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    Re: The GOP Faces Years in the Wilderness After 2012 Election Losses

    Quote Originally Posted by MystikWizard View Post
    When it comes to agenda ... what good is a Democratic president in 2016 unless you have both a Democratic Senate AND a Democratic HOUSE to go along with him/her?

    People don't seem to quite get it, even after all this time. The president, in actuality, has very little power unless the stars align in the Legislative Branch. And thanks to the gerrymandering on the part of GOP state Governors in redrawing the districts to a GOP advantage in the House, this has made re-gaining control of it much more difficult for the Dems.

    The Democrats absolutely have to find a way to get out of the tunnel vision of solely focusing on the presidency, and motivating the base to get out and vote in HUGE numbers in the 2014 congressional election to overcome the gerrymandering of the GOP. Otherwise we can keep cheering on the president, but keep wondering why the needle isn't budging.

    Threatening and bullying the GOP doesn't do a damn thing. They need to be removed from office by voting them out. That is the only way for progress to occur.
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    just what we need - an irresponsible party who squandered stimulus funds doing it again x 100

    because they can

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    Re: The GOP Faces Years in the Wilderness After 2012 Election Losses

    Quote Originally Posted by TX-Beau View Post
    The moral majority isn't the block pushing the pubs, the teabaggers are - and their influence doesn't seem to be waning, in fact it looks like they are hell bent on taking the Pubs down with them.

    "Realpolitik," whatever you mean by that is pretty pointless when the people who vote for you ARE the problem.

    There isn't this huge helpless majority of sane "fiscal conservative," republicans who are golly gee just wringing their helpless little hands, the Pub base AGREES with the crazy, or it wouldn't be there in the first place. Pretending otherwise is just foolish.
    You support the point then, the tea party is the fiscal conservative wing of the party, if you say they are main force driving the party then you are saying the social conservatives have fallen from the driving force which is correct. What we really need to happen is the libertarian/small government wings to regain ground to restore balance to the party.
    Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule - and both commonly succeed, and are right. H. L. Mencken US editor (1880 - 1956)

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    Re: The GOP Faces Years in the Wilderness After 2012 Election Losses

    Nope, that is what you are saying I'm saying, I'm not responsible for it.

    If you want to argue with yourself - go right ahead.

    I'm saying it's stupid to assume that there are "wings," of other that outnumber the crazy.
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    Re: The GOP Faces Years in the Wilderness After 2012 Election Losses

    Quote Originally Posted by TX-Beau View Post
    Nope, that is what you are saying I'm saying, I'm not responsible for it.

    If you want to argue with yourself - go right ahead.

    I'm saying it's stupid to assume that there are "wings," of other that outnumber the crazy.
    I would basically say even if they exist in the voting base it effectually doesn't matter that they exist when they vote for the crazy anyway just because it has an R after its name.

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    Re: The GOP Faces Years in the Wilderness After 2012 Election Losses

    This would all cease to be a problem if we'd been smart and switched to a multiparty system.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Re: The GOP Faces Years in the Wilderness After 2012 Election Losses

    Quote Originally Posted by JordanFrank View Post
    If only it were true , but with Fox "News" leading the charge (note: they actually went to court to defend their right to lie , using their Entertainment license for the network as cover) and Americans having a very short memory span these days , their brains will again very soon be filled with faux Obama and Democratic party outrages on a regular basis .
    WOW. It's good to see a Newbie that knows about Fox. Welcome.
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