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    Re: Help me understand something, why do poor people take pride in being picky?

    Quote Originally Posted by borg69unimatrix View Post
    I think your friends were just scared they'd be obligated to return the favor and take you out somewhere.
    nah I think they are thinking that he's a twat and a someone who use used to be a friend and he invited me out to a nice dinner but he kept looking at what I was ordering.

    hopefully his "poor" friends know that he is not a friend.




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    Re: Help me understand something, why do poor people take pride in being picky?

    of course -poverty- becum culture it all is got

    no stop cultures of ups feedin off it wit out any question

    angain wot is poverty
    ans wot his affulent?
    !st worlds suap dicktionarys ans Co in world ova eva check words they spit out media etc so o woteva any century? or it a for purpose ta etc so etc?

    no land playin nation on planet earth is modern or medievel or backward or supa no 1 is all still fallin ova owns shit dress up as progress

    ans mac donald as much a child find pretty wot is a good meal by it self even it throw away
    by it ways of plastic ans interiors ways remove human out ans robot in
    wot no just mac donald of usa wot may fit so a limited culture wot so easy side line humans fit da day
    expensive restaurants etc play anoda way wot is no news ans da poeple sniff about in um in all lands
    otda lands see so a thang of cultures so press down their skulls ans go coooooor
    but from top down they same a way ans round ans round

    yes this rush job

    sayin obvious soooooooooooooooooooooo amaizn

    anyway

    if a op go say

    hey ma mates wot not so full cash keep choose wot a like ans no can affords it? wot do?

    not place littul mines wot is WHY POOR FOLK PICKY or dead end jobs or etc so on


    ans if it about food it about food not money

    ansaskin question already assume anyone read it got be affluent ans eat anythang?

    make dizzy it do

    anyway

    is this babbullins or talkin ta brick wall?
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    Re: Help me understand something, why do poor people take pride in being picky?

    Quote Originally Posted by SLOPPYSECONDS View Post
    of course -poverty- becum culture it all is got

    no stop cultures of ups feedin off it wit out any question

    angain wot is poverty
    ans wot his affulent?
    !st worlds suap dicktionarys ans Co in world ova eva check words they spit out media etc so o woteva any century? or it a for purpose ta etc so etc?

    no land playin nation on planet earth is modern or medievel or backward or supa no 1 is all still fallin ova owns shit dress up as progress

    ans mac donald as much a child find pretty wot is a good meal by it self even it throw away
    by it ways of plastic ans interiors ways remove human out ans robot in
    wot no just mac donald of usa wot may fit so a limited culture wot so easy side line humans fit da day
    expensive restaurants etc play anoda way wot is no news ans da poeple sniff about in um in all lands
    otda lands see so a thang of cultures so press down their skulls ans go coooooor
    but from top down they same a way ans round ans round

    yes this rush job

    sayin obvious soooooooooooooooooooooo amaizn

    anyway

    if a op go say

    hey ma mates wot not so full cash keep choose wot a like ans no can affords it? wot do?

    not place littul mines wot is WHY POOR FOLK PICKY or dead end jobs or etc so on


    ans if it about food it about food not money

    ansaskin question already assume anyone read it got be affluent ans eat anythang?

    make dizzy it do

    anyway

    is this babbullins or talkin ta brick wall?
    * wall again *

    ha well

    thankyou
    honesly............stop being a twat.




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    Quote Originally Posted by PreTTy PeTe View Post
    honesly............stop being a twat.
    you a god too ?

    coor so man in world

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    Re: Help me understand something, why do poor people take pride in being picky?

    Quote Originally Posted by Telstra View Post
    You guys should answer his questions rather than attack the Poster.
    If a question contains a logical fallacy then it doesn't deserve to be answered. especially when it has offensive implications

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    Re: Help me understand something, why do poor people take pride in being picky?

    logical fallacy is top !st world ways

    so great populations of everythang world ova get start on askin da questions wehre it matta!
    unless choice option
    folk die anyway
    so wot point

    hi world leadurs of gods nice day

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    Re: Help me understand something, why do poor people take pride in being picky?

    Quote Originally Posted by animalius View Post
    I apologize to those I've offended in this thread. I meant no disrespect to the less fortunate.

    Perhaps my observations are flawed by confirmation bias. I'm not discounting that.
    That's very good of you to admit. I'm guessing you meant why are broke people so picky. That can still get you in trouble, but you don't have to be poor to be broke.
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    Re: Help me understand something, why do poor people take pride in being picky?

    Quote Originally Posted by animalius View Post
    I apologize to those I've offended in this thread. I meant no disrespect to the less fortunate.

    Perhaps my observations are flawed by confirmation bias. I'm not discounting that.
    it kool it kind ya cum back ya topic

    less fortunate is anoda fallacy be it case fa many by 1st world measure ans ways make so wot no need in any century

    planet earth is only home folk got even it just da dirt live on

    UN got lot work rethinkin wot is UN

    anyway

    is a hope ya mates ans you work sumthang out pay fa bite eat

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    Re: Help me understand something, why do poor people take pride in being picky?

    Quote Originally Posted by animalius View Post
    To be fair, I've been broke before and I've been dirt poor as well. And at no time have I said ALL poor people are picky. What I said was from my observations over the years (that's probably tainted by confirmation bias), poor people tend to be pickier than the more affluent.

    Of course there are exceptions. My "girlfriend" grew up in a very well off house hold. She won't even touch indian food with a 10 foot pole. Only recently after started dating an indian guy did she start forcing herself to eat indian food.

    In other words, I do realize that if my observations were true, it would still not apply to everyone.

    Some people here have offered great insights. For example, my ex. Probably the pickiest person I know. Always broke all the time. He would get upset when I take us out for anything other than McDonalds. No, I'm not exaggerating. It took me a long time to figure this out. He would always get upset after we dined out. Never told me why. Turned out McDonalds was the only thing he liked.

    I can see how what I'm saying would get myself in trouble because of the politically incorrect nature of it. But I've never been a politically correct kind of guy anyway.
    In my experience, wealthy people are on average more open to new experiences than poor people. If you're wealthy and you go out for dinner, you can have something out of the ordinary because if you don't like it, there's always dinner tomorrow at a different restaurant. If you're poor, you don't have the same margin for error. One dinner out and that blows through your restaurant budget for the next six months. The next year?

    That is true of things other than food as well. When you can get what you want, and when you can afford to change your mind as often as you like, it is a powerful lesson in the value of variety and change. Look up "satisficing" to explain the behaviour of poorer people.

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    Re: Help me understand something, why do poor people take pride in being picky?

    Quote Originally Posted by G-Lexington View Post
    We've occasionally taken these friends to places that we wouldn't think are too "out there" - like a Middle Eastern restaurant - and found them out of their depth. They not only don't know the food or "how to order", they seem very uncomfortable having to ask or being forced to try something they've never tried before.
    Did they end up liking the food?

    I only ask because I've been in this very same situation a few times. I admit that I'm not an adventurous eater but I'll still occasionally try new things. I can understand how it could be perceived that I was uncomfortable, but the reality was I just hated the experience and couldn't wait to leave. I just didn't want to hurt their feelings after they spent so much time trying to talk the place up.

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    Re: Help me understand something, why do poor people take pride in being picky?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kien View Post
    I just want my $7.49 large bowl of Pho. danx
    Oh god yes. Bring me.

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    Re: Help me understand something, why do poor people take pride in being picky?

    I am a little bit picky about what I eat and I know others who are also. I never noticed whether or not there is any economic correlation. People who are more open minded or who are more socially mobile might try something new, but after that they would probably develope a preference or dislike of what they tried.

    This thread brought to mind something I recently heard about. Someone I know of who is recently unemployed went to a food bank and was given some food. They could not choose what they were given but were just given a bag of food. There were some items in the bag which they did not care for so they passed them on to my sister to use and not waste, but my sister is adequately employed. She was somehwat chagrined because she donates to a food bank for the poor and thought that it wouldn't be right for the donations to be used by someone who is employed. She passed the items on to another food bank to give out.

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    Re: Help me understand something, why do poor people take pride in being picky?

    Quote Originally Posted by AshyPhoenix View Post
    I'm poor as dirt. Over the last week, I've consumed less than 3500 calories. This is because all I have in my cupboard is tomato soup (which I literally cannot eat; it makes me violently ill), and things that require milk, which I can't afford because I'm poor.
    Does your community have resources to help get you food? I don't know if you are in California or not but there are new programs I have read about recently which allow everyone who needs it to get access to fresh and healthy foods.

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    Re: Help me understand something, why do poor people take pride in being picky?

    Do they have local churches or a Salvation Army that prepares meals? I have a store in a downtown area and I hire homeless people to do all the jobs I need done and I have helped alot of people find ways to eat every day of the week. I know it depends on the area in which you reside though. The Salvation Army in alot of places serves lunch every day.

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    Re: Help me understand something, why do poor people take pride in being picky?

    Quote Originally Posted by AshyPhoenix View Post
    We don't have a Salvation Army here. I live in a town of 10000, so there's almost no social support network here to speak of. I've exhausted every option I could find. The good news is that I'm hopefully going to be moving into an apartment soon that's only $400 a month (with a government rent subsidy), as opposed to the exorbitant $600 I'm paying for a one-bedroom with no windows, so I doubt I'll be starving once I get to that point. Three years of malnutrition is long enough.
    I am glad to hear that. I hope it happens sooner than later...I wish you the best. I am sorry about the situation you are in though but I guess in a smaller town there would be fewer options.

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    Re: Help me understand something, why do poor people take pride in being picky?

    Quote Originally Posted by AshyPhoenix View Post
    I'm poor as dirt. Over the last week, I've consumed less than 3500 calories. This is because all I have in my cupboard is tomato soup (which I literally cannot eat; it makes me violently ill), and things that require milk, which I can't afford because I'm poor.

    Oh, and I'll eat literally anything. I've made a whole meal of a tin of tuna before (yes, just a tin of tuna), and because I hadn't eaten for two full days before I happened across it, it was the most delicious thing I've ever eaten.
    I hear you Ashy.

    I had to learn to make everything I could out of pancake mix when I was always completely out of money for the last week of every month. I've been there. It sucks.

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    Re: Help me understand something, why do poor people take pride in being picky?

    Quote Originally Posted by AshyPhoenix View Post
    I'm poor as dirt. Over the last week, I've consumed less than 3500 calories. This is because all I have in my cupboard is tomato soup (which I literally cannot eat; it makes me violently ill), and things that require milk, which I can't afford because I'm poor.

    Oh, and I'll eat literally anything. I've made a whole meal of a tin of tuna before (yes, just a tin of tuna), and because I hadn't eaten for two full days before I happened across it, it was the most delicious thing I've ever eaten.
    The solution is simple. Cross the border to the US and enjoy our massive cornucopia of freebies. Illegals get food stamps. 100 million people in the US get welfare and that does not include Social Security or Medicare. Soon free health policies.

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    Re: Help me understand something, why do poor people take pride in being picky?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kien View Post
    I can see that you no longer have a bitter attitude towards the election results.
    Totally. Not at all.

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    Re: Help me understand something, why do poor people take pride in being picky?

    As a poor person myself, I'm offended by the notion that, since I am poor, it's expected that I be grateful for every moldy crust of bread that is thrown to me. Just because I don't have money doesn't mean that I should be forced to eat garbage. Every human has the right to be picky and only eat the things he or she enjoys.
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    Re: Help me understand something, why do poor people take pride in being picky?

    ^
    Beggars can't be choosers, Doctor

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    Re: Help me understand something, why do poor people take pride in being picky?

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    ^
    Beggars can't be choosers, Doctor
    Who said anything about begging? I've never begged for food in my life. If I can't afford something, I do without rather than ask for charity. As far as I could understand, the OP never said anything about these "poor people" asking for hand-outs and as such, there shouldn't have been any expectation of willingness on their part to eat anything that happened to be presented to them.

    You are correct that beggars can't be choosers but as long as there is no begging go on, people have to right to like what they like.
    Someone asked me once how I could know that I'm gay if I've never slept with a woman. I've never shoved shards of glass into my eye, either, but I don't have to give it a shot to know that it's not for me.

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    Re: Help me understand something, why do poor people take pride in being picky?

    How about—
    'Those who receive food from strangers, shouldn't insult the givers'

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    Re: Help me understand something, why do poor people take pride in being picky?

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    How about—
    'Those who receive food from strangers, shouldn't insult the givers'
    What do any of these bizarre things you say have to do with someone having certain things they like to eat and certain things they don't like to eat?

    Yes, humans will eat mealworms or human corpses to survive if they have to. It doesn't mean they have to like it.

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    Re: Help me understand something, why do poor people take pride in being picky?

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    How about—
    'Those who receive food from strangers, shouldn't insult the givers'
    Again, this wasn't a case of someone donating food to them. From what the OP explained, he's talking about social settings in which groups of friends go out to eat together and certain people having opinions about where they should go. The OP also said he voluntarily picks up the bill after the fact. At no point, from the OP's explanations, was there any mention of food being "given" to these people beforehand. So, again, there was no request for charity from the "poor people" and no direct offer of charity from the "affluent people" and therefore, there shouldn't have been any expectation for the "poor people" to just silently go along with whatever the "affluent people" decided.
    Someone asked me once how I could know that I'm gay if I've never slept with a woman. I've never shoved shards of glass into my eye, either, but I don't have to give it a shot to know that it's not for me.

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    Re: Help me understand something, why do poor people take pride in being picky?

    ^ Oh, I didn't see all that background information; I thought people were talking about the US welfare crisis and about its poor economic performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    ^ Oh, I didn't see all that background information; I thought people were talking about the US welfare crisis and about its poor economic performance.
    Yes living in the U.S. I'm sure you know many of these stories personally, enough to make broad generalizations right?

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    Re: Help me understand something, why do poor people take pride in being picky?

    ^ as broad as everything else here

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    ^ Oh, I didn't see all that background information; I thought people were talking about the US welfare crisis and about its poor economic performance.
    Even people on welfare are allowed to choose what they eat.
    Someone asked me once how I could know that I'm gay if I've never slept with a woman. I've never shoved shards of glass into my eye, either, but I don't have to give it a shot to know that it's not for me.

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    Re: Help me understand something, why do poor people take pride in being picky?

    Quote Originally Posted by doctorsun View Post
    Even people on welfare are allowed to choose what they eat.
    That's what those programs are there for, ideally to ensure a minimum of dignity so that no one is stepping over a corpse the first day of spring.

    Not as some kind of sick social engineering tool to remind people how worthless they are and how grateful they should be for freebies.

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    Re: Help me understand something, why do poor people take pride in being picky?

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    … social engineering tool …
    our governments do SO much of that!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by doctorsun View Post
    Even people on welfare are allowed to choose what they eat.
    nah let them eat cake.

    maybe that leftover nasty christmas fruit cake no one wants.




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    Re: Help me understand something, why do poor people take pride in being picky?

    Just to speculate, I could see how people with less money would want the absolute best and most for the relatively low amount of money they have.

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