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    Re: "It's just the internet"

    there's two sides of the coin. the internet is real and then the internet is NOT real. you have to be very careful. there's some people that are real on this site, telling the whole entire truth, might be changing a few details and etc BUT they're real. then there's the people that don't exist.
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    Re: "It's just the internet"

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    Yes I agree. We have to try and accept the different people from the different cultures in our world.

    JUB is not our personal playground even though others are determined to treat it as one. ~
    Yes some people are, aren't they Grimshaw.

    Some people think that it is their soapbox to spread their racist, misogynist and ugly little perspectives on the world in just about every goddamned thread on the boards.

    Some people think that they should take a quote from a thread about Richard Blanco's experience with his homophobic, abusive grandmother and drag it into another thread in order to grind their dull, rusty axes.

    Some people seem to want it both ways...they don't want the trolls and the sociopaths to ever have to leave a forum because they have some fantasy about how everyone must be able to evolve and to become a better person just by being on a forum like JUB....but they don't want forums to become so debased and devalued by just being full of trolls and sociopaths cross chattering and mindfucking the actual 'real' people who come to JUB for entertainment and a positive experience....that ultimately, it becomes a continuous playing out of lies and betrayals, with people just finally shaking their heads and saying...It is Just the Internet.

    But at the end of the day...that is all it is, isn't it? If it is a vehicle or tool that people use to then meet others outside the electronic lounges...then that is great. If some posters forge bonds and are able to actually share more information about themselves truthfully with one another, great.

    But every time that JUB or other sites are flooded by the fakes and the phonies, the cynical manipulators and the trolls...it just diminishes the environment and leads to more people having less trust in one another.

    But for Fuck's sake people. How many more months are we going to be whining about Wanker and Bender? In neither case, were they driven away. In Wnaker's case, it was his own reactions to being exposed as a fake that led him to be banned. No one else had anything to do with it.

    Neither of their tales of petty deceit and deception are interesting enough to keep gnawing on like gristle. Let it go.

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    Re: "It's just the internet"

    ^ Yes and yes.

    And despite the fact that it's a topic many people here are completely happy to ignore, the racist and misogynistic views on JUB are not something that bothers no one here or goes entirely unnoticed. I know via PM and post comments, particularly when I respond to these posts, that it does bother a lot of other people too.

    It's pretty loathsome in a place where we're pretty much all here because we're a frowned upon minority in our mainstream cultures, but some people haven't had being gay males change their view at all on "but I'm still a White Male."

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    Re: "It's just the internet"

    Rareboy, it was you who spent hours and days and much effort to expose Wanker. Why did you do that if his petty deceit and deception was so uninteresting? You enjoyed the hunt and exposing him. Benderboy barely got a mention from you.

    You took the time to post here even though you call it gnawing on the gristle. If you want to let go of it, please do, but some others (not myself) feel they have unresolved issues with it. Let them do as they wish and you do the same.
    Everyone wants to be heard. No one wants to listen.

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    Re: "It's just the internet"

    A huge amount of people over here are real guys, living in the real world, and telling the truth. And refuji is one of them.
    I am Dutch, so please excuse me for my low level of English.

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    Re: "It's just the internet"

    SpectatingLoner, I'm sorry that you feel the need to see everyone on the internet with such a jaundiced eye. If we all had such mistrust, why would anyone post anything meaningful. Shouldn't we just stick to the very superficial topics, like penis size?
    Everyone wants to be heard. No one wants to listen.

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    Re: "It's just the internet"

    Quote Originally Posted by sixthson View Post
    Rareboy, it was you who spent hours and days and much effort to expose Wanker. Why did you do that if his petty deceit and deception was so uninteresting? You enjoyed the hunt and exposing him. Benderboy barely got a mention from you.

    You took the time to post here even though you call it gnawing on the gristle. If you want to let go of it, please do, but some others (not myself) feel they have unresolved issues with it. Let them do as they wish and you do the same.
    Wanker was not banned or chased out after his exposure. Lies should be exposed. If he wanted to stay here after that he was free to do so. His continuing freak out which snowballed into cursing out virtually everyone in the forum is what got him banned. He was someone who'd made 25 names here and started like a dozen "help me" threads to which he always nearly totally ignored all advice. You think someone persecuted him away from the possibility of help?

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    Re: "It's just the internet"

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    Wanker was not banned or chased out after his exposure. Lies should be exposed. If he wanted to stay here after that he was free to do so. His continuing freak out which snowballed into cursing out virtually everyone in the forum is what got him banned. He was someone who'd made 25 names here and started like a dozen "help me" threads to which he always nearly totally ignored all advice. You think someone persecuted him away from the possibility of help?
    No, but an awful lot of effort was put into exposing someone who seemed to only want to be the center of attention in his own threads. It didn't appear to me that he tried to seduce other JUBbers into some kind of relationship. I don't know anything about his 25 different names, but he painted himself as a loser, not just be his creepy pics, but with his own words. In most of his posts, he came across as pitiable. He did turn nasty in later threads, like a cornered animal. I am not going to defend him. He did wrong and he got the consequences.
    Everyone wants to be heard. No one wants to listen.

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    Re: "It's just the internet"

    Quote Originally Posted by JohannBessler View Post
    ^I can't agree with that, Joe.

    I came to JUB fresh from AOL Chat, a country with different rules and customs. Not only was verbal bashing tolerated there, it was actively encouraged, and indeed, expected.

    I am ashamed to admit that I brought that persona onto JUB, which in fact is a different country with entirely different citizens with different customs.

    The Internet tends to depersonalize. Instead of seeing someone in front of you with tears welling up in his eyes, all we see is words staring back at us in the face. In fact, the person on the other side of the Internet is a live, breathing person, who is capable of feeling pain, shame, and embarrassment.

    My big regret is that I didn't learn this sooner.

    It's not just the Internet.
    i agree. the internet only shows half the picture to somebody. it's a whole different story getting to see someone off the computer in a natural setting. people that come off as being the shit on the computer where they have a whole entire message board on their side can actually be anti-social geeks that have no friends or no social skills offline. even the truth is bound to touch someone's imagination where they make out such and such person to be this and that without even knowing them.

    even with voices, pictures, places and etc, it's NOT the same as seeing someone actually interacting in that setting and etc. it's a whole different ball game altogether.
    one thing about the closet/you don't have to hurry/it will be bad tomorrow/so brother, don't you worry

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    Re: "It's just the internet"

    Quote Originally Posted by sixthson View Post
    Rareboy, it was you who spent hours and days and much effort to expose Wanker. Why did you do that if his petty deceit and deception was so uninteresting? You enjoyed the hunt and exposing him. Benderboy barely got a mention from you.

    You took the time to post here even though you call it gnawing on the gristle. If you want to let go of it, please do, but some others (not myself) feel they have unresolved issues with it. Let them do as they wish and you do the same.
    Nonsense. It didn't take hours and hours. It actually took me less than about 20 minutes altogether. It was that easy. And I said at the time that I could care less if he stayed...only everyone should know that his poor me negative 'character' on JUB was a manipulative fake, totally different than on the other threads where he was banned. Except for the addiction to codeine cough syrup.

    As far as Bender goes, I made my own opinions known in the thread that got deleted. And frankly, the two are different. Wanker has created a plethora of maladjusted and malignant characters over his time on JUB and on other sites. All Bender has done is use someone else's pics and then be forced to 'apologize' for it after dodging for some time. Which he did and now he has to live here with all of us knowing this. He does have one very staunch friend through all of this though and it is out of respect for him that I am not saying any more. But I wouldn't believe Bender if he wished me Good Morning now.

    So yeah...I think that there is little to be gained by cranking out eulogies for Wanker. He is exactly one of the reasons, like the mythic 'Andreus' character that most people just dismiss all of this as 'Just the Internet'.

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    Re: "It's just the internet"

    I'm glad Richard Bianco's grandmother didn't participate in JUB otherwise that venerable Canadian who gets high on vitriol and thinks invective an art form would have made a detour on his next overseas holiday to "dig up that cunt's corpse, fuck her skull and then piss on the rest of her remains".

    It's just the Internet.

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    Re: "It's just the internet"

    What's the matter Patty?

    You a little pissed at having your ass handed to you again in the Blanco thread?

    Leave me the address of your final resting place and I'll be happy to come by to pay my respects.

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    Re: "It's just the internet"

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    ^
    Q E D

    So Pat, since you like the race topic so much, how come you don't just create a thread for a real discussion on it?

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    There was a well-loved JUBber here who confessed to fabricating some of his story. I think because his apology was seen as heartfelt and genuine, everyone seemed to forgive him, even if they were shocked. I think because of how he handled his confession, he actually helped the image of the internet. I wish he were still here.
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    Re: "It's just the internet"

    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    Nonsense. It didn't take hours and hours. It actually took me less than about 20 minutes altogether. It was that easy. And I said at the time that I could care less if he stayed...only everyone should know that his poor me negative 'character' on JUB was a manipulative fake, totally different than on the other threads where he was banned. Except for the addiction to codeine cough syrup.

    As far as Bender goes, I made my own opinions known in the thread that got deleted. And frankly, the two are different. Wanker has created a plethora of maladjusted and malignant characters over his time on JUB and on other sites. All Bender has done is use someone else's pics and then be forced to 'apologize' for it after dodging for some time. Which he did and now he has to live here with all of us knowing this. He does have one very staunch friend through all of this though and it is out of respect for him that I am not saying any more. But I wouldn't believe Bender if he wished me Good Morning now.

    So yeah...I think that there is little to be gained by cranking out eulogies for Wanker. He is exactly one of the reasons, like the mythic 'Andreus' character that most people just dismiss all of this as 'Just the Internet'.
    here's where i have to correct you on.

    i dunno about wanker, you might be right about him. what i do know is that whoever wanker was, he wasn't right in the head.

    with benderboy, the main issue was how he got called out way back on his bs and then lied about it. worst off, he tried to make out folks questioning him to be hating on him for whatever when he could have simply fessed up a long time ago. in other words, he's sorry that he got caught and i know that his ass would have more than likely done the same thing unless someone approached him on it. he decides to apologize when it suits him and expects everybody and everything that happened before to be forgotten where he can go back to how things used to be. you know, dude is one of the people that has gotten a pass for basically fucking with people on here whether it's ruining other people's threads with gifs flirting with cupid, posting youtube videos, slick ass comments and disses. i've seen people get thrown under the bus for little to nothing while someone like bender basically violates whatever and most people kiss his ass because at the time, he used somebody elses photo basically manipulating folks with the whole "pretty boy" bullshit. naw, fuck all that. i don't have anything against the dude but as others have stated, the whole selective let one guy slide with some bs and then lets jump on someone else because it's acceptable needs to stop.

    there's been so many people that have been thrown under the bus BUT yet you have some jackasses in here that try to manipulate, be slick and all that should have been put on ice a long time ago getting pisses because folks are cool with them, they look good or whatever. fuck that.

    you know, to be honest with you, if this site played by different rules or regulations, i would have been said my piece about some folks in here acting all dickheaded or whatever and i wouldn't give a fuck less. i could be as much of a dickhead and an asshole as much as some folks try to make themselves to be.
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    ^ Refugi, yes! .

    xxbuzzerx, I don't think your assertion is correct.

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    Re: "It's just the internet"

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    xxbuzzerx, I don't think your assertion is correct.
    "Since you're fixated on it", then. Correction.

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    Re: "It's just the internet"

    This thread is cool. I'm new here to JUB and don't have all of the experiences most of the posters here do, but it is comforting to see how many people realize effects places like JUB have on people. I would easily say that I would not be able to find this large a group of guys who share an affinity for other guys anywhere local to me. Most of what I feel has already been said, so I'll just bullet point my thoughts.

    - The internet is the modern day coffee shop, club, park, gym, etc. It is a locale of sorts for people to meet, get to know each other, share experiences, and whatnot. Meeting and interacting with people on the internet is no different than doing so face-to-face. Anyone who discounts interactions on the internet as anything other than real person-to-person interactions obviously has issues of their own they need to work through.

    - Interactions on the internet can be extremely positive. You are able to interact with people in geographic locations who you wouldn't otherwise be able to. People who are shy or withdrawn can use the internet to overcome the shyness by being able to "hide" behind a screen and keyboard where they may feel more comfortable. People are able to open up more and express deeper feelings in many cases when they can type it on a screen instead of tell it to a face. Those who are in trouble and wish to seek help without associating a face or identity to the person asking for the help can do so online.

    - With the positive aspects of online interactions comes negative possibilities as well. Lies and deceits are able to be easily orchestrated and hard to dispel. People can be meaner without having to look into the face and see the emotion of the person they're targeting. Online interactions can be used in offline situations to cause physical or emotional harm to people.

    I totally agree with the idea of online interactions being equal to face-to-face interactions. Were it not for places like JUB and other online venues I can visit in the evening, I probably wouldn't have much social interaction at all given my 7 day a week work schedule.

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    Re: "It's just the internet"

    Quote Originally Posted by tigerfan482 View Post
    This thread is cool. I'm new here to JUB and don't have all of the experiences most of the posters here do, but it is comforting to see how many people realize effects places like JUB have on people. I would easily say that I would not be able to find this large a group of guys who share an affinity for other guys anywhere local to me. Most of what I feel has already been said, so I'll just bullet point my thoughts.

    - The internet is the modern day coffee shop, club, park, gym, etc. It is a locale of sorts for people to meet, get to know each other, share experiences, and whatnot. Meeting and interacting with people on the internet is no different than doing so face-to-face. Anyone who discounts interactions on the internet as anything other than real person-to-person interactions obviously has issues of their own they need to work through.

    - Interactions on the internet can be extremely positive. You are able to interact with people in geographic locations who you wouldn't otherwise be able to. People who are shy or withdrawn can use the internet to overcome the shyness by being able to "hide" behind a screen and keyboard where they may feel more comfortable. People are able to open up more and express deeper feelings in many cases when they can type it on a screen instead of tell it to a face. Those who are in trouble and wish to seek help without associating a face or identity to the person asking for the help can do so online.

    - With the positive aspects of online interactions comes negative possibilities as well. Lies and deceits are able to be easily orchestrated and hard to dispel. People can be meaner without having to look into the face and see the emotion of the person they're targeting. Online interactions can be used in offline situations to cause physical or emotional harm to people.

    I totally agree with the idea of online interactions being equal to face-to-face interactions. Were it not for places like JUB and other online venues I can visit in the evening, I probably wouldn't have much social interaction at all given my 7 day a week work schedule.
    Well stated and belated welcome to JUB.

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    Re: "It's just the internet"

    Oh God....if ever a thread deserved to die, it was this one.

    I agree with you though. We've also had one now gone JUBBER on here who admitted that part of his story was made up and told the 'truth'.

    Which was also a lie.

    Could be the same one that SS misses so much.

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    Re: "It's just the internet"

    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    Oh God....if ever a thread deserved to die, it was this one.

    I agree with you though. We've also had one now gone JUBBER on here who admitted that part of his story was made up and told the 'truth'.

    Which was also a lie.

    Could be the same one that SS misses so much.
    The fake personas are always the most beloved. More interest, more drama, more fun, n'et-pas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    Oh God....if ever a thread deserved to die, it was this one.

    I agree with you though. We've also had one now gone JUBBER on here who admitted that part of his story was made up and told the 'truth'.
    Which was also a lie.

    Could be the same one that SS misses so much.
    who are you talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Lexington View Post
    The fake personas are always the most beloved. More interest, more drama, more fun, n'et-pas?

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    Re: "It's just the internet"

    I'll tell that to my giant circle of super close friends that I originally met on a forum over a decade ago
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    I did indeed ^_^
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    Re: "It's just the internet"

    Quote Originally Posted by BustinJeiber View Post
    In regards to the thread title.

    Yes, it really is 'just the internet' as much as anyone would like to claim it being more than that. The internet is like a mirror, you see it as what you are, not for what it really is. It really is a portal into the collective consciousness of humanity.
    Quote Originally Posted by BustinJeiber View Post
    Oh, and never take the internet seriously. That's just silly and for people who don't have fully developed intellects.
    You explained your own position. You said the internet is a mirror, and you don't view it as serious so, to you, it's not serious. And possibly some of your perception and your actions and words on the net reflect that view.

    But by your same argument if people do take it seriously, then it can be a serious place.

    I can't even hope to discuss 1/10th of the topics I regularly discuss online because in general I'm only around people who watch the latest popular shows and see the latest popular movies and talk about whose pizza is better. In my view it's most people in real life you can't take very seriously. It's easier to find a concentration of people who share your interests online than it is offline imo. Most people offline, you're lucky if they get as serious as the Daily Show, and which celeb is getting divorced.

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    ^^^ Dat point.
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    Re: "It's just the internet"

    Are "intelligent" and "un-funny" the same to you?
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    Re: "It's just the internet"

    ^ That's fine.

    But think of it as a dinner party at the end of a long and grueling day or week of work.

    Which should be a lot of fun and enjoyable and relaxing for everyone. You can talk and joke or even have some good and thoughtful discussions and have a great time in one another's company.

    Unless one or two of the guests show up totally wasted....or in a pissy argumentative mood, determined to get everyone at the table fighting among one another or taking complete control of the conversation to talk about some completely made up drama in their own lives. While that person may be having the time of their life....there is likely a whole table of guests who just call it a night and leave early.

    Balance is everything.

    So far, for instance, we've all been amused by the threads started by you....focussing on ass rape by your bff, being a whore, wanting to be a whore, scat play, etc. In a Walter Mitty world, these topics, however old these might be on JUB, are delightful grist for the mill...an antidote to the dull reality of corporate or student life or unemployment.

    And we all love cats and mystery and ambiguity and great pics. It is fun to glide over the world and just to enjoy things in the moment without attaching any significance or importance to them.

    But a lot of us are also happy doing it as 'real' people who can also discuss social issues, politics, economics, design, sports, cars, religious issues, the arts,...well you get the idea, I hope. We enjoy the interchange with other 'real' people, characters that we get to know in a more three dimensional sense, individuals that we connect with on a deeper level. This is what is satisfying about this ability to communicate instantly with others all around the world from every walk of life. For some, it becomes literally their only way of keeping in contact with other people who share at least one thing in common.

    And that is why even though it is just the internet, the experience has taken on the same intellectual and emotional and social weight as the corner bar or the social club or even distant extended family. It links us together in ways that 50 years ago, would have been unimaginable. So to the original question once more...when this trust is abused by sociopaths or frauds ....people react very strongly.

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    Attached is a picture of the Sudbury Neutrino Observatory. The sphere is a detector, 2 km underground, in the largest man-made underground cavity in the world, in a clean room down a 1.5 kilometre tunnel from the nearest mining operations. If you're very lucky, the rock will serve as shielding to filter out the cosmic background noise, and a neutrino passing through space will slip effortlessly through that rock to the heavy water in its core and, vanishingly rarely, actually interact with the heavy water and produce a tiny photon of light to be recorded by the photodetectors embedded in the sphere.

    It took them 20 years to publish their first results.

    When I came out, e-mail was high tech. NCSA Mosaic was not in existence. But they had this text-based menu thing called "Gopher" that would let you navigate through menus of other people's files on far away servers in computer labs.

    And with some diligence and a dialup modem, you might find a picture of a naked guy in a folder marked "gay," which was kind of like finding a neutrino: it proved that others existed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders123 View Post
    Personally, I find constant social interaction to be exhausting. I can go to dinner and a movie with friends, but if they decide to go out drinking afterwards, it's very rare that I will join them. Partly because I find it difficult to enjoy myself in those situations, but also because I'm usually tired by that point, and would rather come home and browse JUB or read a book.
    My friends are kind enough to let me go out with them and just "browse" the pub. It's nice to be able to sit back with a beer and listen to conversation and people-watch with no expectations of having to entertain others.

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    Wow, bankside... I feel old for totally recognizing the dialup modem and the gay folder situation...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    Wow, bankside... I feel old for totally recognizing the dialup modem and the gay folder situation...
    That sound effect the modem made while dialing will be burned into my memory forever.

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    Very Nice summation Buzzy.

    Fairly succinct and not even

    the least bit blatantly rude.

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    Wow. This is the sort of post that just turns me off to this website. And it's not like it's an isolated idea--ooh.

    JHC.

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    Which one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    Which one?

    The OG post. What else? I'm not having it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohannBessler View Post
    haha remember "Archie" and "Veronica"? Funny thing, that. I remember their colorful names, but I don't remember exactly what Archie and Veronica did. I think they were primitive search engines.

    Yeah and there were names like "Banyan on Vines"...people talked a lot about "servers" but they were servers in real life too....and there was a huge cardboard slide rule on the wall and an over-important lab monitor who did nothing at all. Also there were "turbo" buttons on the computer towers which made the number go from 16 to 33 but it didn't make any difference . WP was still a nightmare...

    Even irc was not assured after 6667 was blocked....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Native Son View Post
    The OG post. What else? I'm not having it.
    Ah got ya. Well, if playing the victim makes you hard... Personally, I call bullshit on all of those "this is the type of post that makes me not want to post in X" primadona postures. It's attention seeking, and people aren't really obliged to make you feel good. I mean, if you're so sensitive, you aren't safe ANYWHERE on the internet really
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    Ah got ya. Well, if playing the victim makes you hard... Personally, I call bullshit on all of those "this is the type of post that makes me not want to post in X" primadona postures. It's attention seeking, and people aren't really obliged to make you feel good. I mean, if you're so sensitive, you aren't safe ANYWHERE on the internet really

    No, no, no. How am I victim? I just don't agree that this is the place to come for someone in need. (Let alone a gay someone in need.)

    I wouldn't inflict here on my worst enemy, is what I'm trying to say.
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    And while we all feel your pain, it begs the question of why are you here then, when it's so horrifying?

    And by the way, many people in need have found great help and advice on JUB. Obviously not in HT, but HT isn't the place for that anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    Obviously not in HT
    I rest my case.

    So why is it so horrifying for me to say it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    but HT isn't the place for that anyway.
    By my reckoning, it absolutely is.

    Are you aware of Kristof?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Native Son View Post
    I rest my case.

    So why is it so horrifying for me to say it?



    By my reckoning, it absolutely is.

    Are you aware of Kristof?
    Your reckoning is mistaken, and no I am not aware of him. I am aware of the description of the HT forum though, which is

    "What's on your mind? This is the place for general discussion. - Mostly Safe for Work"


    Nothing in here about helping people, or being supportive to people in need. Often what's on people's minds could be (and is) offensive, insensitive and callous. There IS, however, a forum about that on JUB. It's called "Coming Out, Relationships & Bisex Talk", and it description reads:

    "Share your story. Get advice. No flame zone!"

    Now, to which of those would I come if I needed help? Hmmmmmmm...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Native Son View Post
    Wow. This is the sort of post that just turns me off to this website. ....
    Dear Native Son, stay away from 'Current Events and Politics' for your own safety. That place is full of pathological bitches.
    .

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    Dear Native Son, stay away from 'Current Events and Politics' for your own safety. That place is full of pathological bitches.
    As usual, Pat is being the big man slinging mud behind people's backs You are so brave, so noble, such a shining example of dignity and moral fiber ^_^
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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    Dear Native Son, stay away from 'Current Events and Politics' for your own safety. That place is full of pathological bitches.
    Bearing in mind that Pat telling someone not to go somewhere is practically a recommendation TO go there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    Dear Native Son, stay away from 'Current Events and Politics' for your own safety. That place is full of pathological bitches.
    But this is hot topics and as far as I can tell, the only one having a problem is native son. He apparently has a problem with my original post and is now calling others names. I'm not sure what the problem is, however.
    Everyone wants to be heard. No one wants to listen.

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    Rolyo85Facts.
    Facts? Which ones? Please.

    Perspective.

    It is just the internet.

    I could be wrong, but OP comes off as a little misguided.
    Last edited by Native Son; March 8th, 2013 at 12:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    Bearing in mind that Pat telling someone not to go somewhere is practically a recommendation TO go there.
    I know what you're saying, but Pits Grim does make a point...

    (Same point a thousand others have made before him, nothing new; but who's splitting hairs?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixthson View Post
    He apparently has a problem with my original post
    That's right. ProblemS. Plural!

    How you doin'?

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