Tell me more about Andreus

[mikey3000]

I've come to two conclusions..

One very suspect person has left the building and another refuses to stop stirring the pot.

Very interesting indeed.

[Kahaih]

. . . .
After all of the suppositions, assumptions, inferences, musings, and "claims", I STILL don't KNOW if Dreu was "Real" or not!

Butt, does that Really matter?

. . . .

At the very least, it is odd that this site is willing to maintain online cemetery plots with no bodies/no proof that a real person actually died, yet omits the very real and well-documented Tyler Clementi.

It’s disgraceful, actually. Might as well have a plot in there for Dobby.

[bankside]

This thread is thoroughly entertaining and amusing. Thanos wasn't his true last name. I was told in private that it was his middle name and his last name was something different.

Another internet lie?

pfff.…if your last name is really even "prism." FAAAAAAAAKE!!!!!

[mikey3000]

It really is a mental illness...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BC...en_by_Internet

[justaguy]

another suspect person refuses to stop stirring the pot.

Well ... if that is meant for me, then I can see how you can reach that conclusion because I've been a bit of a jerk in this thread. In 10,000 posts this is the most controversial I have ever been here. Usually I just make the odd silly comment here and there without really adding anything of significance to the discussion. Perhaps it should have stayed that way.

[sixthson]

I never knew what his last name supposedly was. The first I heard of Thanos was from BostonPirate. MidnightPrism has offered an explanation of why BP may have honestly thought that was Dreu's last name. He seemed to be quite cautious of being identified with his dad, and the family business. And, given his many nefarious activities, who could blame him?

Chaz

You are overlooking some things, Ky. Boston Pilate also said Andreus was first his student, then his colleague and ultimately a tenant in a property he claimed to own. Don't you think a teacher, colleague and landlord, not to mention a friend in real life would know his name?

[zoltanspawn]

On another forum which had a membership measuring in only the hundreds, I became close to a man whose death was imminent. I enjoyed personal, face-time relationships with some of the forum members, and a few of us hoped to do whatever we could on behalf of our terminal friend: money, time, travel, compassion, etc. We cared (and even now, I do care) about this individual.

It's hard for me to explain my sense of stupendous idiocy, humiliation, betrayal and devastation when it turned out that my friend had been deceiving us about his health. I had spent tears--I had wept--on his behalf only to find out they were suckered.

I have no personal interest in Andreus, except that I enjoyed his posts.

On the other hand, I think such a deceit would be viscerally damaging.

I hope there's no truth to it because of the very real hurt such a betrayal could cause.

[refujiunderground]

You are overlooking some things, Ky. Boston Pilate also said Andreus was first his student, then his colleague and ultimately a tenant in a property he claimed to own. Don't you think a teacher, colleague and landlord, not to mention a friend in real life would know his name?

you're on to something. bostonpirate has some explaining to do. if you ask me, he's the prime suspect.

if he knows who he is, he should be able to explain instead of playing games.

[mikey3000]

Where is the puppetmaster?

[borg69unimatrix]

This thread just keeps getting uglier and uglier.

[bankside]

This thread just keeps getting uglier and uglier.

[frankfrank]

At the very least, it is odd that this site is willing to maintain online cemetery plots with no bodies/no proof that a real person actually died, yet omits the very real and well-documented Tyler Clementi.

It’s disgraceful, actually. Might as well have a plot in there for Dobby.

As I recall, the ENTIRE Garden of Memories got lost when JUB was upgraded. I'm rather surprised that nobody has been able to find Tyler's thread, though, and move it...presumably it should still be in the archives. I don't remember his username, and I can't remember any *UNCOMMON/RARE* key word that would have been in that thread. (If it was a thread about pumpernickel bread instead, it would be very easy to find.) I already tried finding it once, so I could send the link to a Mod and suggest the thread be moved to GoM, but I had no success.

pfff.…if your last name is really even "prism." FAAAAAAAAKE!!!!!

And his first name is Midnight. That is obviously a cat.

When in doubt, ALWAYS blame it on the cat.

You are overlooking some things, Ky. Boston Pilate also said Andreus was first his student, then his colleague and ultimately a tenant in a property he claimed to own. Don't you think a teacher, colleague and landlord, not to mention a friend in real life would know his name?

Could it be that Andreus was paranoid enough, that he worked with a fake ID? All he had to do was to change a couple letters in his real last name, and he probably had the resources to get a fake ID, and he may have been living much of his life under an alias.

In other words, he could *still* be real, and the untraceability of his name wouldn't mean anything.

[xbuzzerx]

Could it be that Andreus was paranoid enough, that he worked with a fake ID? All he had to do was to change a couple letters in his real last name, and he probably had the resources to get a fake ID, and he may have been living much of his life under an alias.

In other words, he could *still* be real, and the untraceability of his name wouldn't mean anything.

Sure, it's possible. It's possible he was CIA, it's possible he was Interpol, it's possible he was Greek intelligence, it's possible he faked his death before coming here and assumed an all new name, it's possible he lied about his name.

It's just imho a very fair/reasonable thing to say that the more complicated you need to get in order to keep the persona he presented consistent, the less likely it's genuine.

[sixthson]

Frank, weirder things have happened, I guess, but since he was employed here, went to school here and had health care here he would have needed a social security number and to have paid income taxes and FICA. That would almost require assuming someone else's identity, wouldn't it?

[backagain]

Sure, it's possible. It's possible he was CIA, it's possible he was Interpol, it's possible he was Greek intelligence, it's possible he faked his death before coming here and assumed an all new name, it's possible he lied about his name.

It's just imho a very fair/reasonable thing to say that the more complicated you need to get in order to keep the persona he presented consistent, the less likely it's genuine.

Yup, why did this thread even get started?
I know how it was started, but it goes onto 10 pages!
It's like a race thread, goes on and on and on.

[Kahaih]

. . . .
As I recall, the ENTIRE Garden of Memories got lost when JUB was upgraded. I'm rather surprised that nobody has been able to find Tyler's thread, though, and move it...presumably it should still be in the archives.

. . . .

There has never been a memorial thread for Tyler Clementi.

The only Tyler Clementi thread that ever appeared in the Garden of Memories was a locked down fucking crime scene - a disgusting presentation of JUB on its own.

Not that I would want to see that back up, but if JUB’s lawyers don’t have a copy of that on file then they’re not worth cold piss. I’m sure the FBI kept a copy of it.

[Harke the Boeotarch]

Yup, why did this thread even get started?
I know how it was started, but it goes onto 10 pages!
It's like a race thread, goes on and on and on.

I'm kind of shocked.

When I first arrived here, Andreus seemed the most popular member of JUB (together with Soilwork).

[Pianist]

I'm kind of shocked.

When I first arrived here, Andreus seemed the most popular member of JUB (together with Soilwork).

Foolishness. EVERYone knows I was the most popular.

[ozguy]

Foolishness. EVERYone knows I was the most popular.

At last! Something worth reading amongst all this crap ..... YAY!!!! Hi Ger!!!!

[JohannBessler]

Can I ask a question?

Who in this thread is real?

Have any of you shared real and true information out in the open on this board?



Andreus Thanos did not cause anyone any harm. We might have egg on our faces for believing an elaborate story, but can anyone in this thread tell me how a fake internet poster caused your life harm?

Yes.

........

I have to agree with Tombastep, Stacy.

I can find no other place on the Internet besides JUB where people tell the truth as much as they do.
For example, you will find JUBbers who admit that 1) they feel ugly 2)they feel obese 3) they suffer from mental illness, or 4) they suffer from SPS.

I myself admit to my flaws, and endeavor to work on them. If I have lied on this board, I can't remember it. I really am a 50 year-old man who has no hair, struggles with mild depression, acts eccentric, and wears a monocle.

I believe the "truthtellers" outnumber the phonies by far.

[JohannBessler]

What do you mean?

Tombastep, I have gotten burnt badly already twice. Once with "outsider", and now with "Andreus", both of whom adopted fake identities and posted fake pictures.

It tends to breed distrust about the Internet in general, and now maybe you can see why I won't post my own pictures online.

[JohannBessler]

This is a side-topic to the thread, JB, but I went to peoplefinders and I didn't see anything about paying, other than either a pay-per-use thing, or a short-term (monthly) cost which I haven't been able to justify. If there was some such people-search website which gave an annual or lifetime membership, I'd consider joining it (if it's verified to be the "real deal" and a good source).





If anything, seeing that Andreus very likely was perhaps the most elaborate sock puppet in JUB history, makes me (if anything) ALL THE MORE curious about the *real* person behind the posts. (If that person happens to be reading this, and you tell me it was you, Sloppy Seconds, I won't tell...any secret will go to the grave with me.)

I remember him, he lifted pictures "of him" from a European model's website or something. I actually interacted with him a little bit after he was busted. I've always hoped that my interaction with him gave at least a bit of solace to a person who obviously was plagued with a troubled soul (and even that choice of username was sort of a signal of that).

Frank, three points to address:

Point 1: Peoplefinders dot com doesn't charge you anything to find out the city in which a person lives, or his age. You have to pay, though, to get the telephone number and address.

I have used it very many times over the years, and I have drawn up a blank only once (for a real person, that is.)

Professional private detectives prefer LexusNexus dot com, however, because they see it as the most accurate one. However, you have to pay for everything there.

Point 2: I agree. While I feel hurt, disappointed, and dismayed to learn of Andreus's fakery, I now feel pretty amazed at the complexity of the character that the puppeteer drew up for us. I believe that it shows a man with a most remarkable imagination--a creative genius.

Point 3:Somebody mentioned the pictures. The pictures I saw look very much like the pictures of that Juan-guy--the actor in Mexico, The man in the second picture, in particular, looks exactly like the same man I saw in the pictures "Andreus" sent me.

I have no doubt now that, at the very least, "Andreus" told us a pack of lies.

[JohannBessler]

It really is a mental illness...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BC...en_by_Internet

Wow.

Munchausen by Internet describes the events that have taken place perfectly. Just wow.

[kallipolis]

Just a little useless trivia to pass the time - it is Saint Andrew's (Andreas) day, today 30th November in the calendar of the Greek Orthodox Church.

[illgetbi]

[kallipolis]

You are overlooking some things, Ky. Boston Pilate also said Andreus was first his student, then his colleague and ultimately a tenant in a property he claimed to own. Don't you think a teacher, colleague and landlord, not to mention a friend in real life would know his name?

Too true......despite which, shadow man continues with his elaborate games attempting to entertain we mere peasants.

[Corny]

This thread is thoroughly entertaining and amusing. Thanos wasn't his true last name. I was told in private that it was his middle name and his last name was something different.

Another internet lie?

Interesting though that Mitri then used his brother's middle name as his family name

Wish you could tell us what it was, if only for something concrete at last, unless revealing it you would deem as unethical. His degree of error would be helpful in attempting to reach a conclusion.

The degree of error would be, that at this point, he for sure wasn't where he claimed he was. And given his technical wrong explanation, probably never.

[JohannBessler]

^Someone gave me his other "real" last name.

For the record, I ran the "real" name through all the databases, too. I came up with a complete blank. No other name even came close.

I have no choice to conclude with finality that the identity of Andreus Thanos came from someone's vivid imagination, and has never existed in reality.

[rareboy]

Frank, three points to address:

Point 1: Peoplefinders dot com doesn't charge you anything to find out the city in which a person lives, or his age. You have to pay, though, to get the telephone number and address.

I have used it very many times over the years, and I have drawn up a blank only once (for a real person, that is.)

Professional private detectives prefer LexusNexus dot com, however, because they see it as the most accurate one. However, you have to pay for everything there.

Point 2: I agree. While I feel hurt, disappointed, and dismayed to learn of Andreus's fakery, I now feel pretty amazed at the complexity of the character that the puppeteer drew up for us. I believe that it shows a man with a most remarkable imagination--a creative genius.

Point 3:Somebody mentioned the pictures. The pictures I saw look very much like the pictures of that Juan-guy--the actor in Mexico, The man in the second picture, in particular, looks exactly like the same man I saw in the pictures "Andreus" sent me.

I have no doubt now that, at the very least, "Andreus" told us a pack of lies.

This is actually quite surprising.

Did no one keep a pic of Andreus that he sent them?

Reverse pic search would categorically prove at least whether he lied about his pics.

[HunterM]

This is the real Andreus


A phone sex operator

[BiMike]

^ That is very close to the truth and he was very good at the job! He lead many Jubbers a great dance over a very long period, I always had my doubts some of his activities did not ring true. In respect of pics sent over the internet they mean nothing even if sent on a personal basis.

[bankside]

Interesting though that Mitri then used his brother's middle name as his family name



The degree of error would be, that at this point, he for sure wasn't where he claimed he was. And given his technical wrong explanation, probably never.

Just out of interest's sake, where do you think he claimed he was?

Because a whole bunch of people were certain he was claiming to be the man in a blog photo of some juan martin berberian, but he never claimed that was a picture of himself, and posted a different self-pic on here. Berberian was just some guy he thought was hot.

You are overlooking some things, Ky. Boston Pilate also said Andreus was first his student, then his colleague and ultimately a tenant in a property he claimed to own. Don't you think a teacher, colleague and landlord, not to mention a friend in real life would know his name?

I'd rather see BP speak to this point but I wonder if a teacher would think it is ethical to confirm a student's name in this venue, particularly in this thread, just for the edifying feeling of saying "i told you so."

[Harke the Boeotarch]

Just a little useless trivia to pass the time - it is Saint Andrew's (Andreas) day, today 30th November in the calendar of the Greek Orthodox Church.

It seems to me that the person discussed in this thread deserves to be tied to one of the associated crosses.

[palbert]

I don't see why all the confusion:

Wikipedia:

Andreus (Ancient Greek: Ἀνδρεύς) was the son of the river-god Peneus in Thessaly, from whom the district about Orchomenos in Boeotia was called Andreis.[1] In another passage Pausanias speaks of Andreus (it is, however, uncertain whether he means the same man as the former) as the person who first colonized the island of Andros.[2] According to Diodorus Siculus, Andreus was one of the generals of Rhadamanthys, from whom he received the island afterwards called Andros as a present.[3] Stephanus of Byzantium[4], Conon[5] and Ovid[6] call this first colonizer Andrus (son of Anius) and not Andreus.[7] With Evippe, daughter of Leucon, Andreus had a son Eteocles, his successor.[8]

[bankside]

It seems to me that the person discussed in this thread deserves to be tied to one of the associated crosses.

I think we've yet to find out if he deserves it though certainly we have a lot of Romans in the room.

[kallipolis]

It seems to me that the person discussed in this thread deserves to be tied to one of the associated crosses.

You mean the multifaceted object of our curiosity whose memory on this board has been regurgitated by a new poster - now a guest - named Enchanted whose purpose in inviting our contributions could well also confirm that Andreus is alive and well with a continuing need to feed his ego driven sense of superior intelligence?

I would much prefer to entertain Andreus to dinner, as my guest in order to enjoy his mind boggling personality and understand how his mind functions.

[G-Lexington]

Oh, Waffles. What kind of mischief have you caused now?

Lex

[HunterM]

You mean the multifaceted object of our curiosity whose memory on this board has been regurgitated by a new poster - now a guest - named Enchanted whose purpose in inviting our contributions could well also confirm that Andreus is alive and well with a continuing need to feed his ego driven sense of superior intelligence?

^ Yo, good news! Enchanted has been reincarnated as Sex Kitten. And that's no lie.

[illgetbi]

So here's my two cents on all this:

If Andreus' existence/death was indeed a fraud, as angry as the situation may make us, at least there's a possibility we may get answers. And if we do, no matter how we feel about the perpetrator's explanation, at least we'll have had the opportunity to ask. We'll know.

I have questions I would like to ask my good friend Larry (SilverSurfer), who I used to talk to almost every day. Why did he suddenly go silent and not tell me what was happening?

I have questions I would like to ask Tyler Clementi (cit2mo), who I didn't know, but after a year and a half of forum silence posted in one of my threads (though no others). What was he looking for in that moment, just weeks before the fateful webcam incident occurred?

Was there something I could have done, Larry? Was there something I could have done, Tyler?

Those questions will haunt me for the rest of my life.

Because Larry and Tyler were real. And they are dead. Truly and certainly.

In a strange way, it'd be a relief to find out they were merely characters, their deaths staged.

At least it'd finally stop hurting.

[Sex Kitten]

You mean the multifaceted object of our curiosity whose memory on this board has been regurgitated by a new poster - now a guest - named Enchanted whose purpose in inviting our contributions could well also confirm that Andreus is alive and well with a continuing need to feed his ego driven sense of superior intelligence?

I would much prefer to entertain Andreus to dinner, as my guest in order to enjoy his mind boggling personality and understand how his mind functions.

Maybe...I'm Drew's reincarnation

[kallipolis]

Maybe...I'm Drew's reincarnation

It would be my pleasure to entertain you to a dinner with the added prospect of ending our evening at a piano bar.

I'm heading back to my Greek island tomorrow morning to resume my work so I'll need time to get back to you with a firm date.

[Sex Kitten]

It would be my pleasure to entertain you to a dinner with the added prospect of ending our evening at a piano bar.

I'm heading back to my Greek island tomorrow morning to resume my work so I'll need time to get back to you with a firm date.

Are you hot?

[DigitalFudge]

Can someone sum this thread up, there are about 9 and a half too many pages.


I would also like to know who Andreus is.

[refujiunderground]

Can someone sum this thread up, there are about 9 and a half too many pages.

it's nothing but a bunch of gossip, "who dun it", and "woop, there is it is". this thread just took a 360 back to where it started.

[DigitalFudge]

it's nothing but a bunch of gossip, "who dun it", and "woop, there is it is". this thread just took a 360 back to where it started.

So there's nothing really to see here? I should just dip?

[kallipolis]

Are you hot?

My new gypsy lover says so, especially when I am paying the restaurant bill.

If you are based in Athens, Greece PM me now with your mobile telephone number and we can meet at the exit of Gazi, metro station this evening enabling me to honour my invitation?

[illgetbi]

So there's nothing really to see here? I should just dip?

You're in the wrong thread silly.

[refujiunderground]

So there's nothing really to see here? I should just dip?

well, unless you enjoy these kind of threads, don't see any reason why you would want to stay in it.

[sixthson]

So there's nothing really to see here? I should just dip?

Unless you were here when Andreus and Kahil were here, I don't know why you would be overly interested. There were so many threads and so many posts, we couldn't possible explain what all went on. Some people loved the character of Andreus, some hated him. Most fell in between, I would suspect, which means they didn't care much one way or the other.
With your flair for drama, I suspect you would have enjoyed the theather as it unfolded at the time, however.

[Telstra]

Are you hot?

ummm he is a professor of Greece