Perhaps we should call a recess.
The difference in Dreu's posts and Kahil's were enough that if the same mind wrote them, then a writing award is due. A lot of the time they were posting real time in those swirling arguments.
Since we're all pointing fingers... the ONE person who I would think would be Andreus would be SLOPPYSECONDS !!!
Dun dun DUNNN !!!!!
C'mon... 15 pages, and HE is about the only person who hasn't commented here? Seriously?
The perfect disguise would be to pose as the "Village Idiot" out in the open, all the while lurking in the Shadows.
He's not fooling me... he can spell the big words, and not the little ones?
Star Trek TNG. Season 4.
Episode: The Drumhead
I remember that one!
And yes, JohannBessler is now getting a bit carried away with all of this and is accusing JUBbers left right and centre and imagining grand conspiracies in his head with no doubt hundreds of fake JUBbers.
The fact that Stacy has been in person to a JUB meet, and that Jasun is as real a person as you can possibly get (YouTube, his own website, his credit on porn vids) doesn't seem to matter.
He's like the JUB version of McCarthy.
(no doubt I'll be next in line for investigating now)
^^^ Don't single out Johann. All of us participating in this thread. Drama City.
GOOD CATCH, LaughOutLoud!
And Pit G has a geyser which erupts at least once per hour, sometimes as often as seven times in an hour, with no predictability or warning at all.
Pit X and Pit Z, on the other hand, are entirely safe and nothing dangerous is there.
Sorry, I really wanted to simply link to the song on YouTube or something, but it doesn't seem to be there.
Corny? He would know, surely.
Somebody else asked the IP question...I've logged into JUB from various IP's because I do a lot of traveling and am often far from my home IP. (I don't have, nor have ever had, any desire to post under anything besides my primary - and only - username here...or elsewhere on the internet.)
I'm trying to think of a scenario that could be "real" that would explain all this, but I can't think of one.
I don't think that anybody here, even anybody with the most robust imagination possible, could have foreseen how much activity this thread would get. This is the type of thread which usually falls below Page 3 within a couple of days.
"All legal U. S. residents who are 18 years or older, shall have an unconditional right to vote." - We need a 28th Amendment to the U. S. Constitution which resembles this...NOW!
VOTING: Just remember: "Be careful of what you DON'T wish for. You might just get it." GET OUT AND VOTE for what you DO wish for.
"I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires" - Susan B. Anthony
^I am pointing out the many facets of what is going on in this thread.
I can prove without a shadow of a doubt that I am both real and not now and have never posted as anyone but one of my own usernames.
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I already knew for certain that Stacy and Jasun were real people. In fact, I can tell you even more. At first, they detested each other. She thought him a misogynist, as I recall.
But over the months, they began to warm up to each other, and in fact, I think they are pretty close in real life.
So let's put that behind us. What do we have left? I have ascertained that:
1. No person with the name of Andreus Thanos (or his other "real name") has ever lived legally in the United States. I give it a 100% probability that Andreus was either a pseudonym or a sockpuppet.
2. Someone with very similar parameters as Jasun lives in Los Angeles, and has some kind of a tie to Denver. I give it a 60% likelihood this is the same person.
3. I haven't done any research on Kahil. He was our last remaining thread to Andreus's identity, but someone PMed me and told me that there's considerable doubt that they ever met in person.
4. I felt sure I found Stacy's other sockpuppet. In fact, it happened to be a very similar case, with Elvin exposing both sockpuppets--a most remarkable coincidence.
No other questions have been raised about anyone else's identities, ChickenGuy. I apologize that my detective work has made you feel uncomfortable, but did you see the Title of The Thread?
It's all directly germane to the discussion.
I admit it. I once used a sock puppet to post here. The profile has probably long since been deleted.
I was ROSE NYLUND.
(The artist formerly known as Andreus was Sophia Petrillo.)
^Judging by your avatar, I thought you were Norma Desmond.
[QUOTE=JohannBessler;8530406]I thought of that possibility, too, Borg.
Someone privately PMed me and told me that there was always considerable doubt that Kahil and Andreus had actually met in person.
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Exactly. I have been here since 2004 and that was my understanding as well - that they never met in person.
I always thought the "death" was hard to believe, especially since it was never explained in detail, and there was no obituary or other corroboration other than the brother's posts.
Many of Andreus' posts strained credulity:
- former prostitute turned devout Muslim
- shot in Iraq
- HIV +
- dying for unclear reasons at very young age.
Without better confirmation, I didn't, and don't, buy any of it.
No don't worry I wasn't uncomfortable or anything like that Johann, and indeed I did my own detective work in my first post a few pages back, it's just that you're going off on a bit of a wild tangent. I'm quite certain neither Stacy or Jasun or 99.9% of other JUBbers are relevant to the topic at hand.
Actually, I didn't give away all my sources. You'd be surprised.
The fact remains, however, that this thread is about sockpuppets, false identities, and how they hurt and betray us. Investigations play a key part in all of that.
Of course, she could be. Who knows?
But nobody seriously thinks she could be any of those people.
However: I do remember who she USED to be. Several well-known people have changed their screen names over the years.
I will say this, I don't think there is anything suspicious at all about Enchanted. He is an obvious newbie, and he leaves a trail as wide as a horse.
When he posts, he is nothing as vague or obfuscating as Dreu was.
Enchanted simply noted a few of us remarking about Dreu and became curious. He yet posts his pics on other parts of the web and is easily traced through them. Dreu was never that transparent nor concrete. Never.
I'm beginning to wonder if we're not two on these forum, and all others posters are all the same !
Guess the men in white will appear soon.
Point of fact, this thread is about Andreus, with the OP asking people to tell him more about the poster. It became a witch hunt thread when someone began pondering the fact that Andreus was simply the product of someone's active imagination. Then it became 15 pages of people conspiracy theorizing about every poster involved in the thread.
It has never been about sockpuppets and fake posters. It turned into that when the accusations began to fly.
By the way why sockpuppets and not simply puppets ?
Making a puppet out of a sock is fast and easy. You just put it on your hand and away you go. No need even for facial features, just alter your "voice" somewhat and you're off.
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I'll bet it is often sock puppets because a) it becomes obvious, and most likely b) because the real poster often engages the sock puppet in staged dialogue.
Plus, sock puppet is easier to type than ventriloquist dummy.
Sockpuppets take no effort. Just pull on a sock and type as someone else. And it can be shortened to sock. Punchy.
Edit: I forgot about haunted1, which I was before my last change back to stacy.
Last edited by stacy; December 3rd, 2012 at 07:32 PM.
- had behavioural problems from an open air head wound
- fell down a flight of stairs
- was convicted of arson
- is now in prison
^ All that from what BostonPirate said in the first page of this thread.
And leaving aside the fact that I've NEVER known in the history of JUB for there to be two brothers on this site, much less two gay ones (unless anyone can correct me on that)
I do wish that BostonPirate would come back in here and answer a few of these legitimate points that people are making. Although to be fair, I can see why he's now avoiding this thread. Whether he's true or false it'd be like the Spanish Inquisition, lol.
Last edited by ChickenGuy; December 3rd, 2012 at 07:46 PM. Reason: Added a few more points
Early on in this thread, I myself was absolutely convinced that Andreus was real. By page 13, I became absolutely convinced of his fakery.
I think Enchanted started the thread because he wanted to know what Andreus was like as a person. Naturally, if somebody had had doubts about Andeus, this quest of Enchanted's would have begged questions.
Invariably, one of the doubters would have said,"But there IS no Andreus".
I see this as only natural.
LOL! Good Lord! I'm suspicious of EVERYONE now.
Inspired - but too tired.
At any rate, when Corny, Bryce, or Mark tells us whether or not anybody but Andreus could have logged in, we'll know for absolute sure.
In my mind, regardless of who Dreu was or is, I marvel at his posts, and care not a whit whether they were fiction or fact. They made coming to JUB a pleasure.
I doubt Bill Holden is Midnight's type, plus any man found floating in Midnight's pool the next morning would surely be naked.
I think the whole sock puppet issue is off-putting. When I come to forums, I want to share with others our real-life experiences. I don't want to read fiction except when I am reading a novel.
how come the mods won't do an ip check on bostonpirate, enchanted and andreus to see if their ips area match? something tells me that all three of them are connected. i'm beginning to think that the guy known as enchanted doesn't exist and might very well be the creation of the same guy andreus. bostonpirate as far as i'm concerned has some explaining to do. him ducking only indicates guilt.
one thing about the closet/you don't have to hurry/it will be bad tomorrow/so brother, don't you worry