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    Re: CNN Poll: Country split on how things are going

    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    No wait, tiger... I get what he's saying all the problems today are Obama's fault because of some silly ridiculous partisan rhetoric that decides one cannot talk about what happened under the Bush administration.
    You're not listening. Accept that Obama is our President. He's been elected twice. He's in charge. Along with all the gloss and glamour comes responsibility. Obama is the big man in Washington -- leader of the free world.

    I get the feeling that somehow many liberals cannot accept that Obama is President -- they're happy he got elected but somehow lack the faith that he can get the job done or accept responsibility for his actions. I'm just not sure how to express it.
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    Re: CNN Poll: Country split on how things are going

    Try expressing it with silence. Less awkward for everyone
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    Re: CNN Poll: Country split on how things are going

    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post

    1 - cnn thinks o/w - they're an established news organization - hard for you to say with any oomph that they don't know what they're doing
    And the liberal bias of CNN is equally well established. They weren't called the Clinton News Network for naught.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Country split on how things are going

    Quote Originally Posted by youfiad View Post
    ... opinion poles ...
    What a gloriously accurate typo!

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    Re: CNN Poll: Country split on how things are going

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Why not look at things in the present? it's 2013.
    Jack. Read:

    Quote Originally Posted by tigerfan482 View Post
    Because today's problems and issues are a direct result of things done in the past. The situation people are in today, which is directly related to how they would answer that opinion poll question, is a result of past administrations and past legislative action (or inaction.) In government, what's happening today is a result of the additive effects of actions that were taken years ago in addition to the actions being taken now. What actions are taken now won't be fully realized until years down the road. That fact can't be ignored when reading the results of opinion polls. If you don't learn from the past (or just choose to pretend it never happened), then you are indeed doomed to repeat it.
    Any point Chance THOUGHT he was making by bringing up this poll failed because it wasn't a survey on how the President was doing (which was obviously what he was trying to correlate with the poll on inauguration day) and because a lot of the state of the country people are unhappy with are because of 8 years of Republican policy that nearly collapsed our economic system and skyrocketed our debt on two wars which were completely unpaid for.

    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    Hate is a word u throw around as often as u miss the bowl with your spray

    In this case posting a poll from CNN constitutes

    Hate is what u have in ur grinch like heart for the US - perhaps driven by envy

    You need to find some new material
    Did you SERIOUSLY just say this out loud? You?

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    Re: CNN Poll: Country split on how things are going

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    You're not listening. Accept that Obama is our President. He's been elected twice. He's in charge. Along with all the gloss and glamour comes responsibility. Obama is the big man in Washington -- leader of the free world.

    I get the feeling that somehow many liberals cannot accept that Obama is President -- they're happy he got elected but somehow lack the faith that he can get the job done or accept responsibility for his actions. I'm just not sure how to express it.
    Seeing as how you think Obama should do everything, I need to remind you that Congress needs to wake up and go to work. I got an email today for a petition to be signed to tell Congress No budget, No pay.

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    When Congress can't even meet the simple deadlines it sets for itself, it harms the American people's trust in the institution.

    That is why I am asking you to support No Budget, No Pay, which will be voted on in the House of Representatives on Wednesday, January 23. I ask this not only as one of your constituents but as a supporter of No Labels, a grassroots movement of hundreds of thousands of Democrats, Republicans and independents dedicated to bringing a new attitude of problem solving back to Washington.

    No Budget, No Pay simply states that if members of Congress canít pass a budget on time, they should not be paid.

    I strongly urge you to co-sponsor this important proposal, authored in the last Congress by Senator Dean Heller (R-NV) and Representative Jim Cooper (D-TN) and supported by a list of 90+ lawmakers in both houses of Congress.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Country split on how things are going

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    You're not listening. Accept that Obama is our President. He's been elected twice. He's in charge. Along with all the gloss and glamour comes responsibility. Obama is the big man in Washington -- leader of the free world.
    PAY ATTENTION. Obama isn't a dictator and he doesn't pass five year plans to immediately change production in the economy. And stop trying to deflect the reality. The man was left with an awful situation in this country... an awful economy.

    I get the feeling that somehow many liberals cannot accept that Obama is President -- they're happy he got elected but somehow lack the faith that he can get the job done or accept responsibility for his actions. I'm just not sure how to express it.
    Where the hell has it do with anyone not accepting that Obama is President? The massive fuck ups are in the Congress with its 9% approval rating. Like it or not, Obama isn't the dictator with a rubber stamp Congress. The Congress was often in opposition and bills start with with Congress. So the buck stops at the massive fuck ups in the GOP.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Country split on how things are going

    No Chance, tell us what you really feel about the President...made up numbers used by CNN isn't valid and results in an automatic 10 points off your final grade. Peer-reviewed journal articles and published dissertations are the only valid forms of empirical evidence allowed. Anything else, you get an automatic "F" for failure on your opinion-based memo on the President.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Country split on how things are going

    Quote Originally Posted by kayman23 View Post
    No Chance, tell us what you really feel about the President...made up numbers used by CNN isn't valid and results in an automatic 10 points off your final grade. Peer-reviewed journal articles and published dissertations are the only valid forms of empirical evidence allowed. Anything else, you get an automatic "F" for failure on your opinion-based memo on the President.
    made up #s ?

    by CNN ?

    they make up #s?

    not sure what to make of your "to me" post - but i saw another post by u using the N-word so ur cred is sorta fucked

    with me anyway - i imagine some of the 85 will kiss u on the lips

    as for cnn's poll it basically means that we still have a somewhat divided country

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    Re: CNN Poll: Country split on how things are going

    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    made up #s ?

    by CNN ?

    they make up #s?

    not sure what to make of your "to me" post - but i saw another post by u using the N-word so ur cred is sorta fucked

    with me anyway - i imagine some of the 85 will kiss u on the lips

    as for cnn's poll it basically means that we still have a somewhat divided country
    No it doesn't. It means a lot of people recognize that the state of the country is still not super positive as it's been in a recovery since the collapse heralded in by George W Bush.

    The people re-elected Obama, any attempt you're trying to make to say that the poll shows people deeply distrust Obama or his leadership fails pretty miserably on that basis alone.

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    Chance, I guess that qualifies as an "F".

    A divided country? Based on a poll? Na. I think Obama has more people on his side... and there are a few angry upset people that he got re-elected. Sour grapes.

    The people re-elected Obama by a solid margin. Accept it as it is.

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    The country is always divided on everything, That's how a two-party system works...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kayman23 View Post
    No Chance, tell us what you really feel about the President...made up numbers used by CNN isn't valid and results in an automatic 10 points off your final grade. Peer-reviewed journal articles and published dissertations are the only valid forms of empirical evidence allowed. Anything else, you get an automatic "F" for failure on your opinion-based memo on the President.
    So you only approve of polls that agree with your point of view?

    Let me guess ... you only watch and read "news" that also only agrees with your point of view.
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    I think if the poll had asked for party affiliation, it would have revealed that the ones who think the US is doing alright are predominately Democrat, saying so to support the President. Conversely, I think the nay-sayers were predominately Republican unhappy with the direction Obama wants to take us.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Country split on how things are going

    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    Hate is a word u throw around as often as u miss the bowl with your spray

    In this case posting a poll from CNN constitutes

    Hate is what u have in ur grinch like heart for the US - perhaps driven by envy

    You need to find some new material

    Really Chance? Really???

    You have nothing to come back with except guessing about my toilet habits?

    And your ridiculous and flimsy obsessively repeated assertion that by disagreeing with you that I hate the US?

    And I need to find new material?

    Pitiful Chance. Pitiful.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Country split on how things are going

    Quote Originally Posted by tigerfan482 View Post
    the survey was gauging how people view the current status of the country, not how people currently view the President.
    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    The poll's just basically "do you think the country's in a good state"... kind of just an opinion question.
    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    it wasn't a survey on how the President was doing
    From the poll:
    Do you approve or disapprove of the way Barack Obama is handling: (RANDOM ORDER)

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    I think if the poll had asked for party affiliation, it would have revealed that the ones who think the US is doing alright are predominately Democrat, saying so to support the President. Conversely, I think the nay-sayers were predominately Republican unhappy with the direction Obama wants to take us.
    From the poll:
    Among the entire sample, 34% described themselves as Democrats, 26% described themselves as Republicans, and 40% described themselves as Independents or members of another party.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    Really Chance? Really???

    You have nothing to come back with except guessing about my toilet habits?

    And your ridiculous and flimsy obsessively repeated assertion that by disagreeing with you that I hate the US?

    And I need to find new material?

    Pitiful Chance. Pitiful.
    Really truly

    Tired of you using the word hatred to describe reasonable disagreement

    So tired of it

    It's cheap and insincere

    And inaccurate

    So stop it please

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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    Really truly

    Tired of you using the word hatred to describe reasonable disagreement

    So tired of it

    It's cheap and insincere

    And inaccurate

    So stop it please
    Most of us are tired of your haiku, slander, and cognitively vacuous posts.

    So stop it, please.

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    ^^^

    Goes triple for you man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    ^^^

    Goes triple for you man.
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    The entire pantheon of deities knows that Kulindahr may very well be the kookiest person in this entire corner of JUB, but he's extremely intellectually vigorous and almost invariably on topic.

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    Re: CNN Poll: Country split on how things are going

    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    made up #s ?

    by CNN ?

    they make up #s?

    not sure what to make of your "to me" post - but i saw another post by u using the N-word so ur cred is sorta fucked

    with me anyway - i imagine some of the 85 will kiss u on the lips

    as for cnn's poll it basically means that we still have a somewhat divided country
    Dude, I don't give a flying fuck what you think of my "cred" because your posts are asinine at the very least. You couldn't win an argument with me with JSTOR at your disposal, so please pick up your sippy cup of STFU and take a big gulp on that note.

    CNN and their "polls", I'm not even going to explain what is wrong with that topic. Ask a couple of statisticians like Nate Silver, whom ironically lives in Manhattan (like yourself) why something like 1 poll isn't exactly a barometer of the political climate when you look at it as a stand alone...

    November 6th, 2012 was 2 months and 2 weeks ago, so LET IT GO...

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    ^ thanks for stopping by on your way to mars

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    Re: CNN Poll: Country split on how things are going

    Quote Originally Posted by Benvolio View Post
    I think if the poll had asked for party affiliation, it would have revealed that the ones who think the US is doing alright are predominately Democrat, saying so to support the President. Conversely, I think the nay-sayers were predominately Republican unhappy with the direction Obama wants to take us.
    The naysayers had their head buried in the sand... and they were voting for a party ticket (Romney/Ryan) that would have sent this country reeling into disaster.

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