Dynarod sometimes have cute guys working in what is a shitty job.
How would pics taken at an event take a couple weeks to be delivered? Do you mean they still use analog?
The Internet is your friend, it only wants you good
Today I learned that I am indeed all that....
FPNYAnnoying JUBBERS since 2003
I learnt that belamo is ignoring me
I might have to go to spain and spank his ass.
Meaning : folly is so in human nature that it's folly to think we can prevent folly in humans.
Belamo may need a filter to be 'ingested'. There is wealth to gain even if the format can be repulsive for some. Once you have the filter in place, no need to 'ignore' him
Last edited by oakpope; January 25th, 2013 at 10:45 AM.
Despite the curiosity with the alimentary canal, Telstra is one class act in real life.
The only thing that tastes more vile than a 'beer' Bloody Mary is
no Bloody Mary at all...
In any case, remember: one day I may be here, and the next I may be not
I learned that change is life, continuity is death.
Nichts ist dauernd, als der Wechsel; nichts beständig, als der Tod. Jeder Schlag des Herzens schlägt uns eine Wunde, und das Leben wäre ein ewiges Verbluten, wenn nicht die Dichtkunst wäre. Sie gewährt uns, was uns die Natur versagt: eine goldene Zeit, die nicht rostet, einen Frühling, der nicht abblüht, wolkenloses Glück und ewige Jugend.
See, I can quote too
That person should understand what I keep repeating so many times on different tastes on different subjects, like men, etc.: what I attack is never the particular taste, and that is something I am EXPLICIT about with words, like when I say that you can wear whatever you want and it is all the same because, like that person himself allows, "fashion is subjective"...
what prompts my attacks are posts of the sort of Bess', treating people like beggars for, allegedly, not dressing like "royalty", like the royalty he can represent when he attends some Gotha gathering. He works on his conviction concerining certain assumptions which he does not express as being merely "subjective", but as some true standard of superiority.
The problem with people like Bess is that they do not seem have a real sense of anything, in fashion like the rest, but just grab on labels and received opinions and prejudices and stick to them with a sense odf superiority which, being prevalent, not needing to fight its way because, no matter how hurtful, it already has its place even on the mind of people who do not agree with them, gives them a twofold sense of security: first, that they do not need to learn anything, at least not anything they consider important (which is just a milder, sneaky way of actually saying that there is nothing they need to be taught anymore) and, most importantly, that what they hold as an opinion is not just an opinion, but THE truth (no matter how sneaky and falsly humble they pretend to deny it) and, therefore, that they PERSONALLY hold a morally superior stance by virtue of that truth stuck to whatever they have left for brains after all that hardening.
And just like people who get so wrought up that they forget how they started quarreling, people reading me forget how all that alleged gratuituous trashing against the American in general was not such, but was a trashing against the prepotence of certain Americans, whose attitude is rejected even by those who only look at the one attacking an American, and not why is he doing so.
No wonder, then, that it is so easy to dupe people when the subject involves politics and international conflicts, when people get so easily misled under the strain of joining up to sentences discussing FACTS and IDEAS, and not reducing the discussion to a mere useless and disjointed quarrel about the association of the disputants FOR or AGAINST either of two given sides.
In his last posts, Bess is a perfect example to that reduction to a plain good or bad individuals according to two sides: first he quotes a maxim which substance is reduced to "the other people are foolish", and that serves to maintain his peace of mind without going under the strain of what exactly is accounted for under "foolish", which is nothing substantial in itself but a mere feeling of rejection that can be applied to one thing and its opposite without incurring in any contradiction, because they are not dealing with actual thoughts or sense, just mere "spasms" of the mind.
Then, he quotes another post which point is not so much to discuss anything, but express that same rejection that he considers of interest in supporting him, without further mental strain in any discussion about what he is feeling is fair or not: he is only interested in feeling his position to be perfectly justified... but the mere fact that he is STILL caring about this whole discussion, when he is childishly ignoring me directly, is that he is still addressing to me through others but, again, in the most comfortable way of reducing it all to I am bad, not because of what I actually say, but because of how I make some people feel, by misunderstanding or not and, most importantly, how I make HIM feel.
Ok, that post above will be as useless as I commented in the post itself about discussions in general, unless I sum it up as this: what I have been trashing is an American STANDARD of taste, a standard being, for those who can get easily misled, something that is put above and stands the rest no matter what and no matter WHY.
If you can not tell the difference about trashing something which happens, secondarily, being associated with America, and you consider that attacking anything related to America, even John Wayne Gacy, is trashing America herself, I wish you a happy life in Lalaland, and Cod protects the rest of the world round you.
So there is merit in trying. That's what I was trying to convene. He is not a well frog which it is wasteful to try to teach.
Also, don't forget that as much as myself you can learn from JB too
I'd rather say that Bes is one of those THROUGH whom, rather than from whom, you can learn. But that is something that some would say that is what we actually ever or, at least, usually, do... or that it is just a way of the proud to avoid acknowledging that they do have something to learn from someone else: what would Bess' servicing lips say of the possibility of him being able to learn anything from anyone, myself included?
Does an enlightened one need to address others in terms understandable and receivable by others or should he remain in his ivory tower draped in his wisdom and knowledge that nobody profit upon ?
Maybe efforts should be made by both party.
Last edited by oakpope; January 26th, 2013 at 07:58 AM.
I wanted to react to the bolded part especially...
I am aware USAmericans are very sensitive to what people say of them (or is it another mis-characterization?) and are quick to label it American bashing, but you must recognize that we all do mischaracterize each others, even by proxy as you did yourself on another subject.
I can absolutely relate to the feeling of injustice you may feel when such characterization aims a group you belong to but I would suggest that when you're annoyed by this to the point that it physically makes your blood boil and lose your temper, why not try to "educate" against such characterization if you feel it's wrong?
Of course you know Belamo is the type who will react to things, sometimes hastily, in a provocative way , but you will have laid your thoughts for everyone to see where you stand, you do not need to convince those who won't allow it in the first place....
I don't think Belamo does actually demonstrate American (individuals...ie you as an American) bashing, despite the trolling style wording of most of his posts, when he explicits the fact that it is a Standard he criticizes...
In all fairness, Belamo has been critical of so many nationalities/ethnicities in the past (including his own people) that I lost count, it would probably be quicker to ask who Belamo doesn't bash (Mozart maybe...)
And in all fairness to you, despite quoting you and answering your post here, I do not agree with Belamo on his characterization of your supposed pedestal syndrome and manichaeism... I just think both your writing styles, the way you express yourselves, can be misunderstood when they sometimes stretch the seriousness of the context of their posting to unexpected levels...
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We are a social specie and it is vital to us as human beings to belong to a group thus having to accept a variety of things, opinions, attitudes, consciously or not, especially when they do not contradict our very own systems of thoughts and morals...
Yes it is sometimes difficult for me, as for most people, to dissociate individuals' from groups' opinions since groups' opinions are usually the sum of individuals' opinions or the accepted imposition of a few opinions' unto the group. Broad traits define broad masses... and broad discussions.
That doesn't mean everyone is free (and welcome) to refine levels of subtleties in appreciation/dissociation to an individual level as they see fit when discussing a particular topic.
Are we in agreement?
To have real meaningful conversations would require an understanding and agreement on the meanings of all the words we employ. Practically, it's near impossible, cumbersome and tiresome. Hence we must tacitly agree that we speak at the same level. When evidences point to the fact that we are not, we have to stop the exchange and discuss what is the level and what signification of the words employed we meant.
But we are not emotionless beings and one must contend with the other's emotions. The same sentence uttered at different times to the same person could lead to two very different reactions.
Joann, flushing someone 'down the toilet' is hardly ever good.
You and my other buddy Senor Bellicose butt have much in common.
It does seemthe two of you can't SHARE points of view w/o the old
barriers getting locked in place.
BTW, were you so sartorially Garbed for SHEEP DIP at John's?
one thing about the closet/you don't have to hurry/it will be bad tomorrow/so brother, don't you worry
I learnt that I can piss off people very easily and I like it.
I learned today that an afternoon nap does wonders