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    Quote Originally Posted by statsguy View Post
    It's a bit ironic that five years ago all the cum play, creampies, and barebacking, that tim (Treasure Island Media) did, was considered extreme. Now, for over a year, cf and sc have been doing the same kind of things (e.g. CF-9-xxx). Granted, tim has gone on to more extreme fantasies. Should I assume that tim forecasts cf's future? Is Tyson as the rough top one direction that cf will explore this year? I'd love to see a sling in cf's future, but I'll pass on the rough stuff.
    Ironic and one long, strange strip.

    Back in the early days (2002 or so) the guys on Sean Cody didn't even kiss. That would be way too gay. They got blown (usually by Sean) and definitely didn't look like they were enjoying it.

    Ten or so years later and they are shooting cum into each others asses and then eating it.

    CF was a slightly shorter journey, but equally as dramatic: When Lucas first had sex with Dirk (I know Phunk remembers Dirk) in a scene called "Straight Stud Love" in 2005 it was just about the hottest thing ever - before that the straight boys fucked the gay boys or got blown by them, but the did not fuck each other nor did they show any kind of affection.

    And now they're having boyfriend sex.

    So the question is: Are the barebacking and internal cum shots the last gasps or just another stop along the way?
    Last edited by TommyPaine; January 11th, 2013 at 09:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    in retrospect, a lot of TIM's models have a rather disturbing or unusual sexual coming of age story, which makes me believe that the porn resulting in recreating those experiences should rather set an example that sex can be a wonderful thing and not necessarily connected to abusive control and emotional humiliation.
    Warhol astutely observed that 'sex is nostalgia for sex'. Seriously, who doesn't act out in the bedroom (or wherever)? Catherine Denueve in Belle du Jour -- brilliant!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyPaine View Post
    CF was a slightly shorter journey, but equally as dramatic: When Lucas first had sex with Dirk (I know Phunk remembers Dirk) in a scene called "Straight Stud Love" in 2005 it was just about the hottest thing ever - before that the straight boys fucked the gay boys or got blown by them, but the did not fuck each other nor did they show any kind of affection.
    Kissing was the first instance of CF taking it up a notch over SC. There was an SC vid circa 2004 where there was a split second of Adam making out with a gay guy in a foursome. SC's Zach, a former primordial Fratmen, was pretty adventurous.

    Logan boinked Lucas before Lucas boinked Dirk.

    So the question is: Are the barebacking and internal cum shots the last gasps or just another stop along the way?
    A stop on the way to the stable, perhaps? What rough beast . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyPaine View Post
    CF was a slightly shorter journey, but equally as dramatic: When Lucas first had sex with Dirk (I know Phunk remembers Dirk) in a scene called "Straight Stud Love" in 2005 it was just about the hottest thing ever - before that the straight boys fucked the gay boys or got blown by them, but the did not fuck each other nor did they show any kind of affection.

    And now they're having boyfriend sex.
    I blame the fall of the securitized mortgage market. All those construction jobs went away. Internal cumshots are the new AAA-rated senior tranches.

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    "Morgan" recently did a scene with Marcus Mojo. Glad he's still getting work.

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    http://gaypornblog.com/corbin-fisher...html#more-9267

    Somebody is stirring up the circumstances of Sean's death.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2013

    ^ Whoever this person is, I honestly think it's best ignored. I'd almost be tempted to ask you to remove the link, there's nothing to be gained from this, you know?

    Anyway, thanks for posting the transcript, yankeesfan. I've been working a lot, lately, so my porn is taking a back-seat. But a couple of really interesting things...

    Quote Originally Posted by yankeesfan View Post
    Chandler and Aiden under the sheets (Pete said that they’d do this one again. The first one was unplanned but they’ll take more care and plan better for the next one.)
    Given the nature of the scene, it was odd that it was unplanned. You would've had to make the bed and put the guys in it and explain the context of the scene to them. And I wonder why they decided to go to all that trouble, you know, if the scene was unplanned. Why not just put 'em on the bed and have them start making out?

    Also, this one ...

    9-way was not planned – was supposed to be a three-way until someone walked in to work out then it grew.
    With the logistics of shooting porn (and a big, unwieldy scene with 9 people in it), I'm not sure I'd really believe that, either.
    Last edited by Windsong; January 12th, 2013 at 01:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhunkSpunk View Post
    Kissing was the first instance of CF taking it up a notch over SC. There was an SC vid circa 2004 where there was a split second of Adam making out with a gay guy in a foursome. SC's Zach, a former primordial Fratmen, was pretty adventurous.

    Logan boinked Lucas before Lucas boinked Dirk.
    Twas actually the other way around Phunk (I had checked the CF site for the first comment to remember the date - just rechecked - Lucas fucked Dirk on April 29, 2005 and then Logan fucked Lucas on May 6th. "Straight Stud Love" (March 18th) was actually just a blow job exchange - with RIMMING (Corbin's emphasis in the write-ups) but was the first time any of the "str8" boys on either site had gotten it on with each other.

    Funny, 8 years later, Dirk must be close to completely bald and I suspect a little chubby - will be hard to convince anyone he was the object of so much lust back in the day.

    And yeah, Zach was awesome. Do you remember the video, I think it was called "The Teacher" (it's not on the SC site anymore) where he was with the guy from the band that Sean knew (Luca?) and Sean was showing them how to blow and fuck each other. Luca was clearly drunk (they even made some reference to it) but it was one hot scene.

    And while I'm on my soapbox - in terms of "verbal" - the new king has got to be that guy Abe at SC. From telling one of the guys "your new nickname is 'Fun Size'" to his constant banter, dude gives good aural.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by EasyRory View Post
    http://gaypornblog.com/corbin-fisher...html#more-9267

    Somebody is stirring up the circumstances of Sean's death.
    So sad for his loved ones but I always found something "off" about Sean. He always seemed conflicted, restless and unfulfilled. I didn't find anything offensive in your link, btw.
    Well, one thing's clear: your favorite TV show is "Alias".

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by TommyPaine View Post
    Even simpler: the popularity of JUB's forums coincided with the period where SC was in decline and CF just had more interesting performers. So posters got in the habit of posting on the CF boards and it was self-perpetuating - like any website, people gravitate to a platform where there are more users.

    Now that the fortunes seem to be reversed - SC is ascendant with new talent like Brandon - I wonder if the chatter percentages will even out.
    I don't see this happening b/c in my experience, the devout online SC fans congregate elsewhere.

    Quote Originally Posted by Asenath View Post
    And, also, not all the posts in the CF threads have historically been fannish. For the last two years, there has been some pretty stiff debate over Corbin Fisher's legal practices and behind-the-scenes finagling. Any attempt to have those separated out has been shot down.

    Aside from that, we're a little flock of friends who talk about other porn sites, random happenings in our lives, wild theories, and old movies and showtunes. So much discussion that doesn't have to do with the boys happens here.
    Yep, I've witnessed all of that, too. It doesn't mean that there aren't SC fan equivalents; those counterparts just don't post on J.U.B, IMHO.
    Well, one thing's clear: your favorite TV show is "Alias".

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by TommyPaine View Post
    Funny, 8 years later, Dirk must be close to completely bald and I suspect a little chubby - will be hard to convince anyone he was the object of so much lust back in the day.

    And yeah, Zach was awesome. Do you remember the video, I think it was called "The Teacher" (it's not on the SC site anymore) where he was with the guy from the band that Sean knew (Luca?) and Sean was showing them how to blow and fuck each other. Luca was clearly drunk (they even made some reference to it) but it was one hot scene.
    Pretty sure his name was Luke. I remember that scene quite well when I was proper into Sean Cody before I discovered the "Lucas fucks Ryan" vid on CF.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by hellproof View Post
    Pretty sure his name was Luke. I remember that scene quite well when I was proper into Sean Cody before I discovered the "Lucas fucks Ryan" vid on CF.
    Yes, it was Luke. I still have the video and I checked.
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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by That70sJoe View Post
    So sad for his loved ones but I always found something "off" about Sean. He always seemed conflicted, restless and unfulfilled. I didn't find anything offensive in your link, btw.
    It made me wonder if the intensity of some of his scenes was E-powered. The way he almost devoured a couple of guys ... now I'm curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yankeesfan View Post
    9-way was not planned – was supposed to be a three-way until someone walked in to work out then it grew.
    Was just going to say something. The idea that they have 9 guys in LV at any one time seems ridiculous. Perhaps they were trying to excuse its lukewarm reception.

    Having a party tomorrow night. An “old friend” is coming to the party tomorrow night but is not planning on doing any scenes. Just coming for the party.
    Sure he'll show up on a twit. Likely Jeff.

    Never figured out who the guy returning for a scene was. Maybe he got cold feet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by That70sJoe View Post
    I don't see this happening b/c in my experience, the devout online SC fans congregate elsewhere. . . Yep, I've witnessed all of that, too. It doesn't mean that there aren't SC fan equivalents; those counterparts just don't post on J.U.B, IMHO.
    Seeing that the models tend to cum & go more quickly, I don't think SC provides their fans with the same fodder for speculation that drives this thread. The don't have the same story lines. However, I suspect gossip does not translate into increased subscriptions for CF. In fact, I'd bet they'd prefer it if this thread disappeared.

    Never warmed up to Dirk. I'm sure he was a good guy, just not my type -- too much ink, not cut like my favorites. It was Logan & Lucas who got me into SC -- tend to like guys who are on the pretty end of the handsome spectrum, who stay in touch with their inner twink.

    I imagine the naughtiness I felt watching Logan or Lucas make out was akin to what straight guys feel when they see lipstick lesbian scenes. While I never lost my sense that Logan was fundamentally straight, he never held back on his kisses the way early Lucas and Dawson did. They were always full-mouthed (if his partner permitted). I think he got off on the naughtiness of what he was doing.

    Actually, I think Dawson was pretty open-mouthed in that hot first scene with Nate. After that, I think he may have even told to hold back, lest fans suspect he actually enjoyed what he was doing.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by PhunkSpunk View Post

    Never figured out who the guy returning for a scene was. Maybe he got cold feet?
    I thought that it might be Ripley back after a while but he only did an ACS scene and I assumed that the guy returning would be on ACM.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2013

    Sean died had no clue. Didn't understand the blog at all.
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    ^you're probably right. The mystery return was Ripley (believe it or not). Unless he does a guy scene it was a big bunch of nuthin'!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yankeesfan View Post
    I thought that it might be Ripley back after a while but he only did an ACS scene and I assumed that the guy returning would be on ACM.
    Quote Originally Posted by PhunkSpunk View Post
    The mystery return was Ripley (believe it or not). Unless he does a guy scene it was a big bunch of nuthin'!
    I think you two are being rather impatient. Give him a chance. Ripley's been back for a total of four days. As I commented in a previous post, even Cameron did an acs scene before his first guy-guy scene when he came back. If you look at the last 25 freshmen (see below), and throw out the self proclaimed gay guys (G), and the guys with previous experience (PX) only Nate and Damian did a guy-guy scene without doing a str8 scene first. One other thing I found interesting is that almost all the freshmen that went on at cf have done a solo, straight, guy-guy-top, guy-guy-bottom sequence. Also surprised that 7 out of 25 of these guys left after a solo (or bj) and str8 scene.
    Name Scene Sequence
    Kelso so
    Gentry so
    PX Tyson gt
    G Davon gb
    Brant so
    Marshall so s8 gt
    Cooper bj s8 gt gb
    Meyer bj s8 gt gb
    Nate bj gt
    G Colton gb gb gb
    PX Tanner bj s8 gt gb
    Hunter s8 gt gb
    Bradley so s8
    G Quinn bj gb ff
    Smith so s8
    Klein so s8
    Damian so gt
    Neil so s8
    G Parker so gb
    Andy bj s8
    PX Kip so gt gt
    Ashton bj gt s8 gb gt
    Chuck so s8 gt gb
    Dane so s8
    Harrison so s8 s8

    G - self acknowledged gay
    PX - previous experience
    so - solo
    bj - blow job (receives)
    s8 - guy-girl straight scene
    gt - guy-guy top
    gb - guy-guy bottom
    ff - guy-guy flip/flop

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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyRory View Post
    It made me wonder if the intensity of some of his scenes was E-powered. The way he almost devoured a couple of guys ... now I'm curious.
    I don't think you can fuck on that stuff. It's not an addictive drug, either, like an opiate.

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    ^ ^ That's why a lot of people add Viagra to E. Also, it depends on what you're doing (and when). You may have a problem getting it up, but if you're on the receiving end that's not an issue. It may not be physically addictive, but it can quickly get to be emotionally addictive. The body's tolerance for E goes up pretty quick, so if you use it regularly (more than once every few months) it can get to be a major problem. And the long term damage sucks.

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    Not that I have any experience (and never will) with any of those chemicals, but for most of his scenes, he seemed pretty lucid and aware (I'm thinking of the interview segments in the scenes with Zeb, mostly. Also, his topping scene with Adam, which was a great scene).

    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Queer View Post
    Sean died had no clue. Didn't understand the blog at all.
    It happened early last year (February, maybe March?). It was a very sad time for a lot of people.

    Quote Originally Posted by PhunkSpunk View Post
    However, I suspect gossip does not translate into increased subscriptions for CF. In fact, I'd bet they'd prefer it if this thread disappeared.
    I sometimes suspect that as well.

    Never warmed up to Dirk. I'm sure he was a good guy, just not my type -- too much ink, not cut like my favorites.
    I always had a soft-spot for Dirk. Sure, he wasn't their usual fit and gorgeous young stud, but I think that was part of the appeal. He seemed like a real guy.

    And I loved his performances. He could go from soft and sensual and tender (the start of his video with Jude, or Damon, where he presses soft kisses against his partner's body, chest, back and butt) to erotic and raunchy and charged (the end of those videos, where he's pounding or getting pounded), in the flick of a switch. I daresay, straighter than the proverbial flagpole, but no, I never minded Dirk. The scene where he bends Logan over the back of the couch, that's one of my go-to-scenes (but Logan's presence didn't hurt that, either).
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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2013

    I just came across this one. I always dig his smiles. If only he could do scens with Aiden or Chandler.


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    Quote Originally Posted by statsguy View Post
    I think you two are being rather impatient. Give him a chance. Ripley's been back for a total of four days. As I commented in a previous post, even Cameron did an acs scene before his first guy-guy scene when he came back. If you look at the last 25 freshmen (see below), and throw out the self proclaimed gay guys (G), and the guys with previous experience (PX) only Nate and Damian did a guy-guy scene without doing a str8 scene first. One other thing I found interesting is that almost all the freshmen that went on at cf have done a solo, straight, guy-guy-top, guy-guy-bottom sequence. Also surprised that 7 out of 25 of these guys left after a solo (or bj) and str8 scene.
    Name Scene Sequence
    Kelso so
    Gentry so
    PX Tyson gt
    G Davon gb
    Brant so
    Marshall so s8 gt
    Cooper bj s8 gt gb
    Meyer bj s8 gt gb
    Nate bj gt
    G Colton gb gb gb
    PX Tanner bj s8 gt gb
    Hunter s8 gt gb
    Bradley so s8
    G Quinn bj gb ff
    Smith so s8
    Klein so s8
    Damian so gt
    Neil so s8
    G Parker so gb
    Andy bj s8
    PX Kip so gt gt
    Ashton bj gt s8 gb gt
    Chuck so s8 gt gb
    Dane so s8
    Harrison so s8 s8

    G - self acknowledged gay
    PX - previous experience
    so - solo
    bj - blow job (receives)
    s8 - guy-girl straight scene
    gt - guy-guy top
    gb - guy-guy bottom
    ff - guy-guy flip/flop
    This chart is a real concern

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    If by E he means X it can interfere with erections just as meth does. Can be counter-acted by viagra,etc. hence raw 'MTV" parties (meth, pianoforte, viagra)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuxwell View Post
    This chart is a real concern
    With 10 of these guys not (yet) trying any guy sex, it's just a continuance of the rather steep percentage of guys who come in annually, do one or two scenes, then move on refusing to cross over to guy sex. Given that they know full well in advance what site they're making application to and CF investing substantial $ in these guys promos, I don't get the mgt tolerance for this bullshit.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2013

    E can be very addictive, especially for adolescents. There are too many stories about teenagers and young adults ruining their social life because they have the need to continue that buzz every weekend three days in a row.

    As for viagra, I don't know how porn producers get past the required prescription. I hear now and again that some G4P model require it just to get a woody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    E can be very addictive, especially for adolescents. There are too many stories about teenagers and young adults ruining their social life because they have the need to continue that buzz every weekend three days in a row.

    As for viagra, I don't know how porn producers get past the required prescription. I hear now and again that some G4P model require it just to get a woody.
    E is habit forming not addictive

    Viagra and other ED drugs are easily available over the internet without prescription

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    Quote Originally Posted by truxtun View Post
    With 10 of these guys not (yet) trying any guy sex, it's just a continuance of the rather steep percentage of guys who come in annually, do one or two scenes, then move on refusing to cross over to guy sex. Given that they know full well in advance what site they're making application to and CF investing substantial $ in these guys promos, I don't get the mgt tolerance for this bullshit.
    My concern about the chart is that the chart actually exists - who has time to produce this? and why?

    Also, there needs to be consideration of the fact that many of these men may only be modelling and jerking off. There is no obligation for them to engage in anything else. Having these men do their thing also keeps the talent fresh. What you may have realised is that there is a small core group of models that have hard core sex and a whole lot of blow ins that appear, get us all excited and then are never heard from again. Its all part of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuxwell View Post
    My concern about the chart is that the chart actually exists - who has time to produce this? and why?
    Gurl, you really need to lurk more. Posting statistical analysis of Corbin Fisher goings-on is what Statsguy loves to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by That70sJoe View Post
    I don't see this happening b/c in my experience, the devout online SC fans congregate elsewhere.



    Yep, I've witnessed all of that, too. It doesn't mean that there aren't SC fan equivalents; those counterparts just don't post on J.U.B, IMHO.
    So to paraphrase Garrett Morris, Mr That70sJoe - where are these SeanCody fans? I want some links, some websites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhunkSpunk View Post
    Seeing that the models tend to cum & go more quickly, I don't think SC provides their fans with the same fodder for speculation that drives this thread. The don't have the same story lines. However, I suspect gossip does not translate into increased subscriptions for CF. In fact, I'd bet they'd prefer it if this thread disappeared.

    Never warmed up to Dirk. I'm sure he was a good guy, just not my type -- too much ink, not cut like my favorites. It was Logan & Lucas who got me into SC -- tend to like guys who are on the pretty end of the handsome spectrum, who stay in touch with their inner twink.

    I imagine the naughtiness I felt watching Logan or Lucas make out was akin to what straight guys feel when they see lipstick lesbian scenes. While I never lost my sense that Logan was fundamentally straight, he never held back on his kisses the way early Lucas and Dawson did. They were always full-mouthed (if his partner permitted). I think he got off on the naughtiness of what he was doing.

    Actually, I think Dawson was pretty open-mouthed in that hot first scene with Nate. After that, I think he may have even told to hold back, lest fans suspect he actually enjoyed what he was doing.
    Logan was the one who got you Phunk. You've always had a thing for him. And he was the best of that early crew - the most into it, the most fun. Dawson's always been stiff and Lucas is sweet will make someone an excellent husband, but Logan was the most fun to hang out with.

    With that in mind, I rewatched the Logan Fucks Dawson video - he was an excellent top, though wound up being one of their go-to bottoms.

    And yeah, Corbin's models kissing -- and rimming each other was a big deal back in 2005. (SC models did not rim)
    And now it's probably a short time till Kent is tying guys up and fucking them in a sling...

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    The model who got me was Cade. The first Corbin Fisher video I ever saw was Cade Fucks Mason, and I was instantly in love. Big, quiet, checking in to make sure that he wasn't killing the little guy with his massive cock. I kind of have a thing for gentle giants. But not too gentle - he did fuck hard and fast. I sincerely miss the machine. And I'm so mad that they turned his replacement into a big ol' bottom. Aiden's dick is too big to do all that bottoming.

    <3

    It's been about 4 years since he's been on film. I imagine him heading towards sexy bearishness, and cuddling with a cute husband at night. If anyone knows anything to the contrary, DO NOT TELL ME.

    Quote Originally Posted by freeloveisnotfree View Post
    I just came across this one. I always dig his smiles. If only he could do scens with Aiden or Chandler.

    Mmmm. Ty.

    You guys, the new guys have gotten cuter than when I decamped. Should I come back to CF?

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    Lucas was in Las Vegas for a visit!

    ...And Adam & Trent were there too...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RefractionOfErections View Post
    Lucas was in Las Vegas for a visit!

    ...And Adam & Trent were there too...
    Wow, that's a blast from the past. Adam's looking great, though. But so's Lucas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windsong View Post
    Wow, that's a blast from the past. Adam's looking great, though. But so's Lucas.
    They do look good - Lucas is aging well and Trent looks even better than when he was active. His scene with Dawson is still one of my favorites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by refractionoferections View Post

    lucas was in las vegas for a visit!

    ...and adam & trent were there too...
    This post is not as funny without the all caps. Feh.

    BUT! I missed Lucas.

    And I think Dawson did, too!

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    Lucas. Looks. So. Hot . . .

    Adam lives in LV. He tends bar at the club they are most likely at. I wish he had done a scene with Trey.

    I always loved/envied Trent, just like I envy Blake & Quinns 1&2. However Trent I think was just scratchin' an itch. Maybe he's in Vegas to scratch the itch again.

    Be interesting if Dru showed up in one of these pictures sometime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truxtun View Post
    With 10 of these guys not (yet) trying any guy sex, it's just a continuance of the rather steep percentage of guys who come in annually, do one or two scenes, then move on refusing to cross over to guy sex. Given that they know full well in advance what site they're making application to and CF investing substantial $ in these guys promos, I don't get the mgt tolerance for this bullshit.
    There are a lot of reasons a guy may not to do any guy-guy scenes at cf. Some of these may be the model’s choice and some are cf’s choice. Cf almost never tells us when a model is not continuing at cf, let alone why a model left. It is pure conjecture to assume that the main reason models don’t continue on to do any guy-guy work is because they “refused” to do it.

    As far as the “steep percentage of guys who…do one or two scenes” [and no guy-guy scenes], if you get rid of the three guys that it’s too early to tell then all but 7 of 25 freshmen, went on to do at least one guy-guy video. So in the last 25 models almost 3/4s (72%) of the models did at least one guy-guy scene.

    I think that’s quite good. I grabbed a little more data to see if that holds up. In the last nine months there have been 36 freshmen cf models. If you ignore the three maybes (Kelso, Gentry, and Brant) then 9 of 33 (27%) of the freshmen didn’t go on to do any guy-guy scenes. That’s much better than sc, where about 2/3 of the models never return after their solos.

    If a cf freshmen doesn’t do guy-guy in his first scene, on the average, he will have a guy-guy scene released in 16 days (if he’s going to do one at all). The minimum wait was eight days and the maximum was 38. There were only two guys, Chuck (38 days) and Avery (24 days), that the wait was over eighteen days. If you eliminate those two the average for the time of a freshman’s first video to their first gg video is 14 days, and the maximum is 18 days. Based on this, it is also reasonable to exclude the three maybes (currently at 5, 13, and 26 days).

    Quote Originally Posted by fuxwell View Post
    My concern about the chart is that the chart actually exists - who has time to produce this? and why?
    When I joined jub a couple of years ago there were of variety of statements being made that were factually incorrect. While I also enjoy conjecture as much as the next person, one of the things I try to do is provide a bit of info about cf based on what is “externally” observable about cf.

    Quote Originally Posted by fuxwell View Post
    Also, there needs to be consideration of the fact that many of these men may only be modelling and jerking off. There is no obligation for them to engage in anything else. Having these men do their thing also keeps the talent fresh. What you may have realised is that there is a small core group of models that have hard core sex and a whole lot of blow ins that appear, get us all excited and then are never heard from again. Its all part of the game.
    Good point. Although, when almost three fourths of the new models (in the last nine months) do at least one guy-guy video, that’s not a bad reuse rate. At the same time, as you point out, there’s very few of the new models that stay around for a large number of scenes.

    Specifically, looking at the last nine months, cf released 118 video, of which 87 included guy-guy action (I’ve excluded blowjobs from the guy-guy counts). Of these 87 scenes, 48 of them include one or more freshmen (new models in the same time period), and 39 include only guys that were not freshmen in the last nine months. That’s pretty good. Over half of all the cf's guy-guy videos included at least one "new" guy in the last nine months. The average freshman, in this time period, did a little over two guy-guy. There are only six of these freshmen that have done over two scenes: Colton (3), Ashton (3), Blake (7), Landon(4), Avery(6), and Stefan(3). So of the twenty four freshmen that did guy-guy scenes, only 25% of them stuck around after a couple of g-g videos.

    (If you want to see the tables with the raw data for the above stats, I can post it, but it's long.)

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    I'd be interested in seeing the stats please. I love all the mathematical statistics and analysis.

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    ^^ in the last (main) paragraph in my previous post, it should read: "Only six of these freshmen that have done over two guy-guy scenes"

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    There are lies, damned lies, and statistics, as Beaconsfield famously said.

    Stats is the Nate Silver of the Corbin Fisher thread, Fuxwell the Karl Rove.

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    CF Freshmen - April 2012 - Jan 2013 (mid month to mid month)
    Name Scene Sequence # days b4 1st gg scene Num of guy-guy
    scenes
    Kelso
    Gentry
    so
    so
    5 so far
    13 so far
    0
    0
    PX
    G
    Tyson
    Davon
    gt
    gb
    0
    0
    1
    1
    Brant
    Marshall
    Cooper
    Meyer
    Nate
    so
    so s8 gt
    bj s8 gt gb
    bj s8 gt gb
    bj gt
    26 so far
    15
    17
    17
    15
    0
    1
    2
    2
    1
    G Colton gb gb gb 0 3
    PX Tanner bj s8 gt gb 15 2
    Hunter s8 gt gb 8 2
    Bradley so s8 never 0
    G Quinn bj gb ff 10 2
    Smith so s8 never 0
    Klein so s8 never 0
    Damian so gt 8 1
    Neil so s8 never 0
    G Parker so gb 15 1
    Andy bj s8 never 0
    PX Kip so gt gt 10 2
    Ashton bj gt s8 gb gt 10 3
    Chuck so s8 gt gb 38 2
    Dane so s8 never 0
    Harrison so s8 s8 never 0
    G Blake so gb gb gb gb g-bo bg bg 14 7
    G Jamison so gb gb 15 2
    Dixon so s8 gt gb 17 2
    G Skye so gb gb 17 2
    Anthony so s8 never 0
    Landon gb s8 gt bi-gb gb s8 0 4
    G Avery so s8 gb gb gb ff gb gb 24 6
    Blane so s8 bi gb 18 2
    G Stefan gt gb gb 0 3
    Diego so s8 never 0
    G Morgan gb 0 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    E can be very addictive, especially for adolescents. There are too many stories about teenagers and young adults ruining their social life because they have the need to continue that buzz every weekend three days in a row.
    Any drug that mimics a neurotransmitter has an addiction potential. Alcohol mimics GABA, opioid drugs beta endorphin, nicotine acetyl-choline, meth Dopamine, etc. Often times the drug has a greater affinity for the receptor than its natural (endogenous) substrate. An individuals addiction-potential is dependent on her or his variety (phenotype) of the receptor. Ecstasy interacts with both dopamine and serotonin receptors, though I suspect the affinity isn't quite as strong as meth or cocaine's for Dopamine (DA) receptors. Too much science?

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    Thanks for the complement, but I don't think that's quite fair to fuxwell. He expressed an opinion. It's just that the numbers don't bear it out. Sometimes when I query something, the results come back different than I expect.

    Like everyone else, it was good to see Lucas. He looks great as do all the other guys. One of the things I really miss about Lucas is that he was always "what you see is what you get" - no stage show here. (I reposted the pic as the original doesn't show up in my browser.)
    Dawson, on the other hand, is normally aware of the camera's presence. Less so now than historically. That doesn't mean that he doesn't put on a good show. I can't get over how Dawson's face has gotten rounder as he's aged (or is it the camera lense).
    I'd like to see Adam come back and do anything he wants. Top on my list would be an Adam Lucas scene, but that isn't going to happen. Second on the list would be a Harper fucks Adam video. I still like the Sean fucks Adam scene, very hot, very sensuous. I can watch Adam slowly work his way onto Sean's dick while Sean's balls twitched for a long time.
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    delete post pls. thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by statsguy View Post
    (caution long post)


    There are a lot of reasons a guy may not to do any guy-guy scenes at cf. Some of these may be the model’s choice and some are cf’s choice. Cf almost never tells us when a model is not continuing at cf, let alone why a model left. It is pure conjecture to assume that the main reason models don’t continue on to do any guy-guy work is because they “refused” to do it.

    As far as the “steep percentage of guys who…do one or two scenes” [and no guy-guy scenes], if you get rid of the three guys that it’s too early to tell then all but 7 of 25 freshmen, went on to do at least one guy-guy video. So in the last 25 models almost 3/4s (72%) of the models did at least one guy-guy scene.

    I think that’s quite good. I grabbed a little more data to see if that holds up. In the last nine months there have been 36 freshmen cf models. If you ignore the three maybes (Kelso, Gentry, and Brant) then 9 of 33 (27%) of the freshmen didn’t go on to do any guy-guy scenes. That’s much better than sc, where about 2/3 of the models never return after their solos.

    If a cf freshmen doesn’t do guy-guy in his first scene, on the average, he will have a guy-guy scene released in 16 days (if he’s going to do one at all). The minimum wait was eight days and the maximum was 38. There were only two guys, Chuck (38 days) and Avery (24 days), that the wait was over eighteen days. If you eliminate those two the average for the time of a freshman’s first video to their first gg video is 14 days, and the maximum is 18 days. Based on this, it is also reasonable to exclude the three maybes (currently at 5, 13, and 26 days).

    When I joined jub a couple of years ago there were of variety of statements being made that were factually incorrect. While I also enjoy conjecture as much as the next person, one of the things I try to do is provide a bit of info about cf based on what is “externally” observable about cf.


    Good point. Although, when almost three fourths of the new models (in the last nine months) do at least one guy-guy video, that’s not a bad reuse rate. At the same time, as you point out, there’s very few of the new models that stay around for a large number of scenes.

    Specifically, looking at the last nine months, cf released 118 video, of which 87 included guy-guy action (I’ve excluded blowjobs from the guy-guy counts). Of these 87 scenes, 48 of them include one or more freshmen (new models in the same time period), and 39 include only guys that were not freshmen in the last nine months. That’s pretty good. Over half of all the cf's guy-guy videos included at least one "new" guy in the last nine months. The average freshman, in this time period, did a little over two guy-guy. There are only six of these freshmen that have done over two scenes: Colton (3), Ashton (3), Blake (7), Landon(4), Avery(6), and Stefan(3). So of the twenty four freshmen that did guy-guy scenes, only 25% of them stuck around after a couple of g-g videos.

    (If you want to see the tables with the raw data for the above stats, I can post it, but it's long.)
    The first law of statistics is "don't cook the calculation" so let me simply take a defineable period - calendar year 2012. In that year, 48 men were introduced. CF had a good year - 30 of those went on to perform in guy sex for a 62.5% ratio. This may be their best year for follow-through with new models but I'm not going to review the other years in depth to satisfy my curiosity. Just for the record, the models first introduced in 2012 were: Mel, Walker, Duncan, Harper, Elliott, Peyton, Roman, Max, Morgan, Evan, Robert, Tate, Brock, Riley, Diego, Avery, Stefan, Blane, Anthony, Dixon, Skye, Blake, Jamison, Dane, Harrison, Chuck, Parker, Kip, Klein, Damian, Bradley, Smith, Brant, Meyer, Marshall, Colton, Gentry, Davon, Sloan, Landon, Ashton, Andy, Neil, Quinn, Tanner, Hunter, Nate, and Cooper. Regretably, of the 30 who did try guy sex, not all that many are active today.

    But for me, the most frustrating about my membership with CF is not knowing who is active and inactive.

    I too enjoyed seeing the photo of the guys - thanks for posting. Lucas looks great although I didn't remember him being significantly shorter than others. He could still give me instant wood. These guys call it a career way too soon for my benefit.

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    Seeing that photo only makes me sad that Lucas won't be in another scene.

    Selfish, I know. Also, it's probably for the best that he moved on, I remember he wasn't as enthusiastic in his last few scenes... (except maybe Lucas/Cain, MAN, that was good)

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    I saw that pic on twitter, gave it a glance, saw Adam, and then moved on. Completely missed Lucas and Trent. Look at them! So cute. I noticed Lucas' ring finger doesn't make it in the photo. Wonder if he's married. But Phunk, I think Trent was doing more than getting an itch scratched.

    So, wonder if any of these guys fit into the blast from the past equation. Not Lucas, obviously. Adam? Trent? I would approve either. I too love, love the Adam/Sean scene. One of my all time favorites.

    I have no recollection of the Lucas/Cain scene. I have been compiling a list of everyone's recommendations over the last several pages. It has been quite a while since I've taken a trip down memory lane. I think I'm going to have some time this week to get to do this. Yay for me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyPaine View Post
    So to paraphrase Garrett Morris, Mr That70sJoe - where are these SeanCody fans? I want some links, some websites.
    You can see their fans on numerous sites e.g. WB, MOP, J.U.B's rival that we can't mention for some reason, various blogs. Speaking of, I see SC cited on gay porn blogs more than CF. For the record: it's not a competition to me (who has more posts on J.U.B.). I was just cutting SC some slack because a thread on J.U.B. isn't a barometer of popularity, IMHO.
    Well, one thing's clear: your favorite TV show is "Alias".

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