Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
I ask this because, there's another porn site that I frequent that discusses porn, and I also was watching that Tyra Banks special about the two gay 4 pay guys claiming they were straight and had to marry women. Another thing there was this special oon VH1 called I am married to a porn star.Resse's wife looked terrible, and thoroughly upset that her husband was gay. I already know what my answer is,I just wanted to get the thoughts from the gay guys here about this subject
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
Originally Posted by Medusa
I ask this because, there's another porn site that I frequent that discusses porn, and I also was watching that Tyra Banks special about the two gay 4 pay guys claiming they were straight and had to marry women. Another thing there was this special oon VH1 called I am married to a porn star.Resse's wife looked terrible, and thoroughly upset that her husband was gay. I already know what my answer is,I just wanted to get the thoughts from the gay guys here about this subject
I thought I had a video of Dean in a sling but I think I lost a section of my porn or it is on another ext drive or burned to dvd. Im not sure. All I had was this (blurred) cum shot. I hope I didnt lose the clip. Its a sexy clip.
I saw a segment from the other show when The Soup showed it.
And he was on Bill Cunningham talking about his career.
I think if gay for pay could be done on gays, then gays could be straight on women although there is no demand but I dont see many gays munching down on the 'pretty orchid' that straights call a vagina. It grosses out alot of gays although I can look at it and be ok but I wouldnt want to go munching there.
Reese says every guy has a little bit of gay in them. Cunningham says "I dont see a guys haiory ass and think I have got to have that"
At the muscle forums, there are lots of guys who escort and claim gay for pay. Zeb Atlas, Billy Herrington (former member) but Billy did eventually bottom in 'Conquered'
Sorry, I dont mean to go off topic via links and videos
I think anything is possible but if I remember right, Kinsey (or someone else) did a study and the third sex fantasy for men was to be with another guy. It was on Donahue
I thought I had a video of Dean in a sling but I think I lost a section of my porn or it is on another ext drive or burned to dvd. Im not sure. All I had was this (blurred) cum shot. I hope I didnt lose the clip. Its a sexy clip.
I saw a segment from the other show when The Soup showed it.
And he was on Bill Cunningham talking about his career.
I think if gay for pay could be done on gays, then gays could be straight on women although there is no demand but I dont see many gays munching down on the 'pretty orchid' that straights call a vagina. It grosses out alot of gays although I can look at it and be ok but I wouldnt want to go munching there.
Reese says every guy has a little bit of gay in them. Cunningham says "I dont see a guys haiory ass and think I have got to have that"
At the muscle forums, there are lots of guys who escort and claim gay for pay. Zeb Atlas, Billy Herrington (former member) but Billy did eventually bottom in 'Conquered'
Sorry, I dont mean to go off topic via links and videos
I think anything is possible but if I remember right, Kinsey (or someone else) did a study and the third sex fantasy for men was to be with another guy. It was on Donahue
Quite lying, you know want to see what it taste like. LOL. I am just messing with you. Anyways, yes I can agree with that maybe some men might have a little gay in them,but wouldn't that mean do some gay guys have a little bit straight in them as well? Would a gay guy have sex with Megan Fox,Candice Swanepool, Kate Upton,Halle Berry,Beyonce, Adrinaina Lima, or Anglina Jolie if given the chance? Or would someone have to force them to do it by holding a gun to their head, or threaten to kill their beloved pet if they don't?
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
There are a lot more bisexuals out there than people think there is. So my conclusion is that these "straight guys" that are "gay for pay" are really just closet bisexuals.
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
Originally Posted by maxpowr9
There are a lot more bisexuals out there than people think there is. So my conclusion is that these "straight guys" that are "gay for pay" are really just closet bisexuals.
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
you have to understand something about money. as twisted as it sounds, everybody has a price. this is a perfect example.
let's not just target the straight guys that do gay porn alone. whether they're gay or straight, they're all porn stars and so they're all getting paid doing what they're doing. now, it doesn't matter what their sexual orientation is. it's a job. with that said, i don't think you can assume about who they are as a person just by the job they do other than that they pretty much will do anything for quick money.
one thing about the closet/you don't have to hurry/it will be bad tomorrow/so brother, don't you worry
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
When it comes to sexuality...I take people at their word. I think sexuality is complex and for some reason alot of people want to put other people in a box with a label. I don't have that need. I do think straight men can have gay sex. I am a gay man and I have had straight sex with a woman....and I am not bi...I am gay.
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
I think people overestimate the motivator of personal sexual tastes and underestimate the motivator of making more money.
I do think some porn actors claim x/y/z sexuality if it gives them more appeal or more money. And it does. A guy could be gay but claiming he's straight and then doing gay scenes will get a ton of you hard and get you to buck up more money faster than just knowing he's a gay guy. (What does that say about gay people anyway? lol.)
But I think people are kidding themselves if they think that being paid a lot of money, especially from the perspective of how YOUNG some of these guys are when you really think about it, isn't sufficient motivation over natural sexuality to sleep with a guy. If I were offered thousands of dollars to get blown and then plow a woman for a 30 minute video that would be a powerful motivation and I have no desire to sleep with a woman.
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
I still get this feeling that I'm the only one who doesn't give a rat's ass what sexuality the porn actors are. If they're appealing to me, and doing things that appeal to me, that gets me off. I don't need the backstory.
I thought I had a video of Dean in a sling but I think I lost a section of my porn or it is on another ext drive or burned to dvd. Im not sure. All I had was this (blurred) cum shot. I hope I didnt lose the clip. Its a sexy clip.
I saw a segment from the other show when The Soup showed it.
And he was on Bill Cunningham talking about his career.
I think if gay for pay could be done on gays, then gays could be straight on women although there is no demand but I dont see many gays munching down on the 'pretty orchid' that straights call a vagina. It grosses out alot of gays although I can look at it and be ok but I wouldnt want to go munching there.
Reese says every guy has a little bit of gay in them. Cunningham says "I dont see a guys haiory ass and think I have got to have that"
At the muscle forums, there are lots of guys who escort and claim gay for pay. Zeb Atlas, Billy Herrington (former member) but Billy did eventually bottom in 'Conquered'
Sorry, I dont mean to go off topic via links and videos
I think anything is possible but if I remember right, Kinsey (or someone else) did a study and the third sex fantasy for men was to be with another guy. It was on Donahue
Gay for pay part 5 video,
i disagreed with that guy from the Advocate. He generalize too much about drugs ...etc.
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
Originally Posted by Medusa
Quite lying, you know want to see what it taste like. LOL. I am just messing with you. Anyways, yes I can agree with that maybe some men might have a little gay in them,but wouldn't that mean do some gay guys have a little bit straight in them as well? Would a gay guy have sex with Megan Fox,Candice Swanepool, Kate Upton,Halle Berry,Beyonce, Adrinaina Lima, or Anglina Jolie if given the chance? Or would someone have to force them to do it by holding a gun to their head, or threaten to kill their beloved pet if they don't?
And I think is Zeb is gay.
[I hate that. I wrote my message out and just lost it when I went to get a photo]
I said I once asked Billy Herrington about the taste of pussy and he said "it is an acquired taste"
The reason I asked Billy was because we didnt think it was him when he first appeared so I asked him about his appearance on Love Connection. I asked him what was the girl's name and two other questions that I have forgotten. He asked the questions right and, I also helped him post photos, so that is why I asked him. I had gotten to known him on the board.
I posted under the name JoeMattress11 and Billy wrote 'JoeMattress11' and he said who he was and he was interested in how Joe got the video. I said "Billy, its Mark, aka M1000" He posted a comment if you look. He asked "do you like the video?"
He said they never went skydiving, like they said they did on the show. It sounds like the writers tweaked their date
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
Originally Posted by Medusa
I ask this because, there's another porn site that I frequent that discusses porn, and I also was watching that Tyra Banks special about the two gay 4 pay guys claiming they were straight and had to marry women. Another thing there was this special oon VH1 called I am married to a porn star.Resse's wife looked terrible, and thoroughly upset that her husband was gay. I already know what my answer is,I just wanted to get the thoughts from the gay guys here about this subject
I think you answered yourself - some are gay, some are not, some are confused. The gay porn industry employs more straight guys than gay - it is a business - simple. I will pretend to be catholic if someone paid me....
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
Many of them are either gay, in denial, or just playing a gimmick for the scene. It's a fantasy.
Some really are straight. I've seen that episode of Tyra and the men who were featured on it, I honestly think most of them are gay, bi, or in deep denial. They were not a good choice to feature on the show for that topic.
I always thought this scene was funny. At the end, the straight guy says "See.... told you I wasn't gay."
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
Originally Posted by Beachguyj
Having gay sex doesn't make you gay. Being gay is about who you want to fall in love with.
That I don't agree with.
There is no amount of money would induce me to have straight sex. I could never fake it for a woman.
I say if you have sex with a guy, can get it up for a guy, then you are not straight. Whether you are bi or gay is another matter
There are a lot more bisexuals out there than people think there is. So my conclusion is that these "straight guys" that are "gay for pay" are really just closet bisexuals.
I agree that there are probably a lot more bisexuals than expected. If all the taboos about sex would suddenly vanish we'd then see what so many people have been suppressing all their lives.
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
I think a lot of these gay for pay porn stars are gay, or at least bi.. but they're in denial. I'm not saying this is the case for everyone, but many.. yes. There could also be some gay guys who lie and say they're straight just because they know there's a demand for gay for pay porn stars in gay porn.. of course only straight acting (I hate that word.. but you know what I mean) gay guys would be able to get away with that. I also think sexuality is more fluid than what many people think.. The fewest of us is a Kinsey 6 or 1. I'm Kinsey 2 or 3. And none of these guys are obviously a Kinsey 1, because that means they wouldn't have sex with other in the first place. They must be at least Kinsey 2.
Basically it's complicated. I think it varies. I think most of them have some sort of attraction to guys though.. they have to just to be able to perform.. even those people calling themselves completely straight, they're probably just in denial. You can be "mostly" attracted to women, but if you have sex with men, you're not completely straight, end of story.
I like Ryan Gosling, Chris Pine, Chace Crawford, Ryan Reynolds, Bradley Cooper, Tom Hiddleston, Kris Allen, Armie Hammer, Teddy Sears, Jon Kortajarena
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
Men compartmentalize more, whereas most women don't; but both can justify situational bisexuality from it being circle jerks in their teen for guy, or practicing kissing for girl. There are a lot of women in porn that are bi for pay, but no one worries about it because it women and "hot", and women are seen as passive because they don't have a cock they have to get up.
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
I think there are straight guys there, but less compared to the bi/gay guys. And of course there has to be some that are in denial, or they just don't want to admit it openly.
Originally Posted by Saybrooke
I was at the gym once, and this woman was on the elliptical next to me, making motorcycle noises.
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
Originally Posted by LeicsDom
That I don't agree with.
There is no amount of money would induce me to have straight sex. I could never fake it for a woman.
I say if you have sex with a guy, can get it up for a guy, then you are not straight. Whether you are bi or gay is another matter
It isn't fake. It's real sex. A lot of straight guys will fuck anything if you get them horny. Especially younger ones. They don't care. It's totally physical for them, no emotion whatsoever involved. They're like dogs.
Some gay guys and women can be like this, too.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm glad they do it.
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
Originally Posted by Adrock-JD
It isn't fake. It's real sex. A lot of straight guys will fuck anything if you get them horny. Especially younger ones. They don't care. It's totally physical for them, no emotion whatsoever involved. They're like dogs.
Some gay guys and women can be like this, too.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm glad they do it.
If you only bottom and are flacid the whole time... MAYBE I'll buy the whole gay for pay.
But sorry... if a guy can keep it up and fuck another guy then he is NOT heterosexual. He might prefer women more, but it's still bisexuality.
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
I respectfully disagree, guys. Sexuality and sex are two different things. People can and do have sex with other people with whom they are not attracted for ulterior motives. Like money or favors.
I do agree that some of the gay for pay models are bisexual and don't want to admit it or just don't believe in labels (i.e. closet case) but some are actually heterosexual.
Being able to tell who is what is probably not possible unless you really know the person well which is never the case on a porn site.
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
Its a big misunderstanding that sexuality is about love.
If both genders can get you horny and you can have sex with both... then you are bisexual. Having romantic relationships only with the opposite sex does not change that.
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
But sexuality is about attraction and attractions can and do sometimes result in love.
A lot of people get upset if things, including people, don't fit neatly into categories or groups. I think bisexuality is one of those things people have issues dealing with because they don't understand it.
I know bisexuality exists but I also know a lot of gays who deny its existence. It's easier for them to think that way.
When people deny that any heterosexual man could possibly have sex with another man for reasons other than attraction, why would they say that? Anything and everything can and does exist in human sexuality and sex. It isn't always black and white, gray areas exist for some people.
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
when a guy is laying there getting fucked, staring off into the ceiling with a bored look on his face and not connecting with his scene partner at all, I have no trouble believing he's gay for pay.
I'll never get the fascination... I'd much rather watch porn staring 2 gay guys who are really into it.
"killing a man should take long enough for one's conscience to get in the way."
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
bi·sex·u·al [bahy-sek-shoo-uh l] Show IPA
adjective
1.
Biology .
a.
of both sexes.
b.
combining male and female organs in one individual; hermaphroditic.
2. sexually responsive to both sexes; ambisexual.
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
I think anyone who claims to have THE definitive answer about anyone else's sexuality except their own is delusional. I would think that as a group of people who has been endlessly defined by others we might have a little bit more respect for individuality.
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
Originally Posted by G-Lexington
I still get this feeling that I'm the only one who doesn't give a rat's ass what sexuality the porn actors are. If they're appealing to me, and doing things that appeal to me, that gets me off. I don't need the backstory.
Lex
I think you probably missed that to some guys the thought of the guy being STRAIGHT but being possibly persuaded into gay sex IS the whole appealing thing, lol. I don't really get it either but I think to a huge part of the porn market it's ABOUT them being straight, it's not about what they're doing as much as that.
Originally Posted by Adrock-JD
I respectfully disagree, guys. Sexuality and sex are two different things. People can and do have sex with other people with whom they are not attracted for ulterior motives. Like money or favors.
I do agree that some of the gay for pay models are bisexual and don't want to admit it or just don't believe in labels (i.e. closet case) but some are actually heterosexual.
Being able to tell who is what is probably not possible unless you really know the person well which is never the case on a porn site.
Yup if the "a straight guy couldn't keep it hard to fuck another guy" thing was true, how do we have so many gay fathers or closeted gay men who've had so much sex with women?
Originally Posted by Adrock-JD
But sexuality is about attraction and attractions can and do sometimes result in love.
A lot of people get upset if things, including people, don't fit neatly into categories or groups. I think bisexuality is one of those things people have issues dealing with because they don't understand it.
I know bisexuality exists but I also know a lot of gays who deny its existence. It's easier for them to think that way.
When people deny that any heterosexual man could possibly have sex with another man for reasons other than attraction, why would they say that? Anything and everything can and does exist in human sexuality and sex. It isn't always black and white, gray areas exist for some people.
I'll be honest with you-- I personally have trouble understanding or even believing in bisexuality, and it isn't so much because I can't understand it-- I'm generally pretty good at conceptualizing things that are outside of my own little box. It's because bisexuality is such an often lied-about concept. You have girls saying they're bi just to be more appealing to guys. You have guys who claim they're bi and never do anything but pursue either men or women exclusively. And you have a really big category of people who seem to treat saying they're bi like a halfway house of not fully coming out of the closet.
I've never met in my real life, ever, a true legitimate bi person who didn't fall into one of those categories. Ever, honestly. I'm not saying they definitely don't exist but I see online people frequently saying things like "bisexuality is a lot more common than people probably think" and I think just the opposite is true. I think once you eliminate everyone who is calling themselves bi for a reason other than biological impulses very, very few people are actually bi.
Originally Posted by loki81
when a guy is laying there getting fucked, staring off into the ceiling with a bored look on his face and not connecting with his scene partner at all, I have no trouble believing he's gay for pay.
I'll never get the fascination... I'd much rather watch porn staring 2 gay guys who are really into it.
Yup I believe it when a guy seems to really not enjoy it that much and be uncomfortable with it. When a guy is just moaning and practically bouncing off the walls because he's enjoying it and having so much fun I really and honestly have a hard time picturing him doing a girl a night at the clubs like they all say they do in the interviews.
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
Originally Posted by Adrock-JD
It isn't fake. It's real sex. A lot of straight guys will fuck anything if you get them horny. Especially younger ones. They don't care. It's totally physical for them, no emotion whatsoever involved. They're like dogs.
Some gay guys and women can be like this, too.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm glad they do it.
I do not understand how can you gloat about someone who hates their sexuality? Clearly you as a gay man is fucking a fellow gay man. There's is nothing straight about man that let you touch them in any sexual manner.HE IS GAY.HE IS GAY. HE IS GAY.I find it so sad that gay men get off the fact that a so called straight man wants to have sex them.What feat are you trying to accomplish by fucking a "straight man"?
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
Originally Posted by Medusa
I do not understand how can you gloat about someone who hates their sexuality? Clearly you as a gay man is fucking a fellow gay man. There's is nothing straight about man that let you touch them in any sexual manner.HE IS GAY.HE IS GAY. HE IS GAY.I find it so sad that gay men get off the fact that a so called straight man wants to have sex them.What feat are you trying to accomplish by fucking a "straight man"?
Then, would you say that a man who touches a woman or lets her touch him in a sexual way is straght, straught, straight? Sorry,it won't wash. For some straight men having gay sex is just a form of masterbation. And, yes, many gay porn stars have always been straight, gay for pay. And many marry women and have families. Some are married when they are doing the gay porn. I have known a number of them.
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
No. Gay men are GAY. No matter much pussy he gets, he still likes men,that matters most. In my honest opinion once a man fucks another man he's GAY. I mean why would a so called straight man fuck another man unless he find something appealing about that man? Sexuality involves attraction, right? So a true 100% straight man should not be attracted to another man.PERIOD.
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
Originally Posted by Medusa
No. Gay men are GAY. No matter much pussy he gets, he still likes men,that matters most. In my honest opinion once a man fucks another man he's GAY. I mean why would a so called straight man fuck another man
For a LOT of money, Medusa. The same reason women sleep with men they find repulsive.
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
Originally Posted by Medusa
No. Gay men are GAY. No matter much pussy he gets, he still likes men,that matters most. In my honest opinion once a man fucks another man he's GAY. I mean why would a so called straight man fuck another man unless he find something appealing about that man? Sexuality involves attraction, right? So a true 100% straight man should not be attracted to another man.PERIOD.
only thing i saw when i read this is.
can't read my....can't read my.... he can't read my trolling face... (he's got to troll somebody)... tra tra tra tra tra tra tra trolling face.. muh muh muh muh... tra tra tra tra tra tra tra trolling face.
one thing about the closet/you don't have to hurry/it will be bad tomorrow/so brother, don't you worry
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
Originally Posted by Laufey
Its a big misunderstanding that sexuality is about love.
If both genders can get you horny and you can have sex with both... then you are bisexual. Having romantic relationships only with the opposite sex does not change that.
I feel the same way. I don't think sexuality is about which gender you can have an emotional connection with or who physically attracts you. I feel that if you can get off with a person of the same sex, you are more than likely bisexual, and I think most people are bisexual to some degree. How they identify is a whole different thing.
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
Originally Posted by xbuzzerx
For a LOT of money, Medusa. The same reason women sleep with men they find repulsive.
But women and men are different.We operate on different levels when it comes to money for sex. Most women cannot even climax from only sex alone anyways.So a female hooker can have that big dollar sign in her mind.Men cannot do that,men are horny creatures by nature, and they are always looking for who can fuck them better.
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
Originally Posted by Medusa
But women and men are different.We operate on different levels when it comes to money for sex. Most women cannot even climax from only sex alone anyways.So a female hooker can have that big dollar sign in her mind.Men cannot do that,men are horny creatures by nature, and they are always looking for who can fuck them better.
So how have gay men married, lived closeted lives, and fathered children?
Re: Honestly.Do some these gay 4 pay stars be straight or gay?Or just and in deinal?
Originally Posted by xbuzzerx
So how have gay men married, lived closeted lives, and fathered children?
I mentioned this before.
You said it yourself,they are closeted. And I think it's extremely awful for gay men to do such a thing to a woman who does not deserve it.If you are gay that's fine,but why drag a woman into your game,of you being a frighten little pig?