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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by loki81 View Post
    I'd say that about a lot of posters makes me glad I have avatar pictures turned off <3
    honestly, there's a couple of posters in here that i'm suspicious about though that either they're aliases or something isn't right about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    The only grain of insight so far has been the recent login to Andreus' account. Everything else has been rather base and distasteful speculation about a JUB member otherwise understood to be a deceased person, and above all I'm surprised the thread continued after the second post, unless moderators were in possession of actual evidence instead of speculation and insinuation of their own. Not one of the "aha!" moments in this thread is inconsistent with what should actually be expected from the posting history of an eccentric but real poster. .
    I don't know if this is aimed at me, but I will treat it as if it were.

    Gentlemen, residents of the United States go into the public record--a record which anyone can search.

    Rest assured: if a man named Andreus Thanos (or his other "real" name) lived in the United States as a legal entity, he most assuredly would appear in that public record.

    There is no doubt to this whatsoever.

    Now if Andreus Thanos was a pseudonym, or he lived as an illegal immigrant, then all bets are off.

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by JohannBessler View Post
    I don't know if this is aimed at me, but I will treat it as if it were.

    Gentlemen, residents of the United States go into the public record--a record which anyone can search.

    Rest assured: if a man named Andreus Thanos (or his other "real" name) lived in the United States as a legal entity, he most assuredly would appear in that public record.

    There is no doubt to this whatsoever.

    Now if Andreus Thanos was a pseudonym, or he lived as an illegal immigrant, then all bets are off.
    Fair enough, at the same time though if his brother was here as a college student and especially if he had served prison time.. there would DEFINITELY be a record of him.

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    Andreus Thanos being a pseudonym doesn't tie in with Boston Pirate's claims of knowing him though, so someone is definitely lying.

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by LaughOutLoud View Post
    Andreus Thanos being a pseudonym doesn't tie in with Boston Pirate's claims of knowing him though, so someone is definitely lying.
    Right that's what we pointed out a few times when the last 2-3 pages have been people saying stuff like "duh, it's reasonable for someone to not give their real name.."

    The difference is, a big poster here has verified that was supposed to be their 'real name' and identity.

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    I don't know if Greeks go by this rule, but Spanish go by Father-Mother hyphenated Surnames, and only use the Father's in America.

    Perhaps Andreus did the same - Example: Andreus Thanos-Olympian.
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    ^It would have shown in the public database, Borg.

    I think some of the posters in this thread (not you) do not want to face the ugly truth.

    On another note, several have comment that this story is a most remarkable, real-live murder mystery. Consider:

    1. Someone created a character.
    2. Someone killed him.
    3. Whodunit?
    4. We readers have to look for the clues.

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    Right that's what we pointed out a few times when the last 2-3 pages have been people saying stuff like "duh, it's reasonable for someone to not give their real name.."

    The difference is, a big poster here has verified that was supposed to be their 'real name' and identity.
    Urm....I'm not sure if I'm supposed to read your post as "FINALLY, SOMEONE ELSE GETS IT", or "Are you fucking serious, jackass? We've been saying this for the last 2-3 pages" haha, so I'mma just back away very slowly and wait for someone else to say something

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by LaughOutLoud View Post
    Andreus Thanos being a pseudonym doesn't tie in with Boston Pirate's claims of knowing him though, so someone is definitely lying.
    Exactly correct.

    I didn't want to single out BP, but he himself strongly asserts that

    *he knew him intimately
    *Andreus Thanos was his real name.

    The posters in here who are in denial don't have many more places to hide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareboy View Post
    I guess.

    We actually have one Jubber still active who did that and then was apparently resurrected after a period in purgatory.

    Obviously I have a very low opinion of anyone who might toy with some of their emotionally fragile fellows...but as long as they didn't try to raise money from the gullible...then it is a relatively modest betrayal.

    It would be the difference between your parents faking their own death when you were 7 in order to not have to take care of you any more and some guy telling his room mate to tell the one night stand who wanted to get in touch again that he had moved far, far away.
    I'm going to say that the nature of such a betrayal would fall somewhere between your two examples. No, it's not as extreme as abandoning a helpless child; but certainly, provoking grief is more serious than telling a white lie to a one night stand. I take it for granted that there were people here who felt they were friends enough with Andreus that they grieved for him; many of the sentiments in the Garden of Memories thread would seem to bear that out. Maybe I'm just not as cynical and suspicious as I ought to be?

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by LaughOutLoud View Post
    Urm....I'm not sure if I'm supposed to read your post as "FINALLY, SOMEONE ELSE GETS IT", or "Are you fucking serious, jackass? We've been saying this for the last 2-3 pages" haha, so I'mma just back away very slowly and wait for someone else to say something
    I'm saying yes, you get it, and the thread is growing a lot from people casting what seems to be frowns Johann's way when they don't know the full story of the thread.

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    ^The thing is that my information is cold, hard data pulled from public databases, not just "baseless speculation".

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    Ah right OK, that's fine then

    Maybe it's easier for me to look at it that way because I didn't know Andreus, his brother, BP, anyone, so I don't have those "close ties".
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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    I'm of the opinion that without the "hawt" part of his persona including a naked avatar he wouldn't have gotten half the attention he did.
    Actually, I'll give the guy (whoever he was) his due. He was fiercely passionate about things and extremely knowledgeable about things, and not shy to get stuck into anyone. And he could get his point across quite eloqently. Big penis aside, I think people would have gravitated to him anyway.

    Even I, who had only been here about a year and 1000 posts when he left and had very little direct interaction with him, considered him kinda larger than life. This, I think, is why this thread has reached 17 pages. I suspect were we to raise this about any number of other JUB big guns - no names need mentioning, but I'm sure if we drew up lists there'd be many names popping up on them more than once - who've made a big contribution here over the years, they'd get to double figures easily, hot or not.

    Make no mistake, Andreus could pull a crowd. Frankly I think we all deserve a bit more credit than "it's because he was hot and packing."

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by blackbeltninja View Post
    ... extremely knowledgeable ...he could get his point across quite eloqently...Andreus could pull a crowd...
    I wasn't around here to experience all that. I wish someone could search through the archives and re-post his greatest posts.

    (Boston Pirate, perhaps?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackbeltninja View Post
    Actually, I'll give the guy (whoever he was) his due. He was fiercely passionate about things and extremely knowledgeable about things, and not shy to get stuck into anyone. And he could get his point across quite eloqently. Big penis aside, I think people would have gravitated to him anyway.

    Even I, who had only been here about a year and 1000 posts when he left and had very little direct interaction with him, considered him kinda larger than life. This, I think, is why this thread has reached 17 pages. I suspect were we to raise this about any number of other JUB big guns - no names need mentioning, but I'm sure if we drew up lists there'd be many names popping up on them more than once - who've made a big contribution here over the years, they'd get to double figures easily, hot or not.

    Make no mistake, Andreus could pull a crowd. Frankly I think we all deserve a bit more credit than "it's because he was hot and packing."

    -d-
    It certainly contributes to being noticed. It's not as though any number of people here aren't opinionated with possibly interesting life stories.

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by pat grimshaw View Post
    I wasn't around here to experience all that. I wish someone could search through the archives and re-post his greatest posts.

    (Boston Pirate, perhaps?)
    Google: Andreus JustUsBoys You'll find more then you ever wanted to read.
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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Andreus had an occasional (and rather annoying) habit of posting pictures of "himself" for only a few minutes. He would post a link to a picture, and the picture would be removed after a few minutes.

    On one occasion, I recognized the picture he posted as that of a little-known amateur male model, who had once done a small series of outdoor nudes.

    It didn't strike me at the time as evidence that he was a fake. Lots of people who are not comfortable with their own appearance post pics of other people which they claim to be their own. It does not mean that they are not real people, with real lives and important things to say about the world.

    But, it does fit with the impression that much (or even all) of his persona was not what he claimed it to be.

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    Just beware, if I had posted all the things I've thought applicable and have been kind of wanting to say in this thread, we'd probably be on about page 40 by now. I keep typing in stuff, but then deciding not to hit the 'submit reply' button. I find it a fascinating thread.
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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by justaguy View Post
    I find it a fascinating thread.
    All be it, quite astounded at the depths I sank to, and how much of a jerk I sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justaguy View Post
    Just beware, if I had posted all the things I've thought applicable and have been kind of wanting to say…
    I wish you would unburden yourself of those thoughts.

    Some of us get overlooked because we behave like Jane Austen. Whereas others use JUB as their own personal cat scratching pole or incontinence pad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justaguy View Post
    Just beware, if I had posted all the things I've thought applicable and have been kind of wanting to say in this thread, we'd probably be on about page 40 by now. I keep typing in stuff, but then deciding not to hit the 'submit reply' button. I find it a fascinating thread.
    I wish you would have.

    Your pieces to the puzzle might solve a lot in this thread, or at the very least bring us that much closer.
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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Same. Unless there's some serious ethical issue involved I don't know why you'd withhold stuff but bother to mention you "know things."

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    I wonder why the administration here doesn't require proof of death to place a member into the Garden? There are probably a thousand or more deceased members on this website and we don't even know about their deaths. Just seems ironic that we can honor the loss of someone that may have very well never existed at all.
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    Rumor had it that Kahil's dick was bigger than Andreus'. Just saying is all.
    Everyone wants to be heard. No one wants to listen.

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    So maybe he just sought out a new life?

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    Same. Unless there's some serious ethical issue involved I don't know why you'd withhold stuff but bother to mention you "know things."
    Oh sorry. I don't know extra things that would shed any more light on the situation. I can't even remember half of what I was typing in now. Jubbers who know me from years ago might remember that if there is a topic I get into, I had a habit of making maybe 6 or 7 posts in a row without really saying much at all. Thats why it would have gone to 40 pages.

    Really, most of my points would be based around the fact that I'd prefer to read the mundane story of one real jubber, than the exciting and interesting story of a fake one (unless its in the story forum, which I like). I am really, really passionate about that. I came to the Jub forums at a time when I needed to connect and Jub became very important in my life, helping me through a rocky patch. When Andreus confessed to being HIV+ on here, I thought that was really amazing. That is why I said in that thread :

    Andreus,
    I have just read your thread from start to finish. It took me an hour or so, but it was one of the most rewarding hours I have ever spent. I don't personally know anyone who is HIV+ (perhaps that is a fault of my own making), but now I feel I do.
    Thankyou for sharing and all the best to you. From what I have read, you have all the mental armoury required to fight it. And I believe you will succeed.
    Justaguy.


    So I spent an hour of my life reading something that I could have done something else more constructive and worthy of my time. There still might be an Andreus, but I very much doubt his story. Unless there is something else that comes to light that swings things around. So, it's been an unpleasant, in many ways, thread, yet fascinating. But at the same time, if someone can see the possible consequences of their actions before embarking on a similar pathway, perhaps some good will come out of it.

    That's basically my thoughts in a nutshell.
    Last edited by justaguy; December 4th, 2012 at 03:49 PM.

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by -Callum- View Post
    I wonder why the administration here doesn't require proof of death to place a member into the Garden?
    So do you have someone, who in case of your death, will scan your death certificate a mail it to JUB?

    Nope? Thought so


    There are probably a thousand or more deceased members on this website and we don't even know about their deaths. Just seems ironic that we can honor the loss of someone that may have very well never existed at all.
    We also do have a few deceased members where I am very certain that they actually died. Most of them were well not "larger than life" just your average nice jubbers. Some had contact to other posters outside of JUB, some had their life-partner drop us a mail or write a PM.
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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by justaguy View Post
    That's basically my thoughts in a nutshell.
    Not that I'm as angry or devastated as I'm probably sounding. It was a long time ago, and as I said at the beginning, I was sceptical some time ago. Until BP said that he knew him, and so I thought perhaps I shouldn't be so sceptical ... and then ...

    But I'm not ready to be prescribed anti-anxieties or anything .... I'm still quite capable of functioning as a normal, happy human, despite this thread

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Answering your own threads isn't a good sign ... Be careful, you might turn into Joswanprince!
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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    ^ Justaguy and joswanprince are the same person???

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by borg69unimatrix View Post
    Answering your own threads isn't a good sign ...
    haha ... yea, I know. There must be a term for that in the medical dictionary by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justaguy View Post
    .... Until BP said that he knew him
    And BP now appears to have gone AWOL .... so the mystery deepens! This has become a plot worthy of an Agatha Christie novel. Not that I personally give a fuck whether Andreus was real or fake, mind! I never considered him a J U B buddy, anyway. To me, he was just another interesting, opinionated & somewhat enigmatic member. Fortunately, the friends I have made on here over the years have all been very 'real' to me, and I've never had any reason whatsoever to doubt that they are who they say they are.

    But do carry on with your investigations & comments, folks ... it's fascinating stuff!!
    Last edited by ozguy; December 4th, 2012 at 05:06 PM.

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by HunterM View Post
    ^ Justaguy and joswanprince are the same person???
    They lost me there too

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    ^^^ Joswan has been known to start threads, and then answer his own questions. I just didn't wanna see Justaguy start turning into him when I saw him quoting himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozguy View Post
    Fortunately, the friends I have made on here over the years have all been very 'real' to me, and I've never had any reason whatsoever to doubt that they are who they say they are.
    Surely you don't think you'll find those pictures I sent you anywhere else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by justaguy View Post
    Surely you don't think you'll find those pictures I sent you anywhere else?
    No way!!! They're our little secret ..... stud!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozguy View Post
    No way!!! They're our little secret ..... stud!!!
    Little?
    Everyone wants to be heard. No one wants to listen.

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    Tiny secret?

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    I found this surfing... somehow, I thought it fit here since this thread seems to be about resurrecting the un-dead.



    ... and I just thought it was kind of a cool picture, and didn't know anywhere else to share it.
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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Let's put it this way. I'm not going to be calling in any representatives from the Guiness Book of World Records.

    We're being sidetracked. Better get back on topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohannBessler View Post
    Until we hear from the moderators, how about a little fun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixthson View Post
    Oh gosh, good old Peto, Croynan's favorite nemesis. Any time Peto posted, I knew Croynan would soon be on his tail .... I really miss Croynan. What a major part of JUB he was and one of the best parts of JUB.
    Quote Originally Posted by HoodedRat View Post
    The Croynan vs Peto feud was a truly wondrous thing to behold.

    Peto's love of opera made him almost bearable at times.

    I too miss Croynan, he was always interesting.
    There was another J U B member (an Aussie, I think) who enjoyed taking the piss out of Peto, too, but his name escapes me for the moment. I actually had quite a number of private exchanges with Peto and found him to be a thoroughly charming and interesting guy. And yes, his knowledge of opera was amazing! Whether he actually was who he claimed to be, I don't really know, but I certainly enjoyed the PM's we exchanged. I know that many Jubbers believed he was a complete fake, though.

    As for Croynan ... he was a dear friend and I, too, miss him greatly on the boards! I did receive an email from him not too long ago .... He was dealing with a few issues in his life but is doing well and keeping busy.

    But I digress .... back to the super sleuthing, everyone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corny View Post
    We also do have a few deceased members where I am very certain that they actually died. Most of them were well not "larger than life" just your average nice jubbers. Some had contact to other posters outside of JUB, some had their life-partner drop us a mail or write a PM.
    ^This.

    In addition to some of us having met upwards of a dozen or more members in person, some of us have actually attended funerals of JUB members.

    That said, it is unlikely we ever learn of even half the deaths that have occurred.

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    A thread becomes SO popular, that it eventually drags you in, so here i am. And, now that i am, i no longer have faith that anybody is real except for myself. However, with that in mind, how do i know i'm really alive, this could all be a dream, a continuation of a life unknown to be ceased, this thread is a mind-fuck. Good-night, god bless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitchymo View Post
    .... this thread is a mind-fuck.
    Nah, it's fascinating!! Actually, I'm finding it quite hilarious. Love all the super sleuthing that's going on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozguy View Post
    Peto_Antoni ..... who remembers him?? Seem to recall a fair bit of drama on the boards when he was posting. Hmmmmm, I wonder ...........
    Though he is outside the topic of this thread (because I don't think his persona was a sock-puppet of a concurrent JUBber under a different account name), I was waiting for his name to come up. I don't believe that his JUB persona accurately reflected his own real-life persona, but some of his attributes were hard to fake (such as his knowledge of opera) and were probably true to himself. As with ozguy, I also exchanged some PM's with him and enjoyed what we exchanged, even though I felt he was some-degree-of-fake even at the time.

    Quote Originally Posted by refujiunderground View Post
    enchanted/sex kitten is either an alias or lying about a lot of shit. i don't buy his whole entire teacher story.
    It occurred to me, at the time, that "I REALLY HOPE THIS STORY IS A FAKE LIE." The alternative, if it's the truth, would mean that a Professor is out there in danger of having his career destroyed, or worse, over something entirely not his fault at all (aside from the bad decision to give answers before the exam). The story struck me as portraying the type of guy who could hold such a grudge that he could suddenly show up in class with a gun and start shooting people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Corny View Post
    We also do have a few deceased members where I am very certain that they actually died. Most of them were well not "larger than life" just your average nice jubbers. Some had contact to other posters outside of JUB, some had their life-partner drop us a mail or write a PM.
    It would be statistically impossible for some JUB members not to be dying, though it may not be at all common.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mitchymo View Post
    A thread becomes SO popular, that it eventually drags you in, so here i am. And, now that i am, i no longer have faith that anybody is real except for myself. However, with that in mind, how do i know i'm really alive, this could all be a dream, a continuation of a life unknown to be ceased, this thread is a mind-fuck. Good-night, god bless.
    God bless ? What the ..?


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    Quote Originally Posted by mitchymo View Post
    A thread becomes SO popular, that it eventually drags you in, so here i am. And, now that i am, i no longer have faith that anybody is real except for myself. However, with that in mind, how do i know i'm really alive, this could all be a dream, a continuation of a life unknown to be ceased, this thread is a mind-fuck. Good-night, god bless.
    I should write a horror short story about being a persona based around this story here.... and finding out none of my ID is real and my name never existed. lol.

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