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    Obama Signs FISA Warrantless Wiretapping Program Extension Into Law

    El Presidente has extended by 5 years the U.S. govt. ability to monitor overseas activity of suspected FOREIGN bad guys

    It passed the Senate late last week

    The simple stupid is our govt. can continue to monitor overseas calls and emails WITHOUT OBTAINING A COURT ORDER and only applies to foreigners NOT americans

    I'm cool with it - I imagine the President's base is not but taxing the 2% is taking priority right now


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    Re: Obama Signs FISA Warrantless Wiretapping Program Extension Into Law

    Um ... That originated under "W" ... just sayin' ...

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    Re: Obama Signs FISA Warrantless Wiretapping Program Extension Into Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyanimal View Post
    Um ... That originated under "W" ... just sayin' ...

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    Re: Obama Signs FISA Warrantless Wiretapping Program Extension Into Law

    Like I have said repeatedly... the democratic party looks a helluva lot more like the republican party I grew up with and the republicans are the ones in the wilderness trying to spin conspiracy theories out of thin air instead of legislate this nation.
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    Re: Obama Signs FISA Warrantless Wiretapping Program Extension Into Law

    This one's a no-brainer. The only thing I think is wrong with it is I don't think there's a requirement for informing foreign governments if anything incriminating shows up. I presume that would be done with allies, especially since in many of them the police have a lot more latitude for dealing with these people, while non-allies would be a case by case decision.

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    Re: Obama Signs FISA Warrantless Wiretapping Program Extension Into Law

    ^ probably because the allies have something against the US snooping around their citizens, even if it is done with the best intentions?

    just imagine the UK starting to wiretap americans without any court order or similar, just like they like. you probably would start calling for war.
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    Re: Obama Signs FISA Warrantless Wiretapping Program Extension Into Law

    Yeah, but 'murca is exceptional and it's ok to do that because they have lots and lots of guns.
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    Re: Obama Signs FISA Warrantless Wiretapping Program Extension Into Law

    It doesn't matter who's president, the whole "we are the world police" thing will continue.

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    Re: Obama Signs FISA Warrantless Wiretapping Program Extension Into Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Corny View Post
    ^ probably because the allies have something against the US snooping around their citizens, even if it is done with the best intentions?

    just imagine the UK starting to wiretap americans without any court order or similar, just like they like. you probably would start calling for war.
    As I said in another post, you would be surprised how few rights a non-American citizen has in the US. The first amendment is only for American citizens.

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    Re: Obama Signs FISA Warrantless Wiretapping Program Extension Into Law

    Sounds lovely until you realise that Canada, Australia, UK, all do the same thing, and our governments all share what they have learnt about each other's citizens. So while your bureacrats may be limited to spying on foreigners, there is nothing to prevent domestic surveillance being contracted out to each other as allies.
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Re: Obama Signs FISA Warrantless Wiretapping Program Extension Into Law

    Quote Originally Posted by maxpowr9 View Post
    As I said in another post, you would be surprised how few rights a non-American citizen has in the US. The first amendment is only for American citizens.
    I on the other hand, wouldn't be...
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    Re: Obama Signs FISA Warrantless Wiretapping Program Extension Into Law

    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    El Presidente has extended by 5 years the U.S. govt. ability to monitor overseas activity of suspected FOREIGN bad guys

    It passed the Senate late last week

    The simple stupid is our govt. can continue to monitor overseas calls and emails WITHOUT OBTAINING A COURT ORDER and only applies to foreigners NOT americans

    I'm cool with it - I imagine the President's base is not but taxing the 2% is taking priority right now


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2385690.html
    Chance, Chance, Chance --- don't you know it's all good. Obama continues to expand the the federal government's intrusion into people's personal lives -- it's a good thing -- Obama needs to increase his knowledge of the lower class.

    When will you learn that Obama only does good things. He's the perfect person -- one who governs in fairness, righteousness, and only has hate toward gun toting and Bible clinching conservatives .... and many little babies who are not yet born.

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    Re: Obama Signs FISA Warrantless Wiretapping Program Extension Into Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Corny View Post
    ^ probably because the allies have something against the US snooping around their citizens, even if it is done with the best intentions?

    just imagine the UK starting to wiretap americans without any court order or similar, just like they like. you probably would start calling for war.
    What is the reason? Obama has trouble saying "terrorist" and cannot say "Islamic terrorist".

    Who is the enemy that Obama is protecting us from?

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    Re: Obama Signs FISA Warrantless Wiretapping Program Extension Into Law

    Quote Originally Posted by maxpowr9 View Post
    As I said in another post, you would be surprised how few rights a non-American citizen has in the US. The first amendment is only for American citizens.
    The Supreme Court has said that no legal action can be taken against a non-citizen for any activities that would be protected by the First Amendment for a citizen .

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