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    Re: Gay Republican elected lawmaker from Pennsylvania comes out

    Quote Originally Posted by archive View Post
    I think you missed the part where he ran unopposed.....for another term...
    Oops -- my bad.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

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    Re: Gay Republican elected lawmaker from Pennsylvania comes out

    Quote Originally Posted by JayQueer View Post
    Okay, from your argument (and Rolyo's), you believe that gay men who are promiscuous are being healthy, and that gay men who are in monogamous relationships are "suppressing their innate sexuality" and "living lives of deprivation."

    It logically follows then, you (and Rolyo) DO NOT support marriage equality for gay men. The purpose of a marriage is to unite two adults who wish to share their love and commitment (and that includes sex) together by making their union a covenant or agreement between the two parties.

    If a gay man is busy hooking up with different men every night, there is no point to being tied to down to just one man. Why be married when it is only living a "life of deprivation" and being "self-hating" when one could just have sex with as many men as possible?? Why would you want the government to legalize gay marriage when it is so harmful to gay men??

    So once again, all of you who believe that "gay men who are promiscuous are rightfully expressing their healthy sexuality" MUST also be opposed to marriage equality for gay men. If not, you are a hypocrite.
    The problem here is that you don't understand liberty -- that's the only reason you can't see the point here.

    That you don't understand liberty is shown especially by the fact that you have this urge to define marriage not just for yourself, but for everyone else. That rests on an attitude that you own other people and so can tell them what to do. That's not surprising, of course; much of the Republican party 'philosophy' rests on the proposition that some people can own others.

    It's also that urge that makes you confused about what people have actually said: your anti-liberty view of other people twists things so it's doubtful you even are capable of seeing what others have actually said; those things have to be filtered through a lens where it's okay to exercise ownership over others, so you fail to see where people are arguing for liberty.

    Gay men who are promiscuous are rightfully expressing their healthy sexuality -- just as are gay men who are living exclusively monogamously.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

    *the number is now forty

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    Re: Gay Republican elected lawmaker from Pennsylvania comes out

    Even if the GOP completely reformed its stance on gay people it would still have absolutely dismal backwards attitudes as a party about women, blacks, hispanics, minorities in general, and people of non-faith or people of faith-other-than-Christianity. I would lose respect for anyone who was against the GOP on its gay stance but merrily switched if they became a gay-tolerant party, big time.

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    Re: Gay Republican elected lawmaker from Pennsylvania comes out

    The most telling thing to me was that he immediately leapt from abstinence to the "alternative" of a promiscuous, STD-laden gay lifestyle.

    Sounded really, really brainwashed to me to see only those two options.

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    Re: Gay Republican elected lawmaker from Pennsylvania comes out

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    Even if the GOP completely reformed its stance on gay people it would still have absolutely dismal backwards attitudes as a party about women, blacks, hispanics, minorities in general, and people of non-faith or people of faith-other-than-Christianity. I would lose respect for anyone who was against the GOP on its gay stance but merrily switched if they became a gay-tolerant party, big time.
    ADDING to your post (and really I'm not done, I could add more):

    They would still "LOVE THE FETUS, HATE THE CHILD." To hell with ANY kind of support programs for children, such as Head Start, family help with food stamps, subsidized school lunches, etc. In fact, SCREW public schooling...and if the parents can't afford to send the child to a private school (with vouchers not giving the parents enough help to afford it anyway), let the damned child ROT being taught by a drug-addicted gambling single parent who is trying to work three minimum-wage part time jobs with no health care.

    Of course, if all the poor, the handicapped, the mentally incompetent, etc. just went off into their corners AND DIED from exposure or starvation or diarrhea, that's all fine...the Republicans would have fewer Democratic "useless eaters" to worry about.

    The Republican Party is dead to me.
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