hope you guys are ready.
hope you guys are ready.
one thing about the closet/you don't have to hurry/it will be bad tomorrow/so brother, don't you worry
wen any land planet awsum apes a eons no how do obvious with out play Law game
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When we get gay marriage, we'll also get gay divorce and gay adultery. Just saying.
it a no concern ta ( world ova classfied - of so call civilations awsums ) backlash or not ta anythang of a now or past wot a still a now - wot it mean? civlization o ans - nosay as usual -
now is 10000 million >people< word people< a recent upgrade if ya get it
it demo everyday ans big way start a 21st century - century wot folk call 100 years wot like spit ta winds a time
maybe say too much AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARH
supreme court decisions < so funny dat
da ya nose a cuase ya nose _ folk spend all life make carrer a useless twat ans win title fa it > haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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It has just ocurred to me how drastically conservative gay marriage is .
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the idea of marriage in general is conservative.
it folk wanna stuck each othda up it a long term 5mins or end a world in 2quillion - few years
marriage aint not wot da play about anywaay but marray in da play
no think cultures disscova human gene yet ha harrrrrrrrrrrr
anyway sure sum folk make a da money etc out da results as useualls
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* ya gonna eat dat? *
nah you cans eat it
* aawwwwwwwwwww kissy kissy *
yuck - can ma foot back?
* ooh *
but no wanna cause world civlis strains wot do now? get real job? first time eva! haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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wot wear this?
# neva catch on #
ya no see future do ya
# ooh noooooooooooooooooo #
# was thinkin #
dat bad is dat here ice bucket
# awwwwwwwwww #
* where ya wanna ya bits? *
dunno yet where is me?
# ooh ya is here #
good ans where a goin?
@ is a here @
* coor da rich life so sumthang *
$ dat ya kids $
! ya did ask fa da gene speicals wit everythang !
aanyway this a no about da important matta of world chess fa golfin cheese
is vote now ans blow a ballon
happy porn day
Won't happen. Scalia Roberts, Kennedy, Thomas, and Alito that's all you need to strike it down. They might let states decide but I'm sure it won't become federal law.
I'm not. I'm actually surprised they took the cases. They have been dodging the issue for 2 decades. Just 9 years ago they struck down Texas anti sodomy law. Gays are not considered a suspect class or even intermediate suspect class. The court just rules on a rational basis. Also you have to look at congress. Even if they say gay marriage is constitutional congress can still pass legislation to block marriage. As a matter a fact the Defense of Marriage Act was signed in response to Hawaii and other states recognizing gay marriage.
The law wouldn't be useless if it's in the Constitution. The court is bound by the Constitution. I don't think congress will do it because it's too divided anyway.
however, i'm willing to bet that lawrence v. texas is going to pave the way for the supreme court to strike down doma with the whole equal protection issue. i made a bet with razoredge and jockboy that the supreme court was going to strike down doma in 2013. i'm confident in saying that the court WILL do it. either the court is going to do it or obama is going to do it. either way, it's going to happen.
Everyone wants to be heard. No one wants to listen.
I support gay marriage in the interest of equality and it is a major issue for me BUT as an individual I have no desire to embrace such an oppressive institution.
Not a countdown at all. The Justices indicated both cases should be argued on standing. The first one on Prop 8 because the state installed the law but a group other than the state appealed the courts when they struck down the law based on the constitution.
The second because the DOMA law is a federal law and the federal government isn't fighting it ... Obama told the justice department who represents the Federal government not to defend it so Republicans hired lawyers to defend the law.....
The court will likely decide neither party had standing to appeal and therefore the lower court ruling stands... so in other words DOMA will be struck down in District 2 and Gay marriage will resume in California but no other net national effect.
but Lawerence v Texas was a privacy issue about sex. The liberal judges Stevens, Souter, and Oconner who were a part of the Lawerence majority are gone they were replaced by Kagan, Sotomayor, and Alito(who is conservative). Alito,Scalia, thomas, and Roberts are for sure against it. Kennedy is the swig vote. The court is not going to argue the merits of the case. They won't address the equality of gay of marriage. They will determine if the case has standing and if it doesn't then that's end of the argument.
kool planet appoint a actual humans < plenty is
no just papa wot a same script ons ums wot fill job orders - salutes
* was doin ma job *
coor ans ya enjoys it so well
anyway while a awsum lands still figa wot a equal ans people - world A public anytime can do it self
fairys blow ballons fa good luck
_ world leadurs may now sit _
mature ? only 21 st century
Marriage . I think you could argue that really any financial-legal relationship between people is in the process of vanishing legally and culturally in the West : marriage is becoming unfashionable . Historically perhaps 1950s we dropped financial responsibility to our parents . Recently ( you will have observed this if you're old enough ) we have basically dropped the idea that a spouse has a financial obligation to support the other , alimony ( I would say this is a manifestation of the equality of women , that historically a woman's wealth or class was first that of her father then dependent on her husband ) . Remaining would be only child-support ( which is in my experience erratic in its application ) and inheritance to children .
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Doubt any of us will live long enough as long as the U.S. has Jesus up there ass. This American now is also British as soon as we got here we got our civil partnership. Marriage will be in Two years.
And one major difference here we have all the perks that a het married couple has including the Tax Breaks and British SSi If one dies the other gets it not in the states
D...UMP has one hand in Putin's pants, and he wants his other hand on the nuclear button. USA, please don't commit suicide.
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P. J. O'Rourke (Republican humorist, paraphrased): Clinton will be a disaster, but within normal parameters. Donald Trump will be a disaster in ways that no one could possibly imagine.
We actually did have and hold each other until death, in sickness and in health, and we loved and cherished each other. It would have been nice to have been able to legalize it but we became domestic partners when Ca. started registration in the state. Our family and friends treated us as a married couple and that is all that mattered to us.
If someone is capable of loving another and having a long term relationship, it's going to happen whether they can get married or not.
I LOVE not being married because I know when I go home...or when he comes home...which is everyday for the last 26 1/2 years...it is ONLY because we both WANT to. I find that infinitely more rewarding than doing it because we have entered into an institution which is designed by religious heterosexuals.
Traditional marriage vows...BARF. I want honesty and respect and I give that in return. Everything else is negotiable. I definitely do not expect anyone to obey me and if they cherish me that is something that should come naturally...not something you promise and force.
The 'til end of time stuff...sorry...most people wear masks and it can take years for you to see what is behind them. Promising eternity to a relative stranger is a bad idea...especially when you make it legal.
I have a problem with other people defining anything for me and people and society in general love to define marriage for everyone else when they should mind their own business...and I have a bigger problem with anyone not being treated equally under the law which is why I 100% support gay marriage...doesn't mean I would ever get married.
great dat nice
but it no about marrigae
fins next bit
if ( gay a no idea wot it all about 400million population woteva of a usa )
repeat woteva sellin da gay lords a usa betta get nose in it
fa internet 2 it obvious
My Political Science professor was talking about this in class the other day. Evidently this is a "All or Nothing" case. If they vote to not legalize gay-marriage it will over turn all states that HAVE ALREADY legalized gay-marriage. So this is essentially and issue of state governments of states where gay marriage is not legal not wanting to recognize the marriages of people from pro-gay marriage states. This is going to be interesting and a very publicized ruling either way. I hope they do the right thing.
"Its better to burn out than fade away"
^ We have the same argument happening here. And the argument is not going well. It's alienating millions of people who regard their marriage vows as a sacred and legal oath. And the current national prime minister has vowed to not allow a change of laws.
And there's also a noticeable demarcation between the over-30 gays who know how to organise their own lives and the under-20s who are campaigning for it for lack of a better things to campaign for. They see marriage as a theoretical Disney type institution which may or not affect their lives.
And in regards to post #47.
All those situations can be handled. Legalised gay marriage will be a boon for lawyers to write all those gay pre-nups and gay back-out clauses
"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."
Federal Government > State Government.
"Its better to burn out than fade away"
There is absolutely no defensible reason that universal civil/human/equal rights should vary from state to state or even not exist in some states. What happens if your spouse is seriously injured during travel through a state that doesn't recognize gay marriage or gay spouses and you can't get into the hospital room?
By the way Pat-- separate is not equal. The U.S. already tried that. Having to carry around a portfolio of contracts and affadavits to get the same access and rights a heterosexual married couple would get automatically without question is not equality.
For any man to argue that having equal rights under the law for an equally life long relationship is ignorant and brainwashed at best.
The most incredible thing I heard the local extremely conservative talk show saying two nights ago was her question to the conservative listener base... " She wanted to know from callers in conventional marriages how a gay couple being married affects them in any way whatsoever."
Then all of these racist halfwits who normally call and say the most obscene bullshit about Obama and blacks and gays ... and well you get the idea.... they called and not a single one of them could find a reason why and then they started asking why the fuck was it governments responsibility to differentiate between couple.
I was pleased and amazed. the conversation has finally started to become what it should have been all along. Govt get out of my life and treat us all equally.
The congress here voted recently to remove the word lunatic from federal laws. I think they should vote to remove marriage as a word and replace it with union. then define Unions as two adult human beings... finally leave marriage to church where it belongs... if a church wishes to recognize loving same sex couple and couple want that recognition then so be it.
Hell I would go so far as to say two people who never plan to be married but are dearest friends for life could then take advantage of the civil partnership for associated benefits.
However any gay man who is brainwashed into thinking it is a lazy group of youngsters or that marriage is somehow a bad thing is simply deluded and should probably seek some sort of help.
The DOI said all Men are created equal.
But somehow every state politician, every local politician and all those federal politicians seem to think they have an unalienable Right to be superior and tell others how to live their lives.