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    Are you easily under estimate everything?

    Especially for knowledge/intellects. My question isn't apply for those who humble/ think they're not smart enough but this is for those who thinks he knows everything.

    I've seen some of jubbers here have that attitude, why would you think highly of yourself?- out of my curiosity.^^

    TBH..I choose to appear convincing in all my replies but I always open for new ideas, solutions, thoughts, concerns, etc. My conclusion over an issue always floating on the air, never fixed. Even the most sure thing still has a 0.001% gap for chance.

    That's why I somewhat confuse for those who dead-sure with their opinion. ToBeVerrrryy Honest with you, Im an atheist but Im still respect religious doctrine, that's where I got my dose of morality, from there.
    Throw me an example of bible story, then I'll automatically tracked the verse/ the ending/ characters in that story like a de javu^^ (Sunday school graduate here woot woot! )
    so therefore, I think Jesus isn't apply to modern life but his words still applicable 'till now..

    especially in relation to others.

    So, are you easily under estimate knowledge differ than yours?

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    Re: Are you easily under estimate everything?

    Of course! I never pay retail prices! There is no satisfaction if you don't bargain at Best Buy or McDonalds.

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    Re: Are you easily under estimate everything?

    I am lost. Are you asking if about people underestimating themselves or others?

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    Re: Are you easily under estimate everything?

    i would say i underestimate myself more than i underestimate others.
    one thing about the closet/you don't have to hurry/it will be bad tomorrow/so brother, don't you worry

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    Re: Are you easily under estimate everything?

    Sadly, being humble is not a desirable trait anymore. Everyone has/wants to be an expert of some sort, even if it's just shameless self promotion. Everybody has to be a somebody.
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    Re: Are you easily under estimate everything?

    My favorite people are those who have good reason to think what they do.

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    Re: Are you easily under estimate everything?

    I don't think anyone here will proudly claim that they know everything. However, in the company and misjudgements of other insecure people, they do appear like they know everything.

    How you see them may not necessarily mean that's how they see themselves.

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    Re: Are you easily under estimate everything?

    Quote Originally Posted by mikey3000 View Post
    Sadly, being humble is not a desirable trait anymore. Everyone has/wants to be an expert of some sort, even if it's just shameless self promotion. Everybody has to be a somebody.
    Case in point...
    Quote Originally Posted by SLOPPYSECONDS View Post
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    Re: Are you easily under estimate everything?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ram View Post
    I don't think anyone here will proudly claim that they know everything.
    Please explain Giancarlo that God is exist, make him doubt 0.01% in his mind of God possibility if you can

    However, in the company and misjudgements of other insecure people, they do appear like they know everything.
    That's not my pure mind think so..
    I think there is no absolute right over one's ideology, you know, for all kinds ideologies that came from human's mind. There is always room to grow, to listen, to learn new things/methods/possibilities

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    Re: Are you easily under estimate everything?

    Quote Originally Posted by mikey3000 View Post
    Sadly, being humble is not a desirable trait anymore. Everyone has/wants to be an expert of some sort, even if it's just shameless self promotion. Everybody has to be a somebody.
    There is a fine line between become an expertise ..than to be Mr. know it all

    I wish I can say in absolute truth that ISLAM IS SHIT RELIGION with no value..and Im just right, can I?

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    Re: Are you easily under estimate everything?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ram View Post
    I don't think anyone here will proudly claim that they know everything. However, in the company and misjudgements of other insecure people, they do appear like they know everything.

    How you see them may not necessarily mean that's how they see themselves.
    And many externally overcompensate for their internal insecurities. That's how they feel important, by belittling others.
    Inspired - but too tired.

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    Re: Are you easily under estimate everything?

    Quote Originally Posted by joswanprince View Post
    There is a fine line between become an expertise ..than to be Mr. know it all
    Expertise is real. Omniscience is rare.

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    Re: Are you easily under estimate everything?

    Quote Originally Posted by mikey3000 View Post
    And many externally overcompensate for their internal insecurities. That's how they feel important, by belittling others.
    is that has arrow pointing on my face or not?
    that's alright, say that directly.

    You might dont like the tone of my thread but the flaw of this thread is also an ideology to overcome other ideology. Eversince it's still in the same format then it'll automatically carrying flaw.
    And Im ok with that..really

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    Re: Are you easily under estimate everything?

    Quote Originally Posted by zoltanspawn View Post
    Expertise is real. Omniscience is rare.
    Who has omniscience? Jesus Christ, the God, course

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    Re: Are you easily under estimate everything?

    Quote Originally Posted by mikey3000 View Post
    And many externally overcompensate for their internal insecurities. That's how they feel important, by belittling others.
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    Re: Are you easily under estimate everything?

    ^
    actually a lot of peps are like that, some of them want to get profit
    some of them want to feel the attention
    some of them simply want the world to be better

    but we never know human's real intention.

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    Re: Are you easily under estimate everything?

    Quote Originally Posted by joswanprince View Post
    ^
    actually a lot of peps are like that, some of them want to get profit
    some of them want to feel the attention
    some of them simply want the world to be better

    but we never know human's real intention.
    i get agree with you on that.

    it's never good for someone to underestimate themselves a whole lot and it's most definitely never a good thing for someone to overestimate themselves a lot. either way, it shows that that person has self esteem issues. you have someone who can easily be kicked down where they don't even trust their own judgement, thinking they're just wrong where every criticism from somebody just makes them hate themselves even more or just become worse self confident wise. then you have someone who basically can't be told anything because their ego is so huge and they feel that everything against what they agree with is wrong.

    as for what mikey said, i agree with him a whole lot. you have so many so called "confident" people that feel the need to diss or put down other people in order to feel good about themselves. what point are they trying to prove by doing that? it's one thing to criticize someone to prove a point but it's one thing to take a swipe at them like you're belittling them or talking shit. to them, there's no such thing as simply coexisting with other folks where they can let them do whatever they do in peace.
    one thing about the closet/you don't have to hurry/it will be bad tomorrow/so brother, don't you worry

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    Re: Are you easily under estimate everything?

    Quote Originally Posted by mikey3000 View Post
    And many externally overcompensate for their internal insecurities. That's how they feel important, by belittling others.
    As a belitter of people, I disagree. True that there are people who need to bring others down to make themselves feel better but there are people who bring others down because they just simply do not care and/or do not tolerate stupidity well.

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    Re: Are you easily under estimate everything?

    it's never good for someone to underestimate themselves a whole lot and it's most definitely never a good thing for someone to overestimate themselves a lot. either way, it shows that that person has self esteem issues. you have someone who can easily be kicked down where they don't even trust their own judgement, thinking they're just wrong where every criticism from somebody just makes them hate themselves even more or just become worse self confident wise. then you have someone who basically can't be told anything because their ego is so huge and they feel that everything against what they agree with is wrong.
    Did you really sober when you wrote that? ^^ I like when you're in sensible mode..sexy sexy
    K, I know that people who have strong will tend to be strong people, but there is a fine line between having a strong willpower than to be stubborn-ly fanatic. Therefore, everyone of us needs to innately has strong identity inside. However, it's not necessary for us to be overly pompous our belief out there to gain approval, attention or to force people to do our way based on selfish reason.
    When that happen usually conflict arised from a mere slap on the face to gruesome killing, when you think again, what for?

    Some people need to have more "assertive" overestimation of self like those in political field. Think of me as a democratic candidate but hmm...my view is 70% okay with republican and also I praise alot my opponent's policy in yada2..then I WONT be a strong contender, if Im like that

    However, this thread is about not too becoming overly fanatic with your idea. It's not only harmful to others but it also could blind yourself and make your life difficult.

    as for what mikey said, i agree with him a whole lot. you have so many so called "confident" people that feel the need to diss or put down other people in order to feel good about themselves. what point are they trying to prove by doing that? it's one thing to criticize someone to prove a point but it's one thing to take a swipe at them like you're belittling them or talking shit. to them, there's no such thing as simply coexisting with other folks where they can let them do whatever they do in peace.
    Mikey's words actually a double edged swords-criticism. What he described was exactly a type of people I against for..
    (maybe he ought to be in my side ) but since Im not too full of myself ^^, then my introspection side warned me: "Hey, it could be me he talking about!" -because I put these people in bad light while I try to show people "the right way"
    So here's we have mini-case of French revolution...when Robespierre; a politician rebel who against Louis XIV? (monarchy) actually died in guillotine because people thought he wanted to replace the King, talk about irony.
    Sometimes I think ..when you have opinion and you act through it..,there must be an opposition, no matter what.
    There is no loud/whisper preaching, there's only "preach" and you'll be judged.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ram View Post
    As a belitter of people, I disagree. True that there are people who need to bring others down to make themselves feel better but there are people who bring others down because they just simply do not care and/or do not tolerate stupidity well.
    ^This back to my first reason to not under estimate/under valuing others ..even if they "yes" look stupid/funny/fat or whatever b'cuz you never know what they capable at...
    like sample:

    You might think she's an empty headed bimbo who knows nothing but sucking cock but you could be wrong..
    How if she's actually a good mother? 'knows how to rearing kids while you otherwise, already failed in reproduction organ eversince you accidentally flushed your womb in toilet while ago..
    Btw, hew else mental enough to keep centipedes in vagina xcept Ram?

    hew? I ask

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    Re: Are you easily under estimate everything?

    Cool reasoned thinking is almost totally irrelevant to the responses you will get . I really do try to make sense .

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    Re: Are you easily under estimate everything?

    I do wonder that the opposite is not a more common problem , overestimating , that you will repect and consider carefully statements that are clearly erratic incidental utterances . Think about it for two minutes and that idea will go away .
    Last edited by csb999; December 8th, 2012 at 03:34 AM.

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    Re: Are you easily under estimate everything?

    Quote Originally Posted by joswanprince View Post
    ^This back to my first reason to not under estimate/under valuing others ..even if they "yes" look stupid/funny/fat or whatever b'cuz you never know what they capable at...
    like sample:

    You might think she's an empty headed bimbo who knows nothing but sucking cock but you could be wrong..
    How if she's actually a good mother? 'knows how to rearing kids while you otherwise, already failed in reproduction organ eversince you accidentally flushed your womb in toilet while ago..
    Btw, hew else mental enough to keep centipedes in vagina xcept Ram?

    hew? I ask

    If you know you are smart/mature/whatever, does it matter if the other person knows?

    Who cares what you are capable of? If at that point of time, you are incompetent, then you are incompetent. Honestly, there is nothing to ashamed of not knowing. We all have our weakness and strengths. You are only being underestimated if you let the person underestimate you. It all comes back to you. How do you feel about yourself? Why is it so important for you to let the other person know what you are capable of? Who are you proving your worth to?

    Nobody hears claims they know everything. It is an outrageous claim. Yes, they might think they are smart but that has got to do with how they measure themselves. They can always know more but not everything.

    Don't you think that in your original post you think highly of yourself? Since you are able to show that you are willing to read up on different religious doctrines and respect their points of view, aren't you in way showing that what you think you are doing is right?

    Just a thought.

    I don't know everything. What I know of, I am extremely confident about it. Why am I confident about what I know? I don't know. It's just me. Frankly, there is has to be something you can be proud of. For me, it's my experiences. It shaped me to be a better person. But if I am wrong about my knowledge, cue embarrassment, and the learning cycle spins again. People always think that being humble means you have to be less confident and assured of things you say and believe in. Nope.

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    Re: Are you easily under estimate everything?

    Quote Originally Posted by joswanprince View Post
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    Re: Are you easily under estimate everything?

    ^
    wrong Ram, it's not about me/ my ego..it's about "everybody" as Im just a messenger to my socialism outcry..

    you can judge me whatever as I stated before:

    Sometimes I think ..when you have opinion and you act through it..,there must be an opposition, no matter what.
    There is no loud/whisper preaching, there's only "preach" and you'll be judged.

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    Re: Are you easily under estimate everything?

    Quote Originally Posted by csb999 View Post
    I do wonder that the opposite is not a more common problem , overestimating , that you will repect and consider carefully statements that are clearly erratic incidental utterances . Think about it for two minutes and that idea will go away .
    They need the art of prediction

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    Re: Are you easily under estimate everything?

    K..I think this thread ended in happy ending ..gotta spend my attention somewhere else

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    Re: Are you easily under estimate everything?

    Quote Originally Posted by joswanprince View Post
    ^
    wrong Ram, it's not about me/ my ego..it's about "everybody" as Im just a messenger to my socialism outcry..

    you can judge me whatever as I stated before:
    How can I be wrong because, to quote you "when you have opinion and you act through it..,there must be an opposition, no matter what"?

    I am not judging you.

    Just my two cents.

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    wrong cuz this all not about me..

    your 2 cents help my self-help book-donation

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    Quote Originally Posted by joswanprince View Post
    wrong cuz this all not about me..

    your 2 cents help my self-help book-donation
    The help you need, you need more than my 2 cents. I am glad you are giving reading a try. ;p.

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    Re: Are you easily under estimate everything?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ram View Post
    If you know you are smart/mature/whatever, does it matter if the other person knows?

    Who cares what you are capable of? If at that point of time, you are incompetent, then you are incompetent. Honestly, there is nothing to ashamed of not knowing. We all have our weakness and strengths. You are only being underestimated if you let the person underestimate you. It all comes back to you. How do you feel about yourself? Why is it so important for you to let the other person know what you are capable of? Who are you proving your worth to?

    Nobody hears claims they know everything. It is an outrageous claim. Yes, they might think they are smart but that has got to do with how they measure themselves. They can always know more but not everything.

    Don't you think that in your original post you think highly of yourself? Since you are able to show that you are willing to read up on different religious doctrines and respect their points of view, aren't you in way showing that what you think you are doing is right?

    Just a thought.

    I don't know everything. What I know of, I am extremely confident about it. Why am I confident about what I know? I don't know. It's just me. Frankly, there is has to be something you can be proud of. For me, it's my experiences. It shaped me to be a better person. But if I am wrong about my knowledge, cue embarrassment, and the learning cycle spins again. People always think that being humble means you have to be less confident and assured of things you say and believe in. Nope.
    When I think again..you're being a fool

    with the fool-wisdom

    and Im a justice


    As usual..after I digest your words, then I'll put consideration on your view of self-governed willpower against my view of others /system control-fairness..

    Ram is the fool! That's really kewl..

    Gnight lamb ;-)

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    Re: Are you easily under estimate everything?

    Are you drunk ? I have difficulties in understanding your posts in this thread, though usually you're perfectly clear.

    To answer your question (which I didn't understand) : I know everything and I'm omniscient. Take care.

    PS : only a fool would place a 0 on the Fool card.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oakpope View Post
    PS : only a fool would place a 0 on the Fool card.
    Bollox!

    Depending upon what system one chooses to follow, The Fool can be 0, 22, or 21 ... or even left un-numbered. In truth, it can be any number (or not) that you prefer as long as you thoroughly understand the reasoning behind the assignments. As far as Waite's GD-derived system is concerned The Fool as 0 makes perfect sense.

    PS. Many would say that where esoteric matters are concerned labelling another person 'a fool' only emphasizes one's own foolisness and lack of understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ram View Post
    As a belitter of people, I disagree. True that there are people who need to bring others down to make themselves feel better but there are people who bring others down because they just simply do not care and/or do not tolerate stupidity well.
    This.

    I can put up with anything but willful stupidity.

    I start with the assumption that everyone and every idea is of equal ability and worth.

    And then let the meter run backwards from there.

    Once I have researched and studied any idea, then it either becomes or doesn't become something I believe in. If I think it is worth defending, then I will defend. And I will be open to others changing my mind by providing proof.

    And by the way...that doesn't include someone going to any variation or translation of the King James version of the English Bible to prove anything by citing scripture.

    Other people's research has to be pretty deep and broad in order for me to take it seriously.

    A lot of other people are the same. We like to see those who argue an idea of religion or philosophy have an understanding of the roots of the concept originating in the paleolithic era. Or those who argue science have a grasp of the entirety of their subject.

    Arguing with people who are too lazy to do the real work to learn about everything is a waste of time unless you are mentoring them.

    I would say though, that certainty belongs to youth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoodedRat View Post
    Bollox!

    Depending upon what system one chooses to follow, The Fool can be 0, 22, or 21 ... or even left un-numbered. In truth, it can be any number (or not) that you prefer as long as you thoroughly understand the reasoning behind the assignments. As far as Waite's GD-derived system is concerned The Fool as 0 makes perfect sense.

    PS. Many would say that where esoteric matters are concerned labelling another person 'a fool' only emphasizes one's own foolisness and lack of understanding.
    The Fool must not be numbered. It's the ultimate card for transformation, journey into the unknown. To give it a number is to attach a cord to his ankle, foolishness !
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    Quote Originally Posted by oakpope View Post
    The Fool must not be numbered.
    Says who? All symbol systems are relative and personal. You sound like a 'believer'.

    Meanwhile .. back on topic...

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    You know I'm joking right ?
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    Re: Are you easily under estimate everything?

    Quote Originally Posted by oakpope View Post
    Are you drunk ? I have difficulties in understanding your posts in this thread, though usually you're perfectly clear.
    No, I was too sleepy too complex subject for a mere human?
    Anyway, I d care if you need an interpreter 4 ma words ^^

    To answer your question (which I didn't understand) : I know everything and I'm omniscient. Take care.
    No, you're just being an a-hole, bye too

    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    This.

    I can put up with anything but willful stupidity.

    I start with the assumption that everyone and every idea is of equal ability and worth.

    And then let the meter run backwards from there.
    Like the fall of communism...

    Once I have researched and studied any idea, then it either becomes or doesn't become something I believe in. If I think it is worth defending, then I will defend. And I will be open to others changing my mind by providing proof.

    And by the way...that doesn't include someone going to any variation or translation of the King James version of the English Bible to prove anything by citing scripture.

    Other people's research has to be pretty deep and broad in order for me to take it seriously.

    A lot of other people are the same. We like to see those who argue an idea of religion or philosophy have an understanding of the roots of the concept originating in the paleolithic era. Or those who argue science have a grasp of the entirety of their subject.

    Arguing with people who are too lazy to do the real work to learn about everything is a waste of time unless you are mentoring them.

    I would say though, that certainty belongs to youth.
    Look at this card:

    It's Ace of Hearts..it's only has one value in it. In some of game-card, the ace value is very low/not worthy but in other type of games the Aces are ahead of Kings..

    Do you prefer the 10th, Jacks, Queens and Kings 'experts' but not the Aces?
    The Aces, twos and threes are novices/beginners..but who beats who when the game changing? We never know..^^


    Religion is one point I want to address..
    too many cocky arrogant people here think they're better/ dont need guidance..they're with zero spiritualism.
    Right Ram-- my loophole was when I accused some guys here to be Mr. know it all ^^
    but they (cocky people) actually what I refer too..

    Like I said: It's ok to have strong identity but nevertheless in considerable amount. Overestimation of self could lead into destruction, peps
    There is a fine line between healthy-assertive than to become a domineering bully. There is a fine line between self-confident than world domination..there is a fine line of everything ^^

    Now my persona changed to hmm..Hierophant!

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    Well I think you have to get over yourself and thinking that you have a greater spirituality and therefore moral ascendancy than those who are aetheists. In the same way that aetheists need to get over the notion that they are somehow just more evolved and superior.

    It is a draw.

    It is the way you live that matters. Not the God you believe in or the religion you 'belong' to.

    ....and I can state that quite definitely.

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    Now my persona changed to hmm..Hierophant!
    Trust me honey ... you are no Hierophant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    Well I think you have to get over yourself and thinking that you have a greater spirituality and therefore moral ascendancy than those who are aetheists. In the same way that aetheists need to get over the notion that they are somehow just more evolved and superior.

    It is a draw.

    It is the way you live that matters. Not the God you believe in or the religion you 'belong' to.

    ....and I can state that quite definitely.
    it's funny how some atheists look down on theists for basically being intolerant of other people's beliefs and theists basically having holy wars and etc BUT yet they turn around doing the same exact thing. tolerance goes a long way. people need to learn how to coexists with each other EVEN if they don't like each other. at some point, someone has to be the bigger person and walk away. the world would be a better place if folks learned how to talk it out instead of being ready to fight. unfortunately, fighting before reasoning things out is the norm. if you simply back down from something, folks see you as a pushover and a coward even if you're being the bigger person. sometimes, folks keep on pushing and you pretty much know that you can shit on them from a level that would ruin them but you try to walk away anyway, letting them fight the air.
    one thing about the closet/you don't have to hurry/it will be bad tomorrow/so brother, don't you worry

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    I try to neither over- nor underestimate myself. I merely try my best.

    As far as talking about myself, I'm far more likely to undercut my achievements than overstate them. Ideally, I don't talk about them at all. Another clue for you, johann.

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    Joswanprince, our work is done.
    Inspired - but too tired.

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    I are not, wait what am the question?
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    Re: Are you easily under estimate everything?

    Quote Originally Posted by HoodedRat View Post
    Trust me honey ... you are no Hierophant.
    But can I has the shoes?


    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    Well I think you have to get over yourself and thinking that you have a greater spirituality and therefore moral ascendancy than those who are aetheists. In the same way that aetheists need to get over the notion that they are somehow just more evolved and superior.

    It is a draw.

    It is the way you live that matters. Not the God you believe in or the religion you 'belong' to.

    ....and I can state that quite definitely.
    Xcuse me that I hv to fill the unpopular role as a mommy who says "DONT" too much..and of course peeps dont like it how I sound
    but momma rarely is a selfish human being, she just yapping because she concerns..
    I look at boy-Giancarlo and those in CE&P with frown, afraid if those boys hit a plank and fail miserably.

    And to have "DON'T" mentality is one of my conservative nature I can't help. Sorry if I can't satisfy your statical data of "concrete" knowledge, but something I confident for..is my intuition/my sensing. I confident with my right brain, idk why
    I don't see in detail, I see in big picture.

    to say that am I spiritually superb? Of course nah..maybe Im fooling myself
    but idk, I hv an urge to tell everybody that it's "dangerous" to have empty spiritualism.

    Quote Originally Posted by mikey3000 View Post
    Joswanprince, our work is done.
    yesh.. but let me dissect my opponent~ Ram, since he threw me gold in this thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by joswanprince View Post
    But can I has the shoes?




    Xcuse me that I hv to fill the unpopular role as a mommy who says "DONT" too much..and of course peeps dont like it how I sound
    but momma rarely is a selfish human being, she just yapping because she concerns..
    I look at boy-Giancarlo and those in CE&P with frown, afraid if those boys hit a plank and fail miserably.

    And to have "DON'T" mentality is one of my conservative nature I can't help. Sorry if I can't satisfy your statical data of "concrete" knowledge, but something I confident for..is my intuition/my sensing. I confident with my right brain, idk why
    I don't see in detail, I see in big picture.

    to say that am I spiritually superb? Of course nah..maybe Im fooling myself
    but idk, I hv an urge to tell everybody that it's "dangerous" to have empty spiritualism.



    yesh.. but let me dissect my opponent~ Ram, since he threw me gold in this thread
    pfffft.

    Get over it honey.

    You are not our mommy.

    We don't need your concern for our spiritual well being. People can be 'spiritual' in many different ways, including not having faith in any cultural construct of Gods.

    Just relax and make sure that your own house is in order. Giani and the rest of the boys in CE&P can do just fine without anyone yapping at them about the joys of being on a higher existential plane than they are because your sunday school lessons told you this.

    Just lead by example instead of barking.

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    Ram post #23..rejuvenated my view over "self-reliance" and possibility of how inner self could transform us. It's something I forget to do since Im heavily focusing my life to learn "the world" system, how is work? Law and order,etc.
    Sometimes when you heavily leaning over something in future...you forget some basic elements from the past.

    I won't stated if my condition is "pressed" like ram subtlety described, since he loves to come to every thread with a loop hole making fun of the OP. Well I dont have to explain my actual social treatment like an ego biten by mosquito

    But here's another thing
    I want to share that .."I expect people treat me just the way I treat them"- well the problem that Im a complicated human being with intricate interaction while NOT everyone understand behavior I imply/ fit to my standard.

    I rarely complain people but actually people PISSED me a-hell lot, they...messing my surrounding, zone, harmony..whatever!
    TOO PISSED until I lost words. It's always THEY breaking my boundaries because they cant read the clues..no wonder I become an anti social.

    "You are only being underestimated if you let the person underestimate you."

    Ram words remind me that the cycle MUST end! I must be assertive and bold giving boundary to people around me to not messing with my territorial. If I love calm, beauty and peaceful surrounding, then fight to death to earn that, kill my roommates

    It's not being an asshat/egocentric/ douche or anything...but a healthy dose of self-assertive.
    Please DONT mess my bathroom counterrrrssss!!!!

    * but Ram self-govern system is only work for self/ego/individual whoever needs boost.., that system can't govern a country. To govern a nation, we need check and balance system like I presented
    Otherwise you'll get a president who easily push "war" button- and that's not include cue-embarrassment music


    just my concern though

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    Quote Originally Posted by joswanprince View Post
    Ram post #23..rejuvenated my view over "self-reliance" and possibility of how inner self could transform us. It's something I forget to do since Im heavily focusing my life to learn "the world" system, how is work? Law and order,etc.
    Sometimes when you heavily leaning over something in future...you forget some basic elements from the past.

    I won't stated if my condition is "pressed" like ram subtlety described, since he loves to come to every thread with a loop hole making fun of the OP. Well I dont have to explain my actual social treatment like an ego biten by mosquito

    But here's another thing
    I want to share that .."I expect people treat me just the way I treat them"- well the problem that Im a complicated human being with intricate interaction while NOT everyone understand behavior I imply/ fit to my standard.

    I rarely complain people but actually people PISSED me a-hell lot, they...messing my surrounding, zone, harmony..whatever!
    TOO PISSED until I lost words. It's always THEY breaking my boundaries because they cant read the clues..no wonder I become an anti social.

    "You are only being underestimated if you let the person underestimate you."

    Ram words remind me that the cycle MUST end! I must be assertive and bold giving boundary to people around me to not messing with my territorial. If I love calm, beauty and peaceful surrounding, then fight to death to earn that, kill my roommates

    It's not being an asshat/egocentric/ douche or anything...but a healthy dose of self-assertive.
    Please DONT mess my bathroom counterrrrssss!!!!

    * but Ram self-govern system is only work for self/ego/individual whoever needs boost.., that system can't govern a country. To govern a nation, we need check and balance system like I presented
    Otherwise you'll get a president who easily push "war" button- and that's not include cue-embarrassment music


    just my concern though
    Ok. I almost get the feeling like you are having some kind of existential crisis here.

    First breathe.

    In the first instance, get over the idea that somehow you are more intricate or complicated than everyone else. Perhaps it is just that you have fallen in love with the idea that you somehow are, because it excuses a lot of behaviour or interactions that you have with others.

    You are not some space alien sent to the planet to set aside your extra special intuitive and sensory powers by having to focus on learning the dreary rules of how the world works. You have some special talents that some others don't have and we all appreciate those, but they don't buy you a pass anywhere. Basically you are just another young person coming to terms with a big wide world that you don't understand but think that you might have all the answers for everyone else.

    Room mates always have boundary issues. I used to get hassled by my roomies all the time for the things they didn't like that I did and I let them know what bothered me...by talking it out calmly and rationally.

    The calm and peaceful environment you say you need to live in harmony begins with your inner self. If messiness really gets to you to the point where it triggers rage, then maybe it is time to see if that isn't just how you are dealing with some other internal conflict.

    And as for all of us reading your clues. including your roomies.....give your head a shake. Just say what you mean, mean what you say and tell your partners in housing know what your needs and boundaries are. And then respect that you don't get to write all the rules either for everyone else.

    Otherwise you become the one who might just 'push the button'.

    Another suggestion for you. This forum is an excellent chance for you to practice your written communication skills. you should try to use the time you are composing a thread or response on here to challenge and improve your ability to write simply and clearly so that everyone can better understand the point you are trying to make.
    Last edited by rareboy; December 8th, 2012 at 03:49 PM.

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    ^

    hun..you insisting that Im still a kind of teenager who is self-centered 'thinking that Im special or Im a center of the world...
    Well, actually..that kind of thinking already dead ever since I realize that Im able to die like everybody else..
    teens never think they could die, or they? They less thinking about that..cue: "The Developing Person Through Life Span; Berger"
    How to say that Im a complex human being without sounding like I try to be unique?

    'naw mean?

    Although you're basically in the same age of my dad and my asian heritage, without further ado will automatically respect your opinion of things. --without I forcing myself, it's custom. So, dont you worry about Im preaching my ass 'till dry to guys around here..
    all my words are concern, even "the justice" could be silly..have you encounter off-putting justice?^^



    Another suggestion for you. This forum is an excellent chance for you to practice your written communication skills. you should try to use the time you are composing a thread or response on here to challenge and improve your ability to write simply and clearly so that everyone can better understand the point you are trying to make.
    Im hopeless...

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