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    Well guys, it's almost time to bow down before our robot overlords

    http://www.gizmag.com/brain-computer-simulation/25349/

    This is simply fascinating. While it's not an actual artificial intelligence, it's a massive step forward in that field.

    What would you do with your robot assistant?

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    Re: Well guys, it's almost time to bow down before our robot overlords

    Put him in charge and ask him what he wanted ME to do.

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    Re: Well guys, it's almost time to bow down before our robot overlords

    He shall do all my paperwork, and chores...
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    Re: Well guys, it's almost time to bow down before our robot overlords

    Like many things in the beginning, it's too primitive to be of much use now. It needs to be further developed and refined before it'll become a true asset.

    Although, I'll admit I'm jealous that its handwriting is better than mine


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    Re: Well guys, it's almost time to bow down before our robot overlords

    at the doubling rate for technology...
    we'll be uplifting silicon life in no time

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    Re: Well guys, it's almost time to bow down before our robot overlords

    I grew up in the eighties...



    "...but best of all they'll liberate us from mundane and time-consuming household chores."

    Mind if I don't hold my breath?

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    Re: Well guys, it's almost time to bow down before our robot overlords

    Quote Originally Posted by AshyPhoenix View Post

    What would you do with your robot assistant?
    Can I sleep with him?

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    Re: Well guys, it's almost time to bow down before our robot overlords

    This has to converge with two other things to give us something truly powerful: expert systems, and learning systems. Once it can learn on its own, file that and build up its own knowledge, then this ability will be far more valuable.

    We have primitive versions of that now, for example robot vacuum cleaners that decide when the floor needs cleaned, and robot lawn mowers that not only determine when the grass needs mowed but reports on conditions such as weeds appearing, poor soil nutrients, and moisture content -- in fact at least one of the newer robot mowers can be linked to a built-in lawn watering system, and that watering system can have canisters with various lawn chemicals such as nitrogen, iron, etc. for fertilizing, moss control, etc. When the mower decides the lawn is too dry, it cues the sprinkling system, and if it has decided that one or more of the chemicals is needed, those get fed into the water line. According to engineering/tech news, future models will hold weed killer so they can spray as they mow, right on the weed as needed.

    And however impressive that is, it's still primitive, because the mower is just following built-in parameters. But combine that with a learning system and the mower can expand on its base -- for example, learning that a shoe in the yard is to be gently pushed out of the way while a pile of dog poop should be avoided and the human of the house alerted. Throw the neural system in the article on top, and we'd have a robot that starts as a lawn mower and grows to be a grounds-keeper.

    Once they get better developed, what I want is a driver. If I can get the RV I dream of and roam the country, I'd be able to spend travel time watching the scenery and/or writing, or catching naps so I'll be ready for the next hike.

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    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Re: Well guys, it's almost time to bow down before our robot overlords

    I hope it knows Asimov's three laws!

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    Re: Well guys, it's almost time to bow down before our robot overlords

    Quote Originally Posted by goldenmoth View Post
    I hope it knows Asimov's three laws!
    It's interesting that I've seen discussions between AI geniuses discussing how we may need those laws, but have never heard one word about how to build them into real robots. If you consider the level of judgment they require, I'd expect some in-depth attempts at addressing that issue.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Re: Well guys, it's almost time to bow down before our robot overlords

    I'd program him to dispense gumballs. If he is truly intelligent, he should have to go through a menial labor stage like so many of the rest of us have, to be more tempered.
    Last edited by Hard-up1; December 8th, 2012 at 02:26 AM.

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    Re: Well guys, it's almost time to bow down before our robot overlords

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    It's interesting that I've seen discussions between AI geniuses discussing how we may need those laws, but have never heard one word about how to build them into real robots. If you consider the level of judgment they require, I'd expect some in-depth attempts at addressing that issue.
    not to mention how the robots might just plain misinterpret the three laws and just kill everyone.
    then theres also the question of well even if you manage to program the three laws in...can't some asshole just program it out?

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    Re: Well guys, it's almost time to bow down before our robot overlords

    Not if you build the entire positronic brain around it. Plus robots don't misinterpret laws or directly disobey them. They can't. It's their programming. A computer can't decide to open Excel just because you click on Word and it prefers Excel. The three laws are sound with the occasional, rectifiable bug.

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    Re: Well guys, it's almost time to bow down before our robot overlords

    Quote Originally Posted by penayforay View Post
    not to mention how the robots might just plain misinterpret the three laws and just kill everyone.
    then theres also the question of well even if you manage to program the three laws in...can't some asshole just program it out?
    It would be in the hardware, wired in rather than programmed. No matter what software games you played, there wouldn't be a way around it.

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    Re: Well guys, it's almost time to bow down before our robot overlords

    Quote Originally Posted by goldenmoth View Post
    Not if you build the entire positronic brain around it.
    Positronic brain ey? The gamma radiation alone would probably annihilate humanity...

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    Re: Well guys, it's almost time to bow down before our robot overlords

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    It would be in the hardware, wired in rather than programmed. No matter what software games you played, there wouldn't be a way around it.
    Is this set in stone?
    even if were in the hardware, couldn't you replace the hardware?

    Quote Originally Posted by goldenmoth View Post
    Not if you build the entire positronic brain around it. Plus robots don't misinterpret laws or directly disobey them. They can't. It's their programming. A computer can't decide to open Excel just because you click on Word and it prefers Excel. The three laws are sound with the occasional, rectifiable bug.
    I think the three laws are kind of open to interpretation. What constitutes harm to a human?
    As opposed to opening word/excel which I dont think is open to interpretation at all?

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    Re: Well guys, it's almost time to bow down before our robot overlords

    Quote Originally Posted by penayforay View Post
    Is this set in stone?
    even if were in the hardware, couldn't you replace the hardware?
    You mean the entire brain?

    Quote Originally Posted by penayforay View Post
    I think the three laws are kind of open to interpretation. What constitutes harm to a human?
    As opposed to opening word/excel which I dont think is open to interpretation at all?
    There are two entire collections of short stories, and several novels, dedicated to exploring this. Of course they're also very good stories.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

    *the number is now forty

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    Re: Well guys, it's almost time to bow down before our robot overlords

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulindahr View Post
    You mean the entire brain?
    I mean...why not?

    There are two entire collections of short stories, and several novels, dedicated to exploring this. Of course they're also very good stories
    I think Asimov had one story named "Sally" where you see the first one being broken. Only they have cars with brains killing someone I believe.
    I feel like the three laws would tell the robot how it SHOULD function. but what if it were to malfunction?

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    Re: Well guys, it's almost time to bow down before our robot overlords

    Quote Originally Posted by penayforay View Post
    I mean...why not?
    Probably because it would be cheaper to just build your own robot.

    Quote Originally Posted by penayforay View Post
    I feel like the three laws would tell the robot how it SHOULD function. but what if it were to malfunction?
    Asimov handled that one too: build the Three Laws in in such a way that for them to fail, the brain would become useless anyway.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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