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    Why President Obama went to Nevada to talk immigration reform

    Washington Post's Chris Cillizza touches on the demographic, social, and political change going in with the citizenry in the long-established presidential bellwether state of Nevada. The Silver State has been in the column of all prevailing candidates in every election since 1912, saying no only to the Democratic pickup winner of 1976—Jimmy Carter. Since that election of 1912, Nevada has voted the same in nearly every election as another bellwether which was admitted into the union that year—New Mexico. (The sole exception: 2000, with the split outcome in the Electoral College and U.S. Popular Vote. George W. Bush won over Nevada and Al Gore held New Mexico in a Republican pickup year.)

    Cillizza mentions the Land of Enchantment, briefly, and it tells a lot. In 2012, Nev. and N.M. were bluer than some core base states for the Democrats. Nev. (D+6.68) was bluer than New Hampshire (D+5.58) and Pennsylvania (D+5.39). N.M. (D+10.15) was bluer than my home state Michigan (D+9.54) as well as Minnesota (D+7.69) and Wisconsin (D+6.94). The changing demos help make this change possible. Cillizza goes over that with Nev. quite well. N.M. must also be noted from this example in Wikipedia.org: "Among U.S. states, New Mexico has the highest percentage of Hispanics, at 46 percent (2010 estimate), including descendants of Spanish colonists and recent immigrants from Latin America."



    Why President Obama went to Nevada to talk immigration reform

    By Chris Cillizza
    Jan. 29, 2013 | http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...ration-reform/

    President Obama chose Las Vegas, Nevada to make his big pitch for comprehensive immigration reform on Tuesday. That was not by accident.

    There is no state that better typifies the political realities underpinning the fight over immigration reform than the Silver State. The numbers tell the story.

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    Re: Why President Obama went to Nevada to talk immigration reform

    its not only immigration. the further you get from DC the more sensible people become. look at Montana, they are now a blue state. colorado and wa have legal pot and mantrimony. not sure how much immigration would factor there but its clear that DC is a black hole consuming every rational idea. washington politics just sucks everything up and then throws up all over itself. federalism has failed folks.


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    Re: Why President Obama went to Nevada to talk immigration reform

    -allowing rogue states with vulnerable voters to dictate state and national policy

    stupid people being allowed to vote is a danger to the well being of our country more than it is a danger to stupid people. texas is on the bottom in education yet get to send just as many people to congress as any other state? a huge weakness in federalism.

    -trampling our freedoms with constitution churning 'senators' deciding our liberty
    "if not for a federal government, the patriot act would be unnecessary"
    you could easily argue that new york would be better equipped to deter terrorism had it not have to rely on a weak, incompetent, wasteful federal army.

    -taking from productive states to enable the weak to take pride in being stupid

    -a supreme federal court that effectively and rabidly tampers with the democratic process
    "gore v bush, citizens united" if not for federalism, these decisions would not have ANY impact on the entire country.

    imagine how well other states would do if it were not for a few radicals in congress blocking every attempt at progress. i think people would be stunned to see how much we are held back by federalism and how it allows the establishment to dictate which monopolies deserve to survive.

    if we had 50 states competing against each other without federal infringement deciding winners and losers, we would be much better off as a whole.


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    Re: Why President Obama went to Nevada to talk immigration reform

    If you had no federal government....the US would be vast stretches of economically and ecologically devasted land you'd drive through....(oh no, wait a minute....you likely wouldn't....) to get from the west coast to the east coast.

    Think Mad Max meets the slums of the third world.
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    Re: Why President Obama went to Nevada to talk immigration reform

    If you had no federal government....the US would look like the Balkan states.

    There would still be slavery and homosexuals would probably be put to death in some states.

    Women probably wouldn't vote.

    And Japan and Germany would have won the war.

    The problem isn't a federation. The problem is a tri-partite non-parliamentary system strangled by only having 2 parties and being owned by corporations.
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    Re: Why President Obama went to Nevada to talk immigration reform

    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    If you had no federal government....the US would be vast stretches of economically and ecologically devasted land you'd drive through....(oh no, wait a minute....you likely wouldn't....) to get from the west coast to the east coast.

    Think Mad Max meets the slums of the third world.
    That's the amazing part of the hostility towards the Federal government. Nine times out of ten the places that hate it and Federal taxes the most are the ones most disproportionately reliant upon it.

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