President Obama's "Governing Style" - HOSTILITY

[palbert]

=chance1;8650940]more pearls from Peggy

What was remarkable about the president's news Boehner's conference Monday is that he didn't seem to think he had to mask his partisan rancor or be large-spirited. He bristled with unashamed hostility for Republicans on the Hill the President.

Slight correction for accuracy.

[chrisrobin]

more pearls from Peggy

Pearls of wisdom to the swine?

[GiancarloC]

more pearls from Peggy

More like right wing nonsense... maybe she should admit defeat... and give it a rest. What partisan rancor? And Republicans on the hill are the problem in this country right now and the reason many things don't get passed.

[Kulindahr]

It baffles me that Republicans pride themselves on calling a spade a spade, but when it comes to themselves, they don't like it. This leads to their embracing moral relativism, wanting their lies and hatred to be regarded as somehow worthy of inclusion in the governing process despite the fact that their policies, if implemented, would send us down a slide toward becoming a banana republic in short order.

Mitt Romney demonstrated that the GOP has a love affair with lies. Now Noonan is complaining that the President doesn't give those lies equal standing with the truth. Ironically, his failure in leadership isn't in failing to embrace obstructionists, it's in failing to go to the people to explain that the House Republicans are enemies of the country determined to get their way even if it destroys us all.

[JayHawk]

I am happy a Democrat actually has the support and the balls to be as shitty towards the other party as the republicans have been. If anything I despised the democratic party for being pussies. NO MORE!

[White Eagle]

I couldn't agree more!

Republican Speaker of the House Majority Leader Bohner, and Republican Senate Minority Leader McConnell are about as contemptable as they come.

Can anyone name anything that the *cough* Republican Leadership in Washington as done during the first four years of Obama's Presidency other than to say NO?

Regardless of Obama's attempts at compromise?

Then for Peggy Noonan to claim that the President hasn't show any "leadership?"

ME! ME! ME!

They named some Post Offices!

[JayHawk]

Leaders LEAD

And Haters hate.


Now that you (and I) have outlined what you and Barrack Obama will be doing during his second term can we move on?

lol

[White Eagle]

Hirohito was too ??? as was George

Another off - topic post.

[White Eagle]

Let's see, the WSJ is owned by Rupert Murdoch. Ya know those Faux Snooze people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NewsCorp

The company is controlled by Rupert Murdoch and his family members.

unlike progressive crazies who attack republicans personally

But more like chanc1 attacking the 80% here. Constantly with every post.

Contemptible partisanship, I like that. That explains much of what is going on in DC.

[chance1]

And Haters hate.


Now that you (and I) have outlined what you and Barrack Obama will be doing during his second term can we move on?

lol

I love "haters"

Half the country "hates" Obama I guess

Try to stay real

As for the Pres - his scorched earth approach is a loser

For all

Oh is that hateful ?

[chance1]

Another off - topic post.

Me and chrisrobin were playing

Ok ?

Are u still lying about me quoting brietbart ?

Yep

And play some

[chrisrobin]

I couldn't agree more!

Republican Speaker of the House Majority Leader Bohner, Boner and Republican Senate Minority Leader McConnell are about as contemptable as they come.

Do either of these guys really look contemptible?

[JayHawk]

I love "haters"

Half the country "hates" Obama I guess

Try to stay real

As for the Pres - his scorched earth approach is a loser

For all

Oh is that hateful ?

It is the same tone deaf ignorance that has cost the republican party the vast majority of their support. It is why the party as a whole stands at 26% approval.

It is also why intelligent conservatives like Joe Scarborough and Colin Powell no longer stand with the party of failure.

I guess our JUBbernauts are juggernauts of republican failure because you guys are unshakably partisan.

[chance1]

It is the same tone deaf ignorance that has cost the republican party the vast majority of their support. It is why the party as a whole stands at 26% approval.

It is also why intelligent conservatives like Joe Scarborough and Colin Powell no longer stand with the party of failure.

I guess our JUBbernauts are juggernauts of republican failure because you guys are unshakably partisan.

Have u seen Joe S lately ? Why are you telling half the story ?

The other half being that Obama's governing style sucks eggs

You should have that checked

the hearing problem

[JayHawk]

Have u seen Joe S lately ? Why are you telling half the story ?

The other half being that Obama's governing style sucks eggs

You should have that checked

the hearing problem

I watched this morning and most mornings. He states OVER and OVER and OVER that he would find it hard to be a part of the republican party. The difference between the two of you in your criticism is he is usually on point with a topic and doesn't merely attribute losing an argument to the obamallegiance. He actually grasp the heart of an issue and points out regularly how inadequate republican views on the subject are in the public while in private they admit easily the things we are all saying. Yet, just like your posting, the party is held hostage by wackos and tin foil hat conspiracy theories like Benghazi. I guess the republicans can learn of their ignorance because there is not a Algeria-gate (yet) but give them time and republicans will tie Obama to some Kenyan based Muslim hate of america that is at the heart of Obama and therefore had those hostages killed.

[chance1]

I watched this morning and most mornings. He states OVER and OVER and OVER that he would find it hard to be a part of the republican party. The difference between the two of you in your criticism is he is usually on point with a topic and doesn't merely attribute losing an argument to the obamallegiance. He actually grasp the heart of an issue and points out regularly how inadequate republican views on the subject are in the public while in private they admit easily the things we are all saying. Yet, just like your posting, the party is held hostage by wackos and tin foil hat conspiracy theories like Benghazi. I guess the republicans can learn of their ignorance because there is not a Algeria-gate (yet) but give them time and republicans will tie Obama to some Kenyan based Muslim hate of america that is at the heart of Obama and therefore had those hostages killed.

no he doesn't

he says that the current direction of the party is messed up - and most reasonable people agree

he believes in the principles and many of the current participants - in conservatism

so again your narrative is either wrong or willfully misleading

as for the diff between joe and me - that's irrelevant

as for your commentary about my posting i could give a shit as you've proven yourself to be a liar

and your rareboy like hatred refrain is pretty sad shit

[xbuzzerx]

Have u seen Joe S lately ? Why are you telling half the story ?

The other half being that Obama's governing style sucks eggs

You should have that checked

the hearing problem

You could say any President who has faced 270 filibusters "sucks at governing."

It wouldn't be accurate, but you could say it.

[GiancarloC]

You could say any President who has faced 270 filibusters "sucks at governing."

It wouldn't be accurate, but you could say it.

Obama has actually done very well governing considering the onslaught he has faced against the republicans, who are the ones who suck at governing. The House of Representatives is a big fucking joke.

[Jack Springer]

First of all -- Obama's popularity rating is at 50% -- the lowest ranking of any second term President in the January after the Presidential election in recent history. Please don't try to rewrite history.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/116479/ba...-approval.aspx

The article that Chance quoted gives direct quotes from President Obama in the days before his second Inauguration -- she points out that past Presidents have used this time to focus to well being, good feeling, and fellowship. Obama has done otherwise he used the time to be very aggressive to those people who don't agree with him.

I've read several articles about Obama plans to destroy the republican party, dividing it in half by the 2014 election. Why not lead instead.

Another huge lie mentioned often on CEP -- Sen. McConnell's quote about wanting Obama to be a one-term President was made on October 23, 2010 right before the off-year election and 2 years after Obama was elected President.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...83bf_blog.html

If you're a fair person -- compare the remarks made by Obama quoted in the Noonan article with the interview McConnell gave the National Journal in October, 2010.

McConnell also said in the article --

I don’t want the president to fail; I want him to change

Obama was still misquoting McConnell in 2012.

“When I first came into office, the head of the Senate Republicans said, ‘my number one priority is making sure president Obama’s a one-term president.’ Now, after the election, either he will have succeeded in that goal or he will have failed at that goal.”
— President Obama, interview on CBS’ “60 Minutes,” recorded on Sept. 12, 2012, and aired on Sept. 23

I think Peggy paints a very good image of the President in her article and his distain for people he doesn't like.

[xbuzzerx]

50% of a sitting President > 100% of someone who couldn't win an election.

[Jack Springer]

50% of a sitting President > 100% of someone who couldn't win an election.

He still has the lowest popularity of any re-elected President in recent US history -- a fact you cannot dispute.

[GiancarloC]

First of all -- Obama's popularity rating is at 50% -- the lowest ranking of any second term President in the January after the Presidential election in recent history. Please don't try to rewrite history.

Nope. Even republican leaning Rasmussen has Obama at 55-45%. And it's not the lowest ranking of any second term President. That's a falsehood.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._index_history

Other polls give him a 5-12% approval edge over disapproval.

The article that Chance quoted gives direct quotes from President Obama in the days before his second Inauguration -- she points out that past Presidents have used this time to focus to well being, good feeling, and fellowship. Obama has done otherwise he used the time to be very aggressive to those people who don't agree with him.

The people who don't agree with him are being aggressive and nasty themselves. He had to be forceful. Obama has negotiated and compromised way too much with those on the other side. Now it's time to play hard ball.

I've read several articles about Obama plans to destroy the republican party, dividing it in half by the 2014 election. Why not lead instead.

He is leading. Take it or leave it. He's lead this country through one of the worst recessions in history. And Obama plans? What does Obama have to do with an internal implosion in the GOP? The GOP are the ones committing infighting. As far as the debt deal Obama had to play hard ball because many millions were depending on him to force the republicans to fold. The entire well being of the country depended on Obama pushing through what was right. He got most of what he wanted. That is called being a leader in the face of a hostile opposition that sought to make him a one term president.

The hostility is apparent. Republicans would never accept him and hate him. They were trying to bring him down for four years and failed. FAILED MISERABLY.

Another huge lie mentioned often on CEP -- Sen. McConnell's quote about wanting Obama to be a one-term President was made on October 23, 2010 right before the off-year election and 2 years after Obama was elected President.

So? It's not a huge lie because people aren't mentioning the date. Mitch McConnell had that same hostility the moment Obama step foot into office. The entire republican party called him a failure weeks into his Presidency.

I think Peggy paints a very good image of the President in her article and his distain for people he doesn't like.

Peggy is lying to herself as far as Obama's governing style being hostility. He has been way too docile and many on this forum have criticized him for that, including myself. His first term, while he did accomplish a fair amount, was marked by being compromising and docile. Now he needs to step out of that shell and attack the nasty republican party for what is! A party of obstructionists who are still intent on bringing him down.

So I'm proud of the President growing a set of balls and standing up for himself... it's time for a confrontational approach in getting things done. The way Bill Clinton did it in the face of the asshole-ism of Newt Gingrich and his gang.

[GiancarloC]

He still has the lowest popularity of any re-elected President in recent US history -- a fact you cannot dispute.

No it's not. You're quite mistaken.

I think historical revisionism is evident here.

[xbuzzerx]

He still has the lowest popularity of any re-elected President in recent US history -- a fact you cannot dispute.

And Republicans lost the popular vote in 5 of the past 6 elections.

So what's your point?

[GiancarloC]

And Republicans lost the popular vote in 5 of the past 6 elections.

So what's your point?

There isn't a point. He'll cite Gallup. LMAO... Yes, cite Gallup to prove his point. A polling agency that was off by a major margin in election day and was one of the most INACCURATE in 2008, 2010 (midterms) and 2012 general election. Gallup is one of the worst, along with Fox News polling. I thought Nate Silver went through that one already

[TX-Beau]

Peggy Noonan? You mean the yapping head who whored her (LOOK AWAY CHANCE) CUNT out to the Bush admin? WMD Noonan? Noonan of the many ridiculous opinions (I'd say prevarications but that would make someone's head explode) Peggy of the war on reality, peggy of the don't-look-at-my-record-of-ridiculous-mistaken-positions-taken-because-I-was-riding Cheney's cock at the time Noonan?

Why the fuck do we care what she has to say about anything?

[Jack Springer]

No it's not. You're quite mistaken.

I think historical revisionism is evident here.

READ!!!!

http://www.gallup.com/poll/116479/ba...-approval.aspx

[gewhite3]

On inauguration night four years ago, pollster Frank Luntz organized a strategy session for leading Republicans at the Caucus Room, a steakhouse in downtown D.C. The widely reported dinner has become the creation myth of the Obama opposition, in which Luntz, former speaker Newt Gingrich, Reps. Eric Cantor (Va.), Paul Ryan (Wis.) and other leading Republican lawmakers from both chambers plotted how to confront the president. The Republicans giddily came away from the four-hour dinner with a plan to weaken Obama through blanket opposition. Also on their to-do list: wresting control of the House and Senate from Democrats and defeating Obama in 2012.

The plan to defeat Obama started around the time of his first inauguration:

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/wol...e-Constipation

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...712_story.html

I've included 2 links that basically say the same thing, but the quote I posted is from the Washington Post article. The Republicans have been complete jerks towards him since day one, and I hope he treats them like the dirt they are for the rest of his term. What comes around goes around. They sure can dish it out but cry like babies when it's their turn to suck it up.

[Jack Springer]

Peggy Noonan? You mean the yapping head who whored her (LOOK AWAY CHANCE) CUNT out to the Bush admin? WMD Noonan? Noonan of the many ridiculous opinions (I'd say prevarications but that would make someone's head explode) Peggy of the war on reality, peggy of the don't-look-at-my-record-of-ridiculous-mistaken-positions-taken-because-I-was-riding Cheney's cock at the time Noonan?

Why the fuck do we care what she has to say about anything?

No reason to respond with name calling and using vulgar words. It's not the focus of the thread and makes you look small.

[GiancarloC]

READ!!!!

http://www.gallup.com/poll/116479/ba...-approval.aspx

Gallup is garbage. I've already gone through this.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archive..._epic_fail.php - Read more here. They have to change their polling methods. Gallup was shit in 2008, it was shit in 2010 and it is again in 2012. Gallup over cites white voters and they've done it in their more recent polling too. And why should I believe what they say now?

READDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!

Does putting a word in bold and red prove a point? Nope.

Oh and looking more at that article it says the average for second term Presidents is 55% at this time. LOL. Obama has that in other more accurate polling.

[xbuzzerx]

I think the point is that Obama is a bad, bad, bad man and President.

But I return to what I said before.

50% of a sitting President > 100% of someone who couldn't get elected.

[tigerfan482]

Another huge lie mentioned often on CEP -- Sen. McConnell's quote about wanting Obama to be a one-term President was made on October 23, 2010 right before the off-year election and 2 years after Obama was elected President.

The sentiment was there when he was elected. Go ahead and find where Republican Senator Jim DeMint from South Carolina made his Waterloo comment. Get back to me when you find it, keeping in mind President Obama didn't start office until January 20, 2009.

I've read several articles about Obama plans to destroy the republican party, dividing it in half by the 2014 election. Why not lead instead.

Can you link to any of these articles? Are they merely opinion pieces or do they have actual quotes from the President? I think instead, the Republican Party is dividing itself in two and the President is just sitting back and watching it happen.

The other points have been well addressed by others.

[GiancarloC]

I really don't think Obama has to do anything to destroy the republican party. The republican party is doing that themselves.

[Rolyo85]

And EVEN if he does, he is still your president and will be so for the next 4 years. Bummer...

[xbuzzerx]

Four more years.

[TX-Beau]

No reason to respond with name calling and using vulgar words. It's not the focus of the thread and makes you look small.

I like vulgar words - pull your panties out of your asscrack, you're chafing. I believe the OP is ALL Peggy Noonan. You might be less confused about that if you would, you know:

READ

Why do I care what you think about me? LOL Poor Jack, so unappreciated.

I'll be nicer to her the moment she resurrects all the people who died in the war she shilled for.

[Jack Springer]

I'd say a backhoe was needed to dig your panties out of your ass crack.

[TX-Beau]

No reason to respond with name calling and using vulgar words. It's not the focus of the thread and makes you look small.

[chance1]

First of all -- Obama's popularity rating is at 50% -- the lowest ranking of any second term President in the January after the Presidential election in recent history. Please don't try to rewrite history.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/116479/ba...-approval.aspx

The article that Chance quoted gives direct quotes from President Obama in the days before his second Inauguration -- she points out that past Presidents have used this time to focus to well being, good feeling, and fellowship. Obama has done otherwise he used the time to be very aggressive to those people who don't agree with him.

I've read several articles about Obama plans to destroy the republican party, dividing it in half by the 2014 election. Why not lead instead.

Another huge lie mentioned often on CEP -- Sen. McConnell's quote about wanting Obama to be a one-term President was made on October 23, 2010 right before the off-year election and 2 years after Obama was elected President.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...83bf_blog.html

If you're a fair person -- compare the remarks made by Obama quoted in the Noonan article with the interview McConnell gave the National Journal in October, 2010.

McConnell also said in the article --

Obama was still misquoting McConnell in 2012.



I think Peggy paints a very good image of the President in her article and his distain for people he doesn't like.

Jack,

I hope you enjoyed your time away - perhaps a second voice will convince the lovelorn to open their minds and at least read the piece before the standard responses - you know we found this week evidence of responses w/o reading - imagine

you presented peggy's case very well - she simply outlines his words and actions in recent times - it's pretty basic stuff

he's being a hard ass and painting the repubs as enemies to the american people - not the time or the tone that's befitting of the office or the man

thanks jack

[CowboyBob]

I see the right wingers are busy patting each other on the back.

[Jack Springer]

Jack,

I hope you enjoyed your time away - perhaps a second voice will convince the lovelorn to open their minds and at least read the piece before the standard responses - you know we found this week evidence of responses w/o reading - imagine

you presented peggy's case very well - she simply outlines his words and actions in recent times - it's pretty basic stuff

he's being a hard ass and painting the repubs as enemies to the american people - not the time or the tone that's befitting of the office or the man

thanks jack

I had a very pleasant time away from CEP. You've done a great job pointing out Noonan's premise about the hostility of the President towards people who don't agree with him.

Too bad it was met with hostility from the 85% here on CEP.

No open or fair minds among the 85%.

[CowboyBob]

I had a very pleasant time away from CEP. You've done a great job pointing out Noonan's premise about the hostility of the President towards people who don't agree with him.

Too bad it was met with hostility from the 85% here on CEP.

No open or fair minds among the 85%.

Too bad it was met with hostility acceptance from the 15% here on CEP

No open or fair minds among the 15%.

Keep giving each others blow jobs, fellows.

[chance1]

I see the right wingers are busy patting each other on the back.

are you jealous Bob ? how was your day ? did u yell on your porch at any walmart shoppers today?

as for jack - he's good peeps - as u know deep down

and i thought his overview of the argument was swell

i'm guessing u didn't care for it

peggy is concerned that at this critical time, a president more interested in uniting vs. dividing would serve the country better

i'm sure u agree

[Rolyo85]

perhaps a second voice will convince the lovelorn to open their minds and at least read the piece before the standard responses

Yes, because you are such shining examples of open minds, and it was just that only one of you was posting, but now that there's - gasp - TWO of you, minds will change with momentous results!

Are you done giving each other the Dutch Rudder btw? It's a little embarrassing to watch.

[Rolyo85]

peggy is concerned that at this critical time, a president more interested in uniting vs. dividing would serve the country better

Sadly, neither yours, nor Peggy's concerns were taken into account by the American people, and you are both stuck with this evil, divisive, gay-loving Kenyan Muslim from Hell. For - wait for it - four more years!

[palbert]

Jack Springer and Chance1: a veritable lovefest.

[TX-Beau]

Evidently Chance has swallowed ....something.

Peggy is interested in resurrecting herself from irrelevance.

[CowboyBob]

Sadly, neither yours, nor Peggy's concerns were taken into account by the American people, and you are both stuck with this evil, divisive, gay-loving Kenyan Muslim from Hell. For - wait for it - four more years!

FOUR MORE YEARS of President Obama and you can sleep well tonight knowing unhealthy loudmouth Chris Christie will never be President. The Koch brothers will spend a couple hundred million trying to install him in office but they'll be throwing their money down the drain like they did when they tried to buy the Presidency / VP for Loser Romney and his lap dog Lyin' brown noser Ryan.

[xbuzzerx]

Today is OBVIOUSLY nothing but an extended temper tantrum left over from the election and determined to throw as much muck and unhappiness as possible today, so, since no actual discussion is going on anywhere:

[chance1]

Evidently Chance has swallowed ....something.

Peggy is interested in resurrecting herself from irrelevance.

my swallowing not withstanding

peggy is doing pretty damn well - check it - columnist for wsj - syndicated columnist - guest on cable news sun programs

please at least do a little homework before throwing rocks at her under false pretense

think jack nicholson - tom cruise - flight logs

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