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    What is your opinion on the Diary of Anne Frank?

    I read it when I was 14, and I noticed in several passages that Anne Frank may be bisexual or gay. She says that seeing a girl's figure makes her go into ecstasy and there was a part of the book where she asked a friend if they can feel each other's breasts. Do you think she's bisexual?

    Overall, I found her short stories great; I found the diary to be okay. What was your opinion and thoughts on Anne Frank and her diary?


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    Re: What is your opinion on the Diary of Anne Frank?

    I don't think she was gay or even bisexual. She was at that age where kids her age explore their sexuality and experiment. It's been ages since I read it, but I seem to recall she had the hots for Peter enough that her descriptions made me have the hots for him as well.

    I'd completely forgot that I have the book. I should dig it out and give it another read.

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    Re: What is your opinion on the Diary of Anne Frank?

    Never read it, got enough of teenage angst with the Twilight books. i'll pass.
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    Re: What is your opinion on the Diary of Anne Frank?

    Never read it and for the life of me can't figure out why.

    Memo to Self: obtain and read.

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    Re: What is your opinion on the Diary of Anne Frank?

    Quote Originally Posted by palbert View Post
    Never read it and for the life of me can't figure out why.

    Memo to Self: obtain and read.
    Same. To me the diary is like any other book. I hate to say but I cannot relate to her. I have a feeling the pain, suffering and importance of WW2 are lost in this generation. Quite dangerous.

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    Re: What is your opinion on the Diary of Anne Frank?

    I understood that her father withheld pages of the diary that confirmed her same-sex experiences.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ram View Post
    Same. To me the diary is like any other book. I hate to say but I cannot relate to her. I have a feeling the pain, suffering and importance of WW2 are lost in this generation. Quite dangerous.

    How can you have the insight to understand that her story is a significant anchor in our attempt to never again drift into such a war, yet simultaneously conclude that it is like any other book? It makes no sense.
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    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Re: What is your opinion on the Diary of Anne Frank?

    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    How can you have the insight to understand that her story is a significant anchor in our attempt to never again drift into such a war, yet simultaneously conclude that it is like any other book? It makes no sense.
    SparksNotes.

    I understand its importance; I just can't accept that it is important to me. Just like the Bible.

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    Re: What is your opinion on the Diary of Anne Frank?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ram View Post
    SparksNotes.

    I understand its importance; I just can't accept that it is important to me. Just like the Bible.
    Ahh good. War via self-actualization.
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Re: What is your opinion on the Diary of Anne Frank?

    I've never read it.

    At least I don't think I have. I kind of feel like I have...or maybe it's just that I've heard a lot about it from others. 0_o

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    Re: What is your opinion on the Diary of Anne Frank?

    read it in the 8th grade

    it was ok

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    Re: What is your opinion on the Diary of Anne Frank?

    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    Ahh good. War via self-actualization.
    I don't get it. I am thick. Please explain.

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    Re: What is your opinion on the Diary of Anne Frank?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ram View Post
    I don't get it. I am thick. Please explain.
    Sersiously making me want to dispense spankings.

    If you'd said "I don't relate to that book but fortunately other literature/experience/documentary/whatever acted like a spark of freedom and gave me insight about the character of a world war and totalitarianism and why children shouldn't have bear that burden; I'm sure others will grow into the same understandings, even if the book isn't as widely read any more. Isn't it great that there are many paths away from war? I'm happy about that" then I'd get it.

    But you seem to be saying that this particular book has some kind of key irreplaceable insights without an understanding of which the world becomes ominously more dangerous. And then that it isn't so important to you. Just can't wrap my head around that. Are you saying you can't grasp the insights it might have? Or that you don't care to? Or huh?
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Re: What is your opinion on the Diary of Anne Frank?

    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    Sersiously making me want to dispense spankings.

    If you'd said "I don't relate to that book but fortunately other literature/experience/documentary/whatever acted like a spark of freedom and gave me insight about the character of a world war and totalitarianism and why children shouldn't have bear that burden; I'm sure others will grow into the same understandings, even if the book isn't as widely read any more. Isn't it great that there are many paths away from war? I'm happy about that" then I'd get it.

    But you seem to be saying that this particular book has some kind of key irreplaceable insights without an understanding of which the world becomes ominously more dangerous. And then that it isn't so important to you. Just can't wrap my head around that. Are you saying you can't grasp the insights it might have? Or that you don't care to? Or huh?
    Are you angry with me because I don't think like you?

    I can't make that emotional attachment. My mind is being rather obstinate about it anne frankly, I just don't care. I guess I just don't care to think of it any further. It's one of those important life-altering events that I am suppose to care about but I can't. I respect the people involved but I can't empathize. I am very detached from it. I am not saying that how I feel is right.

    I think I have made a mistake of being honest here.

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    Re: What is your opinion on the Diary of Anne Frank?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ram View Post
    Are you angry with me because I don't think like you?
    Duhhhh. Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Uh.


    (You had been getting the Bankside Gold Star of Approval ™ until now.)


    Quote Originally Posted by Ram View Post
    I can't make that emotional attachment. My mind is being rather obstinate about it anne frankly, I just don't care. I guess I just don't care to think of it any further. It's one of those important life-altering events that I am suppose to care about but I can't. I respect the people involved but I can't empathize. I am very detached from it. I am not saying that how I feel is right.

    I think I have made a mistake of being honest here.
    And I'm not angry. I'm…gobsmacked…or at least nonplussed. And probably not laying out my point properly.

    I don't know whether The Diary of a Young Girl is the lynchpin to a peaceful future; I rather doubt that any one book could be. Yet to say that it has insights worth knowing, but not worth bothering to get to know…. or am not even getting your point properly, never mind my own...
    Americans need to keep their guns so they can protect themselves from gun violence just like Nancy Lanza did. And like Chris Kyle did. And like Gabby Giffords did. And like Tom Clements did. And like Michael Piemonte. And Joseph Wilcox.

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    Re: What is your opinion on the Diary of Anne Frank?

    I can understand it's merits but in terms of teaching young people about the Holocaust and WW2 in an attempt to ensure something like it never happens again (repeating histories and such), I think Night by Elie Wiesel is much more powerful.

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    I will never care to read it.
    I was forced to care about holocaust too much already. Yes, it happened and I don't care to think about it anymore.
    It is over, everyone should get the fuck over it.

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    Re: What is your opinion on the Diary of Anne Frank?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coward92 View Post
    It is over, everyone should get the fuck over it.
    Pretty intense.


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    Re: What is your opinion on the Diary of Anne Frank?

    I've not read it, only that it has significance because of the Nazi occupation and their treatment of Jews. Ultimately, we know her fate, which makes a poignant tragic example of what war and ideologies can do to people.

    She probably had little else to do cooped up in that room. Writing was her escape from her situation, but ironically, she was writing about herself being cooped up.


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    she a got time get do it
    how much time
    *wotdat? *
    KNOCK KICK SMASH
    she no idea

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    Re: What is your opinion on the Diary of Anne Frank?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coward92 View Post
    It is over, everyone should get the fuck over it.
    I'll let Bosnia and Africa know that genocide was so late 40's and they were just swag-swiping after the fact.

    In fact, lemme give this to Tom Metzger, let him know. Might stop him and the KKK.

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    Re: What is your opinion on the Diary of Anne Frank?

    Quote Originally Posted by SLOPPYSECONDS View Post
    she a got time get do it
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    Re: What is your opinion on the Diary of Anne Frank?

    At the bookstore where I worked, a woman, old enough to know better, was stumped since she couldn't find the diary in fiction. Another, old enough, too, bought Night for light reading on an upcoming flight.

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    Re: What is your opinion on the Diary of Anne Frank?

    I've never read Anne Frank's diary. I've always meant to, just never gotten around to it.

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    What is your opinion on the Diary of Anne Frank?

    Heartbreaking.

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    Re: What is your opinion on the Diary of Anne Frank?

    I haven't read it since I was a kid in school, but I do want to read it again now that I have a different perspective on life now that I am in my 40s.
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    Re: What is your opinion on the Diary of Anne Frank?

    This is one of Whoopis characters....Fontaine...visiting the Anne Frank house. If you have never seen it...it is worth the time...


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    Re: What is your opinion on the Diary of Anne Frank?

    1945 100 - 55 + 13 = 68 yr
    ans 1946 - 54 + 13 +67 yr
    ans 2012 - nothin anyway
    ans awsum lands got read book?

    cue commerical - OOOOOOOOOOH

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    Re: What is your opinion on the Diary of Anne Frank?

    I'm surprised at how sparks easily light in here, on a basis of a diary written by a girl, which happens to take place in WWII Nazi period (throw me a boulder, but in all originality, it IS a diary written by a girl).

    I wouldn't say she's bisexual. It's just: 1). she's at the age of exploration and understanding of changes and differences between bodies of a small girl and those of women, and 2). [I don't know how to say this well, but] it's actually unexpectedly normal for women to admire each other's bodies, to the extent of feeling each other's breasts, without being labelled as gay or bisexual.

    So, yeah, that's it. I have read only excerpts of the diary though, but that's my two cents.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coward92 View Post
    I will never care to read it.
    I was forced to care about holocaust too much already. Yes, it happened and I don't care to think about it anymore.
    It is over, everyone should get the fuck over it.
    Well, I suppose in several decades, after you die, people will just get the fuck over it since it has happened, won't they?
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    Re: What is your opinion on the Diary of Anne Frank?

    Quote Originally Posted by freefall View Post
    I'm surprised at how sparks easily light in here, on a basis of a diary written by a girl, which happens to take place in WWII Nazi period (throw me a boulder, but in all originality, it IS a diary written by a girl).

    I wouldn't say she's bisexual. It's just: 1). she's at the age of exploration and understanding of changes and differences between bodies of a small girl and those of women, and 2). [I don't know how to say this well, but] it's actually unexpectedly normal for women to admire each other's bodies, to the extent of feeling each other's breasts, without being labelled as gay or bisexual.

    So, yeah, that's it. I have read only excerpts of the diary though, but that's my two cents.



    Well, I suppose in several decades, after you die, people will just get the fuck over it since it has happened, won't they?
    Yes they will. It HAS to be that way. I don't want anyone to be crippled because of me.

    Our own age has its own tragedies, why don't we focus on those instead of constatntly bringing the same shit up. It is done, we can't change it.
    Why don't we focus all this attention to the disasters in Africa? OR the things that happen in Tibet?

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    Re: What is your opinion on the Diary of Anne Frank?

    I thought it was superb. I thought I would get bored after a while but it really is a fasinating story of survival.

    Makes me wonder what sort of amazing contributions she would have made to literature had she survived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BENDERBOY View Post
    Never read it, got enough of teenage angst with the Twilight books. i'll pass.
    Teenage angst.

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