Young people of the past are now old(er) people of today
Young people of the past are now old(er) people of today
The difference is that the young of those days had to go outside and do things in order to socialize, and now they don't. Just like farmers of old had to push an actual plow, pulled by a yoke of oxen, while now they just ride a tractor. It's called the Technological Revolution (the natural offspring of the Industrial Revolution).
The past wasn't better than now. Remember that if you remember nothing else.
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Young people of today have been lost to video games.
Young people seem quicker, smarter, and much better at problem-solving than the young folk in my generation. That sad, they also seem more unhappy.
It really depends on family upbringing, values, and discipline. I think young people today are more likely to suffer mental damage if removed from high tech gadgets
When I was a kid, we had do to everything. Today, kids don't have to do anything. Everything does it for them.
Quando omni flunkus, moritati.
I had me a skateboard and the whole city to ride in.
thanks to the guys at hogtown and rudys or they should thank me for all the money I spent there.
Young people of the past were as spoiled, and brats like today. They were more respectfull and not as mouthy like the young'ns of today
You cant change the way the wind blow's, but you can change the angle of your sail to take you somewhere else!!
- Plato, quoting Socrates
speaking as a somewhat older person I think now the young and society as a whole does not have the fundamental mistrust of authority commoner before . 80s joke , " don't trust anyone under 30 " . The police are not your friends . The authorities may be more respectful and polite but they historically would still like to see you and everyone like you in concentration camps or at least prison .
Young people of the past had their pants up higher.
Quando omni flunkus, moritati.
Kids weren't as fearful of everything.
They didn't always start to cry before they got hurt.
They didn't try to negotiate everything.
They were more active.
They had more direct responsibilities and worked earlier.
They engaged in the real world instead of sitting with their eyes glazed over texting someone a minute by minute description of how boring their life is.
They appreciated what they were given more.
And I'm not talking about only when I was young. I'd go back to my father's generation.
And I would disagree that the aim of progress is to free anyone from all physical work, even the 'back-breaking' work that children have complained about doing forever. There is an attitude and aptitude for physical work that is increasingly lost as each generation finds new ways for their precious babies to not have to lift a finger to do anything.
But the one that worries me the most is the profound attention deficit disorder and detachment from real play and real experience by 90% of the children that we know now...replaced by them plugged in, hunched over a screen, living vicariously.
I (DON'T) see young people in my area any more. They are still there, but tend to stay indoors on the computer, X-box, or texting.
It seems that social interaction has shifted from being outside playing sports, etc. socializing face to face has turned into an on-line scene. I mean, even I am here chatting on a forum, though I don't spend much time at it. Now there are so many sedentary activities one can do and still be in touch with friends. Years ago before cell phones and internet, you HAD to get your ass outside to see someone.
It's sad to see, and it's getting worse.
I also think young people are getting dumber. You'd think that all our new technology would make us smarter, but it is exactly the over reliance on that technology to do your thinking for you that makes you dumber. Just pry a smart phone away from a teen these days and see what happens. You no longer need to remember anything.... there's an app for that.
I don't know.... just what I see in my neighborhood I grew up in. The only noise now comes from the Gardeners.
I'm glad I grew up in a time when we all played outside and raided the neighbors pool to go swimming, etc. The only reason
to be indoors was saturday morning cartoons.
I'd agree with manners as well, but it's an adult problem too.
It's not so far from the truth now.
It's sad to see mothers with their attention on their Smartphones instead of on their babies or young children. Family is no longer a priority. Technology has taken it's place.
Quando omni flunkus, moritati.
If you take young people of today who live in 1st world countries and you compare them to their peers who live in developing countries, you will see a difference in discipline and work ethic. You will also see that these young people in developing world are "tougher" emotionally and psychologically just like the young people from the "past."
As mentioned above that kids in the past are more active than the kids today who rely a lot on technology. I remembered that back in school my parents always complained that I sit in front of the PC/ PS and TV too much and almost never go out (unless tuition, school activities etc.) They also try really hard to drag me out of the house. My parents told me that back in their generation they would jump in rivers and go running around in the woods.
We all played for the same football club too, and we were part of a big league that had teams full of kids from all around Melbourne. Oftentimes, we'd all stick around after home games to watch the other divisions play, and we'd organise friendly matches together afterwards. Our little brothers would play in those too, and everybody would go easy on them, occasionally letting them score just to see them smile. It was great to see everybody out there having fun together.
We weren't interested in sitting at home playing video games all day, we wanted to get out there, to be active, and to socialise; not via text or instant messaging, but face-to-face.
... Oops, did I forget to mention that I'm only twenty-two years old? Seriously, y'all need to stop acting like kids these days never get to experience the outside world.
Regarding technology, the internet has provided many with a platform to express their ignorance and stupidity, but it has also given us access to a wealth of information. When ever a particular subject or practice piques my interest, a quick Google search will give me everything I need to satisfy my curiosity. Websites like Reddit are packed with image macros and time-wasting trivialities, but they also expose us to discussions of politics, religion, science, world news, etc.
Honestly, I would argue that I grew up infinitely more informed because of technology than I would have otherwise. Having apps on my smart phone didn't make me less intelligent.
I don't think anyone is knocking technology. Or saying that 'society' is going downhill.
And you raise an important point.
The really smart kids who can think laterally are the ones that know how to do real research and learning using the technology available.
The Google generation is growing up in an era that is just as pivotal in the course of human intellectual development as at the time of the invention of the printing press.
Just having tons more information isn't any use if it has no context or objectives though.
One great difference is that more kids are now thinking more globally today; more of them understand the world is a small planet and that humans can't just keep taking.
And when it comes to racial and societal acceptance, I hope that the young are more tolerant and accepting.
i think that the current younger generation tries to act older than what they really are where they simply aren't embracing their youth. you only get to be young once. why would a guy who's 18 try to act like he's seen it and done it all at his age, talking about how things used to be back in 2002 when he was only 8 is beyond me. act your age. hell, even some of you early 20 somethings are just as bad. i think it's annoying as fuck for someone who's 20 trying to talk down on how people in his age group are spoiled as fuck or how they grew up like the 90s kids, 80s kids, 70s kids did and etc did. you're 20 years old. you don't know how annoying it is when you have a 20 year old trying to talk about how things were back in 1995. you were only 3. your memory process isn't even that good at that age so you're trying too hard.
Haha!! SOOOO TRUE!!
As to my earlier comment on tech making people dumber... Let me put it this way:
Everyone basically has GPS now. If not in your car, then on the phone. Look up an address and off you go. But do you REMEMBER everything? Before all this information became so incredibly available, you actually had to read and retain info in your head.
Look at cab drivers... they have an amazing map in their brain.
Now we just "look it up". Yeah, it's fantastic, but soon you don't have to actually "learn" anything. I think maybe getting dumber is the wrong term, as I don't think we are getting PHYSICALLY dumber, but we are not learning as much any more. We don't NEED to.
And I don't think that's a good thing. We become less and less self reliant.
Mtv.......Re: What's the difference between young people of today and young people of the past?
I think the smart kids of today are smarter and more savvy than the smart kids were 10, 20 or 50 years ago. I'm not so sure that the more "average" (as in not super-smart) kids of today have a higher baseline than the average kids did previously. So, smart is smarter; but modern not-smart is no better than old-skool not-smart. I also think that modern not-smart is lazier and more likely to give up trying earlier than old-skool not-smart.
Someone mentioned entitlement above - I think the modern youth have higher sense of expectation than previously. They expect to be heard and negotiated with, and refuse to accept that sometimes something is simply because someone else says so. I also think they have grown up thinking that everyone else is at fault for what goes wrong, and their problems are all the result of someone else's inadequacy.
Case in point - I share an identical name and surname with a Physics department lecturer at the university I work at. One of the students in the Physics class sent a long, rambling Facebook message (in textspeak no less) to me, telling me how bad my Physics lectures are and how clueless I am and out of touch with their needs as students, and how I should really rethink my whole teaching strategy or otherwise I should think about finding a new career.
1. nobody in my day would have done that. You might have gone to discuss your problems with the lecturer - and this is encouraged at the university - but certainly not facebook or email msg.
2. and CERTAINLY not in textspeak. You're at University now, my dear, not 6th grade. How do you expect to be taken seriously?
I wrote a firm message back to the young lady in question, telling her to pull her socks up and try harder in class. I also suggested she treat her lecturer like an adult, not like a fellow kid in her 6th grade class. Lastly, I told her she herself was at fault, for not paying more attention in class, and she should not blame the lecturer for her own laziness.
Now I can see some of you thinking I have a lot of nerve for making these assumptions. But I'm sure I'm right about her being lazy. My reasoning? Quite simple. My FB page has a picture of me on it, a clear portrait-style picture which shows you exactly who I am - a 30-something year old scruffy white guy, with patchy facial stubble. Her lecturer - all inadequate, and clueless, and out of touch with everything - is a black woman.
The prosecution rests, m'lud.
Yes! I'll generalise and say that 'children were seen but not heard' in the Patriarchy of nineteenth century society. But I feel now we don't have a Matriarchy but an Infantocracy where the needs of children and teenagers take precedence. Culture is swamped by Pop Culture. The gender divide is disappearing.
I remember in my 1st Year at university, thinking how immature high-schoolers were when I ran into them. Then in my 3rd Year, thinking how immature the varsity freshmen were. By the time I got to my Master's, even the incoming Honours (optional 4th Year here in .za, entrance by merit only to excellent 3rd Year applicants) students who were only a year younger than me seemed out of touch and clueless.
I should assume that those a year or two ahead of me thought the same about me.
We're more accepting of differences. ^_^ and we're also more educated. =]
Young people of today are jizzle jammed.
If you compare young people of today with the DISTANT past (like, say, 1870), my guess is that a youth of today, by the time they reach 15 years of age, generally know much more than somebody in the 1800's needed to learn in their entire LIFETIME.
However, some things such as common sense or empathy are generally not taught at school, but at home, or in the very-small-class educational settings which no longer exist.
Last edited by frankfrank; November 20th, 2012 at 01:59 AM.
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