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    Oh for fucks sakes, belamo. We get it. Nobody's as cultured, sensitive and artistic as you.
    Oh, go rub your ashes on bread

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    Dynarod sometimes have cute guys working in what is a shitty job.


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    ^They took pictures at the event. I will receive them in a couple of weeks.

    If they look as good as the single one I saw in a viewfinder, I might share. I might.

    Nishin, the Internet scares me. I might chicken out.
    You could still blur your/people face/s, really just intrigued at the outfit you described and how gentlemanly it would look...

    This said:
    How would pics taken at an event take a couple weeks to be delivered? Do you mean they still use analog?
    The Internet is your friend, it only wants you good

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    Today I learned that I am indeed all that....
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    ^... and then some!

    I learnt nothing today... merely had suspicions confirmed.

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    I learnt that belamo is ignoring me

    I might have to go to spain and spank his ass.




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    Re: What have you learnt today?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohannBessler View Post
    And finally, somebody needs to teach that boy some manners.

    Or is "the teaching of fools folly"?
    Pascal wrote : 'L'homme est si naturellement fou qu'il serait fou, par un autre tour de folie, de l'empêcher d'être fou.'
    Meaning : folly is so in human nature that it's folly to think we can prevent folly in humans.

    Belamo may need a filter to be 'ingested'. There is wealth to gain even if the format can be repulsive for some. Once you have the filter in place, no need to 'ignore' him
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    I learnt that belamo is ignoring me

    I might have to go to spain and spank his ass.
    Am I......

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    I have learned I'm not really as androgenous as David Bowie herself... and putting cheap make up on while bright night clubbing doesn't help.

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    Thanks for that, the link rejuvenated me two seconds

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    ...The moral (#2) of the story is that you, like the grubby mass of self-satisfied commonners, choose to protect their own blessed ignorance than be challenged in their pride.
    Yes. I think that's one of the morals in the story by Jane Austen, 'Pride and Prejudice'.

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    Despite the curiosity with the alimentary canal, Telstra is one class act in real life.


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    I have learned I'm not really as androgenous as David Bowie herself... and putting cheap make up on while bright night clubbing doesn't help.
    Good lord man! You look like you've got first degree burns.


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    I'd forgotten that it only takes one member to heal some of the negative shit of several others. I was reminded of this today... twice. Thanks guys.

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    it's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A. it's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A, yay.

    one thing about the closet/you don't have to hurry/it will be bad tomorrow/so brother, don't you worry

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    The only thing that tastes more vile than a 'beer' Bloody Mary is

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    it's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A. it's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A, yay.

    ^ Quite inadvertantly and by chance, that became my coming out song (very common, I know) three or four days after I came out in 2010, I listened to the full uninterrupted song properly for the first time. Starting from then, I now can't listen to it without it making me cry.

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    Good lord man! You look like you've got first degree burns.
    The hangover is still there, but I managed to get most of the paint off.

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    Am I......
    maybe not but I still want to spank you.




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    maybe not but I still want to spank you.
    Go hire a whore for that, for Fuck's sake...

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    Go hire a whore for that, for Fuck's sake...
    but I want you babe




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    but I want you babe
    If you saw no problem in affording a trip to Spain, and if there still are hot men like Cédric or Bender, or even Renaud or Alain in the Stockbar, you might as well afford a flight to the G Flakes for ME

    In any case, remember: one day I may be here, and the next I may be not

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    I learned that change is life, continuity is death.
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    I learned that change is life, continuity is death.
    But change can not be brought about without continuity, without time... by "continuity" you must mean something like "invariability".

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    But change can not be brought about without continuity, without time... by "continuity" you must mean something like "invariability".
    That's not what I read.

    Try this:

    The only Constant in the Universe is Change.
    They are both clearly opposing paradigms, and for me that's the definition of Life.
    Never regret anything, because in that moment it's exactly what you wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by centexfarmer View Post
    That's not what I read.

    Try this:



    They are both clearly opposing paradigms, and for me that's the definition of Life.
    Both of you seem to take for granted that the sense of continuity is just and ONLY a secondary quality applied to any given state of things, while continuity is, fundamentally, under that sense you seem to consider the essential one, the mere fact of flowing, be it the flow of change or the consideration, in the flow of your own mind, of the static permanence of a certain state of things.

    Nichts ist dauernd, als der Wechsel; nichts beständig, als der Tod. Jeder Schlag des Herzens schlägt uns eine Wunde, und das Leben wäre ein ewiges Verbluten, wenn nicht die Dichtkunst wäre. Sie gewährt uns, was uns die Natur versagt: eine goldene Zeit, die nicht rostet, einen Frühling, der nicht abblüht, wolkenloses Glück und ewige Jugend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohannBessler View Post
    Proverbs 16: 22
    “You can’t discuss the ocean with a well frog; he is confined to the limits of his hole. You can’t discuss ice with a summer insect—he’s bound to a single season. You can’t discuss the Tao with a cramped scholar of limited views—he’s shackled by his doctrines.” Zhuangzi: Qiushui.



    井蛙不可以語於海者,拘於虛也;夏蟲不可以語於冰者,篤於時也;曲士不可以語於道者,束於教也。莊子《秋水 》

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohannBessler View Post
    @Johan:

    I won't deny for one moment that Belamo possesses a sharp intellect. In fact, I see him the second most intelligent person on JUB.

    But he acts rude, mean, and nasty pretty much all the time. Most of the time, his nastiness really isn't called for. In the previous example, I didn't get so upset by his attack on my character as much as I got upset by his characterization of Americans. That upset me very badly.

    A man with his intellect should realize that fashion sense is completely subjective. I personally see Europe as having both the best of fashion, and the absolute worst of fashion at the same time. Have you ever heard that term "Euro-trash" fashion?

    You'll see perfectly straight men in Europe wearing purple paisley shirts with orange striped trousers that attack the senses and jar the sensibilities. In fact, we on JUB once had a thread called "Quiz: Gay or Euro-trash?"

    Dolly Parton once guest-starred on Graham Norton's show. She quipped in her sweet way,"Gordon, I like your pants. They look like my grandmother's couch."

    You must understand that I do not want to turn this thread from "belamo's bash Americans" thread to "JohannBessler's bash Europeans" thread. I don't intend that at all.

    I merely strongly contend that a man of belamo's intelligence should have seen the very real truth that fashion is subjective.

    That person should understand what I keep repeating so many times on different tastes on different subjects, like men, etc.: what I attack is never the particular taste, and that is something I am EXPLICIT about with words, like when I say that you can wear whatever you want and it is all the same because, like that person himself allows, "fashion is subjective"...

    what prompts my attacks are posts of the sort of Bess', treating people like beggars for, allegedly, not dressing like "royalty", like the royalty he can represent when he attends some Gotha gathering. He works on his conviction concerining certain assumptions which he does not express as being merely "subjective", but as some true standard of superiority.

    The problem with people like Bess is that they do not seem have a real sense of anything, in fashion like the rest, but just grab on labels and received opinions and prejudices and stick to them with a sense odf superiority which, being prevalent, not needing to fight its way because, no matter how hurtful, it already has its place even on the mind of people who do not agree with them, gives them a twofold sense of security: first, that they do not need to learn anything, at least not anything they consider important (which is just a milder, sneaky way of actually saying that there is nothing they need to be taught anymore) and, most importantly, that what they hold as an opinion is not just an opinion, but THE truth (no matter how sneaky and falsly humble they pretend to deny it) and, therefore, that they PERSONALLY hold a morally superior stance by virtue of that truth stuck to whatever they have left for brains after all that hardening.

    And just like people who get so wrought up that they forget how they started quarreling, people reading me forget how all that alleged gratuituous trashing against the American in general was not such, but was a trashing against the prepotence of certain Americans, whose attitude is rejected even by those who only look at the one attacking an American, and not why is he doing so.
    No wonder, then, that it is so easy to dupe people when the subject involves politics and international conflicts, when people get so easily misled under the strain of joining up to sentences discussing FACTS and IDEAS, and not reducing the discussion to a mere useless and disjointed quarrel about the association of the disputants FOR or AGAINST either of two given sides.

    In his last posts, Bess is a perfect example to that reduction to a plain good or bad individuals according to two sides: first he quotes a maxim which substance is reduced to "the other people are foolish", and that serves to maintain his peace of mind without going under the strain of what exactly is accounted for under "foolish", which is nothing substantial in itself but a mere feeling of rejection that can be applied to one thing and its opposite without incurring in any contradiction, because they are not dealing with actual thoughts or sense, just mere "spasms" of the mind.
    Then, he quotes another post which point is not so much to discuss anything, but express that same rejection that he considers of interest in supporting him, without further mental strain in any discussion about what he is feeling is fair or not: he is only interested in feeling his position to be perfectly justified... but the mere fact that he is STILL caring about this whole discussion, when he is childishly ignoring me directly, is that he is still addressing to me through others but, again, in the most comfortable way of reducing it all to I am bad, not because of what I actually say, but because of how I make some people feel, by misunderstanding or not and, most importantly, how I make HIM feel.

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    Ok, that post above will be as useless as I commented in the post itself about discussions in general, unless I sum it up as this: what I have been trashing is an American STANDARD of taste, a standard being, for those who can get easily misled, something that is put above and stands the rest no matter what and no matter WHY.
    If you can not tell the difference about trashing something which happens, secondarily, being associated with America, and you consider that attacking anything related to America, even John Wayne Gacy, is trashing America herself, I wish you a happy life in Lalaland, and Cod protects the rest of the world round you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    Both of you seem to take for granted that the sense of continuity is just and ONLY a secondary quality applied to any given state of things, while continuity is, fundamentally, under that sense you seem to consider the essential one, the mere fact of flowing, be it the flow of change or the consideration, in the flow of your own mind, of the static permanence of a certain state of things.

    Nichts ist dauernd, als der Wechsel; nichts beständig, als der Tod. Jeder Schlag des Herzens schlägt uns eine Wunde, und das Leben wäre ein ewiges Verbluten, wenn nicht die Dichtkunst wäre. Sie gewährt uns, was uns die Natur versagt: eine goldene Zeit, die nicht rostet, einen Frühling, der nicht abblüht, wolkenloses Glück und ewige Jugend.

    See, I can quote too
    For me, death is the only thing that doesn't change. Trying to continue things is thus only leading to death. To live, we must change.

    Without quoting anyone
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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    “You can’t discuss the ocean with a well frog; he is confined to the limits of his hole. You can’t discuss ice with a summer insect—he’s bound to a single season. You can’t discuss the Tao with a cramped scholar of limited views—he’s shackled by his doctrines.” Zhuangzi: Qiushui.



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    Can't agree with you. JB is human, and human can learn, whatever their intelligent or knowledge, all human can teach and be teached. It's only sloth that can prevent either. Or cowardice ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oakpope View Post
    For me, death is the only thing that doesn't change. Trying to continue things is thus only leading to death. To live, we must change.

    Without quoting anyone
    Well, there are people who feel that it's life what never changes, so they commit suicide, for a change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oakpope View Post
    Can't agree with you. JB is human, and human can learn, whatever their intelligent or knowledge, all human can teach and be teached. It's only sloth that can prevent either. Or cowardice ?
    Could, would, should... if he DOES not, all those possibles go to waste.
    A rational being is not one who CAN or COULD reason, but one who DOES so. The ability is nothing if you do not actually exert it.
    You CAN ask himself about what is it that prevents him...

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    Well, there are people who feel that it's life what never changes, so they commit suicide, for a change.
    Maybe it's because they cannot see any more. A look at the sky is enough to behold Change.
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    So there is merit in trying. That's what I was trying to convene. He is not a well frog which it is wasteful to try to teach.
    Also, don't forget that as much as myself you can learn from JB too
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    Quote Originally Posted by oakpope View Post
    So there is merit in trying. That's what I was trying to convene. He is not a well frog which it is wasteful to try to teach.
    Also, don't forget that as much as myself you can learn from JB too
    pope, I am not questioning the "merit in trying" and other abstractions and wouldbes/couldbes, but the fact that they ACTUALLY TRY or not.
    I'd rather say that Bes is one of those THROUGH whom, rather than from whom, you can learn. But that is something that some would say that is what we actually ever or, at least, usually, do... or that it is just a way of the proud to avoid acknowledging that they do have something to learn from someone else: what would Bess' servicing lips say of the possibility of him being able to learn anything from anyone, myself included?

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    pope, I am not questioning the "merit in trying" and other abstractions and wouldbes/couldbes, but the fact that they ACTUALLY TRY or not.
    I'd rather say that Bes is one of those THROUGH whom, rather than from whom, you can learn. But that is something that some would say that is what we actually ever or, at least, usually, do... or that it is just a way of the proud to avoid acknowledging that they do have something to learn from someone else: what would Bess' servicing lips say of the possibility of him being able to learn anything from anyone, myself included?
    I should not speak for him, but I am quite sure he would acknowledge he can learn from you. Perhaps you think he is shying from the content of your posts whereas it is the form that irks him ?

    Does an enlightened one need to address others in terms understandable and receivable by others or should he remain in his ivory tower draped in his wisdom and knowledge that nobody profit upon ?

    Maybe efforts should be made by both party.
    Last edited by oakpope; January 26th, 2013 at 07:58 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohannBessler View Post
    [...]

    But he acts rude, mean, and nasty pretty much all the time. Most of the time, his nastiness really isn't called for. In the previous example, I didn't get so upset by his attack on my character as much as I got upset by his characterization of Americans. That upset me very badly.

    [...]

    You must understand that I do not want to turn this thread from "Belamo's bash Americans" thread to "JohannBessler's bash Europeans" thread. I don't intend that at all.

    I merely strongly contend that a man of Belamo's intelligence should have seen the very real truth that fashion is subjective.
    Monsieur JB,
    I wanted to react to the bolded part especially...
    I am aware USAmericans are very sensitive to what people say of them (or is it another mis-characterization?) and are quick to label it American bashing, but you must recognize that we all do mischaracterize each others, even by proxy as you did yourself on another subject.

    I can absolutely relate to the feeling of injustice you may feel when such characterization aims a group you belong to but I would suggest that when you're annoyed by this to the point that it physically makes your blood boil and lose your temper, why not try to "educate" against such characterization if you feel it's wrong?

    Of course you know Belamo is the type who will react to things, sometimes hastily, in a provocative way , but you will have laid your thoughts for everyone to see where you stand, you do not need to convince those who won't allow it in the first place....

    I don't think Belamo does actually demonstrate American (individuals...ie you as an American) bashing, despite the trolling style wording of most of his posts, when he explicits the fact that it is a Standard he criticizes...
    In all fairness, Belamo has been critical of so many nationalities/ethnicities in the past (including his own people) that I lost count, it would probably be quicker to ask who Belamo doesn't bash (Mozart maybe...)

    And in all fairness to you, despite quoting you and answering your post here, I do not agree with Belamo on his characterization of your supposed pedestal syndrome and manichaeism... I just think both your writing styles, the way you express yourselves, can be misunderstood when they sometimes stretch the seriousness of the context of their posting to unexpected levels...
    Last edited by Nishin; January 26th, 2013 at 08:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oakpope View Post
    I should not speak for him, but I am quite sure he would acknowledge he can learn from you. Perhaps you think he is shying from the content of your posts whereas it is the form that irks him ?

    Does an enlightened one need to address others in terms understandable and receivable by others or should he remain in his ivory tower draped in his wisdom and knowledge that nobody profit upon ?

    Maybe efforts should be made by both party.
    If I pretended to "enlighten", THEn you could call me pompous, pretentious and whatever else you like... but if I simply expose something and some are not willing to deal with it because they expect everything to be peeled, chewed and seasoned for them very nicely..; if they REALLY price and pride their OWN ability and intellect to deal with anything and learn, then is it me or just the habits that have spoiled their ability to react, when at all, that they could rather be deploring and complaining about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nishin View Post
    In all fairness, Belamo has been critical of so many nationalities/ethnicities in the past (including his own people) that I lost count, it would probably be quicker to ask who Belamo doesn't bash (Mozart maybe...)

    And in all fairness to you, despite quoting you and answering your post here, I do not agree with Belamo on his characterization of your supposed pedestal syndrome and manichaeism... I just think both your writing styles, the way you express yourselves, can be misunderstood when they sometimes stretch the seriousness of the context of their posting to unexpected levels...
    As I said above, and as I said right there for the -nth time, what I am critical with is arguments, opinions, attitudes, actions... but even people who want to be reasonable, like you, find it hard, when not impossible, to dissociate all those arguments, opinions, attitudes, actions, etc. from, not just individuals, but from a confuse mass that is comfortably labelled as "nation X", or "the good", "the bad", "the not-actually-good-but-acceptable-anyway"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BENDERBOY View Post
    To appreciate Hard-up1, way more.

    And to agree with johaninsc's comment above.

    now where did i put those paracetamols.
    And they still say I am The Obscure...

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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    As I said above, and as I said right there for the -nth time, what I am critical with is arguments, opinions, attitudes, actions... but even people who want to be reasonable, like you, find it hard, when not impossible, to dissociate all those arguments, opinions, attitudes, actions, etc. from, not just individuals, but from a confuse mass that is comfortably labelled as "nation X", or "the good", "the bad", "the not-actually-good-but-acceptable-anyway"...
    Most, if not all, we know we learned from third parties, thus the difficulty to absorb the learned content without the bias that comes with it from the source...
    We are a social specie and it is vital to us as human beings to belong to a group thus having to accept a variety of things, opinions, attitudes, consciously or not, especially when they do not contradict our very own systems of thoughts and morals...
    Yes it is sometimes difficult for me, as for most people, to dissociate individuals' from groups' opinions since groups' opinions are usually the sum of individuals' opinions or the accepted imposition of a few opinions' unto the group. Broad traits define broad masses... and broad discussions.
    That doesn't mean everyone is free (and welcome) to refine levels of subtleties in appreciation/dissociation to an individual level as they see fit when discussing a particular topic.
    Are we in agreement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nishin View Post
    That doesn't mean everyone is free (and welcome) to refine levels of subtleties in appreciation/dissociation to an individual level as they see fit when discussing a particular topic.
    Didn't you mean the opposite ?

    To have real meaningful conversations would require an understanding and agreement on the meanings of all the words we employ. Practically, it's near impossible, cumbersome and tiresome. Hence we must tacitly agree that we speak at the same level. When evidences point to the fact that we are not, we have to stop the exchange and discuss what is the level and what signification of the words employed we meant.

    But we are not emotionless beings and one must contend with the other's emotions. The same sentence uttered at different times to the same person could lead to two very different reactions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    If I pretended to "enlighten", THEn you could call me pompous, pretentious and whatever else you like...
    I didn't mean to imply that you pretended. It's me who believe you could enlighten us. If I'm wrong, blame me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard-up1 View Post
    Bendy's was a brief comment, to be sure.
    It is not the length what made his post obscure to me, but the obscure relation of that obvious filling, sandwiched between the two equally obvious slices

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohannBessler View Post
    @To all:

    I appreciate your efforts to bring a conciliatory note to the belamo episode, but I really don't hold any interest.

    I see him as a rude, mean, and nasty person, and I don't want to associate with people like that. I flushed him down the toilet for good.

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    Joann, flushing someone 'down the toilet' is hardly ever good.

    You and my other buddy Senor Bellicose butt have much in common.

    It does seemthe two of you can't SHARE points of view w/o the old

    barriers getting locked in place.


    BTW, were you so sartorially Garbed for SHEEP DIP at John's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChickenGuy View Post
    ^ Quite inadvertantly and by chance, that became my coming out song (very common, I know) three or four days after I came out in 2010, I listened to the full uninterrupted song properly for the first time. Starting from then, I now can't listen to it without it making me cry.
    i would have never guessed, man. i would have imagined it to be pink "get this party started" or even diana ross "i'm coming out".

    my coming out song was aaron and the gays "computer sex".
    one thing about the closet/you don't have to hurry/it will be bad tomorrow/so brother, don't you worry

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    I learnt that I can piss off people very easily and I like it.




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    Quote Originally Posted by belamo View Post
    “You can’t discuss the ocean with a well frog; he is confined to the limits of his hole. You can’t discuss ice with a summer insect—he’s bound to a single season. You can’t discuss the Tao with a cramped scholar of limited views—he’s shackled by his doctrines.” Zhuangzi: Qiushui.



    井蛙不可以語於海者,拘於虛也;夏蟲不可以語於冰者,篤於時也;曲士不可以語於道者,束於教也。莊子《秋水 》

    Quote Originally Posted by oakpope View Post
    I should not speak for him, but I am quite sure he would acknowledge he can learn from you. Perhaps you think he is shying from the content of your posts whereas it is the form that irks him ?

    Does an enlightened one need to address others in terms understandable and receivable by others or should he remain in his ivory tower draped in his wisdom and knowledge that nobody profit upon ?

    Maybe efforts should be made by both party.
    Exactly.

    Maybe you, belamo are of the 嚴師出高徒 school of information delivery.


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    I learned today that an afternoon nap does wonders


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