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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2013

    I had no idea my "1/4 black" would raise so much comment. Maybe I had better give you more context.

    Pete, Trey, and Dixon are watching the scene in which Trey bottoms for Dixon.

    Trey: (watching himself sit on Dixon's cock) "Gettin' on that chocolate! What ethnicity are you?"

    Dixon: "I'm three-quarters Caucasian and one-quarter African-American."

    Trey: "Looks good on you."

    Dixon: "It's a good mix. I like it."

    From there they go back to discussing the scene. Pete never said a word on the subject.

    My only observation is that mixed race is so common most big cities that it is no longer remarkable at all, just interesting sometimes, as in the case of Trey's question.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by Cruncher665 View Post
    I wonder how amenable Corbin would be to suggestion, were it forthcoming.
    This is Corbin. Probably not very, I'd hazard a guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by michaelscarn View Post
    I don't consider things said during sex to be anything other than a means to getting off. If Tyson called Zeb - or anyone - a fag outside of a sex scene, I would have a problem with that.
    I don't speak for anyone else, but no. I despise the term. Hate it, unequivocally. I could stand to live without hearing it, even in a sex scene with two guys who are intent on pounding the crap out of each other. Not a fan, no. And I think, if I was with someone who started shouting that at me, he'd be getting kicked headfirst out the door.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by EasyRory View Post
    I had no idea my "1/4 black" would raise so much comment. Maybe I had better give you more context.

    Pete, Trey, and Dixon are watching the scene in which Trey bottoms for Dixon.

    Trey: (watching himself sit on Dixon's cock) "Gettin' on that chocolate! What ethnicity are you?"

    Dixon: "I'm three-quarters Caucasian and one-quarter African-American."

    Trey: "Looks good on you."

    Dixon: "It's a good mix. I like it."

    From there they go back to discussing the scene. Pete never said a word on the subject.

    My only observation is that mixed race is so common most big cities that it is no longer remarkable at all, just interesting sometimes, as in the case of Trey's question.
    In the initial intro they say he is Half-White and Half-AF-AM not sure why if he isn't that it was written that way. That is what threw me at first, making it seem that they were breaking it down to the least denomination. Seeing as Trey referred to Dixon's cock as Chocolate(not big on that reference either) and he doesn't just see himself as white. When I think of people doing things like that I see them as being ashamed of that part of themselves. I don't see it or hear it much these days. I was shocked a couple years ago when MTV did a true Life show and one girl in high school had not divulged she was part AF-AM, I think she was Half-AF-AM. Pissed me off, but she was a mess anyway so I didn't care much to hear her story.

    It also threw me that since he was mixed he obviously had gone to a tanning salon. He likes being darker which also says he's into more ethnic looking. Really who knows this about people and still attempt to call him white just baffles me.However, people saying he's white rather then Biracial or Racially Mixed attempts to exclude that fact and there is an issue of people just going by color. How do you learn about others heritage by not getting to know all aspects of their ancestry an culture by just seeing someone's color which really doesn't begin to cover people's life and experiences.


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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by Hellax24 View Post
    Seeing as Trey referred to Dixon's cock as Chocolate(not big on that reference either) and he doesn't just see himself as white. When I think of people doing things like that I see them as being ashamed of that part of themselves.
    Honestly, you don't think you're being just a little too hyper-sensitive here? None of that sounds terribly offensive. *shrug*

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by EasyRory View Post
    Trey: (watching himself sit on Dixon's cock) "Gettin' on that chocolate! What ethnicity are you?"
    See, if someone said that to me (which thank god has never happened) they would get the dumbest look and WTF face.

    As for Lucas' scene with Dante when he said "And Ive never, EVER slept with a black guy...or girl for that matter!" also made me give an eyeroll. On a site that already kinda has a bad rep with black models why do you have to point it out and make it even more apparent and awkward? More-so act like its a Wonderball and your anticipating to see what prize you will get.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by AlanWakePlayer23 View Post
    As for Lucas' scene with Dante when he said "And Ive never, EVER slept with a black guy...or girl for that matter!" also made me give an eyeroll. On a site that already kinda has a bad rep with black models why do you have to point it out and make it even more apparent and awkward? More-so act like its a Wonderball and your anticipating to see what prize you will get.
    You are greatly exaggerating that exchange. It was just Lucas' attempt to get some pre-sex banter going and he said "never" not "never, EVER"

    Probably should have wound up on the cutting room floor but seemed to be Lucas' attempt to get some kind of conversation going with Dante, who was pretty femme and didn't have a whole lot of overlapping interests with Lucas off the bat.

    Lucas sounded like he thought it was a good thing he was getting to do it too-- in the vein of "I've never ridden in a Porsche before" - Dante did not seem offended.

    Again, if you asked, not the most sensitive thing to say, but no harm, no foul
    Last edited by TommyPaine; January 26th, 2013 at 09:55 AM.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2013

    Everybody here seems to be denying the essential connection between the exotic and the erotic. As sexual situations are decidedly (and gratefully) 'pre-political' (or 'pre-frontal' in neuropsych), objectifying your partner by skin color is as acceptable as doing so by his foreskin status. The first with a different race is new adventure, something to celebrate. Lucas said he'd never done it with a black person, not that he wouldn't (as I suspect is the case with SC's Curtis).

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2013

    I took Lucas' remark the way both TommyPaine & PhunkSpunk took it. (& he certainly didn't emphasize EVER). He was making conversation, & to some people, his saying that was probably a turn on. I think it was to Dante, & to Lucas himself. My first time (in the late 70s) with an African American guy was also his first time with a Caucasian guy. The fact that we were each the other's first was a HUGE turn on.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2013

    Does anyone know/can venture a guesstimate when we can expect the first preview/tease/trailer for the 'Xmas abroad' shoot?

    I seem to remember that Pura Vida had a first teaser trailer a looooooonnnng time before it eventually came out but as the new foreign shoot is going to be CFS-only without a physical release, do you think they would take as much time as they bungled Pura Vida (a new silly crusade against streaming sites coming up?)

    People are commenting that quality has been declining and that would be a sure-fire way to get people excited again. I am happy with the newbies solos (Brennan! Gentry! Davon who made Tom seem alive!) but I agree that ACM quality can be quite sketchy (I was distressed that Hunter sported wood from the get-go as that made the whole scene with Blake look very chemically-enhanced. I liked that Hunter got gradual wood in his first updates but it seems that took too much time shooting for CF management).

    Ethnicity in porn sure is a volatile subject in the US. I didn't know some people liked their pron still segregated...

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2013

    ^^^ PV was delayed while cf developed and implemented their watermark technology. I expect to see something fairly quickly from their latest trip (pure conjecture). cf may be trying to decide how to best monetize the scenes that they produced. They've also said that they are in the process of reworking their web site. It wouldn't surprise me if the new web site gets introduced before the scenes from the latest trip. (Last fall, cf changed their t&c's. One of the changes said that they could delete content anytime. It makes me wonder how long acs is for this world, and whether some of the old videos will only be available on cfs. Again, this is all conjecture on my part.)

    Just to add a little data to the discussion on Lucas and Dante. When you read it (see below), it's a little flat, but both guys were in good humor, smiling and talking with Corbin. Both guys are fairly animated and it seems natural. After watching a couple of times I concluded that the conversation was at least planned out. Lucas also includes the word "too" at the end of the statement, which to me implied that if having sex in front of a camera was new to Dante, then there was also an element that was new to him as well, showing empathy.

    I know different people have different levels of sensitivity on subjects like this. While Lucas' statement probably wasn't entirely PC, I didn't find the exchange offensive. (I would have been more offended if Lucas had called him a fag.) I chalked it up to Lucas being Lucas.

    One thing I'd forgotten was how much of a touchy-feely guy Lucas was. These guys had their hands all over each other for most of the video. In the final kisses Lucas is caressing, holding, and almost petting Dante. It's enough to give me goose bumps. Dante's a cute guy in these videos. He's probably turned into a major hunk (man) at this point. I wonder if he would ever consider coming back to do a few scenes.
    cf Dante fucks Lucas (produced 2008-04-19, released 2008-06-05)

    Starting dialog [after titles, at +00:32]

    Corbin (off camera): Guys, how are you?
    Lucas: [slight smile] Good
    Dante: [smile] Awesome
    C: Dante, you look particularly happy today
    D: Oh yea. It’s a good day with Lucas here [Lucas is looking at him and smiling]
    L: [laughs]
    C: So you’ve been a fan of cf for a little bit
    D: Yea, I have
    C: OK. And you had mentioned in your solo video that you did that you had a strong desire to work with Lucas [Lucas is looking at his own feet]
    D: Yea
    C: So, Lucas happened to be in town [Lucas with slight smile, nodding his head] and, uh, said he’d be up for it, so. And we’ve got an extra special treat for you because he’s going to do something that he normally doesn’t do.
    D: What’s that?
    C: That’s bottom.
    D: oooh [not oh but like moo] [everyone laughs]
    C: That’s kind of the best of both worlds.
    D: Yea, yea it is.
    L: If it makes you feel any better I’ve never been with a black guy, or a black girl.
    D: That’s a plus.
    L: [smiling] So this is a whole new first for me too. [with Dante looking at his own feet]
    D: I’m excited.
    C: Are you hard yet? [can’t quite hear what c: said] Let’s see [???] [camera zooms in on Dante’s crotch]
    D: It’s getting there almost.
    C: [softly] It’s getting there almost.
    C: Maybe you should rub it a little bit Lucas [Lucas does and they start to kiss, ending the talking] (at +01:44:00)


    Ending dialog (after last kiss) (at 19:27:15)
    L: [both grinning] That’s good stuff.
    D: That’s awesome [as they both jerk off during fade]

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by PhunkSpunk View Post
    Everybody here seems to be denying the essential connection between the exotic and the erotic. As sexual situations are decidedly (and gratefully) 'pre-political' (or 'pre-frontal' in neuropsych), objectifying your partner by skin color is as acceptable as doing so by his foreskin status. The first with a different race is new adventure, something to celebrate. Lucas said he'd never done it with a black person, not that he wouldn't (as I suspect is the case with SC's Curtis).
    I did touch on Dixon's exotic looks and that being a reason for inquiring about his ancestry.His look and appeal go far beyond his skin tone, as anyone can see he tans well and looks good with his light skin and his tanned skin(if he did it naturally by going to the beach, not the "Shake "N" Fake" he gets at a tanning salon) just as my being able to tan adds another layer of appeal to some. I hate it when people say they are color blind. People are not color blind, unless they are really color blind. I appreciate people that people are into skin tone, exotic features, etc. By them inquiring shows they have a genuine interest in my ancestry and how the combination comes together to create the man I am, and noticing certain distinctions that is unique to myself and family. However, with objectifying someone could be just as shallow as it could have a deeper connection who are into learning about different races and cultures across the board. Saying someone is white,black, brown,etc doesn't really allow any type of deeper meaning or understanding that would make a true connection sexually or non-sexually.


    I met a man when I started go to gay clubs in Cali. He was Eastern European. I think from Czech Republic, I forget. he told me that when he was young he thought people of African descent were made of Chocolate and he told me he would pray for his mother to get one so he could like him all day. LMAO. I can understand this way of thinking where people of African descent didn't have a huge community in places like the Czech Republic in the 50's-60's. They have don't share our history or anything like slavery in their society's history. It seems that AF-AM have in one way or another have always been a fetish to some people, it's not something I like or am comfortable with but that is what people do, another way of only looking at the surface and not really seeing it and not really wanting to know about it all at the same time.

    BTWM Phunk are you saying SC Curtis doesn't want to get down with an AF-AM? I wish SC could get a little bit more diverse, Landon has been MIA for a long time. I hope hasn't left for good.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2013

    The use of politically sensitive minority terms in something as base and objectifying as pornography is transparent self-censorship. The marketing gurus at CF must be ecstatic--our customers are projecting liberal/progressive ideology on Lucas!

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2013

    GEEEEES,
    who cares if Dixon's balck, white, whatever?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? I'm more interested in what Trey and him had to say about the SEX SCENE. Anyone ? Did Trey said another comment like last time during an interview ; quote, Trey "If I were straigth, I'd love to watch this!"

    Anyway, can we talk about the sex scene he just had with Chandler ? It looks soooo hot; hopes he stays for a while.

    As for the fag word, Once, Trey was getting fucked by Connor in front of a girl and said "fuck me like a little school girl" so funny.

    Their'e not to be taken seriously.... as long as it's not off camera, but we'll never know.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2013

    imo, the term "marketing gurus at CF" is an oxymoron (but maybe that's part of their genius).

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by Hellax24 View Post
    It's more then antiquated it's downright ignorant. It's also ignorant to call Dixon white, because he isn't. He as you pointed out and CF has pointed out 1/4 AF-AM and thus, belongs to an Ethnic group where as white people are not. You also, stating he is white based on his appearance is again ignorant. You have no idea what his other lineage is an it doesn't have to be white to have his complexion. and hell yes people without a working knowledge of American history and the weight that such terms comes with and their lack of understanding plays a huge role in it's validity. It's what this country keeps striving to distance itself from and keeps falling short apparently to work past. That band may be considered cool and hip in their country over here it's not. That complete lack of understanding makes it invalid. Besides I have never heard of this group, not sure if they are popular here in America, but I'm sure if they have a fan base here, the fans have the same of understanding the seem to have. I am also a bit tired of people from other countries about the use of such terms as these and how it's not offensive in their countries.
    I'm not surprised that the Danish band chose Quadron as their name because in my experience of living in Europe for 2 yrs (in my 20's), they were less uptight about race. AF-AM musicians always enjoyed going over to Europe to tour because they (especially those that white radio in America often ignored) felt more accepted and that for the Europeans it was more about the music than the ethnicity. That isn't to say that they didn't have their issues with prejudice but you didn't see anything close to the KKK.

    Also, when did I or anyone else call CF racist in this discussion? I have no idea where you are attempting to take this discussion, but realize you are the one taking it there.
    Oh, my bad. I thought you were a regular to this thread. The issue about CF's lack of color has come up time and time again since I've joined J.U.B.

    According to you even if Dixon was 3/4 AF-AM and you would consider him white because of how he looks. Victoria Rowell an AF-AM actress. had a daughter who was born with blond hair and blue eyes and according to your logic she looks white so she to you, is white.
    IMHO, Dixon is much less likely to encounter racial profiling than, say, Dante and Carter. I see what you're saying but I've known minorities (I've lived on both coasts of the US) who felt more white than non-white. Just because someone has a partial racial lineage doesn't mean they're going to necessarily embrace that fraction of their bloodline.

    I have no idea what your babbling about here, I'm not sure you do either.
    That wasn't me. That was a note on the IMDb page for the movie "The Human Stain". Wentworth Miller had difficulty convincing the film's casting director that Wentworth was AF-AM.

    Unless you know what other genetic make-up he carries you cannot wipe away his ethnic heritage, I'm sure he would be offended if anyone did attempting to "White-Wash" him to satisfy yourself.
    I wasn't trying to satisfy anything or anyone. I was simply pointing out a reality that in the USA, more than not, Dixon would be accepted as a white person. White women wouldn't cross the street or clutch their purse if Dixon was approaching them at night in a desolate area.

    I pointed out a story about how a person who is white can be born and looks black, but isn't black simply to show that everything not everyone cannot just be thrown in to a category just by their appearance. You then posted about a movie about an AF-AM man "Passing" to justify your use of terms that any reasonably intelligent person born and raised in America wouldn't use because of it's negative(rightfully so) connotations. People couldn't believe that Vin Diesel was part AF-AM, also the same goes for Dewayne "The Rock" Johnson is part AF-AM. Labeling people to make yourself and others like you a specific type just doesn't work in this day and age. People like Vin Diesel,Wentworth,Jennifer Beals,etc will be quick to let people know they are indeed AF-AM or Mixed race and not deny their African heritage because it is indeed very much a valued and valid part of their being.
    You're making it sound like quadroon (or octaroon, for that matter) was on par with the n-word when it most certainly is NOT. The former terms were utilized to show relevance. It isn't minimizing anyone; it's giving a factual account of a person's heritage. Sure, the racists can twist the terms, adding sarcastic and hateful inflections but the words weren't created for that reason.
    Well, one thing's clear: your favorite TV show is "Alias".

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2013

    Sunday, March 13, 2011

    EXCLUSIVE: “AMERICAN, Cute boy next door. NOT no GodDamned Nigger!” (On Racism in Porn at CorbinFisher.com)

    http://www.theblackoutblog.com/2011/...next-door.html
    Well, one thing's clear: your favorite TV show is "Alias".

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by TommyPaine View Post
    You are greatly exaggerating that exchange. It was just Lucas' attempt to get some pre-sex banter going and he said "never" not "never, EVER"

    Probably should have wound up on the cutting room floor but seemed to be Lucas' attempt to get some kind of conversation going with Dante, who was pretty femme and didn't have a whole lot of overlapping interests with Lucas off the bat.

    Lucas sounded like he thought it was a good thing he was getting to do it too-- in the vein of "I've never ridden in a Porsche before" - Dante did not seem offended.

    Again, if you asked, not the most sensitive thing to say, but no harm, no foul
    Oh well thanks for the correction then, its been a long while since ive seen it.

    Dont get me wrong I love Lucas with all my heart, just thought the comment wasnt needed. But as you said, no harm, no foul.

    Quote Originally Posted by That70sJoe View Post
    Sunday, March 13, 2011

    EXCLUSIVE: “AMERICAN, Cute boy next door. NOT no GodDamned Nigger!” (On Racism in Porn at CorbinFisher.com)
    Is this from the same guy that posted on Corbin's FB? He was angry that CF called him out and picked on him and that shouldnt have been done because hes a disabled army vet in a wheelchair or something. So I guess he thought that gives you free points to say whatever you want.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by narcisse39 View Post
    GEEEEES,
    who cares if Dixon's balck, white, whatever?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? I'm more interested in what Trey and him had to say about the SEX SCENE. Anyone ? Did Trey said another comment like last time during an interview ; quote, Trey "If I were straigth, I'd love to watch this!"

    Anyway, can we talk about the sex scene he just had with Chandler ? It looks soooo hot; hopes he stays for a while.

    As for the fag word, Once, Trey was getting fucked by Connor in front of a girl and said "fuck me like a little school girl" so funny.

    Their'e not to be taken seriously.... as long as it's not off camera, but we'll never know.
    If the discussion doesn't suit you then don't contribute. Let others discuss what they will, despite you not wanting to join in or it's not to your liking.

    What does "Fuck me like a little school girl have to do with using the word fag in a porn scene????

    Quote Originally Posted by That70sJoe View Post
    Sunday, March 13, 2011

    EXCLUSIVE: “AMERICAN, Cute boy next door. NOT no GodDamned Nigger!” (On Racism in Porn at CorbinFisher.com)

    http://www.theblackoutblog.com/2011/...next-door.html
    Yes. I have seen that blog posting before and it was also discussed here. I do regularly follow this thread. I do not post as often as others but I do chime in and contribute to the thread(S)

    Bottom line is that when Dixon arrived at CF in the first sentence he is described as being Half-Black and Half-White. You considering him "White" is a big deal. This is not Europe and the musicians you mention would be from the 60's-70's, an entirely different time and different circumstances. Being a person of color does not hold the same stigma and AF-AM people in the entertainment industry are much more celebrated and copied a hell of a lot more then in those by gone days. You simply cannot compare today's AF-AM influence in the arts with those of the past.


    Legally the one drop rule is not upheld, however socially it still carries a lot of weight. Dixon seems to be very proud and upfront about it and as I pointed out above, likes to have a deeper skin tone, judging by the visits to tanning salons. Just by that you considering him "White" with mixed ancestry is not how he see's himself, so maybe you should reconsider how you see him and others like him. As for Quadroon, octagoon, mulatto those terms as have been mentioned by myself and others are offensive. Is it as offensive as the N-Word? Depends on who you ask, bottom line is that those terms were created to demean and was a tool for segregation and not for celebrating one's heritage. So just because you do not think it is offensive and those people of African descent who were born and raised in America, couldn't possibly grasp the full meaning and weight those terms come with and hat they were created to do. If they did maybe it would make a difference. Those terms were created to classify people as being less then white and though mixed they were was of limiting a person rights and their freedoms so they could not "Pass" for being white. My thoughts are that if a person makes sure you know they are 1/2 or 1/4 AF-AM then they want people know they are not simply white, people persisting to classify those people as simply white without acknowledging their ethnic heritage is an insult.

    The link is also, interesting in another way. The racist doesn't seem to understand how in the wrong he is and insists he is right, because for some god foreseen reason thinks his opinion is the valid one and those that see him as ignorant, foolish and just a waste of space are completely wrong. Dixon has made it well known who and what he is concerning his heritage and it's not simply white.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by AlanWakePlayer23 View Post
    Oh well thanks for the correction then, its been a long while since ive seen it.

    Dont get me wrong I love Lucas with all my heart, just thought the comment wasnt needed. But as you said, no harm, no foul.



    Is this from the same guy that posted on Corbin's FB? He was angry that CF called him out and picked on him and that shouldnt have been done because hes a disabled army vet in a wheelchair or something. So I guess he thought that gives you free points to say whatever you want.
    The Dante/Lucas scenes are so damned hot. I love them.

    As far as the racist goes, growing up my family and I moved next door to a white trash family and their son was one of Jerry's Kids. That fucker was the most racist piece of garbage i have ever run into. He used the N-Word as easily and casually as someone saying "Hello". We wanted to beat his ass but he was wheelchair bound. The wheelchair was one of those that was motorized, because his movements were so limited. almost like the one Christopher Reeves had, he could move his hand only so much. His parents were always apologizing, but they were just so nasty and trashy. Hard to feel sorry for someone like that.

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    Re: Corbin-Fisher Update - 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by Hellax24 View Post
    If the discussion doesn't suit you then don't contribute. Let others discuss what they will, despite you not wanting to join in or it's not to your liking.

    What does "Fuck me like a little school girl have to do with using the word fag in a porn scene????



    Yes. I have seen that blog posting before and it was also discussed here. I do regularly follow this thread. I do not post as often as others but I do chime in and contribute to the thread(S)

    Bottom line is that when Dixon arrived at CF in the first sentence he is described as being Half-Black and Half-White. You considering him "White" is a big deal. This is not Europe and the musicians you mention would be from the 60's-70's, an entirely different time and different circumstances. Being a person of color does not hold the same stigma and AF-AM people in the entertainment industry are much more celebrated and copied a hell of a lot more then in those by gone days. You simply cannot compare today's AF-AM influence in the arts with those of the past.


    Legally the one drop rule is not upheld, however socially it still carries a lot of weight. Dixon seems to be very proud and upfront about it and as I pointed out above, likes to have a deeper skin tone, judging by the visits to tanning salons. Just by that you considering him "White" with mixed ancestry is not how he see's himself, so maybe you should reconsider how you see him and others like him. As for Quadroon, octagoon, mulatto those terms as have been mentioned by myself and others are offensive. Is it as offensive as the N-Word? Depends on who you ask, bottom line is that those terms were created to demean and was a tool for segregation and not for celebrating one's heritage. So just because you do not think it is offensive and those people of African descent who were born and raised in America, couldn't possibly grasp the full meaning and weight those terms come with and hat they were created to do. If they did maybe it would make a difference. Those terms were created to classify people as being less then white and though mixed they were was of limiting a person rights and their freedoms so they could not "Pass" for being white. My thoughts are that if a person makes sure you know they are 1/2 or 1/4 AF-AM then they want people know they are not simply white, people persisting to classify those people as simply white without acknowledging their ethnic heritage is an insult.

    The link is also, interesting in another way. The racist doesn't seem to understand how in the wrong he is and insists he is right, because for some god foreseen reason thinks his opinion is the valid one and those that see him as ignorant, foolish and just a waste of space are completely wrong. Dixon has made it well known who and what he is concerning his heritage and it's not simply white.

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    Who are you to tell anyone what they can or cannot call themselves? Anyone can call themselves anything they want.

    Its funny you defend the One-drop rule, and attack words like mulatto, when in fact, the one-drop rule was used to demean African Americans as well.

    Beyond that, Dixon's race doesn't matter in the scheme of things. Most americans wouldn't look into his history, and they would assume that he's mostly white (When he's not really tanned) just based on his skin color/hair/and facial features. I'm not saying that's good or bad, I'm saying that most americans don't have a nuanced view of racial mixing.

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    Just want to say the current discussion on African-Americans is fascinating and I have enjoyed reading all the contributions. I would like to reiterate that the quadroon, octaroon paradigm was as others have noted a legal system designed to give some people of color more rights than those with darker skin tones. This time of segregation and Jim Crow even up to the 1964 Civil Rights Act is a stain on America and I have to agree that using terms like these and mulatto are not really much better than the n-word. Thinking about Tyson's use of fag is really not much better even if it was during sex considering what seems to be his aversion to most things gay.

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    This is funny inasmuch over the past decade I've observed how Blacks, Whites, English-speaking Latinos and East Asians, have come to recognize each other as 'Real Americans' in the face of increased immigration from parts of the globe requiring inoculation. Mixed race marriages are no longer a big deal provided "at least (s)he speaks English!" Cultural identity means so much more than skin color.

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    Stats the Republican identification of "American" still has much more to do with portfolio value than with ethnicity. Jenna Jameson said it best: "when you're rich, you want a Republican in office."

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    Thank you, Phunk, for the observation that a has-been porn actress thinks the Repubs serve her needs better than the Dems. I would think that you would not find what she says to be in any way authoritative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by didione View Post
    Thank you, Phunk, for the observation that a has-been porn actress thinks the Repubs serve her needs better than the Dems. I would think that you would not find what she says to be in any way authoritative.
    I wouldn't say Jenna's has-been. She's moved in to an entrepreneurial stage of her career. But she fails to appreciate the tenuous position an adult entrepreneur holds in the Republican embrace of the Religious: her and her portfolio may be acceptable collateral damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manipulation View Post
    Who are you to tell anyone what they can or cannot call themselves? Anyone can call themselves anything they want.

    Its funny you defend the One-drop rule, and attack words like mulatto, when in fact, the one-drop rule was used to demean African Americans as well.

    Beyond that, Dixon's race doesn't matter in the scheme of things. Most americans wouldn't look into his history, and they would assume that he's mostly white (When he's not really tanned) just based on his skin color/hair/and facial features. I'm not saying that's good or bad, I'm saying that most americans don't have a nuanced view of racial mixing.
    Let's make this quick. I never told anyone what they could or couldn't call themselves. I pointed out the mentality of a different time in our history which certain terms were acceptable and now which they aren't. I pointed out how people of African descent born and raised outside the USA cannot fully grasp the concept of such terms since they did/do not have to bother with our history with such terms.They can run all over calling themselves what they want, it makes no difference to me, just don't toss their ignorance into a topic where they don't belong.Take from it what you will.


    I also, never defended the one drop rule as much as point it out and how it figures into peoples mindset in America, don't even get me started with the Brown Paper Bag test. As far as heritage goes, mine is very important to me, I'm sure it matter's to Dixon since he told CF about it and then went as far as to discuss it in the PA episode and it seems to matter to Trey since he more then inquired about it. If it doesn't matter to you then I'm happy for you. Is this the point when I tell you my Great Grand was a Lilly white sheriff in the south??? I disagree with your assumption of how people see Dixon. Those with limited encounters with AF-AM's would probably not be able to see his ethnicity, however, there are many who be able to make the distinction as there were back in the days after the Civil War that could tell if a person was attempting to pass as white.

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    can u help me request download for
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    tanner and tom *fucking tanner

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    I don't care what Dixon is (I'm mixed, however irrelevant that may be) he's hot, and a good performer. I won't say we shouldn't discuss it, because that's what this forum is for, but I think y'all are beating a dead horse here. You can only discuss it so far, and it's becoming a tad tedious to read.

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    Well said. Thank you Greg. Whew!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GregKII View Post
    I don't care what Dixon is (I'm mixed, however irrelevant that may be) he's hot, and a good performer. I won't say we shouldn't discuss it, because that's what this forum is for, but I think y'all are beating a dead horse here. You can only discuss it so far, and it's becoming a tad tedious to read.
    Agreed. Well how bout this? That cute red head guy Alan is up for bottoming today!



    ........with Tom.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellax24 View Post
    Let's make this quick. I never told anyone what they could or couldn't call themselves. I pointed out the mentality of a different time in our history which certain terms were acceptable and now which they aren't. I pointed out how people of African descent born and raised outside the USA cannot fully grasp the concept of such terms since they did/do not have to bother with our history with such terms.They can run all over calling themselves what they want, it makes no difference to me, just don't toss their ignorance into a topic where they don't belong.Take from it what you will.


    I also, never defended the one drop rule as much as point it out and how it figures into peoples mindset in America, don't even get me started with the Brown Paper Bag test. As far as heritage goes, mine is very important to me, I'm sure it matter's to Dixon since he told CF about it and then went as far as to discuss it in the PA episode and it seems to matter to Trey since he more then inquired about it. If it doesn't matter to you then I'm happy for you. Is this the point when I tell you my Great Grand was a Lilly white sheriff in the south??? I disagree with your assumption of how people see Dixon. Those with limited encounters with AF-AM's would probably not be able to see his ethnicity, however, there are many who be able to make the distinction as there were back in the days after the Civil War that could tell if a person was attempting to pass as white.

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    I'm just trying to say that some terms are being "reclaimed" by the african american community, so that they won't have such negative connotations as they did in the past.

    For many people, the one drop rule applies only if the person in question has significant black traits. If a person displays a lower amount of stereotypically african american features, they wouldn't be immediately put into the african american category.

    As for dixon, I'm sure most people would be able to tell that he has some sort of racial mixing, but most people would pause before putting him in a specific racial category.

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    Hm. I just tried to download Tom/Alan and got an expected download time of 9 hours, 44 minutes. Washington bandwidth sucks.

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    CF also doesnt have a lot of latinos and asians. my friend said (ignorantly) is that majority of gays do not really find latinos, blacks and asians appealing. perhaps CF is just reflecting this. while i dont agree with my friend, idk with cf

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammyyummy View Post
    CF also doesnt have a lot of latinos and asians. my friend said (ignorantly) is that majority of gays do not really find latinos, blacks and asians appealing. perhaps CF is just reflecting this. while i dont agree with my friend, idk with cf
    Non-whites don't really fit into the stereotypical porn-version of a fraternity, which CF is built around. Sure, there are other sites and studios where you have the one or other non-white within the "fraternity cast" but for the most part, they are found in their own niche, college or not.

    At times, I could get mad about CF not embracing more hairy guys or forcing them to shave everywhere, but then again we've all been drawn to CF for a reason and a type of guy, so why should we bother complaining now when there are other places we can find blacks, Latinos, Asians or scruffy/hairy guys in abundance (and a bit more passionate about gay sex).

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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyRory View Post
    Hm. I just tried to download Tom/Alan and got an expected download time of 9 hours, 44 minutes. Washington bandwidth sucks.
    I tried a few times last night and my times were 2.5 hours + for HD and 1.5 + for not. It's their issue. For the last week every video I downloaded was over an hour DL time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stacy View Post
    I tried a few times last night and my times were 2.5 hours + for HD and 1.5 + for not. It's their issue. For the last week every video I downloaded was over an hour DL time.
    Just a newbie here but I have found if I download in the morning I don't have a problem. I downloaded Tom/Alan around 10 CST this morning and it took about 6.5 minutes. I have Comcast as my ISP not that it makes any difference. I have found that if I try to download from any site in the afternoon/evenings it is very slow, just thought it was everybody being on their computers etc using Comcast in my area (Houston).

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    Quote Originally Posted by texansfan View Post
    Just a newbie here but I have found if I download in the morning I don't have a problem. I downloaded Tom/Alan around 10 CST this morning and it took about 6.5 minutes. I have Comcast as my ISP not that it makes any difference. I have found that if I try to download from any site in the afternoon/evenings it is very slow, just thought it was everybody being on their computers etc using Comcast in my area (Houston).
    My experience is similar. I downloaded Tom/Alan this morning at 2 MPS. Last week I downloaded a video from CF at around 250 KPS, a 75% degradation. Sure looks as if their servers are strained in the evening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    Non-whites don't really fit into the stereotypical porn-version of a fraternity, which CF is built around. Sure, there are other sites and studios where you have the one or other non-white within the "fraternity cast" but for the most part, they are found in their own niche, college or not.

    At times, I could get mad about CF not embracing more hairy guys or forcing them to shave everywhere, but then again we've all been drawn to CF for a reason and a type of guy, so why should we bother complaining now when there are other places we can find blacks, Latinos, Asians or scruffy/hairy guys in abundance (and a bit more passionate about gay sex).
    I don't mind smooth or hairy guys, both are sexy in their own way, but is it CF who encourages/demands the shaving? Pete has said many times that they do not promote shaving. Just my opinion but nothing hotter than a happy-trail leading to a nice manicured bush! But like I said, I like both.

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    There are so many external variables affecting download speed that I can't fault CF. Sometimes it takes a couple of minutes, others a couple of hours. And I've noticed this with other stuff I download. Verizon, Comcast, RCN have all been similarly inconsistent in this regard.

    Still eagerly awaiting a Lucas action scene, hopefully with Zeb. Maybe a bi one?

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    Tom fucks Alan: a very good scene. They could almost be cousins if you look at their faces. Alan has a fine body. Nice opening dialog between Tom, Alan, and Connor. I wish all cf videos were produced (filmed) by Connor - more long shots, good use of the mirror, and some closeups, a good style. The guys were relaxed and seemed natural. And as Alan said in the shower, he came harder than he has in months. I also liked what he said, that you can fantasize all you want about what it's going to be like, but you don't know until you get to the point where there's a dick in your butt. Tom was also good. He kept the scene cool, yet before they got done he fed Alan all of his cock.

    And download time (about noon est) 10 minutes for 979MB (the 720p version). While as Phunk points out there are a lot of variables that affect download speed I am of the opinion that cf has a capacity/bandwidth problem during certain hours. I don't know if it is their server capacity or the bandwidth of their internet connections, but for easily the last six months during the evening hours (6pm to 11pm) cf downloads are noticeably slower than at other times. If you wait until 1am everything is fine. In general, cf downloads are average or slightly less than average speed in comparison to other gay porn sites that I frequent. The fastest is sc, who regularly has download speeds 2-3 times that of cf, but then sc hd (1080p) are often 2-3 times the size of cf videos. When sc jumped to 1080p they also up'd their capacity/bandwidth. cf probably did the same when they migrated acm to 720p, but not to the same degree. I am glad that cf bumped up the 24 hour limit for downloads. cf is about the only gay porn site left that still caps downloads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhunkSpunk View Post
    There are so many external variables affecting download speed that I can't fault CF. Sometimes it takes a couple of minutes, others a couple of hours. And I've noticed this with other stuff I download. Verizon, Comcast, RCN have all been similarly inconsistent in this regard.

    Still eagerly awaiting a Lucas action scene, hopefully with Zeb. Maybe a bi one?
    Zeb would be hot! Maybe Trey too. I wonder if he will only top "if" he returns?

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    Quote Originally Posted by statsguy View Post
    Tom fucks Alan: a very good scene.

    What he said, and for the same reasons.

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    Did anyone buy Harper Nails Marc on CFS? I really like them both so I probably will. I was just wondering if someone had and what his/her thoughts were.

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    I actually meant to say Quinn Rides Marc because I already have Harper Nails Marc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michaelscarn View Post
    I actually meant to say Quinn Rides Marc because I already have Harper Nails Marc.
    I did and liked it - it was a good porn scene but compared to Harper/Josh it was lacking in connection between Marc and Quinn. It did start with some wonderful kissing and Quinn knows what he's doing and gave Marc an amazing-looking BJ and his moves while fucking himself on Marc were incredible and a far cry from some of the guys who obviously aren't into being fucked. What I missed was the touching, the looking into each others eyes, but the positions didn't really allow for that. There were a lot of full body shots and not a lot of focusing only on body parts and penetration. A lot more good than bad as my only complaint was the lack of connection during the scene.

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    Tanner Unloads on Jon was ok, not a sizzler but a decent effort. Until this scene I hadn't been aware of how small Tanner is. His size was much better disguised in his scene with Harper. I'd also say he showed less enthusiasm in this scene than in the scene with Harper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyRory View Post
    Until this scene I hadn't been aware of how small Tanner is. His size was much better disguised in his scene with Harper. I'd also say he showed less enthusiasm in this scene than in the scene with Harper.
    I like Tanner's pocket size : his muscle mass makes him a believable dominant partner (especially compared to Jon's) but his small frame makes him fun size when he's catching. I really wish there were more flip-flops at CF! For instance Jon flip-floping with Reed was really good so a bit of a missed opportunity here.

    But the title of the scene should have been "Tanner passes on his cold to Jon" because he really looked under the weather. So germ phobes beware!

    But the rimming part was well photographed and really featured Tanner's ass dimples. Gah! Almost as good as Booth Jonathan's from last Sunday's Girls.

    Enthusiasm wise, Tanner has really been exceeding my expectations, coming from Fratpad and all, so I can't complain.

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    Yesterday's update was so hot. There's something strangely hot about Alan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by julesmangrove View Post
    Enthusiasm wise, Tanner has really been exceeding my expectations, coming from Fratpad and all, so I can't complain.
    i want jayden to cross the line

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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyRory View Post
    Tanner Unloads on Jon was ok, not a sizzler but a decent effort.
    A good description. Afterwards, I watched Lucas fucks Adrian, and someone fucks Travis, both more satisfactory.

    (a minor point) One thing didn't help this video was using a lens that made the walls, pictures, etc. curved. It looks like you're watching the video through fun house mirrors. I guess that there's more than one way to give Jon a barrel chest.

    The boys may be straight, but the walls aren't.
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