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    Re: Recovery

    Thanks for telling us the story. And I admire your courage for speaking out. Your MHP will presumably let you know your options. If rehab sounds like the right move, then definitely go for it. I know a few people who went through, and came out a lot better than they went in. But whatever your path, know you've got a lot of support on either side.

    Keep kicking ass.

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    This time, we're all right behind you, Ashy. I'm glad you decided against suicide. The world needs you in it.

    Good luck with whatever path to recovery you choose.

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    As one who has been through detox and rehab I admire your strength. Keep fighting!

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    Thank you for being brave enough to share your story, Ashy. I think I speak for everyone that we definitely all support whatever steps you need to take to get better. And if you ever want to talk.

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    Keep strong, you know there are folks who love you out there


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    The hardest step is knowing that you have a lot more to take. Best of luck to you, and all of my best wishes.

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    If rehab will set you on the road to a clean and sober life then by all means go,. That first step is always the hardest, but it is the one that will set you free. I have been clean and sober for over 18 years now, and while life is not always great, it is always good. if you decide to follow a 12 step program/fellowship, there are rooms full of people who will give all that they have to help you. Best of luck.

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    Re: Recovery

    Excellent news. Please keep us posted.

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    creepy as this sounds it worked for me

    Step 1 - We admitted we were powerless over our addiction - that our lives had become unmanageable




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    Re: Recovery

    May I suggest you don't stay alone for the next few days ? Stay at a friend's or family if possible, or medical facility if needed ?

    You are beautiful, don't ever forget that.

    Last edited by oakpope; January 23rd, 2013 at 06:32 PM.
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    Im sorry that you are having such a difficult time. Ill pray for your recovery. You are considering rehab, that sounds like a good idea.
    " For all there is to feel, let it be felt"
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    Re: Recovery

    Ashy, when it is happening, is there anything that helps you to recognise a psychotic break? How do you know when to ask for help?
    Is there anything the rest of us can do?

    I could tell you were struggling before Christmas, both with the events going on in your life, but also something about your posting style seemed different… Usually your personality, humour, and your intellect comes through in every post. You're organised in your thoughts, and self-aware and fully able to describe even difficult issues in your life. In December, your posts came across kind of like you were spinning your wheels trying to make sense of things, and it made me wonder if your mental health was in for a rough patch. I wasn't sure what to do but try to help you figure out the options in the difficult situations you were talking about as clearly as possible. That's why I ask if there is anything in your experience that helps you recognise when you might need help sooner rather than later.

    Today you seem tired, but your posting style is back on an even track, especially given all you've been through in the last month. I doubt you want us studying everything you type to try to guess what is going on with your health, but if we notice a change like that would it help to mention it to you?

    Also, I think it should be considered whether the incident the other night was another kind of break, maybe not just the kind you have experienced before.

    Keep checking in here, okay?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oakpope View Post
    May I suggest you don't stay alone for the next few days ? Stay at a friend's or family if possible, or medical facility if needed ?

    You are beautiful, don't ever forget that.

    I second this. If you have a friend or a family member you trust, Ashy, maybe you shouldn't spend a lot of time alone right now.

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    Ashy, you need no confirmations from me that you did the right thing.

    But I have to tell you that you do have my affirmation and support.

    Keep your faith, (whatever drumbeat moves your spirit), and stay well...


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    breh, go for it. do whatever you think will help you and it's good that you're reaching out for help because you can't do this by yourself.
    one thing about the closet/you don't have to hurry/it will be bad tomorrow/so brother, don't you worry

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    Definitely keep reaching out. Rehab is worth looking into.

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    The first good thing is realising something is wrong. Many people never get out of this stage.

    If you think rehab is the best, then give it a shot. Otherwise you can try talking about it with other people who had been to rehab and was successful - maybe that can give you some things to consider.

    And be with anyone who cares about you whatever your state is. You will need plenty of support and care through this.

    and my prayer is with you stay well.
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    (((Ashy)))...One day at a time.....right now is all that matters and I think it is great that you are reaching out both here and at the NA and AA meetings.

    If you ever need to talk to someone you can always PM me

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    Coffee is better at NA meetings...well ok not always. Keep coming back - it works.

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    Sparkles get yourself into rehab and get this monkey off your back. Don't make me come over there and shave your eyebrows off

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    Good luck m8 , you have always come across as a sort of fuck you sort of guy and maybe that is just what you need just now .
    You are a well liked member here , if we can help , even just by chatting and letting you know we are here for your support , then
    i think that is a great head start............

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    Gosh, heavy times ahead.

    Good luck! Can't say I have any idea what you're going through, but I'm rooting for you.


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    Ashy, I don't know you personally.... but I do know the dark places our minds can lead us to.

    Just remember this from my own experience..... cheesy as it sounds...... It DOES get better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AshyPhoenix View Post
    I broke up with my boyfriend at the beginning of December, and I kind of muddled along for a bit; I then had two psychotic breaks where I was suffering from paranoid delusions. Those happened two nights in a row. I ended up in the hospital both times.
    I would hazard a guess that you are probably bipolar.
    This has probably been triggered by your emotional problems after breaking up with your boyfriend.
    Your MHP should recommed an assessment. If not, ask/demand one. The sooner you start on medication the better.

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    Thanks, Mom!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AshyPhoenix View Post
    So I got some excellent feedback from my mother. She called me a "heartbreak" after I told her I had been doing codeine and that I tried to kill myself. This is exactly what a post-suicidal person needs to hear. I debated crying about it, but decided that she can think whatever the fuck she wants. I'll just be me and be clean.
    This is why you'll ultimately prevail.

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    I don't know much about your addictions besides what I read here and there, but I think is very hard and very brave to accept our own faults and, being aware of those faults, is half way to defeate them.

    I was in a very dark place 10 years ago, it took me sometime to realize and accept it, and took me even longer to leave that person, that wasn't even me, behind. It's almost another life now, like if I was in a body that wasn't mine for a while. I sincerely wish that someday you can feel that, that the addiction is just a shadow that stole a part of your life, that prevented you to be happy. I feel a bit bitter when I think about that, but it's gone now, and it's up to me to never go back.
    Last edited by weinerslav; January 24th, 2013 at 06:19 PM.

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    Even though I've never met you, Ashy, I have grown fond of you from following your posts. Your latest report and its unflinching analysis of your last few weeks reflects the humanity, strength, and resolve that I think will allow you to conquer those addictions this time around. We are all rooting for you, and we know you will keep us updated on your trip up and out.

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    I've only witnessed addiction from an spectator's perspective, and it's somethingthat I've never understood for that reason. I have a brother that has been addicted to drugs, most notably pain killers, for a long time and has ended up on life support many times with nurses and doctors telling us that he might not make it. The only thing that I can say is that you have to do anything that you have to do to get better. I wish you the best in your recovery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by illgetbi View Post

    It's time to grow up dude. Stop this nonsense. Seek professional help to identify your real issues. Not JUB.
    I am not sure if you are actually trying to help in some weird way or if you are just being a dick....but this piece of advice clearly demonstrates you know nothing about addiction and recovery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eastofeden View Post
    I am not sure if you are actually trying to help in some weird way or if you are just being a dick....but this piece of advice clearly demonstrates you know nothing about addiction and recovery.

    What blows my mind is that a MOD would say something like that. I don't think he quite understands the definition of an addiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AshyPhoenix View Post
    He's not a mod; that's a custom user title.

    Guys, stop bagging on him. What needed to be said was said.
    You spoke very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by illgetbi View Post
    1) I assure you I'm trying to help. I always have in his threads.

    2) I know plenty about addiction and recovery. Do some research and you'll find a number of threads where I've slipped up and demonstrated in-depth yet deathly-conventional applications of my background in Psychiatry. They're great for naps, I'm afraid.

    3) When dealing with an addict, any approach that is used repeatedly yet doesn't yield any change in behavior should be recognized as the enabling that it is, and ceased or altered immediately. I'm not ready to give up on the OP, but I refuse to support him in ways I know won't work. If that makes me seem like an asshole, so be it.

    3) I'm not convinced this thread is about addiction and recovery. As already stated.
    This tiny glitch, inadvertently writing #3 twice, is the first evidence I've seen that you're human and capable of errors, IGB.

    It is, in fact, most welcome.

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    Well, he's inactive now. Hope he can get what he needs elsewhere.

    Lex

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    Good luck to you, Ashy!

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    Would anyone imagine a diabetic would absolutely always take his regularly scheduled doses of insulin and make 100% consistently good dietary choices if he also had recurring mental health issues?

    I find it strange that we'd expect someone to always be on top of his addiction when sometimes a person's brain does not support that kind of rational self-care.

    It's a multi-factor set of health problems where the application of "tough love" might make about as much sense as telling a diabetic to just show better self-control over his pancreas.

    Psychology has advanced since Newhart:


    For a more rational, compassionate, and more effective approach, I'd recommend the works of Dr. Gabor Maté.
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by illgetbi View Post
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    Pity party, nothing more. What are they supporting?

    That you've admitted your relapse and are acknowledging you have a problem? Old news.

    Your decision to go to rehab? We've all heard it before.

    Wishing you well why you're gone? Won't do a damn thing.

    All of the 'support' in this thread is useless at best, harmful/enabling at worst.

    And the few people who gave actual advice (some of it quite good!) are likely wasting their time, unfortunately.


    You're not a real drug addict. You want to be one, so you mess around with drugs just enough to cause drama and draw attention to yourself. It's dangerous behavior, sure, but it's not addiction.

    The type of help a true addict needs, and the way they ask for it, is a whole other ballgame.

    And you don't understand the rules enough to fake it, hard as you try.


    Anyway, my advice is to begin seeing a therapist weekly and a psychiatrist monthly.

    If you must go through with rehab, let your family select the facility. Hopefully somewhere out of state.

    Stop seeking motivations from others. Only you can convince yourself to change.

    Lastly, read some brutally candid autobiographies about true drug addiction. You'll feel silly afterwards, and better.



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    Whatever it is that plagues you Ashy I sincerely hope you find clarity and peace.

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    if you know this statement then you you know that I am sincere about your well being

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