Tell me more about Andreus

[Telstra]

I think blogspot diverts you to a national server wherever you are. His blog comes up as .ca when I click on it.

That must be it ...

[BENDERBOY]

I joined joined JUB after Andreus was gone so i don't know much about his postings.
However AndrewD is still in many people's mind about his mental issues ?

Perhaps you could make a thread about him Telstra, hopefully it'll be as wonderful as this one has turned out to be.

[Telstra]

Perhaps you could make a thread about him Telstra, hopefully it'll be as wonderful as this one has turned out to be.

LOL, if you wanted more, you can create one.
title " Tell me more about AndrewD" ? they both starts with Andre

[BostonPirate]

Sorry, I can't find a picture of him on my computer, guys.

I will check with a moderator or admin to make sure that it's ok, and if it is, I will scan the picture of him I have on the wall in my office and post it tomorrow.

It was one of his favorites.

[JohannBessler]

Oh yes, I remember those ... just don't recall ever seeing a face pic of him on here.

Andreus was a fascinating, opinionated and somewhat enigmatic presence on J U B, but no more so than many other Jubbers who've come and gone over the years. It's interesting that his 'presence' is still felt here several years after his death, while other long-gone Jubbers, equally as fascinating and influential, appear to have faded from our memories altogether. Perhaps the fact that Andreus was the epitome of a Greek God in looks, and died so young and in such sad circumstances has a bit to do with his memory living on.

I saw his face pics on a number of occasions, plus some nudes. He had wavy, raven-black hair that he wore brushed back from his face.

He had an impressive endowment, which I saw in pictures that also had his face, so I had no doubt that the pics were him. I mention his endowment because this issue--and his attitude towards it--taught me a lesson.

He liked the attention his endowment brought him, but in truth, he found it a curse. He never achieved full sexual satisfaction, he said, because no one could take it all--they'd just nibble on the ends.

Now most of us JUBbers--including me--would like to be a little larger. I have six inches; but I see a six-inch endowment as borr--ring; how much nicer would it feel to have more?

But Andreus told me that he wished he had a more normal endowment, and that people like me should feel happier with what we had.

I realize that bringing up this topic in the context of a deceased man may seem disrespectful to some, but I feel we can learn life lessons from other people--both from those who still live, and from those who have joined the parade that has passed by.

We love you, Andreus. Rest in peace, mon ami.

[BostonPirate]

I saw his face pics on a number of occasions, plus some nudes. He had wavy, raven-black hair that he wore brushed back from his face.

He had an impressive endowment, which I saw in pictures that also had his face, so I had no doubt that the pics were him. I mention his endowment because this issue--and his attitude towards it--taught me a lesson.

He liked the attention his endowment brought him, but in truth, he found it a curse. He never achieved full sexual satisfaction, he said, because no one could take it all--they'd just nibble on the ends.

Now most of us JUBbers--including me--would like to be a little larger. I have six inches; but I see a six-inch endowment as borr--ring; how much nicer would it feel to have more?

But Andreus told me that he wished he had a more normal endowment, and that people like me should feel happier with what we had.

I realize that bringing up this topic in the context of a deceased man may seem disrespectful to some, but I feel we can learn life lessons from other people--both from those who still live, and from those who have joined the parade that has passed by.

We love you, Andreus. Rest in peace, mon ami.

He was a big man, a little over six feet tall. He shaved his head for the last few years, which I always thought was odd, since he had a few scars on one side of his head that were only revealed when he shaved it. He had beautiful black hair when it grew out, though.

He also had a weird habit of tipping his head back a bit when he looked at someone that was oddly off putting to people. I guess there were a host of little habits that you'd never have known if you didn't spend time with him in person. His voice was a bit rough, but he smoked pot like a chimney. He tended to have a greek accent when he was relaxed, but if he was on the spot, so to speak he knew how to sound generically american.

Do you still have any of the pictures he sent you?

[JohannBessler]

Unfortunately, no. They now exist only in my memory.

Several here have spoken of a darker side in his nature, but I never saw it. All I ever saw was a Greek God.

[G-Lexington]

Even though I was here with him for awhile, we didn't interact much. He had a sort of "come at me bro" attitude that I found offputting. Our few interactions in threads were pleasant and usually humorous, and he struck me as at least moderately intelligent. But I never formed the connection with him that others did.

...I supposed this is the sentence where I'm supposed to say I really wish I had, and how much I regret not doing so when I had the chance. But I guess I really don't. Not because I don't think he was everything everybody says he was, but I guess because I stand by my five-year-old decision not to attempt to connect with him. I'm happy he enriched others' lives, though.

Lex

[Kyanimal]

I am Truly envious of BP, and his Personal relationship with Andreus! As close as I felt that I managed to become a Friend with Dreu, through our interaction "Here", I was always at a physical Distance from an Individual that I Admired, Respected, and held Close, through the mere aspects of the Internet, and the Power of His personality!

We didn't always agree with each other! However, I felt I got to (cyberly) KNOW Him! Dreu was one of those Singular Exceptions in the realm of Human Beings!

Though I have experienced the passing of many people that I've know in Real Life, Dreu's passing may have had more of an effect, a "truer" sense of loss!

Yes, He had his own 'foibles', and 'weaknesses'. However, the way he approached them, and dealt with them, was as HONEST, and Forthright, as Anyone I've encountered since!

And, DAMN IT!, I miss Him!

Keep smilin'!!
Chaz

[BostonPirate]

Even though I was here with him for awhile, we didn't interact much. He had a sort of "come at me bro" attitude that I found offputting. Our few interactions in threads were pleasant and usually humorous, and he struck me as at least moderately intelligent. But I never formed the connection with him that others did.

...I supposed this is the sentence where I'm supposed to say I really wish I had, and how much I regret not doing so when I had the chance. But I guess I really don't. Not because I don't think he was everything everybody says he was, but I guess because I stand by my five-year-old decision not to attempt to connect with him. I'm happy he enriched others' lives, though.

Lex

My husband was not particularly fond of him. For him though it was the foot thing. He constantly shook his foot, to the point that you couldn't sit next to him in a booth at a restaurant because it was so annoying.

I am Truly envious of BP, and his Personal relationship with Andreus! As close as I felt that I managed to become a Friend with Dreu, through our interaction "Here", I was always at a physical Distance from an Individual that I Admired, Respected, and held Close, through the mere aspects of the Internet, and the Power of His personality!

We didn't always agree with each other! However, I felt I got to (cyberly) KNOW Him! Dreu was one of those Singular Exceptions in the realm of Human Beings!

Though I have experienced the passing of many people that I've know in Real Life, Dreu's passing may have had more of an effect, a "truer" sense of loss!

Yes, He had his own 'foibles', and 'weaknesses'. However, the way he approached them, and dealt with them, was as HONEST, and Forthright, as Anyone I've encountered since!

And, DAMN IT!, I miss Him!

Keep smilin'!!
Chaz

We had a memorial here in Boston for his friends because his body was sent to be buried next to his mother. This is the song that was played at his service. It was one of his favorites.

[bankside]

Despite my reputation for aloof buttoned-down rigidity, I think I can still muster a louche grin when I say, I cannot imagine that he shook his foot whilst making love.

[BostonPirate]

Despite my reputation for aloof buttoned-down rigidity, I think I can still muster a louche grin when I say, I cannot imagine that he shook his foot whilst making love.

Neither can I.

But that was usually the last part of his body people actually noticed when he took his clothes off.

[Kyanimal]

Perhaps because of, or rather in spite of, His physical, Sexual, allure, the Beauty of his Mind, and the Respect, though HONEST Aggressiveness, that he pursued with his beliefs, and perceptions, were more Sincere than most Anyone I've interacted with before!

With all of his Human "weaknesses", Dreu was a Guy that Earned my Utmost Admiration and Respect! And, given my own foibles, and perspectives, in all Humility, that's not an easy thing to do!

Keep smilin'!!
Chaz

[BostonPirate]

It was the greeks that had the whole body mind soul thing happening a few thousand years ago. I guess they meant it...LOL

And Both the Thanos boys were OBSESSED with this greek pop star... I am told it's rather common in gay greek men and young women. I just thought it would be nice to actually hear his native language in a thread about him. He loved this song and this singer.I have no idea what the lyrics are, what they mean in greek. If anyone can understand greek, I would really like to know the translation

[Huntneo(PT)]

I didn't have the strong connection some of you guys here seemed to have had with him, but the times I remember interacting with him were pleasant. He made me feel comfortable here on JUB, and always had a way of addressing me that made me feel at ease.

I mostly remember him joking with me and saying things that made me "LOL" a lot. Considering how myopic and opinionated I must have came across as during that time, I'm surprised he and I never had an altercation.

I liked Andreus.

[T-Rexx]

I did not know him well. I understood that he was a correspondent for some media organization, and that he was obliged occasionally to travel to the Middle East for this.

A few people here didn't like him very much. He was very passionate about things, especially his Muslim religion, which he was frequently defending in posts. I could never understand why he clung so faithfully to a religion that hated him so much. But, that was Andreus.

He once told me that one of my posts here (a commentary on GWB's understanding of democracy in Iraq) was the most insightful post he had ever read on JUB. I will always love him for that.

[JohannBessler]

Didn't Andreus have a lover who also posted on JUB?

If I recall correctly, his Muslim faith played a key role in their breakup.

[BostonPirate]

I can't imagine that he wouldn't have like you Huntneo.

T-Rexx... One thing about the guy.. he never complimented people unless he meant it. You write very carefully and express ideas well. That alone would have attracted him. Yeah he got caught up in the media thing. It happens. We considered it a great loss when he gave up his tenure to go do that. He liked the thrill of chasing a picture. Interestingly enough, the photography was not really his main source of academic interest. His degrees were in languages. He was a translator by trade. His specialty was converting Arabic, three dialects, into modern French. He had opportunities to become wealthy once the Gov't got hungry for Arabic translators, but he refused to work for them.

[BostonPirate]

Didn't Andreus have a lover who also posted on JUB?

If I recall correctly, his Muslim faith played a key role in their breakup.

I remember him having a fascination with one or two people online but I have no idea if he met them here. The first one was bad, both for him and the other guy. It was an unhealthy obsession that messed him up a lot. I believe his father finally had to intervene on that one to put a stop to it.

There was another guy from the south that he really liked, but his brother and his health sort of took that away.

The people he slept with were all very different. He rarely made a romantic choice that I understood much less agreed with. He was fond of telling all of us ... well he just told us to fuck off if we meddled, so we didn't. Never get between a greek man and his passion.

[Telstra]

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When did he died?
was it before November 2007 ?

[HoodedRat]

Just out of interest. How do you think he gave himself away? Because there were some of us that, at the time, were sceptical, wrongly it seems, about his story, if I remember rightly.

'Andreus', posting as 'Mitri', gave himself away by his posting style ... much as he has given himself away yet again in his very first post in this thread under the nom de jub that he has been using for the past couple of years.

I am not the only Jubber who realised this; but most of them have long since moved on, so I doubt that anyone will support my view in this thread.

[BostonPirate]

'Andreus', posting as 'Mitri', gave himself away by his posting style ... much as he has given himself away yet again in his very first post in this thread under the nom de jub that he has been using for the past couple of years.

I am not the only Jubber who realised this; but most of them have long since moved on, so I doubt that anyone will support my view in this thread.

You're playing s areal sick game there, Champ. Do you kick children at the circus for fun as well, or are you one of those mentals that sees Elvis Presley at the grocery every week?

Seen Santy Claus yet this year?

How about the tooth fairy?

Sad and pathetic, to have to admit that you are one of these people that carries on like a loon for fun, but you stand in line.

Once again.....


Bullshit, fantasy, and more bullshit,

[HoodedRat]

^
You've just given yourself away yet again 'Andreus'/'Mitri'/'BostonPirate'/'Whatever'.

You're the one who has been playing a sick game here for many years.

Why not simply put me on ignore and then feel free to carry on with your pathetic twisted little fantasy life unchallenged.

[Telstra]

^
You've just given yourself away yet again 'Andreus'/'Mitri'/'BostonPirate'/'Whatever'.

You're the one who has been playing a sick game here for many years.

Why not simply put me on ignore and then feel free to carry on with your pathetic twisted little fantasy life unchallenged.

Andreus = Mitri = BostonPirate ?
wow wow wow, if it is true what is the punishment .... ?

So BostonPirate style of posting is similar to Andreus ? interesting.

[BostonPirate]

^
You've just given yourself away yet again 'Andreus'/'Mitri'/'BostonPirate'/'Whatever'.

You're the one who has been playing a sick game here for many years.

Why not simply put me on ignore and then feel free to carry on with your pathetic twisted little fantasy life unchallenged.

Dude you are a weird man. Pure and simple. You live in your fantasy world and things will turn out fine for you, I'm sure. You have a feeling about this and you HAVE to be right?

It's strange. Utterly bizarro, and I will do exactly as I please, just as it's obvious you will do your own sick thing. You weren't even here. dec 2010?

As if you could really know.

Sick buddy, real sick. You need help. Oh look. It's your intellectual pal... Telstra.

[Telstra]

Dude you are a weird man. Pure and simple. You live in your fantasy world and things will turn out fine for you, I'm sure. You have a feeling about this and you HAVE to be right?

It's strange. Utterly bizarro, and I will do exactly as I please, just as it's obvious you will do your own sick thing. You weren't even here. dec 2010?

As if you could really know.

Sick buddy, real sick. You need help.

ummm it is abit strange to get angry/aggressive if it is not true.
If it is me, i just laugh it off without a fuss.

HoodedRat is an old & experienced member with a new name.

[BostonPirate]

Unless it happens to be smack about someone you care about. Then it's not happening, and the bullshit if being called for once and all. What a strange and bizarre world to live in.

Two internet trolls having fun on a wednseday morning.

[Enchanted]

It's the strangest thing. I guess if you are active on the internet, you never really die. Never thought of it that way.



No

I would post pictures of him, but he was very particular about that for religious reasons. how about the ones he used as his avatar and signature... I have managed to locate those and he used them himself.

He was fond of being nude, and you only had to see him naked once to never forget it...lol

Wait, I think I can find a few relic pictures here at JUB....

So beautiful.

[BostonPirate]

ummm it is abit strange to get angry/aggressive if it is not true.
If it is me, i just laugh it off without a fuss.

HoodedRat is an old & experienced member with a new name.

AHHH

I get it now. Thanks for the illumination.

That's how he gets those things in his head. It's who HE is. Peachy. First class.

[BostonPirate]

So beautiful.

He was many things, Enchanted. Beautiful was one. Troubled was another.

[Telstra]

Unless it happens to be smack about someone you care about. Then it's not happening, and the bullshit if being called for once and all. What a strange and bizarre world to live in.

Two internet trolls having fun on a wednseday morning.

Oh dear, you are digging yourself deeper here.
HoodedRat is a good man. I read his posts before since 2007.

[Enchanted]

He was many things, Enchanted. Beautiful was one. Troubled was another.

I wonder...Did you had something more than friendship with him?
I mean how did you recognized he's on his avatar?

[BostonPirate]

Oh dear, you are digging yourself deeper here.
HoodedRat is a good man. I read his posts before since 2007.

Really dude? Tell me some more about how he has signed on here as other people again? Let's go back and read what he said about how he feels about that, what say?

The only thing he exposed is himself, with your help, of doing what he thinks a dead person is doing.

[BostonPirate]

I wonder...Did you had something more than friendship with him?
I mean how did you recognized he's on his avatar?

No. We never had sex. Not that I would have minded, but that would have gotten in the way of his Ego.

[Telstra]

Really dude? Tell me some more about how he has signed on here as other people again? Let's go back and read what he said about how he feels about that, what say?

The only thing he exposed is himself, with your help, of doing what he thinks a dead person is doing.

HoodedRat will defend himself just fine.

However, i don't understand your aggressive posts if it is not true.
Human behavior tells me something about that.

[Enchanted]

No. We never had sex. Not that I would have minded, but that would have gotten in the way of his Ego.

It's weird for a handsome young man's ego to depends of sleeping with...Hmm,nevermind.
It's just that it doesn't really make any sense,if you know what I mean.

[BostonPirate]

You know nothing of friendship, Pal.

You both need to go outside more often.

[BostonPirate]

It's weird for a handsome young man's ego to depends of sleeping with...Hmm,nevermind.
It's just that it doesn't really make any sense,if you know what I mean.

No not really. I don't.

I just said that his ego prevented him from sleeping with me. You seem to think the same. Or are you trying to say that when you think you're pretty, you sleep with people that you are not attracted to, just to make them think you're pretty?

[Enchanted]

No not really. I don't.

I just said that his ego prevented him from sleeping with me. You seem to think the same. Or are you trying to say that when you think you're pretty, you sleep with people that you are not attracted to, just to make them think you're pretty?

I get you,this time.

[BostonPirate]

I get you,this time.

You are Macedonian, right? Can you tell me what the words in the Sakis Rouvas song mean? I would really appreciate it.

[Enchanted]

You are Macedonian, right? Can you tell me what the words in the Sakis Rouvas song mean? I would really appreciate it.

From what I understood the chours says something like he wants from someone to go to Cairo,to apologize,to ask for forgiveness and walk naked into the desert.

My Greek is broken,as I'm from Slavic Macedonia,though I have an origin from the both sides.

[BostonPirate]

From what I understood the chours says something like he wants from someone to go to Cairo,to apologize,to ask for forgiveness and walk naked into the desert.

My Greek is broken,as I'm from Slavic Macedonia,though I have an origin from the both sides.

Seems to be a common blood mix. Drews mother was of Persian decent, but her family moved to Croatia, where I think she met the Father. I am not sure how so many Slavic peoples found their way to Greece, or why.

Thanks for the translation, buddy. That would be something that he would probably have romanticized about.

[tombastep]

I never really has great interactions with him on here either and I agree with Lex on the "come at me bro" attitude at times. I don't recall too much of him that doesn't seem like he was being confrontational.

And to be honest I can't blame people for being optimistic on here about things. There have been plenty people who have pretended to be someone else and people who have strung members along when they have done horrible things (which where later proved in articles in real life).

[Enchanted]

Seems to be a common blood mix. Drews mother was of Persian decent, but her family moved to Croatia, where I think she met the Father. I am not sure how so many Slavic peoples found their way to Greece, or why.

Thanks for the translation, buddy. That would be something that he would probably have romanticized about.

You are welcome

[BostonPirate]

I never really has great interactions with him on here either and I agree with Lex on the "come at me bro" attitude at times. I don't recall too much of him that doesn't seem like he was being confrontational.

And to be honest I can't blame people for being optimistic on here about things. There have been plenty people who have pretended to be someone else and people who have strung members along when they have done horrible things (which where later proved in articles in real life).

I wanted him to still be alive as well. He beat the odds so many times that I guess his friends in Boston grew to expect him to always fight and win. When he didn't it was hard.

I went through this period where I thought I saw him walking the streets on occasion, but after about six months, that passed.

[bankside]

I must say that it's rather unseemly to suggest that a dead person was a fabrication and a fake brother and fake followers online without some fairly substantial evidence.

"Similarity of posting style" counts only as proof of the greatest cynicism or paranoia on the part of observers who've not thought things through.

I am certain for example that my posting style would greatly resemble that of my brother if he had both taught me English and shown me how to post on an online forum he introduced me to, and who was my mentor, and whose example and temperament I was bound to follow by the nature of our relationship as brothers.

A few weeks ago, my signature read "One need not be naive to be open-minded," but it could also have read "One need not be cynical to be worldly."

[BostonPirate]

I must say that it's rather unseemly to suggest that a dead person was a fabrication and a fake brother and fake followers online without some fairly substantial evidence.

"Similarity of posting style" counts only as proof of the greatest cynicism or paranoia on the part of observers who've not thought things through.

I am certain for example that my posting style would greatly resemble that of my brother if he had both taught me English and shown me how to post on an online forum he introduced me to, and who was my mentor, and whose example and temperament I was bound to follow by the nature of our relationship as brothers.

A few weeks ago, my signature read "One need not be naive to be open-minded," but it could also have read "One need not be cynical to be worldly."

I read papers that he wrote. Drew had a capitalization issue. He never capitalized anything. It was particularly jarring to read when he constantly refered to himself in the small "i" version of the letter. When he got criticism for it, he shrugged it off. Anything he wrote would have to have that issue.

That is something that only I would know if I had read his work. When you posted a link to that blog, it was how I knew it was really his. He does that all through the blog.

I think if anyone goes back and looks at the stuff they will see it.

People look at a set of things, and through THEIR experience, they judge the situation. The very guy that says that Drew and Mitri are the same person and me as well... as if I haven't made a complete ass of myself stinking drunk on occasion on jub, BTW, a thing he also would never have done.... but the guy that makes the accusation, by Telstra's admission, is the one deleting and coming back under different names.

So I have no idea.

[tombastep]

It is rather unseemly to pretend these things dont happen.

[cityboy-stl]

Ah Andreus, still controversial and beloved after all this time. I miss him. RIP.

One thing I never knew was how to pronounce his name. I always said "Ahn-dray-us" but I know others said "An-drews".

[JohannBessler]

^Tomba, there undoubtedly exist posters that come and go under different names, but I can assure you that BostonPirate posts absolutely nothing like Andreus did. Andreus's posted in a kind of broken English that did not relate to grammar, but instead seemed to reflect some kind of broken thought process, if that makes sense.

Oh! I have thought of a good analogy. Do you know our good buddy Chance? Ever notice his posting style? Andreus posted a little bit like that.

At any rate, I feel like I have dropped into a Twilight Zone episode here. If feels so weird to see somebody (not you) assert that he didn't exist, that it seems surreal....(it makes me feel more sane lol)

I'm glad in a way I never met Andreus. Something about tragic figures tugs at my heart strings, and I'm afraid I might have fallen in love and done something stupid.