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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Actually Andreus last post was in 2007....but kind of a co-inky-dink if his activity was showing 2007 until a week ago....

    http://www.justusboys.com/forum/sear...earchid=327803

    Interesting that for all the praise for his prose, that our vanished Greek demi-god's last utterance on JUB was so prosaic.

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by JohannBessler View Post
    ^I'd wondered that for a second or two, Rareboy.

    Whoever created Andreus had a creative well of genius. Stacy writes. It would take a person with a most remarkable imagination.

    Somehow, though, even though I haven't had the pleasure of knowing Stacy too well, I can't actually see her perpetuating such a fraud.
    I can at least testify that Stacy exists - I've met her and talked to her in the flesh. That of course wouldn't be an argument against her being the puppeteer.

    Perhaps the best argument against the theory is that she used to be (to coin a term) violenty anti-puppet. She used to take great exception to people lying or misrepresenting themselves on the Internet. Now she seems far more prosaic about it. Again, one could argue that this might just be specifically to throw us off the scent, but one would think it would make more sense to keep her "ground character" as static as possible.

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by G-Lexington View Post
    I can at least testify that Stacy exists - I've met her and talked to her in the flesh. That of course wouldn't be an argument against her being the puppeteer.

    Perhaps the best argument against the theory is that she used to be (to coin a term) violenty anti-puppet. She used to take great exception to people lying or misrepresenting themselves on the Internet. Now she seems far more prosaic about it. Again, one could argue that this might just be specifically to throw us off the scent, but one would think it would make more sense to keep her "ground character" as static as possible.

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    ^ Is Andreus the one on the right?

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    lol.

    Because we know that no one had a sense of humour as good as Andreus...I'm sure he's roffling all over heaven.

    BTW. A photo of his Ascension or someone told me....

    Last edited by rareboy; December 3rd, 2012 at 03:25 PM.

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by HoodedRat View Post
    From Andreus' profile.

    Join Date September 17th, 2004
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    "Activity" could just mean that someone went to his Profile and his profile auto signed activity on the page as visitors to the page ??
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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by stacy View Post
    The mystery of "Who in the world is Andreus Thanos?" remains.
    Not to all.

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by g-lexington View Post
    not to all.

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    it was lexington.

    In hot topics.

    With the lead pipe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    it was lexington.

    In hot topics.

    With the lead pipe!
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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by G-Lexington View Post
    I can at least testify that Stacy exists - I've met her and talked to her in the flesh. That of course wouldn't be an argument against her being the puppeteer.

    Perhaps the best argument against the theory is that she used to be (to coin a term) violenty anti-puppet. She used to take great exception to people lying or misrepresenting themselves on the Internet. Now she seems far more prosaic about it. Again, one could argue that this might just be specifically to throw us off the scent, but one would think it would make more sense to keep her "ground character" as static as possible.

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by borg69unimatrix View Post
    "Activity" could just mean that someone went to his Profile and his profile auto signed activity on the page as visitors to the page ??
    Others have said that earlier checks revealed his profile showed the last activity as being 6 years ago.....you have to admit that it does seem a bit "suspect" that this thread is created and now the latest activity shows as being within the last week and a half....

    Even if this thread did spur more people than is normal to go look at his profile, considering his "status" on JUB, no amount of clicks in the last 6 years have been enough to change it? No amount of Mods/Admins being "in there" changed it....??

    6 years. SIX YEARS.

    Hmmmmmm.....

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    It depends on the strength of his password. If was easy to guess, someone else could have accessed his account.


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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    I would love for a moderator to confirm the functionality of the "last activity" feature. Does it require the individual to log in?

    If so, it would represent the first interesting thing here that rises beyond navel-gazing speculation, and it would be highly indicative of the truth.

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Hmmmmmm..... Fascinating.

    The plot thickens!

    It would be nice if a MOD stepped in and gave all the answers and cleared everything up instead of allowing this witch hunt to go on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    I would love for a moderator to confirm the functionality of the "last activity" feature. Does it require the individual to log in?

    If so, it would represent the first interesting thing here that rises beyond navel-gazing speculation, and it would be highly indicative of the truth.
    As soon as I saw that the activity date had changed I raised the question at Mod Towers. Until a tech person answers, I'm as bewildered as anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quasar View Post
    As soon as I saw that the activity date had changed I raised the question at Mod Towers. Until a tech person answers, I'm as bewildered as anyone.
    There's no way of tracing where the IP came from that logged in ??
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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by star-warrior View Post
    It depends on the strength of his password. If was easy to guess, someone else could have accessed his account.
    So someone hacked into his account, and...then left? I'm trying to picture somebody breaking into my house just to turn around and leave.



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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by JohannBessler View Post
    ^The research I did conclusively showed that "Andreus Thanos", at the very least, was a pseudonym.
    No kidding! I'm beginning to suspect that "quasar" and "borg69unimatrix" might be pseudonyms too, Mr. Bessler.


    Because, to take another example, even when people use a screen name like "soilwork" they are 100% likely to tell you their real name because everyone is just as open as Jasun. If they don't then obviously fake.

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    No kidding! I'm beginning to suspect that "quasar" and "borg69unimatrix" might be pseudonyms too, Mr. Bessler.


    Because, to take another example, even when people use a screen name like "soilwork" they are 100% likely to tell you their real name because everyone is just as open as Jasun. If they don't then obviously fake.
    Quasar and borg68unimatrix didn't have a poster vouching to know them personally offline validate that those are their real life names.

    We went through all of this in the thread.

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by JohannBessler View Post
    Ah, Quasar, you're being too nice.

    The ugly truth is that "Andreus" logged in, either as a ghost or as a sockpuppet.

    Or that someone who knew the password (ie someone who was familiar with him and heard he was being talked about lately) or hacked it logged on it ...

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by quasar View Post
    As soon as I saw that the activity date had changed I raised the question at Mod Towers. Until a tech person answers, I'm as bewildered as anyone.
    I'd love to find out it does represent a log-in because that would mean that tallguy297 is still lurking about. He seemed like a decent sort and stopped posting before his time.

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    Because, to take another example, even when people use a screen name like "soilwork" they are 100% likely to tell you their real name because everyone is just as open as Jasun. If they don't then obviously fake.
    Would you like to discover where in my 30,000 posts I revealed my real name? QED Lex = sock puppet. I wonder whose hand is up my ass. I hope he's cute at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by stacy View Post
    ^I've had at least 3 vouch for me and yet I am still being considered as one of the Andreus's.
    No, we're considering Andreus to be one of YOURS. Not the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stacy View Post
    ^I've had at least 3 vouch for me and yet I am still being considered as one of the Andreus's.
    I don't think anyone meant it seriously-- however if you gave your 'real life name' and we could find absolutely no record of you ever existing in the country, yeah, I'd be suspicious of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    Quasar and borg68unimatrix didn't have a poster vouching to know them personally offline validate that those are their real life names.

    We went through all of this in the thread.
    They did? I missed that. Who, and where? I've never met anyone from JUB in real life that I'm aware of at the moment... But there are a few here who I have told/shown a lot of info to.
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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by borg69unimatrix View Post
    They did? I missed that. Who, and where? I've never met anyone from JUB in real life that I'm aware of at the moment... But there are a few here who I have told/shown a lot of info to.
    Oh no no, he brought those names up randomly and said "I doubt those are their real names", in reference to Johann not being able to verify that anyone named Andreus Thanos actually existed.

    The difference is, Boston Pirate apparently confirmed that he knew Andreus offline, was his teacher and his landlord. And verified his identity. So if he verified his real-life name and that real-life name appears to have never existed in the United States, ... that's where the thread is at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stacy View Post
    Lex-
    Sorry, my grammar was mixed up.

    Other names I post(ed) under are Elvin, Jasun/Soilwork, Rrralph and RationalLunacy. Anyone popular and/or polarizing is me.

    Buzzer-
    My full name is on the site somewhere, and my real first name is my username I am posting under today. I know that most are not truly serious that I am the puppeteer behind Andreus but with the way this thread has been going I would not put it past at least one or two people who considered it momentarily.

    Even I kept coming in to deny my involvement and erased every post because all my excuses were flimsy and could not be proven.
    It's cool I've been accused of being Giancarlo like 3 times but I could give a hoot because any admin who can look at IP's could confirm that only this account logs in from only this IP.

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by JohannBessler View Post
    If I knew Jasun's last name, I could find him in 15 minutes flat.
    I didn't know Jasun's last name and I found him in three minutes. He's hardly difficult to track down.

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by stacy View Post
    Jasun is a bad example because he wants you guys know him in real life. His career depends on it.
    But the converse of that is that sometimes real people don't want you to know their names in real life. They either remain anonymously behind their username, or they use a pseudonym if pressed. That does not make them a fake or a sock puppet.

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    ^^^

    How do we know Kahil isn't another sock puppet, like Andreus and his brother supposedly was? I mean, if you're accusing Adreaus and his brother, and BostonPirate as well because he 'knew' Andreus, it just makes sense the BF would be fake too... right???
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    Quote Originally Posted by borg69unimatrix View Post
    ^^^

    How do we know Kahil isn't another sock puppet, like Andreus and his brother supposedly was? I mean, if you're accusing Adreaus and his brother, and BostonPirate as well because he 'knew' Andreus, it just makes sense the BF would be fake too... right???
    Do you n ot find it odd at all that we're talking about Andreus and his account suddenly logs in for the first time since 2006?

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by thatgirl View Post
    This thread...

    I know, page after page....



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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    Do you n ot find it odd at all that we're talking about Andreus and his account suddenly logs in for the first time since 2006?
    I find it more odd that Quasar has no explanation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohannBessler View Post
    ^Does he have ties (property, for example, or relatives) in Denver?
    You're the Google-I-Can-Find-Anyone-Anywhere-Anytime- Expert... why are you asking HER ??
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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Creepy.

    I mean, faking one's own death, and then to 're-appear' years later OVER THE INTERNET seems just a little extreme... even John Darwin just rolled his eyes.

    I think someone is playing you all for a fool.
    Last edited by TheLyingGame; December 3rd, 2012 at 06:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by borg69unimatrix View Post
    I find it more odd that Quasar has no explanation.
    Without the right permissions to access the database, you really can't get that information, even as a mod. It requires higher level clearance.

    If I recall correctly, stacy used to have her own board, so she can also vouch for this, whilst we're in the business of vouching for stuff
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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by JohannBessler View Post
    lol you reached the same conclusion, probably using a completely different path.

    If this is the same Jasun, he has a pad in Denver. You've probably had him, you devil.
    No, he doesn't have a pad in Denver (so far as I know). To the best of my knowledge, he's only been to Denver briefly for a conference. Either you're tracking a different JUBber, or you're on the wrong path. Or, I guess, you've stumbled across a rather bizarre piece of info about him.

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Since we're all pointing fingers... the ONE person who I would think would be Andreus would be SLOPPYSECONDS !!!

    Dun dun DUNNN !!!!!

    C'mon... 15 pages, and HE is about the only person who hasn't commented here? Seriously?

    The perfect disguise would be to pose as the "Village Idiot" out in the open, all the while lurking in the Shadows.

    He's not fooling me... he can spell the big words, and not the little ones?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLyingGame View Post
    Creepy.

    I mean, faking one's own death, and then to 're-appear' years later OVER THE INTERNET seems just a little extreme... even John Darwin just rolled his eyes.

    I think someone is playing you all for a fool.
    I think you don't know enough about the net if you don't know this hasn't been done ad nauseum all over the net since IRC days.

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Star Trek TNG. Season 4.

    Episode: The Drumhead

    I remember that one!



    And yes, JohannBessler is now getting a bit carried away with all of this and is accusing JUBbers left right and centre and imagining grand conspiracies in his head with no doubt hundreds of fake JUBbers.

    The fact that Stacy has been in person to a JUB meet, and that Jasun is as real a person as you can possibly get (YouTube, his own website, his credit on porn vids) doesn't seem to matter.

    He's like the JUB version of McCarthy.

    (no doubt I'll be next in line for investigating now)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChickenGuy View Post
    (no doubt I'll be next in line for investigating now)


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    Quote Originally Posted by ChickenGuy View Post
    Star Trek TNG. Season 4.

    Episode: The Drumhead

    I remember that one!



    And yes, JohannBessler is now getting a bit carried away with all of this and is accusing JUBbers left right and centre and imagining grand conspiracies in his head with no doubt hundreds of fake JUBbers.

    The fact that Stacy has been in person to a JUB meet, and that Jasun is as real a person as you can possibly get (YouTube, his own website, his credit on porn vids) doesn't seem to matter.

    He's like the JUB version of McCarthy.

    (no doubt I'll be next in line for investigating now)
    People here are imagining that anyone has made any serious accusation that Stacy is fake. If I recall it only came up as a "sure I wondered if you were real once but.."

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohannBessler View Post
    @Stacy:

    That being said, I now know 1) Jasun's full name 2) his place of domicile 3) his likely relatives. And I found this information in less than five minutes.

    Ladies and gentlemen, don't underestimate the power of good detective work.
    Are you aware that now, me, and probably other people too, are afraid of you???
    And I don't have anything to hide!! Imagine if I did!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stacy View Post
    There were two things in question: whether or not I was fake and whether or not I was pulling the strings. The fact that I am a real person who can be researched on Google does not prove that I did not post as the user known as Andreus for a period of time.
    I don't understand, are you volunteering suspicion for yourself?

    Johann said he DIDN'T think you did such a thing...

    yet everyone's acting like OMG WHO'S NEXT! ACCUSATIONS FLY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbuzzerx View Post
    I think you don't know enough about the net if you don't know this hasn't been done ad nauseum all over the net since IRC days.


    Thanks, but i'm not that stupid.

    I meant you would have to be seriously deranged to keep it going for this long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaughOutLoud View Post
    I'm not sure if I'm the first to notice this, seeing as I read this entire thread in one sitting, I can't remember every single detail, but....

    Andreus' profile is showing his last activity as being 26th November this year...??

    Real or not, dead or not, someone's been logged into that account, and it seems timed perfectly with this thread becoming such a 'Hot Topic'.

    GOOD CATCH, LaughOutLoud!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bankside View Post
    I would love for a moderator to confirm the functionality of the "last activity" feature. Does it require the individual to log in?

    If so, it would represent the first interesting thing here that rises beyond navel-gazing speculation, and it would be highly indicative of the truth.
    I'm almost certain that an individual needs to log in, to show activity in a user account, and I'm not a Mod. What Quasar has asked about, I think, is whether a Mod actually has the power to override the password of a user account, in any way, to access an account. I have my doubts about that, otherwise vBulletin would have the reputation of being NOT secure. On the other hand, I guess there are tweaks and options available.

    Corny? He would know, surely.

    Somebody else asked the IP question...I've logged into JUB from various IP's because I do a lot of traveling and am often far from my home IP. (I don't have, nor have ever had, any desire to post under anything besides my primary - and only - username here...or elsewhere on the internet.)

    I'm trying to think of a scenario that could be "real" that would explain all this, but I can't think of one.

    I don't think that anybody here, even anybody with the most robust imagination possible, could have foreseen how much activity this thread would get. This is the type of thread which usually falls below Page 3 within a couple of days.
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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by stacy View Post
    ^I am pointing out the many facets of what is going on in this thread.
    Stacy I believe there's a pretty stark difference between "for all I know offline you have a different hair color than you said you did" and you stating, with confirmation from someone else claiming to know you, that you live on Vicker Street in Miami and we find out that no such street exists anywhere in Miami.

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    I admit it. I once used a sock puppet to post here. The profile has probably long since been deleted.

    I was ROSE NYLUND.
    (The artist formerly known as Andreus was Sophia Petrillo.)


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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    Quote Originally Posted by JohannBessler View Post
    I apologize that my detective work has made you feel uncomfortable, but did you see the Title of The Thread?

    It's all directly germane to the discussion.
    If that was about my comment I was just kidding, really, I'm finding all this very amusing, and I have to take you my hat Mr. johann, I'm quite sure few would do better... (well, in the start, not now, you already gave your secret tools away lol).

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    Re: Tell me more about Andreus

    [QUOTE=JohannBessler;8530406]I thought of that possibility, too, Borg.

    Someone privately PMed me and told me that there was always considerable doubt that Kahil and Andreus had actually met in person.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Exactly. I have been here since 2004 and that was my understanding as well - that they never met in person.

    I always thought the "death" was hard to believe, especially since it was never explained in detail, and there was no obituary or other corroboration other than the brother's posts.

    Many of Andreus' posts strained credulity:

    - former prostitute turned devout Muslim
    - shot in Iraq
    - HIV +
    - dying for unclear reasons at very young age.

    Without better confirmation, I didn't, and don't, buy any of it.

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