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    Re: Not Born This Way

    Well, in the cases of twins living together, they share their life pretty much entirely. If one has no trouble being out, the other has no reason to hide either, and if they specifically choose to participate in a study - which, you may have heard, is not a mandatory thing - one should assume they aren't lying. What's the point? If you aren't comfortable with it, just don't participate.

    This is just a silly argument.
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    Re: Not Born This Way

    Quote Originally Posted by MVincent View Post
    I claimed no such thing, and I propose nothing.

    I simply stated one of the reasons why you can't prove with 100% certainty that environment plays a role in determining homosexuality, by using identical twins with discordantly professed sexualities. It may just be evidence of the environmental factors determining honesty, or security, or shame.

    The 1991 Bailey/Pallard study may have concluded that only 52% of monozygotic twins were both homosexual... or it may simply be evidence that around 24% of gay people tend to be closeted.
    To me it's a very large stretch to assume that somewhere in the vicinity of 40-50% of all identical twins who have a gay twin could also themselves be gay but are in the closet about it, and that this percentage would show up in most of the studies they've done.

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    Re: Not Born This Way

    Why ask why tho?

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    Re: Not Born This Way

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    To me it's a very large stretch to assume that somewhere in the vicinity of 40-50% of all identical twins who have a gay twin could also themselves be gay but are in the closet about it, and that this percentage would show up in most of the studies they've done.
    Agreed. It's a far stretch.

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