Not do something active to end (burning a church is a pretty active thing ) but ignore it until it goes away . Not being anti-religious but areligious .
In Gary Numan's autobiography, he says "I'd rather believe in hobbits and elves than Jesus." I quite like that quote. My favorite quote from an atheist ever was "The Bible and Christianity is just all lies and fairy tales. It's not surprising I feel that way, though. I'm a Sagittarius, and we're skeptical by nature."
A lot of gay men have an ax to grind against the status quo, which inherently includes Christianity.
I don't feel compelled to follow suit.
I also don't feel obligated to be anti-atheist, or any other faith. I'm glad I don't have to take on that crusade.
I'm an agnostic atheist.
I couldn't get my mind off you all day.
I put other since I am still evaluating if religion itself has any validity in my life. I have a question about praxis and religion.
I'll play the game, but Buddhism isn't a religion. It's more of a philosophy.
I don't really have a religon but I do follow the Dalai Lama's teaching.
I find his teachings and words of wisdom, philosophy very enlightening.
Last edited by Blueboy82; November 28th, 2012 at 02:32 AM.
To exempt it somehow from the trappings and connotations of the label "religion" is an imbalance in the simple use of language.
For many Christians, the religion has been evolved to become simply a philosophy of attitudes, sans belief in the supernatural, but it yet remains a religion in every sense of the word for hundreds of millions of humans.
That Buddhism may attract large numbers of philosophic adherents does not negate the fact that there are many millions more who visit temples, offer prayers (not just meditations) and acknowledge what anyone would certainly identify as deity or deities.
I worship the devil.
They ARE indeed a charismatic bunch. Very friendly. The kind of people that don't give Evangelicals a bad name. Still doesn't change the fact they think gays need to be 'righted'.
They had visited my family home when i was in my mid-teens, several times encouraging my mother to go to a communal gathering and tea (evening meal for you non-brits). Eventually their persistence paid off and she said ok.
She was however a little uneasy and asked me to go with her. I agreed.
At their commune, which was a rather nice looking house with a huge barn conversion making the dining room, we sat in the lounge with around 20 other people, singing ensued.
The Evangelistic nature of rejoicing was quite frankly disturbing to me.
Me and my mum were hardly singing from the hymn sheets we were given, we had them obscuring our mouths for the most part.
I tell you something tho, when we sat down for the meal afterwards, we had some homemade bread which was exceptionally tasty. They must have made that with the same kind of enthusiasm with which they sung, it was gorgeous.
After that day, they had visited a few more occassions encouraging us to go back, but no we did not. Once was enough. Thankfully my mum is not a devout CofE Christian, so she wasn't gonna be swayed by a more intense version of the faith.
I am a Christian.
Athiest here, and I think all religion is bullshit.
I got banned from another forum for refusing to stop bashing religion, catholic priests, child abusers etc
I'm glad to see that sort of fascist dictatorship isn't prevalent on here
It's probably best for you to avoid the 'North American Christianity Forum' (aka, Religion, Spirituality & Philosophy).
It's supposed to be a no-flame zone; in other words, Christians can behave like total cunts towards other religions but post anything too critical of US Christianity and watch your posts disappear as if by magic.
I am Roman Catholic, born and raised. I still practice the Catholic faith. I have adjusted/filtered some of its teachings in my mind and conscience to match what I now believe, but still believe and practice it in general.
If you don't want to follow all of it then you might as well just be spiritual and even God-believing without organized religion. If you can't then you must be a part of it because of the culture and social pressure rather than actual faith that the religion is true.
^Another kicking English grammar post
I'm surprised we haven't gotten a single Islam vote yet.
Muslims aren't allowed to be gay
Just like they aren't allowed to eat bacon, drink coffee or fuck outside their marriage
But why do we have 16 Christians then?
I want those big Arab cocks!
Too bad I'm not a virgin.
been an atheist for 10 years now and never turning back. i've felt more liberated mentally than all the years i was brainwashed by catholic school and older people that were trying to put me on to their way of thinking. this works for me fine.
one thing i don't get is how come people feel the need to put down other people's beliefs that are different from their own. i used to do that but nowadays, i stopped because it makes no sense.
one thing about the closet/you don't have to hurry/it will be bad tomorrow/so brother, don't you worry
I don't speak against religion because I enjoy putting people down. I do it because I think organized religion is very harmful to man.
In general I'm honest about it when I think something is harmful and should be avoided... I won't make an exception for religion just because it's PC to not speak against them.
Just a thought.
I myself follow my own path too.
I'm not denying people can gain from it mentally...
But at the same time I can't just ignore all the violence and oppression which organized religion has caused.
The more violent the bigger it gets. Christianity and Islam are the biggest ones simply because they are the religions which were with violence forced over many many nations.
Last edited by Laufey; November 28th, 2012 at 01:12 PM.
I've seen studies on religious people on average being less intelligent than nonreligious people.
"Religion is a collection of belief systems, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to spirituality and, sometimes, to moral values. Many religions have narratives, symbols, traditions and sacred histories that are intended to give meaning to life or to explain the origin of life or the Universe. They tend to derive morality, ethics, religious laws or a preferred lifestyle from their ideas about the cosmos and human nature. According to some estimates, there are roughly 4,200 religions in the world."
In that sense, I think we can accept that Buddhism is a religion.
He said on average.I believe in God. Does your statement mean that I am less intelligent than you ?
I'm an Atheist, but I'm open minded when it comes to spirituality. What people choose to believe is their own business and I really don't mind talking about it so long as they don't try to force it on me.
He said on average. That means an average. He's not talking about individuals. The statement was regarding the overall... and was discussing religious people.
Webster definition :
Definition of RELIGION
a : the state of a religious <a nun in her 20th year of religion>
b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness
: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
Examples of RELIGION
There are many religions, such as Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, and Judaism.
dictionnary.com definition :
[ri-lij-uh n] Show IPA
a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
What are you trying to prove? That Buddhism is a religion? Doesn't cut it. Keep posting all the definitions you want.
Here is one for philosophy:
phi·los·o·phy [fi-los-uh-fee] Show IPA
noun, plural phi·los·o·phies.
1. the rational investigation of the truths and principles of being, knowledge, or conduct.
2. any of the three branches, namely natural philosophy, moral philosophy, and metaphysical philosophy, that are accepted as composing this study.
3. a system of philosophical doctrine: the philosophy of Spinoza.
4. the critical study of the basic principles and concepts of a particular branch of knowledge, especially with a view to improving or reconstituting them: the philosophy of science.
5. a system of principles for guidance in practical affairs.
In this sense, Buddhism sounds like it fits this definition more.
What I meant is that he can't just try to argue against religion by saying that religious people are less intelligent on average that non religious one. If the most intelligent man or woman on Earth is a religious one, does it prove anything about religion ? I don't think so.
None. Neither do I believe in Santa Claus, Big Foot, Elves...you get the picture.
Probably my favorite quote on religion: "We must question the story logic of an all knowing, all powerful God who creates faulty humans and then blames them for his own mistakes." - Gene Roddenberry
By the way, we have 9 votes for "other" but no Muslims or Jews??
Does anyone else find this a bit odd?
It's on average. Read the statement again. It's about AVERAGES... the OVERALL. And he can argue that, as will I.What I meant is that he can't just try to argue against religion by saying that religious people are less intelligent on average that non religious one. If the most intelligent man or woman on Earth is a religious one, does it prove anything about religion ? I don't think so.
The word Car means the vehicle that is used to fly. Whatever other definitions you can have are false. Only my definition is the one right, because I say so.
Are we agreeing ?