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    Re: From HIV neg to HIV pos

    Quote Originally Posted by Geiri85 View Post
    I'm sorry but if it was 60% chance then much more guys would be infected than there are today.

    This source claims it's just half a percent when receiving. 0,065% when giving.

    http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwr...402a1.htm#tab1
    Also this study.

    The risk of becoming infected on any single occasion of receptive anal sex with internal ejaculation is 1.43 percent. If the partner withdraws before ejaculating, that risk goes down to 0.65 percent. The infection rate for each occasion of insertive anal sex (topping) is 0.11 percent if a man is circumcised; it goes up to 0.62 percent if a man is uncircumcised. The upshot: receptive anal sex with ejaculation is roughly twice as risky as receptive anal sex with pre-ejaculation withdrawal or topping by an uncircumcised man, and more than 10 times as risky as topping by a circumcised man.
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    The 60% stuff.....just scary.

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    If the HIV rate was even close to 30% there would be a cure because we'd have civilizations being wiped out

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    Quote Originally Posted by BostonPirate View Post
    Lots of Ugly going on in this thread.

    I am a long term HIV survivor. Seventeen years. It's why I got involved in politics. My husband is negative. There is a way to make sure that you are safe if you are safe.

    To anyone else that thinks that it's not a problem to become infected because there are people like me that beat the odds from the beginning, I have two things to say. One... It's extremely expensive to stay alive and HIV positive on a long term basis. It requires extraordinary committment to fighting every step of every way. On good days I get around with two canes or crutches. On an average day I am in a chair, of the wheels variety, and on bad days I am hospitalized and given morphine intravenously, to keep the pain at bay.

    The long term effects of the HIV drugs have devastated my nervous system. I am immobile due to extreme neuropathy.

    It's not cute to get it.

    It's not attractive to see the things written here in an online forum. Two years ago, I found a listing for this place in a log of resources of a support group I belong to. Someone a few of you know, called Andreus, listed this forum there as a support tool. There are others here who have been sent here by his message in that log. There have been for years after his death apparently.

    After reading this thread, I am taking the JUB listing out of the log in next months meeting.

    There are quite a few people who need to reconsider a few things, one most importantly being, do I seem like the kind of person that takes this kind of thing lightly?
    Thanks for this post, very educational.
    This is what people should fear in bold.

    Sounds like a death sentence or being dis-able forever.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Telstra View Post
    Thanks for this post, very educational.
    This is what people should fear in bold.

    Sounds like a death sentence or being dis-able forever.
    Not if people find their status early through testing and get educated.

    Thanks for the thanks,
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    Quote Originally Posted by BostonPirate View Post
    It's not just the medications. Blood tests can cost over a thousand and sometimes they are needed monthly. There are all the side effect medications you take... meds to treat side effects from the damage the old cocktails did... and then there are the meds for the meds.

    The chemicals alone are devastating. I was throwing up blood a year ago, with an ulcerated esophagus, and let me tell you how fond HIV neg people are of being around HIV pos people who are yacking blood.

    It piles on, layer after layer.

    The HIV pos people here by and large will never complain about it though, because they understand the value of life, and the joy of not being treated like a needy freak.

    HIV pos people want respect, but not really attention or pity. We just want to fit in.

    That is the reason why threads like this can spook people... So I outed myself as an AIDS patient.

    BTW... the notes he left gave this site as a resource, it listed a few friendly names only one of which is still here, and the name of a thread here that he wanted to be remembered for within the HIV pos community.

    The thread is still here.
    Some what off topic here but true story.
    A guy i met afew years back was HIV+ and he wanted to eat my poo but i refused. He said he ate poos before He did rim me but only told me after.
    I think he should let people know before doing things. He smell different, smells like over medication.
    I made a thread about him i think. True story sorry.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Telstra View Post
    Some what off topic here but true story.
    A guy i met afew years back was HIV+ and he wanted to eat my poo but i refused. He said he ate poos before He did rim me but only told me after.
    I think he should let people know before doing things. He smell different, smells like over medication.
    I made a thread about him i think. True story sorry.
    I think you're a scary bizarre little troll who needs professional help.

    If that is not clear enough english for you let me know.... I can be more direct on request.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BostonPirate View Post
    Not if people find their status early through testing and get educated.

    Thanks for the thanks,
    But still a life sentence if Positive.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BostonPirate View Post
    I think you're a scary bizarre little troll who needs professional help.

    If that is not clear enough english for you let me know.... I can be more direct on request.
    oh dear, so speaking the truth is a troll ...


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    You have missed the point you silly turnip.

    And don't think you are quite as clever as you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BostonPirate View Post
    You have missed the point you silly turnip.

    And don't think you are quite as clever as you do.
    Ok be more direct LOL.
    I was talking about my experience with that guy and you become some what angry.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Telstra View Post
    Ok be more direct LOL.
    I was talking about my experience with that guy and you become some what angry.

    Oh sweetcheeks, you have no idea what Angry looks like on me if you think this is it.

    What I have for you after reading your posts, is abject contempt for the lack of intelligence you have displayed in your writing. I dare say that there are few here, as bad at playing games as you are.

    When you want to have a grown up conversation, try it.

    If you are going to write bizarre things in a thread that needs more responsible discussion, go find someone that has a brain and ask them what to say.

    Don't troll me, dude. It won't end well for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BostonPirate View Post
    Oh sweetcheeks, you have no idea what Angry looks like on me if you think this is it.

    What I have for you after reading your posts, is abject contempt for the lack of intelligence you have displayed in your writing. I dare say that there are few here, as bad at playing games as you are.

    When you want to have a grown up conversation, try it.

    If you are going to write bizarre things in a thread that needs more responsible discussion, go find someone that has a brain and ask them what to say.

    Don't troll me, dude. It won't end well for you.
    Point taken but it is still a true story.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BostonPirate View Post
    n HIV poz forum here for people. God knows I'd be willing to help put it together with thread posts to get it started.
    No, not at all. Everytime we created a new forum because certain topics have been dominating the discussion and we wanted to create space for the variety of all of them (like splitting entertainment from celebs and ce&p from hot topics), a few people understood this as us "Hiding the topic" or making it "less accessible".
    Now, if a new forum would be for HIV related topics only, I'd actually agree with those voices. This topic should be out there. To be seen and to be seen as an existant and very real problem that everybody should face (be confronted with), not just those who care enough to open the extra forum for it.

    That being said, I am certain that there is more interest in a thread about your experience than you might expect. If you don't seem it suitable for HT, you might use Health & Wellbeing .. or for other aspects even CO&R.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corny View Post
    No, not at all. Everytime we created a new forum because certain topics have been dominating the discussion and we wanted to create space for the variety of all of them (like splitting entertainment from celebs and ce&p from hot topics), a few people understood this as us "Hiding the topic" or making it "less accessible".
    Now, if a new forum would be for HIV related topics only, I'd actually agree with those voices. This topic should be out there. To be seen and to be seen as an existant and very real problem that everybody should face (be confronted with), not just those who care enough to open the extra forum for it.

    That being said, I am certain that there is more interest in a thread about your experience than you might expect. If you don't seem it suitable for HT, you might use Health & Wellbeing .. or for other aspects even CO&R.
    I see your point. Well I am not interested in being the poster child for HIV pos people here, but I can certainly try to post threads on the topic in this forum and in some of the other forums already here.

    HIV pos people don't need to be separated off to talk to each other. People need to be included in the conversation that are NOT positive, so that they stay HIV negative.

    I hadn't considered the concept of segregation by HIV status. That seems like a very BAD idea, I agree.
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