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    Emotion and Arousal

    Hello cutie pie. How are you cutie pies doing today? I had a great day in sexuality class, and a very exhilirating discussion with my fellow students. And there were several topics that intrigued me. And I hope that maybe you guys might elucidate certain theories with your own experiences.

    Well, I was researching the two factor theory of emotion in social psychology. I had discussed it with my teacher, and basically the paradigm denotes the fact that emotion is always a two-staged process. 1) There is a state of physiological arousal where there are changes physically within you (heartrate keeps beating, get flushed, agitation). 2) And the next stage happens where you cognitively label that feeling with a certain emotion you believe brings the senses out. After labeling our emotions do we feel them in its full depth.

    For example, if you see someone approaching you that you don't know in a parking lot, you might feel your breath becoming more erratic and start shaking. Depending upon what feedback mechanisms you experienced or were socialized into (don't trust strangers), you assign the emotion to that feeling, and then the emotion is brought about.

    But the point of this boring topic (I will blow you afterwards for a reward :P) is that we might misattribute an arousal state for various emotions easily.

    For instance, Dutton and Aron conducted an experiment where a lady would ask male volunteers to answer experimental questions. She would hand out her number and inform them to call back in two weeks. One group was asked on a rickety bridge over a drop, and one was on land. The men on the bridge of course were shaken, nervous, and agitated. And they were the group that continued to call the woman back. They attributed that fear to being attracted to her.

    And in a Discovery ID Show (though I can't remember her) a group of women were shown photographs of men and asked to rate them in attractiveness from 1 to 10, each showing certain preferences. Weeks later, they were asked to rate them again, except this time they were asked after bungee jumping off a bridge. Their selectivity was reduced.

    So, the point of all this drabble? . Have you had experiences (or known somebody to) where you might have done this phenomenon and created an attraction unconsciously? Did doing something or being in a certain situation allow you to be attracted to someone or something that you normally wouldn't have been?
    Last edited by txjunior; January 22nd, 2013 at 06:04 PM.

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    Re: Emotion and Arousal

    So what's your question?

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    Very insightful, thanks for sharing.

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    Re: Emotion and Arousal

    I couldn't agree with you more.
    "You may only be one person to the world, but you may also be the world to one person"
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    Re: Emotion and Arousal

    Sorry, had to edit the post and add question. The question is, do you believe you have attibuted arousal to something else? Did you feel that you were attracted to something because of something previous that you did? I understand the difficulty in being objective.

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    Did doing something or being in a certain situation allow you to be attracted to someone or something that you normally wouldn't have been?
    Yeah. One time I was in the middle of reading a longwinded post and thought ‘gosh, a power outage might be nice right about now’.






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    Re: Emotion and Arousal

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    Kahaih, I'm sorry

    refujiunderground, sorry, southern twang sometimes sneaks into my vocabulary. I'll stop that immediately.

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    Apologies for harmless character traits sounds wimpy. Stop it immediately.

    Seriously, though, are you asking if I might misconstrue, on a subconscious level, arousal of one type for arousal of another? If this is all happening below a conscious level, are you advanced enough to put me under so that I could have a chance in hell of answering you?

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    part of me was being sarcastic haha.

    And you are answering whatever you want to offer. I'm not going to make you do anyting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by txjunior View Post
    I'm not going to make you do anyting.
    It's good we both recognize that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by txjunior View Post
    Have you had experienceswhere you might have done this phenomenon and created an attraction unconsciously?
    what I'm wondering is how you can possibly expect a rational answer to this question?

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    Re: Emotion and Arousal

    Quote Originally Posted by txjunior View Post
    Hello cutie pie. How are you cutie pies doing today? I had a great day in sexuality class, and a very exhilirating discussion with my fellow students. And there were several topics that intrigued me. And I hope that maybe you guys might elucidate certain theories with your own experiences.

    Well, I was researching the two factor theory of emotion in social psychology. I had discussed it with my teacher, and basically the paradigm denotes the fact that emotion is always a two-staged process. 1) There is a state of physiological arousal where there are changes physically within you (heartrate keeps beating, get flushed, agitation). 2) And the next stage happens where you cognitively label that feeling with a certain emotion you believe brings the senses out. After labeling our emotions do we feel them in its full depth.

    For example, if you see someone approaching you that you don't know in a parking lot, you might feel your breath becoming more erratic and start shaking. Depending upon what feedback mechanisms you experienced or were socialized into (don't trust strangers), you assign the emotion to that feeling, and then the emotion is brought about.

    But the point of this boring topic (I will blow you afterwards for a reward :P) is that we might misattribute an arousal state for various emotions easily.

    For instance, Dutton and Aron conducted an experiment where a lady would ask male volunteers to answer experimental questions. She would hand out her number and inform them to call back in two weeks. One group was asked on a rickety bridge over a drop, and one was on land. The men on the bridge of course were shaken, nervous, and agitated. And they were the group that continued to call the woman back. They attributed that fear to being attracted to her.

    And in a Discovery ID Show (though I can't remember her) a group of women were shown photographs of men and asked to rate them in attractiveness from 1 to 10, each showing certain preferences. Weeks later, they were asked to rate them again, except this time they were asked after bungee jumping off a bridge. Their selectivity was reduced.

    So, the point of all this drabble? . Have you had experiences (or known somebody to) where you might have done this phenomenon and created an attraction unconsciously? Did doing something or being in a certain situation allow you to be attracted to someone or something that you normally wouldn't have been?
    A very longwinded and loaded question...don't think my brain is ready to handle this (after a long day) just yet

    Nice avatar though!

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    Re: Emotion and Arousal

    It wouldn't surprise me, but I honestly can't recall of a situation where I (or somebody else) recognized me assigning one emotion but later having it pointed out that it was another.

    I will blow you afterwards for a reward...
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    Re: Emotion and Arousal

    Quote Originally Posted by txjunior View Post
    Hello cutie pie. How are you cutie pies doing today? I had a great day in sexuality class, and a very exhilirating discussion with my fellow students. And there were several topics that intrigued me. And I hope that maybe you guys might elucidate certain theories with your own experiences.

    Well, I was researching the two factor theory of emotion in social psychology. I had discussed it with my teacher, and basically the paradigm denotes the fact that emotion is always a two-staged process. 1) There is a state of physiological arousal where there are changes physically within you (heartrate keeps beating, get flushed, agitation). 2) And the next stage happens where you cognitively label that feeling with a certain emotion you believe brings the senses out. After labeling our emotions do we feel them in its full depth.

    For example, if you see someone approaching you that you don't know in a parking lot, you might feel your breath becoming more erratic and start shaking. Depending upon what feedback mechanisms you experienced or were socialized into (don't trust strangers), you assign the emotion to that feeling, and then the emotion is brought about.

    But the point of this boring topic (I will blow you afterwards for a reward :P) is that we might misattribute an arousal state for various emotions easily.

    For instance, Dutton and Aron conducted an experiment where a lady would ask male volunteers to answer experimental questions. She would hand out her number and inform them to call back in two weeks. One group was asked on a rickety bridge over a drop, and one was on land. The men on the bridge of course were shaken, nervous, and agitated. And they were the group that continued to call the woman back. They attributed that fear to being attracted to her.

    And in a Discovery ID Show (though I can't remember her) a group of women were shown photographs of men and asked to rate them in attractiveness from 1 to 10, each showing certain preferences. Weeks later, they were asked to rate them again, except this time they were asked after bungee jumping off a bridge. Their selectivity was reduced.

    So, the point of all this drabble? . Have you had experiences (or known somebody to) where you might have done this phenomenon and created an attraction unconsciously? Did doing something or being in a certain situation allow you to be attracted to someone or something that you normally wouldn't have been?
    Quote Originally Posted by txjunior View Post
    Sorry, had to edit the post and add question. The question is, do you believe you have attibuted arousal to something else? Did you feel that you were attracted to something because of something previous that you did? I understand the difficulty in being objective.
    It's interesting. I remember learning about this in my psych of personality class and sports psychology class. It was a while ago, so I do need to refresh my memory of it(which I haven't done as much while typing this out).

    Anyways, from reading your OP, it basically seems like emotionally conditioning your reactions to certain objects of arousal.

    So using your two factor theory, I'll take something like BDSM(pain) as a point of relevancy to the forums as an example. Physiological arousal = Pain.
    Emotional label = bad, undesirable, overall negativity.

    But there are some people who would associate pain with positive emotions, thus the enjoyment of that fetish.

    Of course, that's a VERRRY simplified way to exemplify it.

    The two factor theory can be used to predict personalities. It can differentiate between the risky and the cautious, the extroverted and introverted, and other oppositional personality traits. It can be used to explain a lot of stuff about anyone, really.

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    G-Lexington, I think people need time. So, we can take an extended break.

    I think the question was too difficult haha.

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    in a word, no

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    Kien, thanks for the response. We actually discussed that to, but that also comes under mere exposure theory.

    But thanks for answering in your way .

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    Quote Originally Posted by txjunior View Post
    I think the question was too difficult haha.
    I don't think the question is difficult. It's just that it's the sort of thing that you tend not to question within yourself. At least unless there's a real reason to do so. If something scares me (or, more accurately, I assign the emotion "fear" to something that affected me), would I have reason to go back and analyze that emotion...or simply say "wow, that scared the fuck out of me" and move on? If something (apparently) turned me on, would I have reason to sit down and analyze my sexual response to the item in question...or would I more likely just drop trou and start stroking? Unless something seems way off - "Why was I scared of the sax solo in 'Just the Two of Us'?" "Why did seeing a box of Q-Tips turn me on?" - we tend to simply accept what our brains are telling us.

    G-Lexington, I think people need time. So, we can take an extended break.
    Sounds like more than a blowjob. I'm down. When can I pencil you in for?

    Lex

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    Quote Originally Posted by txjunior View Post
    Kien, thanks for the response. We actually discussed that to, but that also comes under mere exposure theory.

    But thanks for answering in your way .
    The mere exposure theory says constant exposure leads to preference for something. I don't think my example really falls under that.

    I was saying that pain, for everyone, would elicit a physiological response. How they label that response effects the emotions they feel when pain is given.

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    Quote Originally Posted by txjunior View Post
    . . . .

    I think the question was too difficult haha.

    I’m guessing that you haven’t taken into account that many people think JUB’s Hot Topics is a scary place/setting.(?)

    Or, maybe your insult/intimidation is just extra dressing for an already set stage.(?)

    What ever, . . . your pool has pee in it.

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    I didn't mean for it to be insulting Kahaih. I truly am sorry that it came across that way. I didn't investigate the forums enough

    But if that can't convince you, then we can leave it here. I think I overstretched myself. But hey, things in forums get miscommunicated all the time. I have to develop thick skin.
    Last edited by txjunior; January 22nd, 2013 at 08:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by txjunior View Post
    So, the point of all this drabble? . Have you had experiences (or known somebody to) where you might have done this phenomenon and created an attraction unconsciously? Did doing something or being in a certain situation allow you to be attracted to someone or something that you normally wouldn't have been?
    Not that I remind of...
    I would believe all attractions are unconscious though, thus not seeing a difference between one following an event and a "regular" one... In the provided examples, especially the bungee jumping one there is no real rebuttal that their selectivity actually expended, just maybe their recognition/public admission of it... something that any very horny male is familiar with... ?

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    What if it's not a misattributed emotion? Maybe people feel heightened emotions when they feel threatened? Maybe a threat increases feelings of attachment and love?
    It's not as though people only feel one emotion at a time.
    Blah blah blah, something enigmatic sounding...

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    I do think attraction is a lot like real estate -- location, location, location.

    That cuts two directions. In a larger sense, it can be that one lives in a rural setting and is pretty isolated, and therefore may either not find anyone attractive, or is left to focus on straight men.

    In an even tighter meaning, living alongside whomever is a type of intimacy for most people. That usually influences what one values, who one admires, etc. And, to that end, many guys seem to manage their personal circles fairly actively, limiting whom they can be intimate with.

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    Well, given my emotional disorder, much of my processing is wonky anyway, and that notwithstanding, I'm going to say, when it comes to arousal, such as it is at this point in time, no.

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    Hours after the Yankees last won a World Series, I found myself really attracted to a guy I never once gave the time of day before. And I didn't even have a celebratory drink that night.

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