Ah, But Underneath

[Kien]

I pray for the next forum he joins.

[xbuzzerx]

I pray for the next forum he joins.

Let us take a moment and pray for the innocent buttocks in Best Buys around the country.

[palbert]

@ quasar -- so the pic is a no go, right.

[LaughOutLoud]

The ban isn't temporary. I don't know if he was a troll or if he genuinely needs help. I would guess that it's the latter - there aren't many trolls that keep rejoining when banned

and I've certainly never known one create over 25 different usernames over an 18month period.

[JWaggy]

The ban isn't temporary. I don't know if he was a troll or if he genuinely needs help. I would guess that it's the latter - there aren't many trolls that keep rejoining when banned...

and I've certainly never known one create over 25 different usernames over an 18month period.

[quasar]

@ quasar -- so the pic is a no go, right.

I never saw a pic...

[jaysizzles]

25 usernames...wow. I'd love to see the list. Probably no chance at that...huh?

[rareboy]

....and scene.

That's a wrap there everyone. Let's move on.

[palbert]

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[AWP82]

The ban isn't temporary. I don't know if he was a troll or if he genuinely needs help. I would guess that it's the latter - there aren't many trolls that keep rejoining when banned, and I've certainly never known one create over 25 different usernames over an 18month period.

I don't get it. Why is the ban permanent? Are you implying that he has multiple accounts here and has been banned before? Who else was he?

Either way, that doesn't change the way I feel about him, and I stand by what I said. I think his haters were out of line too, and acted far worse than he ever did (as far as I know). They just happened to have a convenient excuse for it. Otherwise, they'd be in the wrong. If I were a mod/admin, I'd ban them too for their antagonistic behavior in general (not just towards Wanker, but others as well), just to be fair, but that's just me.

[JWaggy]

[refujiunderground]

The ban isn't temporary. I don't know if he was a troll or if he genuinely needs help. I would guess that it's the latter - there aren't many trolls that keep rejoining when banned, and I've certainly never known one create over 25 different usernames over an 18month period.

[Kien]

I don't get it. Why is the ban permanent? Are you implying that he has multiple accounts here and has been banned before? Who else was he?

Either way, that doesn't change the way I feel about him, and I stand by what I said. I think his haters were out of line too, and acted far worse than he ever did (as far as I know). They just happened to have a convenient excuse for it. If I were a mod/admin, I'd ban them too for their antagonistic behavior in general (not just towards Wanker, but others as well), just to be fair, but that's just me.

I don't recall anyone calling him a "retard" or "ugly faggot" or anything worse than that.

But I guess pointing out his lies and demanding he tell us the truth is worse behavior.

[Adrock-JD]

"There's more to life than..., you know. Don'tcha know that? And here ya are, and it's a beautiful day. Well. I just don't understand it."

[palbert]

"Ah, But Underneath" he was a good guy.

[LaughOutLoud]

"Ah, But Underneath" he was a good guy.

Nope.

Underneath, he was just 24 other guys.

[refujiunderground]

Nope.

Underneath, he was just 24 other guys.

that dude really was crazy.

[rareboy]

I don't get it. Why is the ban permanent? Are you implying that he has multiple accounts here and has been banned before? Who else was he?

Either way, that doesn't change the way I feel about him, and I stand by what I said. I think his haters were out of line too, and acted far worse than he ever did (as far as I know). They just happened to have a convenient excuse for it. Otherwise, they'd be in the wrong. If I were a mod/admin, I'd ban them too for their antagonistic behavior in general (not just towards Wanker, but others as well), just to be fair, but that's just me.

OH

For

FUX

Sake.

Please stop. Now.

Before everyone really does reach the conclusion that Wanker is one of 150 avatars that you run from the security of a room in your parent's basement lit only by the glow of a computer screen.

So you have strongly identified with Wanker and you hate me right now. I get it.

Stop with the haters thing. I don't hate Wanker. Or anyone else here. And no one else here at JUB ever did anything 'hateful' either, despite how you see it.

What I do hate is Duplicity. Mendacity. Fraud. Malevolence. Fakery. Manipulation. Maybe these are qualities you admire. Or envy. Or emulate.

I won't be an enabler of pathological behaviour. Maybe I've just seen more of it than you have. Maybe you are just so innocent and trusting that you don't see the danger in allowing an electronic personality to have control not only of your emotions, but to insinuate and dominate an entire electronic society.

Your own incredibly passive aggressive approach, ie.

If I were a mod/admin, I'd ban them too for their antagonistic behavior in general (not just towards Wanker, but others as well), just to be fair, but that's just me.

is also not necessarily becoming in a grown adult man.

But please. Move on. This Wanker avatar never meant you well. And you would be a fool to think so.

But I do, For whatever reason I don't know, but I do. I think that you and the other overly trusting souls don't deserve to be psychologically raped by the sociopaths in the new age of electronic communication.

If you never trust me again, I don't care. If you seethe with rage over what I've done, I don't care. Just understand that it is the interwebz darling.

[LaughOutLoud]

rareboy, you get me so hot.

[G-Lexington]

Whenever a successful sock puppet self-destructs, there's usually at least one victim left in the wake. And quite often, the response is not to fist their forehead for falling for the deception, or angrily denounce the one behind the mask. It's to clasp the discarded dirty sock to their chest, and get angry at those who exposed the deception. Because...well, a bunch of reasons, really. It meeans not having to re-evaluate your feelings, or change your stance. "I don't care if he wasn't real - I LIKED him! And now he's gone, because of you."

I for one tend not to care much of the validity of the stories - maybe as a gargoyle, it's easier to accept the artifice. But I don't think those who call them out on it are doing it wrong, either. If you want to post "you're not really a gargoyle - you're an old fat hairy gay guy" after each of my gargoylian posts, feel free. I'll readily agree with you, then get back to the make-believe.

Lex

[xbuzzerx]

I don't recall anyone calling him a "retard" or "ugly faggot" or anything worse than that.

But I guess pointing out his lies and demanding he tell us the truth is worse behavior.

Exactly. Disliking dishonesty and manipulation is far worse apparently.

[LaughOutLoud]

I also dislike racists, homophobes and sexists.



Come at me, bro.

[mrbeebs]

someone brief me on this extenuating drama...

JUICY

[thatgirl]

I've certainly never known one create over 25 different usernames over an 18month period.

LMAO. How did this get by the mods initially? Or did y'all know all along? That's crazy.

Either way, this person sounds like they have some serious issues. It is way too time consuming for somebody who is in their right mind to go through with something like this...

[gsdx]

someone brief me on this extenuating drama...

JUICY

Too much to explain. Just know that Wanker went over the edge, claiming he 'owned JUB' and he was in control of all of us here. He got quite nasty about it in the end and started with the name-calling (which is against JUB's Code of Conduct). If anyone was a 'hater', he was.

[RaKroma]

Now I can't trust none of yous. Who else has 32 other accounts here?

[AWP82]

Now I can't trust none of yous. Who else has 32 other accounts here?

I have 64, and I've been banned 32 times. I'm surprised people haven't caught on yet. As a matter of fact, I'm Wanker too (same guy, different IP). Trust NO ONE.

[gsdx]

Now I can't trust none of yous. Who else has 32 other accounts here?

I have 64.

I have 69.

No.

Wait.

I DO 69.

At least I used to.

Not so much anymore.

[loveguys72]

This thread is still open? Really?

[RaKroma]

I have 64, and I've been banned 32 times. I'm surprised people haven't caught on yet. As a matter of fact, I'm Wanker too (same guy, different IP). Trust NO ONE.

You're Wanker's lazy brother who makes him waste gas, otherwise you wouldn't be defending him relentlessly here.

[AWP82]

You're Wanker's lazy brother who makes him waste gas, otherwise you wouldn't be defending him relentlessly here.

OK, I lied. I'm actually his roomate.

[bankside]

Whenever a successful sock puppet self-destructs, there's usually at least one victim left in the wake. And quite often, the response is not to fist their forehead for falling for the deception, or angrily denounce the one behind the mask. It's to clasp the discarded dirty sock to their chest, and get angry at those who exposed the deception. Because...well, a bunch of reasons, really. It meeans not having to re-evaluate your feelings, or change your stance. "I don't care if he wasn't real - I LIKED him! And now he's gone, because of you."

I for one tend not to care much of the validity of the stories - maybe as a gargoyle, it's easier to accept the artifice. But I don't think those who call them out on it are doing it wrong, either. If you want to post "you're not really a gargoyle - you're an old fat hairy gay guy" after each of my gargoylian posts, feel free. I'll readily agree with you, then get back to the make-believe.

Lex

What usually happens is some people turn up to find a poster being raked across the coals about something that occurred while they were offline or enjoying real life or something, and the people complaining about the sock puppet, troll, or asshole, are behaving by all appearances in a very unpleasant manner toward a poster who, in the eyes of someone who steps in halfway through, has done no wrong. Then the jackals feel feel no need to explain the context, or what they know, or justify what they think they know, and it ends up making the troll/sockpuppet/asshole look like the victim of a bitchy petty vendetta.

[johaninsc]

The ban isn't temporary. I don't know if he was a troll or if he genuinely needs help. I would guess that it's the latter - there aren't many trolls that keep rejoining when banned, and I've certainly never known one create over 25 different usernames over an 18month period.

I'm aware that you probably can't answer this, but I wonder if wanker90 might also have been goodbadenergy and nachocheez

there were some similarities...

social anxiety

the mysterious roommate/ friend who "might" be gay

a 19 yr old personality, a 22 yr old personality, and a 28 yr old personality

goodbadenergy/nachocheez's were 18, 21, and "late 20's" (at least the ones I'm aware of from here and other sites)

[AWP82]

What usually happens is some people turn up to find a poster being raked across the coals about something that occurred while they were offline or enjoying real life or something, and the people complaining about the sock puppet, troll, or asshole, are behaving by all appearances in a very unpleasant manner toward a poster who, in the eyes of someone who steps in halfway through, has done no wrong. Then the jackals feel feel no need to explain the context, or what they know, or justify what they think they know, and it ends up making the troll/sockpuppet/asshole look like the victim of a bitchy petty vendetta.

I'll concede to this possibility, but that's it. I still don't agree with the behavior (in general). It's been directed at innocent people here too. Lots of them. So yeah, maybe I'm a little biased. Make fun of me all you want, guys. All I'm saying is that, in some cases (including this one), I think the punishments outweigh the crimes.

[justanothershyguy]

I'll concede to this possibility, but that's it. I still don't agree with the behavior (in general). It's been directed at innocent people here too. Lots of them. So yeah, maybe I'm a little biased. Make fun of me all you want, guys. All I'm saying is that, in some cases (including this one), I think the punishments outweigh the crimes.

Did you actually see his meltdown?

[refujiunderground]

awp82, for some reason, i thought of this reading your reaction to the news of when wanker got banned.

[Vannie]

YOO HOO BOYS!! I'm really a woman with big boobies....and my real name is Vanessa.I just shaved my beaver and feel like sitting on someones face.... HOLLA!

*squeals with delight*

[AWP82]

Did you actually see his meltdown?

Of course. After the way they provoked him, I didn't blame him. Whatever he did to deserve it must've gone over my head because I've followed his threads ever since he first showed up, and I never saw anything to warrant the random "investigation." All I saw was a regular guy getting off on the wrong foot with people. I didn't see the villain you guys saw. Maybe I missed something.

awp82, for some reason, i thought of this reading your reaction to the news of when wanker got banned.

I only said damn once.

[refujiunderground]

I only said damn once.

well, i was close. *shrugs*

[RonR18]

YOO HOO BOYS!! I'm really a woman with big boobies....and my real name is Vanessa.I just shaved my beaver and feel like sitting on someones face.... HOLLA!

*squeals with delight*

Then you won't mind if I send my pussy detector to authenticate your story...

[sixthson]

YOO HOO BOYS!! I'm really a woman with big boobies....and my real name is Vanessa.I just shaved my beaver and feel like sitting on someones face.... HOLLA!

*squeals with delight*

I've seen your boobies. They ain't all that.

But I love the shaved beaver. Now I have a boner.

[xbuzzerx]

Of course. After the way they provoked him, I didn't blame him. Whatever he did to deserve it must've gone over my head because I've followed his threads ever since he first showed up, and I never saw anything to warrant the random "investigation." All I saw was a regular guy getting off on the wrong foot with people. I didn't see the villain you guys saw. Maybe I missed something.

He was a boring, self absorbed guy who was seeking to manipulate people for attention. But that doesn't change the fact that he was seeking to manipulate people for attention and that became obvious after like, thread 4.

[G-Lexington]

OK, I lied. I'm actually his roomate.

Then we can finally have the answer to the question we've all been dying to know - are you gay?

Lex

[AWP82]

Then we can finally have the answer to the question we've all been dying to know - are you gay?

Lex

Questioning.

[gsdx]

I'll concede to this possibility, but that's it. I still don't agree with the behavior (in general). It's been directed at innocent people here too.

Wanker was not innocent. He played us from day one. This isn't an opinion. This is a fact. If he did, indeed, have 25 user names here, I'm not at all surprised. From what I've read, it's something of a hobby of his and it invariably gets him into trouble. He'll just move on to another forum and start all over again. To him, his JUB adventure was fun.

[Ram]

I've certainly never known one create over 25 different usernames over an 18month period.

[glasvegas]

Now AWP82...and Wanker.....here's someone you all could learn from.

Here's someone who seems to hate JUB, or at least most of the posters and who is always has stuck up for the trolls and sockpuppets who have been banned over the last couple of years....but who has managed, while never posting one positive observation on anything as far as we can all remember, to completely avoid the ban hammer. Even while sometimes posting homophobic, misogynistic and over the line racist comments.

Now that is skill.

I feel so sorry for him thou. How can a person have so much hate.

[justanothershyguy]

I feel so sorry for him thou. How can a person have so much hate.

Because he's safe behind a computer screen.

[glasvegas]

Because he's safe behind a computer screen.

That's true. If I ever see him in person, I want to tell him, his racist comments really bring me down sometimes. I hope he doesn't do it in his real life.

[Ram]

Pat is JUB's resident racist uncle. There is always one in the family. I call him Uncle Pat.