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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    Quote Originally Posted by stacy View Post
    Everyone has their own sense of attraction/what they like and that's really a good thing. But some people are more capable of falling in love with a person, not their outer being.

    I am not a lesbian, as I cannot see myself sexually involved with a woman. However, I could definitely see myself falling in love with a woman's personality.
    Ah yes, the wonderful foundation of the Myka Bering/Helena G. Wells love story that never truly came to fruition.

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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    It's more than just the appearance, it's the lifestyle. A drag queen likes to go out to the bars and clubs or other social events in drag. Their drag social circles build off of a lot of the bar scene, which is an environment I don't care for. I'm also not interested in having a boyfriend that feels he needs to perform when we go out. I think drag queens are great, but I have no interest in my boyfriend "acting like a diva" in front of me. Also, I'm sensitive about eye brows, and a lot of drag queens have to permanently shape their eyebrows into unnatural shapes that also affects their real, physical appearance.

    Their femininity doesn't bother me. I'll date a feminine guy. Besides, I know a lot of them are great in bed.
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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Idablows View Post
    There you have what? Once again, drag queens are in drag for a few hours a week. They're men outside of drag where they spend more than a majority of their time. Unless I misread the thread and it was asking if you would date a man IN drag, I don't see how a gay man would confuse a drag queen with a woman.
    I could be friends with a drag queen, in or out of drag. Unfortunately I wouldn't be attracted to one or want to date one. I just wouldn't have the same interests as someone who enjoys dressing up in drag. It's just not my cup of tea. I can't help it. Perhaps I'm too square or something.

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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    I'm not turned off. I find them entertaining. My good friend actually dresses in drag every year with his father. He's Italian, tall, nice build, really low voice, and has a very thick Brooklyn accent I guess meeting him is what made me somewhat embrace it.
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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    This thread would be better with pictures so we'd know what's being talked about.

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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    Are there any hairy drag queens?

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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    Quote Originally Posted by LeicsDom View Post
    PMSL Here in the UK things must be very different. Many drag queens here are tops or versatile. And invariably well hung for some reason.
    It isn't that different here....I knew alot of them and the majority I knew were tops/versatile. Maybe people stereotype more here in the US...we still have alot of that "spirit". There is alot of gender/role bias in both the straight and gay world.

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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    Of course this thread had to turn into some self-righteous debate. It's JUB!

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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    I know many, many straight guys who are not at all attracted to female bodybuilders-- to me it's kind of the same idea.
    I think that's a very good analogy as to my own feelings on not being sexually attracted to drag queens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M10000 View Post
    not many can do drag good


    guys like guys . . not girls
    That is fact. simple answer but true.


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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    ^shut it, fatty

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    ^ who are you calling fat?

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    Are there any hairy drag queens?
    The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence of San Francisco are hairy.

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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    Quote Originally Posted by RazorzEdge88 View Post
    ^shut it, fatty
    ummm i'm average 76kg ...


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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

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    ummm i'm average 76kg ...
    You could stand to lose a couple stone

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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    Quote Originally Posted by RazorzEdge88 View Post
    You could stand to lose a couple stone
    mmm ok, what weight are you?


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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    Most gay guys are turned off by fem guys. I watch Rupauls drag race and there are some guys that are cute out of drag that I would date.
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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    Drag queens are getting tha good D constantly


    I don't think they are worried about it


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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post



    The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence of San Francisco are hairy.
    Ah this is true, an office colleague of mine is one of them, and very hairy and manly (and sexy!), I didn't think of him...

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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    The image of a drag queen reinforces the publics image of all gay men being effeminate.
    I know people will shout down that attitude, but it takes a lot of shaking.
    Some of these DQs are simply ridiculous in their over exaggerated presentations.
    It is a live and let live world but my personal preference is for a full on masculine experience.

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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    Quote Originally Posted by genthree View Post
    The image of a drag queen reinforces the publics image of all gay men being effeminate.
    I know people will shout down that attitude, but it takes a lot of shaking.
    Some of these DQs are simply ridiculous in their over exaggerated presentations.
    It is a live and let live world but my personal preference is for a full on masculine experience.
    I think drag queens also reinforce the fear/stereotype in the straight mainstream that gay guys want to try to "fool" you into having sex with them.

    If you listen to straight guys talk the fear of the horror story of hooking up with a hot chick who then has a dick is, to them, pretty unsettling.

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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    I'm not. I'm just poor and prefer leather.

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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    Now I know why my happy birthday RuPaul thread didn't get any hits.

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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    Quote Originally Posted by CupidBoy View Post
    Now I know why my happy birthday RuPaul thread didn't get any hits.
    I missed RuPaul's fucking birthday AGAIN? damn it! but all seriousness aside, i'm not repulsed by DQs per se, I just hate the taste of foundation and eye shadow when i'm kissing my man...much rather feel his stubble on my cheek when we cuddle
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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    I think drag queens also reinforce the fear/stereotype in the straight mainstream that gay guys want to try to "fool" you into having sex with them.

    If you listen to straight guys talk the fear of the horror story of hooking up with a hot chick who then has a dick is, to them, pretty unsettling.
    That's exactly it. As I said in an earlier post: shades of The Crying Game.

    There have been lots of threads here from guys who have posed as females to 'get the straight guy', even if it's just naked photos of him. Drag may be an art form, but it's a form of deception as well.

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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    Quote Originally Posted by gsdx View Post
    There have been lots of threads here from guys who have posed as females to 'get the straight guy', even if it's just naked photos of him. Drag may be an art form, but it's a form of deception as well.
    Oh, honey! The difference between a perv posing as a woman online, in order to get straight-boy pix or cybersex, and an actual drag queen is the same as the difference between a con-man and a magician. All illusions are deception, on some level, but art shows truth through the deception.

    And if we're talking about transsexuals, who actually become women (or something akin to a woman, as far as hormones and surgery allow), that's a different beast entirely from drag queens. Some transsexuals are drag queens, but very few drag queens are transsexuals, if you see what I mean. Some may be so misguided as to try and fool a man into thinking she's a woman, but they're rare... almost an urban legend.

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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    Quote Originally Posted by LeicsDom View Post
    As I said, people confuse the stage persona with the real one

    A man dressing as a woman is a transvestite. A completely different thing to a drag queen
    I see the distinction but to clarify I would still be turned-off just knowing about the occasional drag. I knew a guy who was masculine but felt an urge to do drag about once per year. Then he'd start shaving his gorgeous thick black body hair and, well, you get the picture.

    I also knew a middle-aged masculine man in Atlanta who was attracted to women but liked to dress in drag sometimes on weekends and go to Lenox and shop as a woman.

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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Swellegant View Post
    Oh, honey! The difference between a perv posing as a woman online, in order to get straight-boy pix or cybersex, and an actual drag queen is the same as the difference between a con-man and a magician. All illusions are deception, on some level, but art shows truth through the deception.

    And if we're talking about transsexuals, who actually become women (or something akin to a woman, as far as hormones and surgery allow), that's a different beast entirely from drag queens. Some transsexuals are drag queens, but very few drag queens are transsexuals, if you see what I mean. Some may be so misguided as to try and fool a man into thinking she's a woman, but they're rare... almost an urban legend.
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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    I think drag queens also reinforce the fear/stereotype in the straight mainstream that gay guys want to try to "fool" you into having sex with them.

    If you listen to straight guys talk the fear of the horror story of hooking up with a hot chick who then has a dick is, to them, pretty unsettling.
    There are also straight guys who think just because you're gay that you're into them. You don't have to be a drag queen for some ignorant fool thinking you want to jump his bones just because of your sexuality. There is a mighty difference between a Drag Queen and someone who dresses up as a woman to trick the same gender to have sex with them. I honestly can't believe this kind of connection is attempting to be made.

    Plenty of people reinforce stereotypes, they exist. The problem isn't the stereotype it is the people who won't look beyond the stereotype to get to know people. The ones that will paint you with a brush regardless of how you act. Trust me, people will apply stereotypes regardless, that is what some people do they're lazy and ignorant.

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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    Quote Originally Posted by CupidBoy View Post
    Now I know why my happy birthday RuPaul thread didn't get any hits.

    Ru stays winning with a new season of Drag Race tho

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    I like the guy underneath, that is to say I am not physically attracted to women or female impersonators but that wouldn't stop me from going out with a drag queen because doing drag would be his job/part time gig so it wouldn't be an issue unless he was a transsexual wanting M to F reassignment surgery. Besides I think it would be fun supporting my bf at his drag shows and could be a fun conversation starter, "Do you guys know who Ms. Stake is?" "Uh no?" "Well you are in for a treat."

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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    Quote Originally Posted by RazorzEdge88 View Post
    Of course this thread had to turn into some self-righteous debate. It's JUB!


    This thread hasn't gotten serious enough, imo. I thought we'd be having a super heated masc/femme debate by now.

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    I think drag queens also reinforce the fear/stereotype in the straight mainstream that gay guys want to try to "fool" you into having sex with them.
    Drag queens are dangerous that way.


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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Believe18 View Post
    It's more than just the appearance, it's the lifestyle. A drag queen likes to go out to the bars and clubs or other social events in drag. Their drag social circles build off of a lot of the bar scene, which is an environment I don't care for.
    Again this is something that is completely different in the UK.
    Drag is a job over here and you don't find drag queens socialising.
    If a guy is out in a club or bar in drag they are either transvestites or rugby players

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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Adrock-JD View Post
    I also knew a middle-aged masculine man in Atlanta who was attracted to women but liked to dress in drag sometimes on weekends and go to Lenox and shop as a woman.
    That definately is a transvestite, not a drag queen

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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    Quote Originally Posted by tombastep View Post
    There are also straight guys who think just because you're gay that you're into them.
    There are also straight guys who will ONLY go with a DQ/TV because they can still kid themselves that they don't get attracted to men, even when they are being fucked!

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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    I guess that no one here found Angel to be cute ??



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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    I'm not turned off by them, just not turned on. As many have said earlier in the thread: a) Lifestyle - I engage in nightlife maybe four times a year, b) My 'bitchy persona quota' is 100% satisfied with depressing-ice-cream-binging-pick-me-up-Golden-Girls-marathons, c) I'm sexually versatile, not to assume...but most men I've met in drag are indeed bottom-only, d) I have a genuine suit/uniform/military fetish stemming from my deep-seeded issues with authority, so drag kind of kills that, e) I think purses are cumbersome and silly even for women, f) I absolutely love five o'clock shadows and enjoy making out with scruff, g) I don't 'get it'.

    I've never understood the mentality or desire behind drag. I'm not opposed to it, but I don't think I could ever be with a man that actively engaged in it on a frequent basis for the (superficial on my end) reasons stated above. I also don't feel like associating myself with any particular subculture in the gay community. It's not internalized homophobia by any means...I just like having my sexuality defined by liking other men, not the social activities I engage in.
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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    My personal opinion: I guess some are okay, but it takes
    a lot to pull off the look, and if you can't, best not try.

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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    I just haven't found the type of guy I'm into that also does drag. I think there are only two drag queens in life (so far) that I've been attracted to - Nina Flowers and India Ferrah. And neither of them would be attractive to me while in drag, makeup, whatever. I just am not attracted to females - psychological or biological.
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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    It's an interesting topic to discuss as it brings up the masculinity/femininity debate that's so popular here. I think dressing in drag takes it quite a few steps further, though. I would find a guy much less appealing if I knew that he was a drag queen. Visually it just is not what arouses me and I think it would impact how I perceive him. I find it hard to expect a certain response to this question with gay and bisexual men just because sexuality can be so fluid. Different strokes, as they say.

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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    Drag Queens date other Drag Queens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFallenAsexual View Post
    For the record, I wasn't implying that.

    I'm simply saying that the "I would never be able to get that image out of my mind!" sort of knee-jerk reaction implies something more than merely "just preference." Posters here are basically taking something someone does a few hours a week and making it into a summation of them as a person--seemingly ignorant of the concept of art or acting.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheFallenAsexual View Post
    I only used ignorant to describe those that don't realize it's an art form and draw untrue conclusions about the person's life outside of their art as a result. I find that to be very ignorant.



    Oh, I can understand that point of view. But the issues voiced in this thread were mainly effeminacy. Basically, if a guy were incredibly artsy in some other larger-than-life way that doesn't seem a threat to hyper-masculinity, then hey, it's all good.

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    Anyway, got my point across now. (And if it hasn't arrived yet, it never will) Gonna exit this one early.

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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    Quote Originally Posted by thatgirl View Post


    This thread hasn't gotten serious enough, imo. I thought we'd be having a super heated masc/femme debate by now.
    I see you didn't read the replies posted by TheFallenSelfRighteousOne up-thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronxp View Post
    Drag Queens date other Drag Queens?
    I'm sure some do, as I'm sure some gay men date them as well as some bisexual men! Yay for dating around....

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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    Quote Originally Posted by aaronxp View Post
    Drag Queens date other Drag Queens?
    I always wondered as well. Probably does.

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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    I do not date them because I am into more masculine men. I think Drag Queens are amazing and I love the really talented ones. I do still have a hard time reconciling How RuPaul looks in and out of Drag. Drag Queens to me are putting the emphasis on their feminine attributes and I am sure there are plenty of men who love that in Drag Queens. We just have our own tastes and basically can fall in love with Whomever. The tone of the thread seemed to make it seem that there is a huge backlash towards Drag Queens which I do not believe is true.

    Drag Queens definitely have value and fans out there. Gay men who like Effeminate guys go for guys who could do Drag and find it very appealing and vice-versa.

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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    I can't generalize in answering this question. Some guys are serious about it—



    and others are just kind of half-hearted and embarrassing because they use it as a mask to hide behind—


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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    I use to be very dragaphobic but have really leart to respect them they do have it hard I must admit.
    Will I date one to be honest I'm not really sure so I have to leave that option open. I have seen many drag out of drag and the guys are very attractive.

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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Idablows View Post
    But that's not really the issue that's here though. It's the idea that drag queens aren't men, which is why I bothered replying. An aversion to glam is completely fair, but implying that drag queens aren't "men" is ludicrous.
    Hmmm

    Look, you're new here still. You've yet to discover that some of the more vocal JUBbers don't even see guys who shave their pubes as men, saying they look like women.

    Apparently shaved pubic regions look EXACTLY like a vagina, in the gay biology textbook. Presumably the cock and balls which are there become invisible, or something.

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    Re: Why are gays so turned off by drag queens?

    Quote Originally Posted by aaronxp View Post
    Drag Queens date other Drag Queens?
    It happens... often with a Drama Tsunami as a result that fuels their melodrama for years.

    Queens need that for their bitchy and bitter attitudes.
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