Ah, But Underneath

[xbuzzerx]

Pat is JUB's resident racist uncle. There is always one in the family. I call him Uncle Pat.

I'm glad this is generally known. I wasn't sure. I called it out a few times but I'm new here.

[palbert]

Pat is JUB's resident racist uncle. There is always one in the family. I call him Uncle Pat.

Pat is our idiot savant. (Why did I put savant in there?)

[TheSpectatingLoner]

Wait, does that mean his ASS was fake, too? I LOVED that poster!

[pat grimshaw]

@ #50

how is that simplistic assertion related to this thread?

[palbert]

Wait, does that mean his ASS was fake, too? I LOVED that poster!

Which of the 25 asses?

[xbuzzerx]

Wait, does that mean his ASS was fake, too? I LOVED that poster!

lmao. This name. This post. I'll leave it to people better fit.

[Ram]

@ #50

how is that simplistic assertion related to this thread?

Uncle Pat, it's ok. I will hug you but I have pigments in my skin that bothers you.

[pat grimshaw]

^ don't make assumptions. I wasn't the one who just dreamt up the notion that more households in India have mobile phones than lavatories. I didn't assume that; it was in multiple newspapers.

[Ram]

^ don't make assumptions. I wasn't the one who just dreamt up the notion that more households in India have mobile phones than lavatories. I didn't assume that; it was in multiple newspapers.

I'm sorry Uncle Pat. I didn't mean to do or say anything to hurt you. Teach me the ways of the wise white one.

[xbuzzerx]

^ don't make assumptions. I wasn't the one who just dreamt up the notion that more households in India have mobile phones than lavatories. I didn't assume that; it was in multiple newspapers.

The only assumption you ever met that you didn't like is when people assume racist attitudes are racist.

[AWP82]

Wait, does that mean his ASS was fake, too? I LOVED that poster!

I'd still hit that ass, no matter whose it is.

[BENDERBOY]

All this pat stuff just reminded me how much i really miss Knucklehead.

[pat grimshaw]

@ #160

could you rephrase that? I was mentioning statistics about lavatories; I wasn't expressing an attitude.

[palbert]

Lavatories? Are you and Telstra an item?

[xbuzzerx]

@ #160

could you rephrase that? I was mentioning statistics about lavatories; I wasn't expressing an attitude.

Well let's see you think we "can't rush to judge" people who gun down unarmed black teenagers and murder them, you refer to mixed race people as "those people" and say they have "different metabolisms", shall I go on?

[pat grimshaw]

^ are those quotes?

You'd be more sensible in an argument if you mention it at the time instead of generalised assumptions after the fact.

[Ram]

@ #160

could you rephrase that? I was mentioning statistics about lavatories; I wasn't expressing an attitude.

Oh Uncle Pat! What would this family be without your racism? Happier probably.

We love you and accept you in our family. We have got the Mum's side of the family, the Dad's and now with you, the dog's side of the family. Our big family.

I shall now dance the dance of my people! Hand me my banana leaves. It's time to get primitive.

[xbuzzerx]

^ are those quotes?

You'd be more sensible in an argument if you mention it at the time instead of generalised assumptions after the fact.

I did mention it at the time. Somehow, magically, in threads about two different murders of unarmed black teenagers, you show up in both defending the shooters.

HMM.

You gotta love cowards who try to play dumb about their own obvious bigotries.

[BENDERBOY]

And now we have another target.

The ignore function is always available.

[thatgirl]

I pray for the next forum he joins.

I was actually thinking that this is really quite sad.

Honestly, somebody would have to be very lonely and reclusive and starved for attention/interaction with human beings to dedicate so much time and energy into creating a zillion different online characters to pass the time.

I always get the feeling that a lot of online "fakers/trolls/sockpuppets" are emotionally damaged people somehow. Very depressing.

[Ram]

I have genuine love for Uncle Pat.

[palbert]

I did mention it at the time. Somehow, magically, in threads about two different murders of unarmed black teenagers, you show up in both defending the shooters.

HMM.

You gotta love cowards who try to play dumb about their own obvious bigotries.

He'sAustralian. Aborigine intolerant. Forget the slave ship.

[pat grimshaw]

Everyone's going on with simplistic assertions but here are those references from that other thread. As I mentioned before, simplistic restrospective assumptions have little value in resolving issues.

Half of India's homes have cellphones, but not toilets

…shamefully 50% of the Indian population has to defecate in public…

Only 50% of households in the world's second-most populated country have indoor toilets…

Toilet in India Fund Now on Internet/Web. $10- $20 Can build One Toilet

http://www.google.com.au/search?clie...UMDJLLHBiQf6BQ

[Ram]

Oh fuck, Uncle Pat, I just pooped in your soup bowl!

[glasvegas]

Pat is JUB's resident racist uncle. There is always one in the family. I call him Uncle Pat.

[pat grimshaw]

… Forget the slave ship.

What are you talking about?

[glasvegas]

What are you talking about?

[pat grimshaw]

^ my family chose to live in this country. I believe you did also.

[pat grimshaw]

Well let's see you think we "can't rush to judge" people who gun down unarmed black teenagers and murder them…

have those two cases gone to court yet?

[xbuzzerx]

have those two cases gone to court yet?

I don't know. Let's ask "those people."

[pat grimshaw]

^ who are 'those people'?

[palbert]

Lavatories? Are you and Telstra an item?

Unanswered question. Inquiring minds want to know.

[xbuzzerx]

^ who are 'those people'?

You know exactly what I'm referring to. I shouldn't have to tell you twice about your own posts. If you have that much of a memory problem try some ginkobiloba.

[pat grimshaw]

re #182 (palbert)

Actually, I do have a strange idea that I might have met someone who fits Telstra's ideas and MO at a bar last year. He was busy with his friend so I didn't get a chance to quiz him. My city is a big city.

[palbert]

A city is a terrible thing to waste.

[pat grimshaw]

You know exactly what I'm referring to. I shouldn't have to tell you twice about your own posts. If you have that much of a memory problem try some ginkobiloba.

I wouldn't need any medication if you debated what you wanted to debate at the time of the debate. Dragging up simplistic assertions months after the fact doesn't resolve the situation and gives me the impression that you're filled with some kind of silent resentment or sullen, aloof, sulky mood.

[Ram]

re #182 (palbert)

Actually, I do have a strange idea that I might have met someone who fits Telstra's ideas and MO at a bar last year. He was busy with his friend so I didn't get a chance to quiz him. My city is a big city.

You guys don't meet when you take the special bus together?

[xbuzzerx]

I wouldn't need any medication if you debated what you wanted to debate at the time of the debate. Dragging up simplistic assertions months after the fact doesn't resolve the situation and gives me the impression that you're filled with some kind of silent resentment or sullen, aloof, sulky mood.

You're quite correct. I can't fix your racism. I'm simply giving you the message that you don't kid anybody paying attention.

[pat grimshaw]

You won't endear yourself to the people of Australia if you insult them. Have they been insulting you?

[BENDERBOY]

Pat, a bit off topic, but who's the avi pic of ?

[glasvegas]

You won't endear yourself to the people of Australia if you insult them. Have they been insulting you?

If they are the cunts that are calling me names when I am walking on the street, then yes. Do you know it really makes you doubt yourself when people attacking you because you're born with different skin colour, Pat? I guess you will never experience that bullshit I been through.

[pat grimshaw]

… I can't fix your racism. I'm simply giving you the message that you don't kid anybody paying attention.

Why don't you just come out with it and call out the exorcist because, xbuzzerx, at the moment you're sounding like—

1. one of those brain-dead christians determined to beat out Satan
2. Sanator Joe McCarthy determined to root out the Commies
3. The peasants of Salem who wanted to kill the witches
4. the Youth Cadet Corps in Orwell's 1984

If you only talk and shriek in generalised simplistic dogma and if you can't talk about particular issues in a factual sensible adult manner, you're going to sound like those brain-dead people above.

[xbuzzerx]

Why don't you just come out with it and call out the exorcist because, xbuzzerx, at the moment you're sounding like—

1. one of those brain-dead christians determined to beat out Satan
2. Sanator Joe McCarthy determined to root out the Commies
3. The peasants of Salem who wanted to kill the witches
4. the Youth Cadet Corps in Orwell's 1984

If you only talk and shriek in generalised simplistic dogma and if you can't talk about particular issues in a factual sensible adult manner, you're going to sound like those brain-dead people above.

Come at me bro.

[pat grimshaw]

If they are the cunts that are calling me names when I am walking on the street, then yes. Do you know it really makes you doubt yourself when people attacking you because you're born with different skin colour, Pat? I guess you will never experience that bullshit I been through.

You chose it.

I Know that I wouldn't be putting myself through the agony and privation of operating in a country with alien cultures and language. I certainly wouldn't be expecting my hosts to kowtow to my personal needs. And, frankly, I don't believe your first sentence.

[pat grimshaw]

You guys don't meet when you take the special bus together?

I was talking facts. You're making inferences and making jokes which doesn't help resolve issues.

[glasvegas]

You chose it.

I Know that I wouldn't be putting myself through the agony and privation of operating in a country with alien cultures and language. I certainly wouldn't be expecting my hosts to kowtow to my personal needs. And, frankly, I don't believe your first sentence.

You do know that they're heaps of you people out there ay? Well, I guess you're missing out then. I did not regret I come here, I met a lot of people who are open-minded and respectful, the true Aussies. You can live in your little white bubble while I live my life.

[xbuzzerx]

I was talking facts. You're making inferences and making jokes which doesn't help resolve issues.

You alternate between calling for a serious discussion and then pleading total amnesia about everything you say, so what's the point?

[BENDERBOY]

There is no point, that is the point.

[pat grimshaw]

You alternate between calling for a serious discussion and then pleading total amnesia about everything you say, so what's the point?

You can give up if you're a snivelling weakling. But I'd respect you more if you debated in those particular threads you're unhappy about.

[Taz]

Usually I sit by and watch these threads burn.

Almost everyone in this thread needs to learn how to drop an argument and walk away.

But this:

You chose it.

I Know that I wouldn't be putting myself through the agony and privation of operating in a country with alien cultures and language. I certainly wouldn't be expecting my hosts to kowtow to my personal needs. And, frankly, I don't believe your first sentence.

Makes me really fucking angry. In what way is it "expecting people to 'kowtow' to your needs" To expect not to be racially abused in the streets. I know personally that this has, and does happen to people in this country. it has happened to Vince, it has happened to numerous other friends of mine. If you really are Australian you either don't go outside, or you are so ignorant that you don't even view your behavior and that of others as racism.

This country is not alone in having massive problems with racism, and frankly its disgusting. And how dare you Pat Grimshaw sit there and say you don't believe it. Pathetic.

And dont bother arguing because i won't be responing to anything in this thread again.