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    Boehner Wants ‘Obamacare’ in Fiscal Cliff Negotiations

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...-negotiations/

    President Obama’s reelection guaranteed at least one thing for his second term – Obamacare is here here to stay. But that is not going to keep Republicans from trying to chip away at the law. House Speaker John Boehner wrote, in an op-ed, Tuesday that cuts to the president’s landmark legislative achievement should be included in efforts to deal with the looming fiscal cliff.
    Hey Boner.

    Only if you finally agree to raise the fucking taxes on the rich.

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    They don't give up, do they?
    That we are capable only of being what we are, remains our unforgivable sin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    Boehner Wants ‘Obamacare’ in Fiscal Cliff Negotiations

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...-negotiations/



    Hey Boner.

    Only if you finally agree to raise the fucking taxes on the rich.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rolyo85 View Post
    They don't give up, do they?
    why would he give up on something that the majority of americans oppose ?

    figured at least one of you would be up on the deets

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/84054.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    why would he give up on something that the majority of americans oppose ?

    figured at least one of you would be up on the deets

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/84054.html
    BTW way could you start providing an adult to teenager translations dictionary for some of your made up words? I got 'Sitch' to mean situation based on usage although I have never heard any other human being use that term.... but what does 'deets' mean? Based on placement I assume you mean the actual word Details? If so is it really that difficult to type two more letters and make some sort of sense?
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    No they don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    what does 'deets' mean?
    http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/west...es/deetgen.pdf


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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    why would he give up on something that the majority of americans oppose ?

    figured at least one of you would be up on the deets

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/84054.html
    Since when do the majority of Americans oppose it? Republicans love saying that but never provide ANY proof for it.

    And thanks JH for debunking Chance. It's pretty split 50/50. It's funny how Romney said anything... considering he first implemented Obamacare in Massachusetts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    BTW way could you start providing an adult to teenager translations dictionary for some of your made up words? I got 'Sitch' to mean situation based on usage although I have never heard any other human being use that term.... but what does 'deets' mean? Based on placement I assume you mean the actual word Details? If so is it really that difficult to type two more letters and make some sort of sense?
    you need to get around more clearly

    out of your bubble

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    Well of course unless you look at post election polling then all of that support for repeal is horseshit...
    nice try sweets (rhymes with deets)

    read it and weep (almost rhymes with deets)

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...130.html#polls

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    And thanks JH for debunking Chance. It's pretty split 50/50. It's funny how Romney said anything... considering he first implemented Obamacare in Massachusetts.
    Which ironically is a disaster. More and more of my friends in MA are ending up on the state-run health care because the private ones are far too costly.

    I pay $700/month for single and with that kind of cost, that would bankrupt most people easily.

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    ^ that seems expensive

    A vote for Obama doesn't mean a vote for Obamacare

    Boehner probably is just using it as a chip in the game and will give it up for something else

    but it isn't popular with the peeps (almost rhymes with deets) nor small business owners, many of whom are planning to shift full-time employees to part-timers

    not such a grand thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxpowr9 View Post
    Which ironically is a disaster. More and more of my friends in MA are ending up on the state-run health care because the private ones are far too costly.

    I pay $700/month for single and with that kind of cost, that would bankrupt most people easily.
    $700 a month is crazy. Although there's nothing in the bill that says it's going to affordable except the name of the bill.

    More people than ever will be without health insurance and will pay the fine. That makes no sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    why would he give up on something that the majority of americans oppose ?

    figured at least one of you would be up on the deets

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/84054.html
    I notice that writer doesn't understand Obamacare -- the assertion is made that it involves the government taking over health care... which it definitely does not. You really ought to cite articles by people who know what's going on.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by chance1 View Post
    nice try sweets (rhymes with deets)

    read it and weep (almost rhymes with deets)

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...130.html#polls
    Of course you read well and noticed that your quoted reply has a last polled date of four November. Hence the words I originally typed which say POST election. I will assume (perhaps wrongly) that you know when the election occurred. That was the day all the ignorant lies on the right came crashing down around your guys ears.

    Most people do not want Obamacare repealed. If they did they didn't show up at the polls and if they didn't show up at the polls they have chosen not to be of consequence to this nation.

    I will agree that the program needs to be tweaked. It could have been the best program in the world if ignorant backwards ass fucking retard republicans had actually provided constructive input instead of just being the losers that they are.... wait is that partisan.

    Boehner and McConnell know they are caught with their pants down. Obamacare is law and taxes are going up... those two things are facts. The only real question now is HOW. So you have the bitter partisan republican states refusing to set up exchanges. And the bitter losing queens of the party saying huffy and puffy things to their home audience thinking they can get away with it. They wont. .
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    Boehner and McConnell know they are caught with their pants down. Obamacare is law and taxes are going up... those two things are facts. The only real question now is HOW. So you have the bitter partisan republican states refusing to set up exchanges. And the bitter losing queens of the party saying huffy and puffy things to their home audience thinking they can get away with it. They wont.
    Thus the GOP demonstrate the reality of their programs: increased poverty. By rejecting Obamacare, they impose added poverty to their constituents -- and show us all what they really intend.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    On one end sure. But I think their shortsighted view is if they can prove it is difficult and doesn't work then they can claim to be right. No matter that Americans don't have healthcare... that isn't the important part. Them being right and having a talking point is the only valid issue for republicans.

    I am still a bit in shock that an entire party in our country has decided to defeat the party in power they must do nothing for anyone in America. And now they are starting their war drums again... ignorant fucks... i am seriously being pushed so far away from the republican party that i used to be a part of....
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    Of course you read well and noticed that your quoted reply has a last polled date of four November. Hence the words I originally typed which say POST election. I will assume (perhaps wrongly) that you know when the election occurred. That was the day all the ignorant lies on the right came crashing down around your guys ears.

    Most people do not want Obamacare repealed. If they did they didn't show up at the polls and if they didn't show up at the polls they have chosen not to be of consequence to this nation.

    I will agree that the program needs to be tweaked. It could have been the best program in the world if ignorant backwards ass fucking retard republicans had actually provided constructive input instead of just being the losers that they are.... wait is that partisan.

    Boehner and McConnell know they are caught with their pants down. Obamacare is law and taxes are going up... those two things are facts. The only real question now is HOW. So you have the bitter partisan republican states refusing to set up exchanges. And the bitter losing queens of the party saying huffy and puffy things to their home audience thinking they can get away with it. They wont. .
    LOL

    the day after the election people changed their minds

    your boo * didn't even campaign on Obamacare - he knew it was a loser - how come u don't

    you're so partisan it's gross

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    Oh I can figure it out... just a 45 yo man acting like a teenager is amusing... but if you have no respect for yourself i don't imagine I can be convinced to have respect for you....
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    Oh I can figure it out... just a 45 yo man acting like a teenager is amusing... but if you have no respect for yourself i don't imagine I can be convinced to have respect for you....
    dude you're a sad but not hot mess

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    Ahh see you are on the playground somewhere... Check
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    Is that guy for real? lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    $700 a month is crazy. Although there's nothing in the bill that says it's going to affordable except the name of the bill.

    More people than ever will be without health insurance and will pay the fine. That makes no sense.
    Median rate in MA as of 2012 is $528/month for single. Mine is higher due to some "preexisting conditions". These are the kinds of rates that the rest of the US will see in the future due to Obamacare. Course if you make below $30k/year, the state will cover half that cost for basic care. The challenge is hitting that $4k deductible till you get the freebie stuff.

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    Well I have to give it to you Max as Mass currently has the only system that you can get actual data from and then extrapolate that for all of Obamacare...

    This is what bothers me the most about the obstructionism Republican party... they could have exhibited the better practices nature of the business class they say they are mostly supported by for being smart about government.... yet they didn't look at a single other countries healthcare system to determine the pitfalls and develop something that works the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    Oh I can figure it out... just a 45 yo man acting like a teenager is amusing... but if you have no respect for yourself i don't imagine I can be convinced to have respect for you....
    Hard to have respect for someone who insists on being immature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxpowr9 View Post
    Median rate in MA as of 2012 is $528/month for single. Mine is higher due to some "preexisting conditions". These are the kinds of rates that the rest of the US will see in the future due to Obamacare. Course if you make below $30k/year, the state will cover half that cost for basic care. The challenge is hitting that $4k deductible till you get the freebie stuff.
    In other words, a lot of people are now going to have the privilege of learning what many of us have known all along: that insurance is nothing but a complex form of gambling where the house gets a greater cut than Vegas casinos.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    Of course you read well and noticed that your quoted reply has a last polled date of four November. Hence the words I originally typed which say POST election. I will assume (perhaps wrongly) that you know when the election occurred. That was the day all the ignorant lies on the right came crashing down around your guys ears.

    Most people do not want Obamacare repealed. If they did they didn't show up at the polls and if they didn't show up at the polls they have chosen not to be of consequence to this nation.

    I will agree that the program needs to be tweaked. It could have been the best program in the world if ignorant backwards ass fucking retard republicans had actually provided constructive input instead of just being the losers that they are.... wait is that partisan.

    Boehner and McConnell know they are caught with their pants down. Obamacare is law and taxes are going up... those two things are facts. The only real question now is HOW. So you have the bitter partisan republican states refusing to set up exchanges. And the bitter losing queens of the party saying huffy and puffy things to their home audience thinking they can get away with it. They wont. .
    No doubt the support for ObamaCare has changed since the election. It's the same thing I see in parking lots around town -- new Obama-Biden bumper stickers on cars. People want to be part of a winner. In my opinion they were pussies who couldn't commit.

    In ten years ObamaCare will be the huge monster that will do the USA in unless it's stopped or slowed down.

    It is a big fucking thing -- we all are gonna get fucked and not in a good way.

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    ^ Hopefully in ten years, the US will have single payer insurance and universal care which will result in the same lower case costs and better outcomes that most of the rest of the western world enjoys.

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    Boner please check the elections results and vote of the people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    No doubt the support for ObamaCare has changed since the election. It's the same thing I see in parking lots around town -- new Obama-Biden bumper stickers on cars. People want to be part of a winner. In my opinion they were pussies who couldn't commit.

    In ten years ObamaCare will be the huge monster that will do the USA in unless it's stopped or slowed down.

    It is a big fucking thing -- we all are gonna get fucked and not in a good way.
    Even if your claim here were true and we all accept it as true-- what you omit all perspective on is the growth rate of costs in the private healthcare/insurance system, and how that's already "doing people in." You can't blame one policy for a problem that would exist and would get worse in the future with or without that policy. Yet that appears to be what you choose to do.

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    USA is in dire shape and taxes will have to go up all around plus they will have to implement austerity as every level of government. Otherwise their debt will blow up and sink their entire economy sending it into depression. The recovery as such has been fragile, subpar, aenemic, and full of setbacks because these measures weren't implemented in the first place. Even the euro zone realised early on what needed to be done but the Americans don't even realise the magnitude of their problem let alone the austerity measures required to address their current account problems. Americans 'blank cheque' is running out of not only paper but ink as well.
    Your post comments are forwarded to the CIA.

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    ^ As long as the American debt is backed by the ability of the governments to tax the citizens...it is the gold standard in the sovereign debt universe.

    Demolish this precept and US debt will be junk in a decade.

    Which, I would note....would totally suit some of the financial world shorting the US.

    The choice is clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    No doubt the support for ObamaCare has changed since the election. It's the same thing I see in parking lots around town -- new Obama-Biden bumper stickers on cars. People want to be part of a winner. In my opinion they were pussies who couldn't commit.

    In ten years ObamaCare will be the huge monster that will do the USA in unless it's stopped or slowed down.

    It is a big fucking thing -- we all are gonna get fucked and not in a good way.
    So what you are saying Jack is your faith in the USA is so solid that you think we are incapable of running a program that works fine in EVERY other industrialized first world nation and many third world nations. That is a very sad lack of patriotism. I am positive our process will shape it into a quite workable plan. I bet if there was an internet back in FDR's time the idea of Social Secuirty would be viewed as the end of America... the end I tell you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post

    More people than ever will be without health insurance and will pay the fine. That makes no sense.
    This of course is nonsense that isn't consistent with reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    In ten years ObamaCare will be the huge monster that will do the USA in unless it's stopped or slowed down.

    It is a big fucking thing -- we all are gonna get fucked and not in a good way.
    Is there any actual proof for this or just more grandstanding like they do on Fox News? Obamacare is actually beneficial in the long term... and will provide for increased profits. But a single payer system would be even better... like how the rest of the developed world does it... even Japan and Germany. Two countries that CARE more about the healthcare of their citizens.

    And who came up with universal health care anyways? Was it some commie nation as they say on Fox News? Nope. It was Germany.

    It's ironic how the US spends more on a broken health care system per capita than other developed countries spend on their universal health care systeme. Adopt universal health care to reduce costs and to improve quality... it's just obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    So what you are saying Jack is your faith in the USA is so solid that you think we are incapable of running a program that works fine in EVERY other industrialized first world nation and many third world nations. That is a very sad lack of patriotism. I am positive our process will shape it into a quite workable plan. I bet if there was an internet back in FDR's time the idea of Social Secuirty would be viewed as the end of America... the end I tell you.
    Interesting take on it-- people believe the U.S. is the best country in the world but reject out of hand that it can do public healthcare as well as the UK, Germany, Canada, Japan, etc. etc. etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgymike View Post
    USA is in dire shape and taxes will have to go up all around plus they will have to implement austerity as every level of government. Otherwise their debt will blow up and sink their entire economy sending it into depression. The recovery as such has been fragile, subpar, aenemic, and full of setbacks because these measures weren't implemented in the first place. Even the euro zone realised early on what needed to be done but the Americans don't even realise the magnitude of their problem let alone the austerity measures required to address their current account problems. Americans 'blank cheque' is running out of not only paper but ink as well.
    The euro zone is imploding. The very last thing we need to do while we are experiencing an anemic growth rate of 1.9% a year is to stop the vital government spending that is a good third if not half of that growth. We do need to make sensible adjustments and cuts to save by finding efficiencies not by cutting out programs and instilling austerity. If the republicans get their austerity plan then we will see the great depression because republicans and cutting spending are exactly what caused that tragedy.



    ^^ read this entire article if you are interested. Unions are down to something like 17% of America... there is zero chance that is changing the economy for all of us.

    Will the New York Times’ Reporters ever admit that European Austerity is the Problem?
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    The reason for much of the slowdown in Europe has to do with embracing austerity. Countries that avoided austerity were better off. Cutting government spending can cause slowdowns in growth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    The reason for much of the slowdown in Europe has to do with embracing austerity. Countries that avoided austerity were better off. Cutting government spending can cause slowdowns in growth.
    Europe is in trouble because they have created socialist states that cannot keep providing free goods to people who don't do anything.

    They broke themselves. Eventually Germany will not be able or will choose not to provide for everyone else.

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    Socialist states that cannot keep providing free goods to people who don't do anything? Laughable and frankly unprovable. Simplistic American mentality imposed on a completely non-American society. How utterly shallow...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Europe is in trouble because they have created socialist states that cannot keep providing free goods to people who don't do anything.

    They broke themselves. Eventually Germany will not be able or will choose not to provide for everyone else.
    This is not true. The nations slide deeper into recession because of capitalism, a unregulated market and austerity. It isn't about socialism. Nice Faux News line.. it's absolutely false.

    And the states can't keep giving free goods to people who don't do anything? Sounds like the same old ignorant mentality that Mitt Romney spewed. ABSOLUTELY FALSE too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayHawk View Post
    So what you are saying Jack is your faith in the USA is so solid that you think we are incapable of running a program that works fine in EVERY other industrialized first world nation and many third world nations. That is a very sad lack of patriotism. I am positive our process will shape it into a quite workable plan. I bet if there was an internet back in FDR's time the idea of Social Secuirty would be viewed as the end of America... the end I tell you.
    Social security is broke. Medicare has been raided to help pay for ObamaCare (Seniors will find that out in 2014).

    Patriotism is great but you can't deposit it in a bank or write a check with it.

    No one was ever forced to be a patriot -- it's a choice. ObamaCare is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiancarloC View Post
    This is not true. The nations slide deeper into recession because of capitalism, a unregulated market and austerity. It isn't about socialism. Nice Faux News line.. it's absolutely false.

    And the states can't keep giving free goods to people who don't do anything? Sounds like the same old ignorant mentality that Mitt Romney spewed. ABSOLUTELY FALSE too.
    So explain how capitalism is killing Greece and Spain?

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    ObamaCare is forcing people to do stuff? Where does it do that? Medicare hasn't been raided. Pay attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    No one was ever forced to be a patriot -- it's a choice. ObamaCare is not.
    Oh cry me a river. HE HAS NO CHOICE!!! You have no choice but to pay the rent either. I think we should address that at the Supreme Court and then whine if they strike us down.
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    ^^

    ObamaCare forces you to buy insurance. ObamaCare will take a little less than 1 Trillion from Medicare to be implemented.

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    And then pay itself in other ways. So what about that rent situation? Real tragedy. Almost like rape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    ^^

    ObamaCare forces you to buy insurance. ObamaCare will take a little less than 1 Trillion from Medicare to be implemented.
    So? It's the same case in every other developed country... but other developed countries have a single payer system.

    And that part on medicare is a falsehood and is just a Fox talking point.

    I guess one shouldn't pay their electric bill, rent, or taxes for that matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    So explain how capitalism is killing Greece and Spain?
    I just did. Those countries got damaged by an unregulated market and in particular Spain (a country I know a lot about I MIGHT FUCKING ADD) was a real estate market that went bust. Spain did itself in further by embracing the austerity lies that are floating around Europe right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Springer View Post
    Social security is broke. Medicare has been raided to help pay for ObamaCare (Seniors will find that out in 2014).

    Patriotism is great but you can't deposit it in a bank or write a check with it.

    No one was ever forced to be a patriot -- it's a choice. ObamaCare is not.

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    So explain how capitalism is killing Greece and Spain?
    Okay first of all Social Security is easily fixed by raising the cap. Simple math takes the system out 75 more years and then only drops to 95% of a payout from the previous seventy five years.

    Obama also RAIDED the Pell grant system and took the handouts we were giving big banks and simply used the same money to provide more pell grants and get kids education... same situation with medicare... monies being paid OVER top of fees were cut out to stop rewarding HMO's for inefficiency. funny how an election year talking point that was absolutely baseless and proven so on the campaign trail yet you still haul it around.

    The most successful nation on planet earth currently is entirely and fully the most socialist state ... bet you cant name that country can ya Jack?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bike10 View Post
    Boner please check the elections results and vote of the people.
    Boehner is more concerned about remaining Speaker.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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