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    NJ's Christie: Blame for inaction on Sandy Aid Squarely on GOP House "Toxic" Politics

    I saw the PC, he actually said Speaker "Boner" didn't answer 4 calls Chris made to him.

    He was speaking for himself & Gov Cuomo, for the people of NJ/NY. He actually caslled it on the fact that those two states receive less federal $$ & pay out more Federal taxes than some "other" states, meaning I guess some Red states

    Christie was pissed. Reminded me of the "other" Republican Party of Ike, Nixon, Taft, Wilkie.
    When it wasn't the "party" or the politician's personal beliefs, but the people & the "correct thing to do".

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    Re: NJ's Christie: Blame for inaction on Sandy Aid Squarely on GOP House "Toxic" Politics

    The Senate passed a bill filled with pork -- remove the pork and the House will pass a bill.

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    Re: NJ's Christie: Blame for inaction on Sandy Aid Squarely on GOP House "Toxic" Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    The Senate passed a bill filled with pork -- remove the pork and the House will pass a bill.
    Both states have a sizeable Jewish population. Pork would hardly be in order.

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    Re: NJ's Christie: Blame for inaction on Sandy Aid Squarely on GOP House "Toxic" Politics

    It's like a response I read elsewhere. What did Christie think his party would do? His party is the party of small government so did he think they would whip out the checkbook just because it was him?
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    Re: NJ's Christie: Blame for inaction on Sandy Aid Squarely on GOP House "Toxic" Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    The Senate passed a bill filled with pork -- remove the pork and the House will pass a bill.
    Except of course the [pork the House put in the bill.

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    Re: NJ's Christie: Blame for inaction on Sandy Aid Squarely on GOP House "Toxic" Politics

    Well, when Louisiana sent a GOP senator to Capitol Hill after the Democrat John Breaux retired, they got their just rewards after Katrina.

    Why should Republicans help two cobalt blue states? That's how Congress works these days isn't it? The spoils system works even in regional crisis. And what sets the US federal government apart from Nigeria?

    Quote Originally Posted by palbert View Post
    Both states have a sizeable Jewish population. Pork would hardly be in order.
    Fakon bacon is not bad when done right, i.e. crispy. It's good crushed and tossed in salad.
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    Re: NJ's Christie: Blame for inaction on Sandy Aid Squarely on GOP House "Toxic" Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    The Senate passed a bill filled with pork -- remove the pork and the House will pass a bill.
    (legislative) PORK: something you don't like.


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    Re: NJ's Christie: Blame for inaction on Sandy Aid Squarely on GOP House "Toxic" Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    The Senate passed a bill filled with pork -- remove the pork and the House will pass a bill.
    Nah -- go ahead and use the Sandy relief as the headpiece of a new stimulus bill -- and limit all the spending to things that need fixing.

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    Re: NJ's Christie: Blame for inaction on Sandy Aid Squarely on GOP House "Toxic" Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by justdra View Post
    It's like a response I read elsewhere. What did Christie think his party would do? His party is the party of small government so did he think they would whip out the checkbook just because it was him?
    up until the very last minute, everyone -- including House majority leader Eric Cantor -- was expecting the bill to be voted on and passed.

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    Re: NJ's Christie: Blame for inaction on Sandy Aid Squarely on GOP House "Toxic" Politics

    I seen congressman after congressman standing up saying its a shame, its a travesty, blah blah. My first thought was can't you do something about it instead of talking. They can't bring it up while they are standing there or refuse to leave until something is done about it instead of voicing their displeasure as if that would so anything to help the situation, especially since both sides seem to be wanting it.
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    Re: NJ's Christie: Blame for inaction on Sandy Aid Squarely on GOP House "Toxic" Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by justdra View Post
    I seen congressman after congressman standing up saying its a shame, its a travesty, blah blah. My first thought was can't you do something about it instead of talking. They can't bring it up while they are standing there or refuse to leave until something is done about it instead of voicing their displeasure as if that would so anything to help the situation, especially since both sides seem to be wanting it.
    I don't there's not a whole lot they can do except talk, right now.

    Boehner pulled the bill in the closing minutes of the 112th Congress, unexpectedly to everyone. the new session of Congress starts tomorrow, but this means the bill also has to start from scratch.

    “We were given assurances by everyone that this was going to be done. We got continued assurances as late as [Tuesday] night at 9 o’clock,” Christie said. “All I can tell you is this was the speaker’s decision, his alone.”
    “I have to tell you I think that Eric was working as hard as he could to get this done,” the governor said. “You see a lot of palace intrigue down there and unfortunately folks have put politics ahead of their responsibilities.”
    Christie said he was not offered an explanation for the move.
    “I was called at 11:20 last night by Leader Cantor and told that authority for the vote had been pulled by the speaker. Our delegation asked for a meeting with the speaker at that time. They were refused. I called the speaker four times last night after 11:20 and he did not take my calls.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...#ixzz2GsYmVoMf

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    Re: NJ's Christie: Blame for inaction on Sandy Aid Squarely on GOP House "Toxic" Politics

    The Senate is still doing things the old way --- stuff the bills with pork -- it's time for things to change.

    If anything Harry Reid is the person Gov. Christie should be calling for loading up with bill with non-Sandy related goodies.

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    Re: NJ's Christie: Blame for inaction on Sandy Aid Squarely on GOP House "Toxic" Politics

    And has the House no way to floor a bill over the Speaker's decision?

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    Re: NJ's Christie: Blame for inaction on Sandy Aid Squarely on GOP House "Toxic" Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    And has the House no way to floor a bill over the Speaker's decision?
    with 40 minutes left in the 112th Congress? probably not.

    forcing a floor vote without the Speaker putting it on the calendar requires a petition signed by a majority of the House to get it out of committee and brought to a vote.

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    Re: NJ's Christie: Blame for inaction on Sandy Aid Squarely on GOP House "Toxic" Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    The Senate is still doing things the old way --- stuff the bills with pork -- it's time for things to change.

    If anything Harry Reid is the person Gov. Christie should be calling for loading up with bill with non-Sandy related goodies.
    It's funny how people define pork nowadays. Most of the conservative talking points on this have involved spinning the spending in the bill to make it look like unneeded expenditures, when in fact most, if not all of it, is disaster related. Here is the full text of the bill so you can see where all of the money is going instead of just reading the talking points on various conservative blogs and news stations.

    http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h1/

    Now before people go talking about how this is an appropriations bill passed at the beginning of last year, you must make note that 99% of the bill has changed. Since only the House can originate spending bills, the Senate must amend/modify bills sent to it from the House.

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    Re: NJ's Christie: Blame for inaction on Sandy Aid Squarely on GOP House "Toxic" Politics

    Everyone knows that Boehner is Obama's dog right now.

    Do you think Boehner will help Christie out when all Boehner wants to do is nothing at all?
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    Re: NJ's Christie: Blame for inaction on Sandy Aid Squarely on GOP House "Toxic" Politics

    Its your party you created the Boner.

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    Re: NJ's Christie: Blame for inaction on Sandy Aid Squarely on GOP House "Toxic" Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by tigerfan482 View Post
    It's funny how people define pork nowadays. Most of the conservative talking points on this have involved spinning the spending in the bill to make it look like unneeded expenditures, when in fact most, if not all of it, is disaster related. Here is the full text of the bill so you can see where all of the money is going instead of just reading the talking points on various conservative blogs and news stations.

    http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h1/

    Now before people go talking about how this is an appropriations bill passed at the beginning of last year, you must make note that 99% of the bill has changed. Since only the House can originate spending bills, the Senate must amend/modify bills sent to it from the House.
    People who still to this day talk like the economic problems of this country can be solved by reducing pork apparently missed that that was essentially McCain's entire position on the economy when he ran against Obama and that Obama pointed out in the debates and on the campaign trail that even if you eliminate every ounce of pork from legislation (but still get people to vote for it somehow?) it comes up to this miniscule amount as far as a deficit solution.

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    Re: NJ's Christie: Blame for inaction on Sandy Aid Squarely on GOP House "Toxic" Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    People who still to this day talk like the economic problems of this country can be solved by reducing pork apparently missed that that was essentially McCain's entire position on the economy when he ran against Obama and that Obama pointed out in the debates and on the campaign trail that even if you eliminate every ounce of pork from legislation (but still get people to vote for it somehow?) it comes up to this miniscule amount as far as a deficit solution.
    My thought on reforming the pork game is that congresscritters shouldn't be allowed to introduce anything unless it comes as a request from their state government. At least that way it would be more likely to be an actual need.

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