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    Re: Attack on American Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi [MERGED]

    I'm not histrionic about Benghazi or anything, and don't think it's high on the list of major government scandals, but it does seem like the talking points were purposefully edited to downplay terrorism and instead blame the whole thing on a shitty anti-Islamic video... I'd love to know where that push came from and why.

    (side note, as offensive and stupid as that video was, I can't believe that the director would have been sentenced to a year in jail for using a false alias if not for the connection drawn between that video and the Benghazi attack by the State Department)

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    Re: Attack on American Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi [MERGED]

    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    Just what exactly is the scandal all about anyway? Exactly what terrible thing did Hillary Clinton and President Obama do I.
    1. refused aid to a consulate while it was under attack;
    2. ordered a rescue team to stand down;
    3. tried to lay the blame on a video;
    4. lied about everything, then lied about having lied;

    If either Bill Clinton or George Bush had been president when this cover-up happened, the Obama media would have gone into a feeding frenzy.

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    Why isn't there as much effort to get the ones who did the attacks than pointing fingers at the President and former Secretary of State? I don't see anything about the attackers.

    So you see why everyone knows this Benghazi "scandal" is nothing more than an exploitation of the death of an American ambassador and 3 others by republicans to discredit the Obama and Clinton. Republicans say nothing about the attackers.

    The scandal is the politicization of these deaths by republicans.

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    I just saw Obama say again, and again, that the same thing as said before was said again. The Attackers need to be found and tried. There is nothing but GOP talking about Oama and Clinton to discredit them, especially Clinton since she will most likely be the Presidential candidate and will win, win, win, no matter what the GOOP says. There, that was a typing error, but I'm not gonna correct it. GOOP looks good.

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    I tweeted to Paul Ryan recently. "WHy don't you fund embassy security instead of using dead bodies for political footballs. #disgrace"

    He didnt respond the fucking weasel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryReardon View Post
    If either Bill Clinton or George Bush had been president when this cover-up happened, the Obama media would have gone into a feeding frenzy.
    Did you get this "thought" from
    1. George Will
    2. Frank Luntz
    3. Newsbusters
    4. All of the above?

    Just askin'.

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    omg. how much longer lord? how much longer?

    The one thing that I would point out to those who seek to weaken Hilary's chances. Scandals don't touch her....they make her stronger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loki81 View Post
    I'm not histrionic about Benghazi or anything, and don't think it's high on the list of major government scandals, but it does seem like the talking points were purposefully edited to downplay terrorism and instead blame the whole thing on a shitty anti-Islamic video... I'd love to know where that push came from and why.

    (side note, as offensive and stupid as that video was, I can't believe that the director would have been sentenced to a year in jail for using a false alias if not for the connection drawn between that video and the Benghazi attack by the State Department)
    You have intellectual honesty, a quality sorly lacking in here. It wouldn't be such a great scandal if the Administration just came out with everything and laid their cards on the table. First they wouldn't talk while it was under investigation, including a shoddy insider kiss my ass by foprmer Ambassador Thomas Pickering for Hillary Clinton. Now according to Jay Carney, the president and others "It happened a long time ago" and "It's distracting to the real business at hand for the country". The whole thing stinks...now fairly I have to say again that actions by ANY administration that might be wrongheaded should be taken seriously and investigated responsibly in as non partisan a manner as possible. You can't have moral credibiity by pounding on the opposite's sides transgressions while coddling, ignoring, or assenting to those whose policies you support. It's a serious enough scandal... it just lays bare the total lack of character of this President and his Administration as a convenient scapegoat... not a good man but still one used as a political pawn.. is essentially punished by prison while the perpetrators of the Benghazi attack haven't been touched, haven't been punished, haven't even felt the threat of having to take account for their accounts.

    Years from now just how bankrupt of character Barack Obama is will be evident to just about everyone with a modicum of honesty or sense. History will likely be unkind to Bush too, but the here and now is Obama and as I've compared him before he's the Wizard of Oz of American politics. Go to him for hope, change, renewal, righting all that is wrong with the country..the world even!!!!!!!!!! But open the curtain and he's just con man Professor Marvel, getting away with his act until the curtains drew ad the charade was exposed. The curtains are drawing on the President, but too many still mesmerized by his act are loking in the oher direction and allowing him an escape to elude and fool again.
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    Re: Attack on American Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi [MERGED]

    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    omg. how much longer lord? how much longer?


    Not only that, should Ms. Clinton meet an untimely death (heaven forbid) Benghazi would be hammered by the neocons posthumously . It will be then that we will learn that she really did kill Vince Foster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    I tweeted to Paul Ryan recently. "WHy don't you fund embassy security instead of using dead bodies for political footballs. #disgrace"

    He didnt respond the fucking weasel.
    This is the real scandal. The right wing exploiting these "4 dead americans", politicizing the attack.

    Why aren't they after those who attacked the embassy? You never hear anything about that.

    And Paul Ryan is a POS opportunist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    Why aren't they after those who attacked the embassy? You never hear anything about that.
    what should the House do to go after the terrorists that isn't being done already?

    not that visions of John Boehner tagging along with a Navy SEAL team on a covert mission aren't a really funny visual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    This is the real scandal. The right wing exploiting these "4 dead americans", politicizing the attack.

    Why aren't they after those who attacked the embassy? You never hear anything about that.

    And Paul Ryan is a POS opportunist.
    POS? Point of Sale opportunist?

    Yeah, why isn't the Obama administration going after those who attacked the the outpost at Benghazi. Excellent question Bob. Care to tell us?

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    Finally a little transparency ... it's a start.

    White House releases Benghazi e-mails

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/15/politi...ils/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Finally a little transparency ... it's a start.

    White House releases Benghazi e-mails

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/15/politi...ils/index.html
    And what did you learn from these newly released e-mails?

    I learned that ABC was a shill for the GOP. That the ABC reporter did not see the e-mails he quoted for his "scoop"; the quotes were supplied by a GOP operative. Surprise!!!

    Now, what about the scandal of the press lying?

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    Did you learn that from Rachel Maddow or Lawrence O'Donnell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Did you learn that from Rachel Maddow or Lawrence O'Donnell?
    NO, I learned this from the mainstream media, you know, NBC and CBS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterB View Post
    NO, I learned this from the mainstream media, you know, NBC and CBS.
    Oh c'mon... you know only Fox, Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh speak the truth. All the others are the liberal media and need to be dismissed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    Oh c'mon... you know only Fox, Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh speak the truth. All the others are the liberal media and need to be dismissed.
    Right! It was interesting to see ABC try and gloss over this error. Seems CNN and ABC have a lot in common--screw the facts, just get the scoop first!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterB View Post
    Right! It was interesting to see ABC try and gloss over this error. Seems CNN and ABC have a lot in common--screw the facts, just get the scoop first!
    Now that it's becoming more clear that this BENGHAZI "scandal" was nothing more than attack on Clinton and Obama, the real media outlets will report the truth. Right now it's the right wing propaganda machine talking point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    Now that it's becoming more clear that this BENGHAZI "scandal" was nothing more than attack on Clinton and Obama, the real media outlets will report the truth. Right now it's the right wing propaganda machine talking point.
    Precisely Bob. It seems to me that since they couldn't take Obama down during the election, the repubs decided they'll just rant and rave at everything. Kinda like throwing everything you can and hoping something sticks. It's really comical to see these folks frothing at the mouth...remember Ashley Judd? She didn't even run, yet boy did McConnell and his boys fear her potential as a challenger.

    I believe that Hilary Clinton, if she wants to be, will be President in 2016. Her popularity polling numbers are off the chart compared to other potential candidates.

    It was no coincidence that she did not wish to remain in the second Obama term as a cabinet secretary. By the time the next presidential cycle begins in 2015, the Benghazi truth will be known. They will try and try to smear her, but she'll be time enough for any of the repubs nonsense.
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    Re: Attack on American Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi [MERGED]

    It's like Clinton. They want to find something,anything to throw at Obama so they can get rid of him.

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    It's like Reagan, Bush 41, Bush 43. They want to find something .. anything to throw at them so they can get rid of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyBob View Post
    Now that it's becoming more clear that this BENGHAZI "scandal" was nothing more than attack on Clinton and Obama, the real media outlets will report the truth. Right now it's the right wing propaganda machine talking point.
    You need to listen to Morning Joe (it's on right now), CNN, read the NYT, Washington Post. They are asking questions, trying to find out what happened that night. The release of the emails have gaps and none addressed the reason why a youtube video was blamed.

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    The FBI is still investigating. Will they still be investigating 3 years from now? I'm guessing yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    The FBI is still investigating. Will they still be investigating 3 years from now? I'm guessing yes.
    I'm guessing they will be investigating so long as there is a Tea Party.

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    BENGHAZI!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by palbert View Post
    … we have yet to hear if the Libya and Benghazi dustup was consequent of transiting weapons to Syrian rebels, to which many allusions have been made and squelched.
    Quote Originally Posted by opinterph View Post
    I honestly don’t recall hearing that. Who did the squelching?
    Quote Originally Posted by palbert View Post
    The allegation keeps surfacing at the edges. That it does so and is not dismissed openly thinks it constitutes a look under the CIA blanket. Upon thought it makes sense to arm al-Qaeda in Syria: who else is there to arm?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Why do you think the Administration doesn't want to talk about Benghazi? They were carrying on a gun running operation something like Col Oliver North did during the Reagan Administration.

    However the media has chosen not to do much reporting on it.

    I haven’t been successful in discovering much of substance about this, but invite additional commentary.

    Quote Originally Posted by palbert View Post
    (From the linked article)

    It is highly plausible that Benghazi was indeed a CIA-run, arms “buy-back” program – with the further “possible” intent of forwarding those arms to Syria. As the State Department has confirmed, it allocated $40 million dollars for the purchase and “collection” of arms used during the conflict in Libya, including a “missing” stockpile of up to 20,000 MANPADS – which at least 15,000 are still unaccounted for. A report written by former US special forces operatives who served in Libya titled “Benghazi: the definitive report”, alleges that the “consulate” and weapons stockpile program was entirely run by John Brennan – Obama’s National Security Advisor at the time and now Director of the CIA – and outside the usual CIA chain of command with the sole purpose of “moving the stockpiled weapons to the another conflict – possibly Syria”.

    - See more at: http://www.globalresearch.ca/cia-gun....qiR7WeE2.dpuf
    Does anyone know the manufacturing source-country of the MANPADS referenced in the article?

    Twenty-five countries, including the United States, produce man-portable air defense systems. [Wiki]
    It appears that there may have been an effort to purchase these (and other such weapons) from entities in Libya – perhaps similar to a “gun buyback program” here in the US. If true, that part of the equation seems reasonable to me.

    I am somewhat mystified that the report written by former US special service operatives is not available online without paying a fee. If the information it reveals is indubitably important and helpful, it seems that it should be offered to the general public freely and without constraint. There are certainly excerpts and quotes online, but why not make the whole thing available? As I understand, it is only 75 pages.

    At any rate, it is perhaps important to denote the significance of the possible/alleged transfer of MANPADS to Syrian opposition forces. If true, would that represent a breach of protocol and if so, how?

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    Quote Originally Posted by opinterph View Post
    .... Does anyone know the manufacturing source-country of the MANPADS referenced in the article? ....
    Libya is thought to have purchased 15,000 - 20,000 Soviet MANPADS.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-...ing-in-action/

    http://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/manpads

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    Quote Originally Posted by opinterph View Post




    I haven’t been successful in discovering much of substance about this, but invite additional commentary.



    Does anyone know the manufacturing source-country of the MANPADS referenced in the article?



    It appears that there may have been an effort to purchase these (and other such weapons) from entities in Libya – perhaps similar to a “gun buyback program” here in the US. If true, that part of the equation seems reasonable to me.

    I am somewhat mystified that the report written by former US special service operatives is not available online without paying a fee. If the information it reveals is indubitably important and helpful, it seems that it should be offered to the general public freely and without constraint. There are certainly excerpts and quotes online, but why not make the whole thing available? As I understand, it is only 75 pages.

    At any rate, it is perhaps important to denote the significance of the possible/alleged transfer of MANPADS to Syrian opposition forces. If true, would that represent a breach of protocol and if so, how?
    Do you understand now why people are upset about not getting information about what happened at Benghazi?

    The Administration will not even release how many people were hurt or tell the families of the dead how they died.

    Sounds like they are hiding something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Do you understand now why people are upset about not getting information about what happened at Benghazi?

    The Administration will not even release how many people were hurt or tell the families of the dead how they died.

    Sounds like they are hiding something.
    I understand how it is possible to characterize the incident ďcontroversialĒ and why that may be useful to the Presidentís political adversaries. Speaking of information, do you have any additional substance to share that will help us better understand the situation posited via these elements of contention?

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    The lid on the CIA component of the Benghazi is being kept very tight.

    “Since January, some CIA operatives involved in the agency’s missions in Libya, have been subjected to frequent, even monthly polygraph examinations, according to a source with deep inside knowledge of the agency’s workings,” the bombshell report reveals. “The goal of the questioning, according to sources, is to find out if anyone is talking to the media or Congress.”
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...hazi-secrets/#

    Speculation on Capitol Hill has included the possibility the U.S. agencies operating in Benghazi were secretly helping to move surface-to-air missiles out of Libya, through Turkey, and into the hands of Syrian rebels.
    http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2013/08...nghazi-attack/

    (To me, Capitol Hill speculation is a way of saying the state of affairs under the table.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by palbert View Post
    (To me, Capitol Hill speculation is a way of saying the state of affairs under the table.)
    Regardless of the veracity associated with what may have actually taken place, what would be the primary significance identified with the moving of Soviet-made MANPADS to the Syrian opposition?

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    Quote Originally Posted by opinterph View Post
    Regardless of the veracity associated with what may have actually taken place, what would be the primary significance identified with the moving of Soviet-made MANPADS to the Syrian opposition?
    1. We hide our direct connection.
    2. We get the arms out of Libya.
    3. We get the arms to Syria, which gets weapons from Russia, and thus there is familiarity with the weapon and needed parts and ammunition.
    4. If the conflict subsides, the arms may well pivot vs. Russian interests.
    5. See Iran Contra.
    6. If we put no "no-fly" into effect, the only aircraft to engage are Syrian.
    7 We know their operational characteristics but have not disclosed ours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by palbert View Post
    1. We hide our direct connection.
    Our connection to what?


    Quote Originally Posted by palbert View Post
    2. We get the arms out of Libya.
    Seems like a good idea.


    Quote Originally Posted by palbert View Post
    3. We get the arms to Syria, which gets weapons from Russia, and thus there is familiarity with the weapon and needed parts and ammunition.
    And that familiarity probably reduces the training required to prepare the recipients of those weapons for their use and maintenance.


    Quote Originally Posted by palbert View Post
    4. If the conflict subsides, the arms may well pivot vs. Russian interests.
    Or we could buy them back yet again and send them to the next group we want to support who may also have familiarity with the weapons and their parts, etc.


    Quote Originally Posted by palbert View Post
    5. See Iran Contra.
    I donít understand your mention of Iran Contra. Hasnít the US publicly announced an intention to arm the opposition forces?


    Quote Originally Posted by palbert View Post
    6. If we put no "no-fly" into effect, the only aircraft to engage are Syrian.
    Does arming the opposition forces with surface to air missiles decrease the likelihood that we could be successful in instituting a no-fly zone over Syria?


    Quote Originally Posted by palbert View Post
    7 We know their operational characteristics but have not disclosed ours.
    Operational characteristics of the weapons or something else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by opinterph View Post
    Our connection to what?

    Seems like a good idea.

    And that familiarity probably reduces the training required to prepare the recipients of those weapons for their use and maintenance.

    Or we could buy them back yet again and send them to the next group we want to support who may also have familiarity with the weapons and their parts, etc.

    I don’t understand your mention of Iran Contra. Hasn’t the US publicly announced an intention to arm the opposition forces?

    Does arming the opposition forces with surface to air missiles decrease the likelihood that we could be successful in instituting a no-fly zone over Syria?

    Operational characteristics of the weapons or something else?
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    Being asked to explain random stated expressions is not something suited to any JUB poster.

    I found it ironic a key member of the supposed Benghazi cover up was confirmed by the Senate today (maybe it was yesterday) ... regardless they confirmed the woman without even a discussion of the matter. Obviously the republicans understand how little water their election year Benghazi bucket holds when they wont even obstruct a nomination.
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    I`m sure that Faux Noise was absolutely disappointed that there were no Terrorist attacks on US interests this week.

    It destroys the narrative.

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    Hola Bitches. Long time no see.

    Still at it are we.

    BENGAZI!!!!!!!

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    Still at it are we [?]
    The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee will hear public testimony next Thursday (September 19), which will include former Admiral Mike Mullen, Ambassador Thomas Pickering, two independent reviewers of the findings of the Accountability Review Board, and family members of the victims who died.

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    Re: Attack on American Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi [MERGED]

    I was referring to this thread.

    Do you think someone is going to change their mind.

    Ever the optimist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TX-Beau View Post
    I was referring to this thread.

    Do you think someone is going to change their mind.

    Ever the optimist?
    Oh, I donít know about changing minds; however, I was optimistic to gain additional insight regarding the possible nexus between Libyan arms purchases, Iran Contra, and supplying arms to the Syrian opposition. It would seem that more information is better, dontchaknow.

    Then again, maybe itís all just an exercise in obtusity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by opinterph View Post
    Oh, I don’t know about changing minds; however, I was optimistic to gain additional insight regarding the possible nexus between Libyan arms purchases, Iran Contra, and supplying arms to the Syrian opposition. It would seem that more information is better, dontchaknow.

    Then again, maybe it’s all just an exercise in obtusity. ...
    Unfortunately, until people talk, until the classified is unclassified and until the fog rises above this event, we are left only with surmise. Were it otherwise I would gladly sit down with you, in front of a fire, with a snifter of brandy, and tell the tale.

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    Re: Attack on American Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi [MERGED]

    Quote Originally Posted by opinterph View Post
    The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee will hear public testimony next Thursday (September 19), which will include former Admiral Mike Mullen, Ambassador Thomas Pickering, two independent reviewers of the findings of the Accountability Review Board, and family members of the victims who died.
    And at the end of the day,no on e is going to change their minds. People are going to hear what they want to hear.
    And I'll be blunt,if the Republicans run Rand Paul or Ted Cruz as their candidate and Hilary runs as well,no one is going to care about Benganzi.
    The groups Rand Paul and Ted Cruz have already smeared (the poor,blacks,LGBT,moderates etc) aren't going to be swayed by the four families of the victims any more then people were by the Newtown families on gun control.
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    ^^

    So why not release the information?

    If not the public ... why not to the families? What could be so important to national security that the Administration cannot tell the families how their loved ones died?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    ^^

    So why not release the information?

    If not the public ... why not to the families? What could be so important to national security that the Administration cannot tell the families how their loved ones died?
    I'm not sure how they died is at issue. It's pretty obvious.

    I think we should know why.

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    I'm not sure how they died is at issue. It's pretty obvious.

    I think we should know why.
    They died because they were working security at a US consulate in an unstable country that came under attack. It's pretty clear. The risk to life and limb is made clear to these people well in advance of their arrival in country. They are there to guard US personnel and interests regardless of what those are. It doesn't make a difference whether they were there working on arms transfers or having a dinner party for the Benghazi elite.

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    Re: Attack on American Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi [MERGED]

    ^^

    So why doesn't the Administration want to talk about it with the families or the American people?

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    ^^

    So why doesn't the Administration want to talk about it with the families or the American people?
    Are the families not aware that their loved ones were killed in the line of duty in Benghazi, Libya due to an attack on the compound(s) they were protecting? It seems to me that's all the families really need to know, but I would like to hear what it is they aren't being told. I'm thinking it's more of a case of Republicans who have failed to create any kind of controversy around this using them as political pawns in further attempts to try to get this to gain some traction.

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    Are the families not aware that their loved ones were killed in the line of duty in Benghazi, Libya due to an attack on the compound(s) they were protecting? It seems to me that's all the families really need to know, but I would like to hear what it is they aren't being told. I'm thinking it's more of a case of Republicans who have failed to create any kind of controversy around this using them as political pawns in further attempts to try to get this to gain some traction.
    I thin if this was an Iran Contra type operation, the - and we - have the right to know. So long as hints and rumors scurry around under the coverage blanket my concerns will be undiminished.

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    Re: Attack on American Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi [MERGED]

    Since there will never be any way to "prove" you know everything, and since rumors will scurry forever unfounded or not, prepare to be concerned forever.

    Or is that exactly the point of this particular "concern."
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