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    laziness and basically not feeling like doing shit.

    you know, anybody can relate?

    me, it's nice and fuzzy outside, just kidding it's 30 something degrees outside i think. there's plenty of things to do, i have to pm everybody that messaged me back so i apologize for not getting back to everybody as soon as possible, have to check the email where i have to respond back as well, have to get busy studying for the lsat, filling out job applications, and etc BUT I DON'T FEEL LIKE NOR DO I FEEL I HAVE THE ENERGY OR CAN GET MYSELF TO DO SHIT BESIDES JERK OFF AND WEBSURF.

    i would blame it on masturbation, lack of sleep as i've had the long term habit of going to bed late ever since i was in the single digits where i had the problem of not being able to fall asleep, or whatever you can think of BUT i really don't know wtf is wrong with me which keeps me from wanting to do things. i used to have a lot of energy as a kid where i can do 101 things and feel great BUT now it comes and goes from time to time where one or two days i'm ready to take on the world and do what i have to do. then there's days like today where i feel like doing nothing even though i'm supposed to do something.

    oh gawd, then to top it off, i start feeling anxious whenever it comes to deal with people and etc. i don't know. i used to take some vitamin pills to get me moving or whatever and back then, i used to eat sugar in order to make me have energy and act alive in high school as i was literally a zombie.

    any solutions or whatever?
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    Re: laziness and basically not feeling like doing shit.

    I can totally relate. I never know how to snap out of it until I get in the proper mood again. With me, it's not depression though, it's just distraction.

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    Re: laziness and basically not feeling like doing shit.

    You've described me about 2 months ago - which is why I'm now being treated for depression and avoidance personality disorder. Am now starting to feel hell of a lot better - not normal, but a lot better!

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    Re: laziness and basically not feeling like doing shit.

    Quote Originally Posted by RazorzEdge88 View Post
    I can totally relate. I never know how to snap out of it until I get in the proper mood again. With me, it's not depression though, it's just distraction.
    distractions are also annoying. it's like there's something important that needs doing but it's fucking boring or tiring. that's why i'll be on the computer all day long and get all annoyed trying to study or clean up or whatever.

    Quote Originally Posted by quasar View Post
    You've described me about 2 months ago - which is why I'm now being treated for depression and avoidance personality disorder. Am now starting to feel hell of a lot better - not normal, but a lot better!
    heard about that thing. didn't know that it was a real disorder though. isn't it like anxiety or something like that?
    one thing about the closet/you don't have to hurry/it will be bad tomorrow/so brother, don't you worry

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    Quote Originally Posted by refujiunderground View Post
    distractions are also annoying. it's like there's something important that needs doing but it's fucking boring or tiring. that's why i'll be on the computer all day long and get all annoyed trying to study or clean up or whatever.
    I played Starcraft all last week, forcing myself to pull an all-nighter on my final paper. Smart decisions!

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    Re: laziness and basically not feeling like doing shit.

    Gotta say Refujii.

    You've been in this funk before.

    Here's where you start.

    See a doctor. You are exhibiting all the signs of depression. We all know that. If you need to take an SRI, then take it.

    For sleep, I would suggest that you ask your doc about trazadone which is non-addictive but helped me turn my nights into sound sleep and allows me to wake up every day with more energy and less effort.

    Get your days and nights sorted out. Make a schedule for this and then stick to it. In bed, electronics off by 10pm every night and then up early.

    Cut out all the coke and other junk drinks. Totally. And anything else with HFCS or lots of sugar. Cut out the salty snacks with msg in them. All of them. Seriously. They are fucking your pancreas up bad.

    Oh and no weed.

    Get out and find something to volunteer doing in your neighbourhood for at least 2-3 hours per day. Get engaged. Start studying at a library not with your hand around your dick in your bedroom. It will help discipline you.

    Make a proper schedule for studying with goals marked out. Check off these goals.


    Oh. And trust me. I hear ya. I have hit an end of year wall, where after 12 months of pure torture and existential misery, I am struggling these days to keep any kind of focus on office affairs and job management. Yesterday I worked on over 20 projects that we have current in the office (avg 24 minutes per project)...and by the end of the day I was so unfocussed and exhausted that today I also feel lazy and listless.

    Thank God that it isn't raining or snowing or cloudy today or I would likely not even open the drapes in my office...

    good luck with your LSATS. Now turn off the porn and get back to work.
    Last edited by rareboy; December 13th, 2012 at 01:43 PM.

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    Re: laziness and basically not feeling like doing shit.

    Quote Originally Posted by refujiunderground View Post
    ..heard about that thing. didn't know that it was a real disorder though. isn't it like anxiety or something like that?
    Some regard it as a distinct disorder, others don't. My doctor used the phrase more so that I could understand what was going on. APD is normally a lifelong issue, whereas mine shows when I'm going through a bad time - however, yes, it is basically an anxiety issue. It's like I go into Post-Traumatic Stress after a stressful event or series of events. I start some counselling in the New Year to deal with my current issues, and also start Cognitive Behavioural Therapy which will teach me mechanisms to deal with any reocurrances in the future.

    Like yourself, during these episodes while I may struggle with people in the real world, I function perfectly well online as I'm not having to deal with people face to face or in a real social environments.

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    Re: laziness and basically not feeling like doing shit.

    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    Gotta say Refujii.

    You've been in this funk before.

    Here's where you start.

    See a doctor. You are exhibiting all the signs of depression. We all know that. If you need to take an SRI, then take it.

    For sleep, I would suggest that you ask your doc about trazadone which is non-addictive but helped me turn my nights into sound sleep and allows me to wake up every day with more energy and less effort.

    Get your days and nights sorted out. Make a schedule for this and then stick to it. In bed, electronics off by 10pm every night and then up early.

    Cut out all the coke and other junk drinks. Totally. And anything else with HFCS or lots of sugar. Cut out the salty snacks with msg in them. All of them. Seriously. They are fucking your pancreas up bad.

    Oh and no weed.

    Get out and find something to volunteer doing in your neighbourhood for at least 2-3 hours per day. Get engaged. Start studying at a library not with your hand around your dick in your bedroom. It will help discipline you.

    Make a proper schedule for studying with goals marked out. Check off these goals.


    Oh. And trust me. I hear ya. I have hit an end of year wall, where after 12 months of pure torture and existential misery, I am struggling these days to keep any kind of focus on office affairs and job management. Yesterday I worked on over 20 projects that we have current in the office (avg 24 minutes per project)...and by the end of the day I was so unfocussed and exhausted that today I also feel lazy and listless.

    Thank God that it isn't raining or snowing or cloudy today or I would likely not even open the drapes in my office...

    good luck with your LSATS. Now turn off the porn and get back to work.
    first off, i want to say thank you for giving me advice to help with this as well as before when i made threads related to the same thing in the past. this is going to be lengthy so don't expect you or anybody else to read this.

    i actually have been able to secure myself some free care from a hospital around the way concerning psych help. this coming monday, i'm supposed to get referred to this mood management program or something like that. i also have an appointment to get a psychiatric evaluation on january 17th.

    i've been cutting back from the junk food and etc. not recently though BUT i've been trying to do it. it's that when i was cutting back from it, i just felt weird and even worse.

    i also tried to experiment with going to sleep early. i usually try to keep myself awake where i don't fall asleep during the daytime so it's easier to sleep at night since i used to sleep during the day. i have the habit of listening to music while i'm in bed. for some reason, i love to do it as i find it stimulating at night. however, there's a bad effect to that as i end up feeling the need to get out of bed constantly and look at the clock which is basically something anxiety related.

    i'm going to try out your advice pertaining to going to the library to study for the lsat even though one of my problems is i can't seem to concentrate completely and i find myself getting irritated where my feet starts to feel funny. i dunno what the deal with that is. i would love to be able to study my ass off but the concentration level isn't there.

    i'll admit that in a way despite these issues coming into the way of my life and it's been like that since i was in junior high, i find myself getting scared to change as i've gotten used to being this way. it's a sick cycle. it's like at first when i was 13 and going through all this, i couldn't manage at all and i was looking for help but the people around me didn't get it or see anything wrong with me. so i pretty much thought it was something that i could handle on my own and i tried to cope with this in my own way even though now, i realize that as you said, that might have been a mental problem all along. over time, i've grown used to being like this and it's affected my life. what gets me is that the people around me such as my mother, my brother, my friends, and etc either don't want to understand or like me for the way that i am now. i've been asking for my mom's support for the longest concerning this and she's been trying her hardest to brush it off or to say that i have control over this where i can snap myself out of it. it actually has angered me over time because i feel that they're NOT listening to me.

    i felt the same way in regards to coming out where they wouldn't get me or listen especially my mom. i actually expected it to be brushed off as her thinking that i want attention or am going through another phase. i dunno what if it's because she's been paranoid since i was a child where i couldn't talk or walk and had developmental delay issues where she doesn't want to believe that there's something wrong with me BUT in a sense, i feel that she is being selfish in a way thinking about herself in regards to my well being. i've been asking for her support and she didn't seem interested so i've been trying to work the courage to do it myself.

    it's that this whole thing irks me. i want to get better but my own mind is working against me and it seems like even the people in my circle seem to not be supportive either BUT yet they want me to be a better person. my mom is a huge example. i tell her that i might have a problem and she's like "you're making excuses".
    one thing about the closet/you don't have to hurry/it will be bad tomorrow/so brother, don't you worry

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    Re: laziness and basically not feeling like doing shit.

    Quote Originally Posted by RazorzEdge88 View Post
    I played Starcraft all last week, forcing myself to pull an all-nighter on my final paper. Smart decisions!
    i don't blame you at all for doing that. video games are too fun to resist. writing papers take time and a lot of energy. putting the right words, the right format, bibliographies and etc. it's a pain in the ass. school is a job in itself so there's nothing wrong with giving yourself a break even though there's schoolwork to be done. hope you get an A on your paper.
    one thing about the closet/you don't have to hurry/it will be bad tomorrow/so brother, don't you worry

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    Quote Originally Posted by quasar View Post
    Some regard it as a distinct disorder, others don't. My doctor used the phrase more so that I could understand what was going on. APD is normally a lifelong issue, whereas mine shows when I'm going through a bad time - however, yes, it is basically an anxiety issue. It's like I go into Post-Traumatic Stress after a stressful event or series of events. I start some counselling in the New Year to deal with my current issues, and also start Cognitive Behavioural Therapy which will teach me mechanisms to deal with any reocurrances in the future.
    Like yourself, during these episodes while I may struggle with people in the real world, I function perfectly well online as I'm not having to deal with people face to face or in a real social environments.
    how you feel about the whole treatment process though? are they going to give you meds to go along with the treatment?

    i'm going through the same thing like you as you already said but one thing i'll admit is that even online, i get anxious. like that's one of the reasons why i've been slacking with the private messages and emails. interacting with people online can sometimes feel just as stomach turning as doing it offline.
    one thing about the closet/you don't have to hurry/it will be bad tomorrow/so brother, don't you worry

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    Quote Originally Posted by refujiunderground View Post
    first off, i want to say thank you for giving me advice to help with this as well as before when i made threads related to the same thing in the past. this is going to be lengthy so don't expect you or anybody else to read this.

    i actually have been able to secure myself some free care from a hospital around the way concerning psych help. this coming monday, i'm supposed to get referred to this mood management program or something like that. i also have an appointment to get a psychiatric evaluation on january 17th.

    EXCELLENT

    i've been cutting back from the junk food and etc. not recently though BUT i've been trying to do it. it's that when i was cutting back from it, i just felt weird and even worse.

    IT IS WITHRAWAL. STICK WITH IT.

    i also tried to experiment with going to sleep early. i usually try to keep myself awake where i don't fall asleep during the daytime so it's easier to sleep at night since i used to sleep during the day. i have the habit of listening to music while i'm in bed. for some reason, i love to do it as i find it stimulating at night. however, there's a bad effect to that as i end up feeling the need to get out of bed constantly and look at the clock which is basically something anxiety related.

    Stop this. That is exactly what you don't want at night...stimulation. You need to shut down and just breathe.

    i'm going to try out your advice pertaining to going to the library to study for the lsat even though one of my problems is i can't seem to concentrate completely and i find myself getting irritated where my feet starts to feel funny. i dunno what the deal with that is. i would love to be able to study my ass off but the concentration level isn't there.

    It is Computer induced ADD. If you need to get up and walk, Do it. Walk around the block, breathe deep and then come back and concentrate. With ear buds. Or at least without music.

    i'll admit that in a way despite these issues coming into the way of my life and it's been like that since i was in junior high, i find myself getting scared to change as i've gotten used to being this way. it's a sick cycle. it's like at first when i was 13 and going through all this, i couldn't manage at all and i was looking for help but the people around me didn't get it or see anything wrong with me. so i pretty much thought it was something that i could handle on my own and i tried to cope with this in my own way even though now, i realize that as you said, that might have been a mental problem all along. over time, i've grown used to being like this and it's affected my life. what gets me is that the people around me such as my mother, my brother, my friends, and etc either don't want to understand or like me for the way that i am now. i've been asking for my mom's support for the longest concerning this and she's been trying her hardest to brush it off or to say that i have control over this where i can snap myself out of it. it actually has angered me over time because i feel that they're NOT listening to me.

    Don't be angry with them. They just don't understand. Keep looking for the support where you can get it.

    i felt the same way in regards to coming out where they wouldn't get me or listen especially my mom. i actually expected it to be brushed off as her thinking that i want attention or am going through another phase. i dunno what if it's because she's been paranoid since i was a child where i couldn't talk or walk and had developmental delay issues where she doesn't want to believe that there's something wrong with me BUT in a sense, i feel that she is being selfish in a way thinking about herself in regards to my well being. i've been asking for her support and she didn't seem interested so i've been trying to work the courage to do it myself.

    I think you need to work up to your plan of telling them. Maybe what you need to do after you've had some counselling support is to draft something for them to read that talks about all of this...and then tell them that if they want to talk about it, you are ready.

    it's that this whole thing irks me. i want to get better but my own mind is working against me and it seems like even the people in my circle seem to not be supportive either BUT yet they want me to be a better person. my mom is a huge example. i tell her that i might have a problem and she's like "you're making excuses".
    Parents with a limited frame of reference or who live in denial will often do this. They don't want to acknowledge frailties or face the possibility that everything isn't going to be as they always pictured it. Be patient. Be quiet. But start being positively assertive.


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    Quote Originally Posted by refujiunderground View Post
    how you feel about the whole treatment process though?
    You know, this is the 3rd bout of this that I've suffered in the last 20 years. On the other two occasions I was merely given medication (Zoloft) and not offered any counselling or therapy. This time around, my new doctor said that I could well have a predisposition to this and asked if I wanted to look at counselling as an option. After my evaluation, the assessor said that whilst one-to-one sessions would be good to help me out of this episode, the CBT would be ideal as it will help me deal with stressful situations and outcomes in the future.
    are they going to give you meds to go along with the treatment?
    Well, this is the thing. My doc said that (like my diabetes) I should consider that I'd be on meds for the rest of my life, but the assessor has said that I should stay on them for 8 months after I've finished the CBT and then withdraw because the CBT should prevent the need for them in the future. At the moment I'm happy to continue with the Zoloft (I've never had trouble coming off them in the past), and then withdraw as advised after my CBT.

    At the end of the day, I don't like being like this, because I KNOW what my life is like when I'm not like this. Of course I don't like the thought that I have a 'mental health' issue - I don't think anyone does - but I want to get back to normal and will accept whatever help I need. Sometimes we have to swallow our pride and accept help. Like you however, my mum doesn't really understand totally, and I don't think that anyone who hasn't been through something like this, does fully understand.

    You mentioned an interesting point about 'change'. Fear of change is probably one of the things that makes you anxious, and one of the things that this CBT is supposed to do is give me mechanisms to deal with change in a positive way rather than a negative way. It'll be interesting to hear what they say at your assessment.

    i'm going through the same thing like you as you already said but one thing i'll admit is that even online, i get anxious. like that's one of the reasons why i've been slacking with the private messages and emails. interacting with people online can sometimes feel just as stomach turning as doing it offline.
    There are times when I don't come online, but that's more from lack of enthusiasm and concentration than a 'fear' of doing so. I must admit that first thing in a morning I still suffer from the 'fear of impending doom', but that passes after about 30mins.

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    Re: laziness and basically not feeling like doing shit.

    Have a look at this: www.inoveryourhead.net I'm not impressed by self-help gurus, motivational speakers etc. but this appears to be an ordinary Joe handing on his personal insights as a public service. This one www.procrastinators-anonymous.org I'm not so sure about. It looks like an AA-style thing where you discuss your problems with fellow sufferers. You can get on JUB. Also it's full of stuff like 'visualization exercises' and you have to pay.
    Later on perhaps I'll come back and tell you my own tale of woe about inertia and where it's got me.
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