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    Re: The NRA Solution is an insult to the Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    Okay I'm holding my head in pain. Kul, seriously, we're talking about building things in school out of kevlar and installing keypad-controlled storage lockers for guns for teachers on school campuses and then hoping for the best.

    Can you explain to me how this is a more sensible solution than stopping crazy people who can't pass background or mental health checks from buying guns and ammo.

    It's not a sensible solution unless someone is working backwards from the pre-conclusion that we absolutely must at all costs not restrict firearms more than they already are. And I see absolutely no compelling reason whatsoever why any solution must pass through that goalpost for anyone other than you.
    All I can do is put this in bold.

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    Re: The NRA Solution is an insult to the Dead

    Seriously even the most rabid gun control advocate sitting with the best satyrists in the history of comedy could not come up with Kevlar slip-covers for school children's chairs.

    Kevlar slip-covers for school children's chairs.

    American children die from gunshot wounds because Americans want it that way; child sacrifices on the Altar of the Sacred Constitution that mustn't be changed. Keep the faith.


    Disgusting.
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Re: The NRA Solution is an insult to the Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    Seriously even the most rabid gun control advocate sitting with the best satyrists in the history of comedy could not come up with Kevlar slip-covers for school children's chairs.

    Kevlar slip-covers for school children's chairs.

    American children die from gunshot wounds because Americans want it that way; child sacrifices on the Altar of the Sacred Constitution that mustn't be changed. Keep the faith.


    Disgusting.
    Offensive, insulting, and childish.

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    Re: The NRA Solution is an insult to the Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    There have been a good 200+ years of societal evolution (including the fall of open imperialism, the rise and fall of Communism and two World Wars) since then, so what those documents say about protection from the government is about as relevant as what the Bible has to say about gays.
    No, its not. The American citizen's relationship to their government has always been adversarial. It still is, and it will always be. Government is not something to be blindly trusted.

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    Re: The NRA Solution is an insult to the Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    You've apparently missed my point which is that the only reason we didn't get a better healthcare bill was because Republicans spent almost 4 years engaging in 100% "we're against anything Obama is for, let's make him a one-term President who accomplished nothing" and not because they had legitimate, sensible, or reasonable problems with the better healthcare proposal.

    How is that infantile style of obstructionism Obama's fault exactly?
    You're still confused. The democrats and president had no reason to listen to anything the republicans said. They could have passed what they wanted, if they had actually intended to do that.

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    Re: The NRA Solution is an insult to the Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by JB3 View Post
    Offensive, insulting, and childish.
    That's what I thought when the idea was raised in this thread. I wish I was creative enough to make it up.
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Re: The NRA Solution is an insult to the Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    That's what I thought when the idea was raised in this thread. I wish I was creative enough to make it up.
    No. Your ideas that Americans want children dead is offensive. It is disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself.

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    Re: The NRA Solution is an insult to the Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by JB3 View Post
    No. Your ideas that Americans want children dead is offensive. It is disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself.
    No; what is disgusting is this slavish devotion to the useless and perverse Second Amendment, where dead children truly are considered the price of freedom. People with guns should be, regardless of their rights, streaming in by the thousands to lay down their arms so the world is less beholden to guns. They should be screaming to find a better way to keep the peace, preserve open government, and repel foreign invasion other than by the gun. Instead, ineptly and shamelessly, they argue that more guns will make children safer. Including the obnoxious idea that teachers should be armed, and including the grotesque idea that children's classroom chairs should be fitted with kevlar slip covers so that adults can go about their gun-toting unimpeded. It is a fucking disgrace, and I will never be embarrassed for saying so. What an odious, and obviously odious system you have.

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    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Re: The NRA Solution is an insult to the Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by JB3 View Post
    No, its not. The American citizen's relationship to their government has always been adversarial. It still is, and it will always be. Government is not something to be blindly trusted.
    This statement makes me feel very sad for you. I prefer to live in a non-paranoid reality.
    That we are capable only of being what we are, remains our unforgivable sin.
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