Morning Joe - Daily Thread

[chance1]

Seems to me that Morning Joe is probably one of the few TV shows that the majority of those who watch from CE+P enjoy - or at least can tolerate

I DVR every day - try to catch some of the show in the AM or that night or whenever - lately not doing as well

Anyway I thought it would be a good idea to do this where people can post things they saw/heard and perhaps converse about it

I'm watching this am's now and Joe is apologizing to Mika for going off on her recently - I missed it

I gather they were discussing the Obama cabinet and Mike said something to the effect that Joe was chauvinistic - Joe says "he went to a dark place" He's making NY Resolutions btw

1 - he won't blow up at Mika ever again
2 - he's going to try to interrupt Mika less
3 - next time to the WH, he's not going to poop in his pants

I love Morning Joe - such a good show


http://www.mediaite.com/tv/joe-scarb...nistic-remark/

[chance1]

they're discussing colin powell's sunday am diatribe against the republican party as out of touch

joe is upset that he's considered a "moderate" as if that's a dirty word

mike barnacle is ripping lindsey graham as a former moderate voice who is now concerned about being re-elected so he's more of a right wing ideologue

where's willie giest ? love him

where's mark halperin? love him

joe is calling the far right republicans "idiots"

says they didn't really know the man they revere - Ronald Reagan - who was a pragmatist not an ideologue

says that Colin Powell could help the Republicans out - but instead they loathe him

[JayHawk]

I think the apology is from last weeks episode where Joe lost his fucking marbles because Mika said she thought Joe was being a Chauvinist. Joe literally used the remainder of the time slot acting upset and then when they came back from commercial he wasted an entire time slot just acting childish about it. They literally cut to break in about half the normal time and when they returned both Mika and Joe were not on the show until the end of the day and then only Mika returned. It was obvious he had an episode of how righteous he was and how unfair it was for someone to suggest he was incorrect in his thinking. Joe is incredibly intelligent and fails to accept criticism easily.

He actually made me think of you TBQH. His sabotage of several time slots just to pout was similar in many ways. To be fair I am just as pigheaded but as my Siggie says... "I am trying"

[chance1]

^ haha

did u just compliment me or diss me ?

i'm not sure and i don't care

i liked it

hehe

totally agree on joe btw - he seems to be going thru a wee bit of a mid-life crisis

wonder if he's ever gone down on mika

barnacle is the best on the panel "pound for pound"

it's like he doesn't say a ton but it's always good

joe has more a "volume play"

sam stein really turns me on but do his lips move when he speaks?

[JayHawk]

TBH I kind of despise Barnacle. He is smart but amazingly boring which makes me wonder how he is a news entity. I usually get more from the guests. That show has a great behind the scenes vibe. Ever notice the next up who are waiting in the wings are usually smiling and comfortable being there. I think that leads to better interviews.

The best I have seen recently was Spielberg talking Lincoln and then the concepts of movie making, research and the current view of "Zero Dark Thirty". Spielberg then turns it back onto today's inept politicians without really saying a word about them and their current dysfunctional methods. It was a fascinating comparison.

And for you it wasn't a compliment or a slight. You just have a tendency to NEVER let go and move on when someone slights you and it distracts from an evolving conversation.

[chance1]

TBH I kind of despise Barnacle. He is smart but amazingly boring which makes me wonder how he is a news entity. I usually get more from the guests. That show has a great behind the scenes vibe. Ever notice the next up who are waiting in the wings are usually smiling and comfortable being there. I think that leads to better interviews.

The best I have seen recently was Spielberg talking Lincoln and then the concepts of movie making, research and the current view of "Zero Dark Thirty". Spielberg then turns it back onto today's inept politicians without really saying a word about them and their current dysfunctional methods. It was a fascinating comparison.

And for you it wasn't a compliment or a slight. You just have a tendency to NEVER let go and move on when someone slights you and it distracts from an evolving conversation.

we are different

barnacle has heart - he has soul - he's real - he never mugs for the camera which i like about him - often he seems tired on the set as if getting up that early is a chore - his take on warren/brown and his knowledge of the every county in massachusetts i thought was gold

i agree about the vibe thing - it's clear to me that they all sorta like each other - they poke fun - they talk about sports - it's jocular w/o being mindless - sometimes they go off on a tangent and u can see mika is the only one pissed - although she seems to have chilled for the better IMO

sorta reminds me of howard stern in that people who it appears are very uninteresting - or not so interesting - howard brings out the best

donald trump is an absolute boor - on howard he's gold

steve rattner is deathly dull - on Morning Joe he's not only got a pulse but a personality

i wish they would jettison donny deutsch - i know people who have worked for him - major DICK

and in the spirit of agreement ....... hehe

[nycguydowntown]

Love the show---and OMG--for the first time ever agree with all your takes on everyone (especially Howard)---except that if Joe spends one more year living in Manhattan and reading the Times---he should become a Blue Dog Dem as the GOP is no place for a guy with his kind of common sense.

[rareboy]

Actually, there seems to still be some real tension there between Mika and Joe.

I think that some real damage was done last week by him behaving like a three year old with a grab bag of emotions. they now remind me of a married couple who have lost some of the trust they had in one another and now look ready to jump at the least provocation, or in Mika's case..to just be slightly dismissive.

We still catch them every morning though.

[frankfrank]

He's making NY Resolutions btw

What are New York resolutions?

No, New Year's of course, lol.

I didn't even think to have MJ (or anything else) on right now - unusual for me - and I don't have an issue with that show, not at all. MJ is a lot closer to balanced than all but a handful of other shows on the cable "news" channels.

[andysayshi]

I don't watch the show (don't think it's broadcast in Australia) but caught the offending segment on YouTube.



Joe was a jerk. He was being the petty, rude, dismissive guy that deserves to be called out for chauvinism. He talked and laughed with the other guy while the BBC woman was speaking. He had some fair points, but they were lost in his brash behaviour.

[chance1]

^ Joe has come a long way ............. and is a whole lot better than when he started ........ with much room for improvement

Joe opened the show with the NY Daily News "Appy Anniversary" - an NRA app that allows young children to use assault weapons on an iPhone app - OMG

Joe says the NRA has been commandeered and turned into a company FOR SURVIVALISTS only

Harold Ford on the panel - NRA supporter - Joe says in the mid 1990's it changed

Joe says the polls are shifting away from the NRA due to their actions since Sandy Hook

Polls in:
58% support ban on assault weapons - 39 opposed
it's "upside down" says Joe - due to NRA extremism

88% support background checks at gun shows before purchase

"buying guns is not the issue" says Harold Ford

Mika thinks the "rush on guns" is crazy - she's beside herself

65% support ban on high capacity ammunition clips

so much for no commentary on gun control

[chance1]

Willie Geist wonders why no one followed Dem. senator WV Joe Manchin when he came out right after SH saying "time for change"

[andysayshi]

Joe looks like Matthew Perry's older brother.

[chance1]

Joe is ripping Obama a new asshole for his absurd finger wagging at Republicans re: the debt ceiling suggesting that the Republicans are to blame

that Pres. Obama has not done a thing to reduce entitlement spending

that the Pres. is in no position to suggest the Republicans are "reckless"

that the President has done NOTHING to curb the costs of programs that will ruin this country

he's ripping "word is out" harry reid for NO leadership and NON BUDGET

BOOM !!!

[chance1]

Joe looks like Matthew Perry's older brother.

LOL



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[Jack Springer]

I don't watch the show (don't think it's broadcast in Australia) but caught the offending segment on YouTube.



Joe was a jerk. He was being the petty, rude, dismissive guy that deserves to be called out for chauvinism. He talked and laughed with the other guy while the BBC woman was speaking. He had some fair points, but they were lost in his brash behaviour.

Mika is lucky to have a job on the show. If it weren't for her short skirts, good looks, and hot body she'd be reading news on Current TV or working as a receptionist for slimy Donnie Douche.

Mika continually promotes Obama as supportive of women's issues and totally was off base supporting all the fact that Obama has not appointed any new women to his cabinet. Joe was right to give her a hard time.

The British reporter chick is not a good journalist -- she's 100% pro-Obama.

.... but I still watch when I can.

[maxpowr9]

^I always assumed Mika was Joe's concubine.

[chance1]

I like Mika ........ and think her role on the show is critical

[Jack Springer]

She balances things out for sure but I think she's mostly there for eye candy and to provide a liberal balance to the two show hosts.

I don't dislike her. I like Mika much better than the blonde chick on Fox & Friends. I liked E.D. Hill who was the previous female host on Fox & Friends.

[chance1]

She balances things out for sure but I think she's mostly there for eye candy and to provide a liberal balance to the two show hosts.

I don't dislike her. I like Mika much better than the blonde chick on Fox & Friends. I liked E.D. Hill who was the previous female host on Fox & Friends.

Jack - you're channelling "bad Joe" now

what's with the "chick" reference ?? what are you gonna pick her up ? i thought u liked cock? hehe

I think like Joe Mika has grown - and that the others treat her MUCH better than they used to

sure there's no question she's very much underwater for the President BUT .......... it is MSNBC ya know

I like Megan Kelly

hubba hubba

[rareboy]

She balances things out for sure but I think she's mostly there for eye candy and to provide a liberal balance to the two show hosts.

I don't dislike her. I like Mika much better than the blonde chick on Fox & Friends. I liked E.D. Hill who was the previous female host on Fox & Friends.

Oh Jack.


This is a man who apparently can't utter the word cunt and gets all up in our faces about disrespect for women...but has no problem dismissing Mika as eye candy and calling women 'chicks'.

righhhhhhhhhhhhhht......

[chrisrobin]

Joe is ripping Obama a new asshole for his absurd finger wagging at Republicans re: the debt ceiling suggesting that the Republicans are to blame

BOOM !!!

BOOM!!!

[rareboy]

How about more like....

[andysayshi]

Did something change in 2009?

[chance1]

BOOM!!!

Imitation is .......

But THE POINT is that the President hasn't a leg to stand on with his campaign mode finger wag due to his lack of credibility as a fiscally sound anything

He talks and talks and talks

No leadership on fiscal matters unless they involve

Taxes

BOOM !!!!

Obama as a cost cutter - he'd rather do a backdoor cut to the hoop

[chance1]

Oh Jack.


This is a man who apparently can't utter the word cunt and gets all up in our faces about disrespect for women...but has no problem dismissing Mika as eye candy and calling women 'chicks'.

righhhhhhhhhhhhhht......

Silly boy

Chick is an old school term

Cunt is something else quite again

You're not very good with the analogies

At least not ones that rate

Missed Joe this am - will get some fix later

[Jack Springer]

Oh Jack.


This is a man who apparently can't utter the word cunt and gets all up in our faces about disrespect for women...but has no problem dismissing Mika as eye candy and calling women 'chicks'.

righhhhhhhhhhhhhht......

Isn't this what you call faux outrage?

[Jack Springer]

Jack - you're channelling "bad Joe" now

what's with the "chick" reference ?? what are you gonna pick her up ? i thought u liked cock? hehe

I think like Joe Mika has grown - and that the others treat her MUCH better than they used to

sure there's no question she's very much underwater for the President BUT .......... it is MSNBC ya know

I like Megan Kelly

hubba hubba

I like women as well.


.... I'm sure that will go over well on here. Better get ready for more nasty PM's.

[White Eagle]

Joe IS a chauvinistic jerk!

[rareboy]

Isn't this what you call faux outrage?

Oh there's no outrage at all..Couldn't you hear the sigh behind the 'Oh Jack'?

But if you and Chance think of women as chicks...that is okay.

[rareboy]

Imitation is .......

But THE POINT is that the President hasn't a leg to stand on with his campaign mode finger wag due to his lack of credibility as a fiscally sound anything

He talks and talks and talks

No leadership on fiscal matters unless they involve

Taxes

BOOM !!!!

Obama as a cost cutter - he'd rather do a backdoor cut to the hoop

Just own up to the fact that you have nothing when it comes to this whole issue.

Now you want to make it about leadership. Earlier it was about Joe ripping Obama a new one.

Why is it again that Obama has to show leadership on the debt ceiling but BushCo. and the Republicans did not?

[xbuzzerx]

Imitation is .......

But THE POINT is that the President hasn't a leg to stand on with his campaign mode finger wag due to his lack of credibility as a fiscally sound anything

He talks and talks and talks

No leadership on fiscal matters unless they involve

Taxes

BOOM !!!!

Obama as a cost cutter - he'd rather do a backdoor cut to the hoop

You are KIDDING right?

Obama lacks the credibility for sound fiscal decisions to "deserve" an increase in the debt ceiling-- COMPARED TO BUSH?!

Are you trying to go into comedy now?

[Sausy]

Why do you even try chance, when it comes to these people? President Obama as Senator Obama was talking like the GOP hardliners back then, even came strongly out for presidental leadership on the debt issue, tearing Bush down on his performance. I'll take chance than all the know it alls on the left who will never concede a point or seriously discuss an issue other than to point to arguments favorable to their ideological self-certitude and of course, condescendingly( but lovingly) pooh pooing anything to the contrary.

It would be nice to get back on topic, so I shall.... not so much a morning person so I haven't seen Joe much since he was pushed out of their primetime lineup(oh joy...unhinged with a nice serving of snark followed by more unhinged, and that's even after Olbermann exited, stage left!) but I guess I have to tape it sometimes, far more fair and balanced than the prime time shows on either Fox or MSNBC. Joe's got a bit of an edge but at least he's trying to really be independent from other talkers on the right. Maybe there's part of him that is kind of upset that he has to have Mika as a counterbalance of some sort, as he was always very compellingby himself in prime time, though it seems the morning shows always work better with more than one host. I don't think he's a jerk, compared to the other egos on the network he's sensible and at least capable of introspection and open minded.

[Jack Springer]

^^

Obama doesn't like anyone that doesn't agree with him. His attitude during his speech today showed his disgust and anger towards anyone who didn't agree with "his common sense". Like it or not republicans have the majority in the House -- he has to deal with it.

Obama sees Congress as an obstacle ... an unnecessary burden ... rather than a partner in our three branches of government.

Obama needs to get of his superiority complex, roll up his sleeves and start to solve the country's problems. Our economy is still in shambles, people have been without work for record lengths, the economy is stagnant.

The campaign is over -- he won -- now time to lead.

Maybe he needs to attend one of those weekend leadership seminars at the local Holiday Inn.

[xbuzzerx]

Why do you even try chance, when it comes to these people? President Obama as Senator Obama was talking like the GOP hardliners back then, even came strongly out for presidental leadership on the debt issue, tearing Bush down on his performance. I'll take chance than all the know it alls on the left who will never concede a point or seriously discuss an issue other than to point to arguments favorable to their ideological self-certitude and of course, condescendingly( but lovingly) pooh pooing anything to the contrary.

It would be nice to get back on topic, so I shall.... not so much a morning person so I haven't seen Joe much since he was pushed out of their primetime lineup(oh joy...unhinged with a nice serving of snark followed by more unhinged, and that's even after Olbermann exited, stage left!) but I guess I have to tape it sometimes, far more fair and balanced than the prime time shows on either Fox or MSNBC. Joe's got a bit of an edge but at least he's trying to really be independent from other talkers on the right. Maybe there's part of him that is kind of upset that he has to have Mika as a counterbalance of some sort, as he was always very compellingby himself in prime time, though it seems the morning shows always work better with more than one host. I don't think he's a jerk, compared to the other egos on the network he's sensible and at least capable of introspection and open minded.

We don't take the notion that Bush, the largest spender in U.S. history, whom the Republicans raised the debt ceiling for multiple times, to be credible recent backdrop from which to even remotely believe the concept that Republicans are saying no to Obama because of his fiscal irresponsibility.

Nor should we. There's no reason to accept such an illogical claim. Call that everything you'd like to, the position you're defending makes no sense whatsoever and no one with a brain should take it seriously.

[chrisrobin]

Obama sees Congress as an obstacle ... an unnecessary burden ... rather than a partner in our three branches of government.

The obstructiionist Congress is the obstacle.

Q. When LBJ was president, how many filibusters were there?
A. One

Q. When Barack Hussein Obama was president (his first term) how many filibusters were there?
A. Over 270.

How does one become "a partner in our three branches of government" when branch #1 wants to make you a one-term president?

[Jack Springer]

^^

What the difference? LBJ understood how to work with Congress, Obama doesn't even want to try.

[xbuzzerx]

^^

What the difference? LBJ understood how to work with Congress, Obama doesn't even want to try.

How do you try with a Congress that filibusters you 270 times?

[Rolyo85]

^^

Obama doesn't like anyone that doesn't agree with him. His attitude during his speech today showed his disgust and anger towards anyone who didn't agree with "his common sense". Like it or not republicans have the majority in the House -- he has to deal with it.

Obama sees Congress as an obstacle ... an unnecessary burden ... rather than a partner in our three branches of government.

Obama needs to get of his superiority complex, roll up his sleeves and start to solve the country's problems. Our economy is still in shambles, people have been without work for record lengths, the economy is stagnant.

The campaign is over -- he won -- now time to lead.

Maybe he needs to attend one of those weekend leadership seminars at the local Holiday Inn.

My god, do you even read your posts after you write them? What sort of discussion is this? His attitude showed disgust and anger toward people who disagreed with him? What is this? How inane can an analysis of a situation get? Superiority complex, disdain, arrogance... Do you also hate his shoe color? Twelve year olds write more mature opinions on politics.

[Jack Springer]

My god, do you even read your posts after you write them? What sort of discussion is this? His attitude showed disgust and anger toward people who disagreed with him? What is this? How inane can an analysis of a situation get? Superiority complex, disdain, arrogance... Do you also hate his shoe color? Twelve year olds write more mature opinions on politics.

Maybe you need to reread what I wrote.

[Rolyo85]

I don't wanna get small and petty on me. It'll ruin my shirt.

[chance1]

Oh there's no outrage at all..Couldn't you hear the sigh behind the 'Oh Jack'?

But if you and Chance think of women as chicks...that is okay.

i don't think of women as chicks - i actually gave Jack some grief on it - feel free to read - apparently the first time - sorta the minimum requirement before typing your erroneous bullshit

it appears you "called it" again - wrong

get some rest will ya ?

[Jack Springer]

Ok, I'll try not to call women chicks anymore to please rareboy --- don't want him offend him.

Rolyo85 ... small and petty stains cover your complete wardrobe.

[JayHawk]

Yet again another decent thread turned into a purse fight.

BTW that is a chauvinistic statement that positions women as imbecilic argument starters with no real grasp of anything to say. Kinda like making the co-host of Morning Joe to be the eye candy whilst the ** cough cough ** MEN have the real discussion. Can definitely see the small minded influence of 'Mizzoorii' in that post.... jeebus.

[Rolyo85]

Rolyo85 ... small and petty stains cover your complete wardrobe.

I know I keep responding to you, when I should keep the hell away...

[rareboy]

i don't think of women as chicks - i actually gave Jack some grief on it - feel free to read - apparently the first time - sorta the minimum requirement before typing your erroneous bullshit

it appears you "called it" again - wrong

get some rest will ya ?

So you start out by explaining to us that 'aw shucks guys...chick is just an old school term'......whatever...

I notice that you don't respond to the post that points out that you have nothing on the issue about the debt ceiling.

We assume that you are conceding defeat and admitting that Joe was also wrong in castigating Obama for pointing at the Republicans as being the ones that are at fault here.

[Jack Springer]

I know I keep responding to you, when I should keep the hell away...

I'm no where near you man -- the Internet is a shield ... the stains have to be from you.

[Jack Springer]

Yet again another decent thread turned into a purse fight.

BTW that is a chauvinistic statement that positions women as imbecilic argument starters with no real grasp of anything to say. Kinda like making the co-host of Morning Joe to be the eye candy whilst the ** cough cough ** MEN have the real discussion. Can definitely see the small minded influence of 'Mizzoorii' in that post.... jeebus.

... and the purpose of your post? Slamming me.

Something I'd expect from someone who lives in an all white enclave ... except for a few professional physicians, lawyers, and sports figures.

Red, skinny legged, imaginary birds are not real MEN.

[JayHawk]

... and the purpose of your post? Slamming me.

Something I'd expect from someone who lives in an all white enclave ... except for a few professional physicians, lawyers, and sports figures.

Red, skinny legged, imaginary birds are not real MEN.

That is funny. Truly. That you find an obsessiveness in the hate for mythical sports mascots to which I have no link whatsoever. I leave it to your mind to work through why I am called Jay Hawk that has nothing to do with Kansas - and never has.

That aside I guarantee Overland Park is by far more diverse than a city like say Harrisonville. You know as a relative example of rural Missouri demographics.

Lets just use the good ole internets and work it out...mmmmkay?

Harrisonville:

The racial makeup of the city was 95.0% White, 1.1% African American, 0.7% Native American, 0.6% Asian, 0.8% from other races, and 1.7% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 2.6% of the population.

And didn't you tell us that you were not white so we were all wrong about your race assumptions.... so if you were not lying... which I doubt .....then congrats on living with that other 95% racial diversity...lol. It must broaden your horizon.

Overland Park:

The racial makeup of the city was 84.4% White, 4.3% African American, 0.3% American Indian, 6.3% Asian, 2.1% from other races, and 2.5% from two or more races. Hispanics and Latinos of any race were 6.3% of the population.[6]

SO while Overland park is barely more ethnic than Harrisonville I would wager that the Ethiopian, Thai, Indian, TexMex, Authentic Mexican and Italian heritage in the area is a damn sight more diverse. In fact, the multitude of ethnic choices in the area are the reasoning among others for choosing this spot among all of the ignorant backwater choices in Missouri and Kansas. I also live between a Synagogue and a Mosque. How many of those in your area Jacky Poo?

A guy from rural Missouri calling anywhere else on earth out for lacking in racial diversity. You are always giving me a great laugh Jack. Thanks for making me feel so good about my life.

And yes I called you out because this thread was actually rather civil and productive until you popped in with the same old fucking drivel that you post in every thread. It is rather tiring, uninformed and lacking logic. But it is definitely your right to post it. Just as it is my right to say it lacks any value whatsoever.

[Jack Springer]

^^^

Dude - I do not or have ever lived in Harrisonville or the county where Harrisonville is located.

You're doing a poor job of spying.

Lots of rambling also ... too bad there is nothing available OTC for diarrhea of the mouth.




Back to Morning Joe --- I missed it this morning.