Westboro Scum to Protest in Newtown.

[Kulindahr]

If they do show, the grieving parents and friends should file suit for emotional abuse and harassment. Ten million would be a good number to demand in damages.

[HenryReardon]

There's no truth in calling people names. As everyone who's ever read your posts knows.

You clearly failed to carefully read what he posted: let people hear everyone's truth

One individual or group's version of the truth may not be anywhere near universal. Still, it is their "truth" and they have the right to utter it (unfortunately.

[JockBoy87]

You clearly failed to carefully read what he posted: let people hear everyone's truth

One individual or group's version of the truth may not be anywhere near universal. Still, it is their "truth" and they have the right to utter it (unfortunately.

Truth is not different according to who you ask.

A true statement is a description of a state of affairs that actually exists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corresp...heory_of_truth

[Kulindahr]

truth is not different according to who you ask.

A true statement is a description of a state of affairs that actually exists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/corresp...heory_of_truth

:=d:

[Jack Springer]

I don't buy the "slippery slope" argument the Right loves to apply to any cause they're against (dog marriage anyone?). I believe people are actually rational and saying "you can't verbally abuse people at a funeral" will NOT lead to "you are not allowed to speak against the Dear Leader"...

Free speech should not be an excuse for abuse.

Don't forget that the members of the WBC are part of the big tent of the democrat party.

All registered democrats.

Yeah, one more thing. They make their funding by selling books and software to lawyers.

[Rolyo85]

Don't forget that the members of the WBC are part of the big tent of the democrat party.

All registered democrats.

Yeah, one more thing. They make their funding by selling books and software to lawyers.

1. Source?

2. So?

[Jack Springer]

^^^

It's been supported by links before on CEP. This is not new information -- however, it is often ignored information.

[Jack Springer]

1. Source?

2. So?

I figured you get upset if I didn't link a source

Phelps has run for political office at least 5 times in Kansas as a democrat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps

Shirley Phelps-Roper is the new leader of the pack. Her husband Brent Roper published books and software for lawyers -- software that has good reviews. Lawyers in the US could shut them done by not buying his books -- wonder why?

http://www.amazon.com/Brent-D.-Roper/e/B001HMNG4M

[FuryOfFirestorm]

Don't forget that the members of the WBC are part of the big tent of the democrat party.

All registered democrats.

Yeah, one more thing. They make their funding by selling books and software to lawyers.

They also call themselves Christians, but the WBC doesn't behave in a very Christian or Democratic manner, now do they? I'm sure 99% of Christians or Democrats don't go around trolling funerals, claiming children's deaths as "God's Will", or make YouTube videos gleefully proclaiming that everyone but them are going to Hell.

Just because someone claims they are this or that doesn't necessarily make it 100% true, Jack. Otherwise, I'd be a billionaire with a 14 inch cock, just like it says in my profile!

The special word for today is "DINOS".

[maxpowr9]

They must not be cognizant that the Democrats and Republicans flip-flopped in the 50s.

[HenryReardon]

Truth is not different according to who you ask.

A true statement is a description of a state of affairs that actually exists.

[]

It is in the context of Chance's post - which is what you responded to.

[MystikWizard]

Ironically ... the WBC does more to advance Gay rights in this country than just about any group I can think of. Let them go out and protest. The more they protest, the better.

[Kulindahr]

Ironically ... the WBC does more to advance Gay rights in this country than just about any group I can think of. Let them go out and protest. The more they protest, the better.

Probably so. <sigh>

But letting them emotionally assault funeral-goers is a poor lesson to our children.

[chance1]

Ironically ... the WBC does more to advance Gay rights in this country than just about any group I can think of. Let them go out and protest. The more they protest, the better.

BINGO

hate speech in effect provides good results

as difficult as it is to hear and see

[Kulindahr]

BINGO

hate speech in effect provides good results

as difficult as it is to hear and see

That's no excuse for emotional assault.

[JockBoy87]

It is in the context of Chance's post - which is what you responded to.

There is no such thing as social constructivism in any context.

[chance1]

not sure if this has been shared yet but

there is a way to constructively and legally stop the madness

Go Aggies !!

Texas A&M alum Lt. Col. Roy Tisdale died on June 28 during a safety briefing at Fort Bragg, N.C. Tisdale was killed by another soldier who then fatally shot himself.

[Quote truncated by moderator] Copyright © 2012 TheHuffingtonPost.com, Inc.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1653002.html

[Kulindahr]

not sure if this has been shared yet but

there is a way to constructively and legally stop the madness

Go Aggies !!





http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1653002.html

Some judge somewhere would probably find something illegal about it.

It works for certain when the "wall" is entirely on private property, because the owners are the ones who decide.

That's in a way better than the one where people came and took every parking spot within a huge distance from the funeral, leaving Westboro nowhere to go.

[JayHawk]

The best was when the fucking dirt bags stayed over night in a motel and the towns folks all had breakdowns around the car... then when they finally got all the cars moved the Phelps' car was sitting on empty tires.... wouldn't ya just know it the tow truck was busy for several hours.... during the funeral the scum planned to protest.

[Chip12414]

Baptist Minister Reverend Mike Huckabee is making nearly identical claims with respect to the Newton school killings as is the Westboro Baptist Church, only Huckabee is saying it on national TV and not on-site.

Huckabee Says the Connecticut school massacre occurred because we ‘Removed God From Our Schools’.

Really? Is that how his God works?

[Joshua_me]

meh.

As far as I'm concerned, paying them no mind is the best revenge.

"Fags are burning in Hell" "God love AIDS" "Soldiers Are Doomed".

Yeah, whatever...

Their "shock value" has long since died away, and they look like the ignorant, inbred idiots that they are...

They are not worth my time, and they are not worth yours, either. Turn the anger that you may feel toward them into pity. That is about the only thing they deserve.

[T-Rexx]

I'm not sure why everyone obsesses over the Westboro Baptist Church.

They're a bunch of publicity hounds willing to say anything outrageous that might attract attention to themselves. So, of course, they say the most outrageous thing they can think of. Only, they have only one outrageous thing to say. One. Their playbook has only one play in it, and that is all they've been calling for years. They are absolutely predictable. They have nothing to say, and they just keep repeating that nothing over and over and over again.

[Constantine]

I heard the hackers of Anonymous provided the names, numbers, and emails of all the members of WBC so the public could contact them personally and let them know what they think of their planned protest.

[White Eagle]

That's no excuse for emotional assault.

Jack's link to wikipedia on Fred Phelps shows this. Maybe they will be able to keep them away from the funeral and/or arrest them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps

--snip --

In response to Phelps' protests at military funerals, President George W. Bush signed the Respect for America's Fallen Heroes Act into law in May 2006,[1] and, in April 2007, Kansas governor Kathleen Sebelius signed into law a bill establishing a 150-foot no-picketing buffer zone around funerals.[2]

[Kulindahr]

Baptist Minister Reverend Mike Huckabee is making nearly identical claims with respect to the Newton school killings as is the Westboro Baptist Church, only Huckabee is saying it on national TV and not on-site.

Huckabee Says the Connecticut school massacre occurred because we ‘Removed God From Our Schools’.

Really? Is that how his God works?

Only in warped minds. Theologically, Huckabee isn't a Christian, he's a blood-and-wrath Jew from the time before the great Prophets.

[Kulindahr]

Jack's link to wikipedia on Fred Phelps shows this. Maybe they will be able to keep them away from the funeral and/or arrest them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps

--snip --

I like this one:

Florida increased the penalty for disturbing military funerals, amending a previous ban on the disruption of lawful assembly

Since peaceful assemblies are protected under the Constitution, limitations in order to protect them seem sensible -- in fact that's the rationale behind many restrictions on where and how protest marches may be conducted, such as keeping on the sidewalk and not passing through other areas being peacefully occupied such as parks with picnickers.

[Kulindahr]

BTW, I think the only reason the Phelps prevailed in the SCOTUS decision was that the argument presented focused too narrowly on the damage caused by the specific message of the Phelps klan, rather than on the disruption from hateful and spiteful intrusion. That allowed the Court to reject the claim on the basis that a particular message was being stifled, rather than that the right to privacy at a funeral was being protected. If they'd crafted the law and the appeal on the more general basis, so it didn't matter if it was Christians, Muslims, Jews, or whoever, bringing a hateful message to any funeral, I think they'd have gotten a 5-4 decision in favor.

This kind of protection can be done. But so long as lawmakers write laws in a hurry instead of carefully after deliberation the courts are going to see the flaws and toss them out.

[iwantbig]

maybe you should all show uo in moral support of the families , and bash the shit out of those fuckheads in your grief , no one would blame you ,

[White Eagle]

^^I think there may be 20 Dads that will do it. Or the Mothers! Ya ever saw a pissed off woman?

[Kulindahr]

Local employers ought to offer a day off with pay to anyone willing to go make a human wall between funeral and Phelps Klan.

[xbuzzerx]

Don't forget that the members of the WBC are part of the big tent of the democrat party.

All registered democrats.

Yeah, one more thing. They make their funding by selling books and software to lawyers.

So we're a closed tent party when we say we don't approve of people showing up and celebrating a soldier's death because he served a homosexual-tolerating nation?

That's fine. If our tent needs to be that wide to get your approval, narrow tent is okay with me.

You're welcome to embrace those people.

[Jack Springer]

^^^

Did you just wake up from your long winter's nap?

[Kulindahr]

So have they actually shown up?

[palbert]

On the WBC front, Anonymous has their communications compromised. Via Tweet:

The Westboro Baptist Church is so afraid of #Anonymous, that they have their websites all redirecting to an extremely minimal page.

[Kulindahr]

On the WBC front, Anonymous has their communications compromised. Via Tweet:

Anonymous has their moments. This is one.