's friend.

    That explains everything. I now know why you consider the term "toothless white trash" offensive, and I do believe this conversation has met its demise.

    Good luck to you in your endeavors.

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    Re: Pastor Leaves Nasty No-Tip Note to Waitress, then Demands she be fired (article)

    Quote Originally Posted by JohannBessler View Post
    Johan, my original answers would have seemed opaque to you, so I want to try again.

    Here's the question I thought you asked:
    *Why do you hate the toothless white trash?

    And now, it seems that you really meant:
    *Why do you deem the term "toothless white trash" an acceptable term?

    I answered the first question honestly. So now I'll answer the second.
    No, you didn't answer the first part of my question at all. I may be mistaken, but it appears that you're evading it.

    so, I'll restate it for the third time...

    toothless_______trash

    Bessler, if you filled the blank in with "black", "asian", "hispanic", "native american", etc., would that be acceptable too?


    only requires a simple yes or no answer

    Well, Johan, I use that term because everybody else does, and no one else has come up with a different term to describe that demographic.
    No, Bessler, everybody else does not use that term. I for one, don't..but after running a search, I have to admit that there are many more her than I thought that do

    Can you think of one? If so, I'll use it. I refer to the group of impoverished people who have no intelligence, hate the N77GGers, "Jewes", "queres", vote Republican, and spit in the street.

    If you can think of another term, I'll use it.
    It seems that you already have thought of another term to use:

    "impoverished unintelligent Republicans"







    Quote Originally Posted by JohannBessler View Post
    ^I just realized something, Johan.

    I see in your avatar that you consider yourself Benderboy's friend.
    yes, and thanks for noticing. I've had that up there for 2 weeks, maybe?..before that I had "time to heal" for about three days; and before that, I had "still Bendy's friend"



    That explains everything. I now know why you consider the term "toothless white trash" offensive, and I do believe this conversation has met its demise.
    wow, this is weird

    I thought we were having a nice civil discussion

    what does my friendship with Bendy have to do with what we were discussing?

    and tell me...why do I consider the term "toothless white trash' offensive ?

    Good luck to you in your endeavors.
    thanks, sorry you have to leave

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    Re: Pastor Leaves Nasty No-Tip Note to Waitress, then Demands she be fired (article)

    Quote Originally Posted by JohannBessler View Post
    ^I just realized something, Johan.

    I see in your avatar that you consider yourself Benderboy's friend.

    That explains everything. I now know why you consider the term "toothless white trash" offensive, and I do believe this conversation has met its demise.

    Good luck to you in your endeavors.



    Bessler, I know you got my comment asking asking you to explain this post of yours

    are you going to do so, or are you going to continue running from it..?

    what does my friendship with Bendy have to do with what we were discussing, and how does that "explain" everything?

    .....he never came up in our discussion

    and what bearing does that have on why I consider the term "toothless white trash" offensive ?



    ..you're putting me in mind of a 10 year old girl who sticks her tongue out at someone

    ...and then runs inside the house and slams the door

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    Re: Pastor Leaves Nasty No-Tip Note to Waitress, then Demands she be fired (article)

    Didn't this thread start about something having to do with a chintzy ass pastor and
    her disgustingly unnecessary rude activities coupled with the service persons dumb
    move to make it public...

    BTW, tips in America used to mean
    To Insure Promptness



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    Re: Pastor Leaves Nasty No-Tip Note to Waitress, then Demands she be fired (article)

    ^^^ Unlikely.

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