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    Re: Republicans Want to Rig Presidential Elections

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Dem's gerrymander congressional districts also -- but it doesn't make it right that republicans do it too.

    It's time for the process of gerrymandering to stop. It's not good for the people involved.

    I am now separated from my form district and live in a long thin line that encompasses 2 miles on either side of a highway for many miles. The lines were drawn by a republican state legislature with the assistance of my former congressman -- Emmanuel Cleaver. I'm not sure what the republican legislature got out of the deal -- Cleaver probably would have lost if the district was drawn to reflect a more county by county alignment.
    Gerrymandering is wrong. Look at what Virginia did. Bob McDonnell (you remember.... the guy who wants to stick ultrasound wands up women's vaginas before they can exercise one of their constitutional rights) said it was a bad thing to do but did he say he was going to veto it? I'll bet you he won't. Someone else did he dirty work for him.

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    Re: Republicans Want to Rig Presidential Elections

    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    If the gerry mandering process were to stop, Texas would become a democrat leaning state. So lets not kid ourselves... some here wouldn't be in favor of it. If it were to stop, this country as a whole would suddenly be more blue leaning.
    If Texas switches to blue it's a death knell for today's GOP party. It will have to massively reinvent itself or set off a nuke in the U.S. and frame it on Democrats or something to win an election legitimately again.

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    Re: Republicans Want to Rig Presidential Elections

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    If Texas switches to blue it's a death knell for today's GOP party. It will have to massively reinvent itself or set off a nuke in the U.S. and frame it on Democrats or something to win an election legitimately again.
    Don't give them any ideas. I'm sure they thought of something along these lines but first they have to make sure their 1% owners have left the area for their villas overseas

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    Re: Republicans Want to Rig Presidential Elections

    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    If the republicans were to stop voter suppression in Florida and Ohio those states too would be further out of their reach. They tried so hard to rig Florida's election and it still went to Obama by nearly 90,000 votes (if I recall right).
    Strategy for winning in 2016: block 90,001 voter registrations in Democratic districts in Florida! Our message wasn't to blame!

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    Re: Republicans Want to Rig Presidential Elections

    Quote Originally Posted by T-Rexx View Post
    No, not in the least.

    Democrats won the popular vote in 2000 but lost the electoral college vote to the Republican candidate.

    Democrats did not respond by attempting to rig the electoral process so that they might win future elections, even if a majority of the voters should cast their ballots for the other party.
    Yes, they did. There were similar schemes to award electoral votes using a variety of different methods, which, had they been in affect during 2000, would have led to a Gore win. Those proposals, like these ones here, went no where.

    The Virginia scheme is not an attempt to "fix" any problems with the electoral college. It is an attempt by Republicans to steal offices they cannot win with votes. Democrats have not tried to discourage Republicans from voting, have not tried to reduce voting hours in Republican areas but not Democratic, and have not tried to make the votes of Republicans count less than those of Democrats.

    This is not a bipartisan tyranny. It is Republican and Republican alone.
    Both parties have done it after stinging losses. Learn your history.

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    Re: Republicans Want to Rig Presidential Elections

    Quote Originally Posted by JB3 View Post



    Both parties have done it after stinging losses. Learn your history.
    doesn't make both parties equally culpable for voter supression.

    more false equivalencies from a party full of excuses.


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    Re: Republicans Want to Rig Presidential Elections

    Quote Originally Posted by evanrick View Post
    doesn't make both parties equally culpable for voter supression.

    more false equivalencies from a party full of excuses.
    Only the Republican National Party is operating under a federal court order upholding a consent decree to prevent them from overtly suppressing the vote and have been operating under the consent decree for 20 years. http://electionlawblog.org/wp-conten...ds/rncvdnc.pdf

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    Re: Republicans Want to Rig Presidential Elections

    Quote Originally Posted by palemale View Post
    Only the Republican National Party is operating under a federal court order upholding a consent decree to prevent them from overtly suppressing the vote and have been operating under the consent decree for 20 years. http://electionlawblog.org/wp-conten...ds/rncvdnc.pdf
    not to mention the civil rights act, the bill of rights. the gop will always oppose people exercising their rights.


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